We ant talking about no regular hoe … we talking about Rachael muther fucking Jackson. You don’t talk about Rachael or Abigail Adams … they are above reproach
There was a failed assassination attempt on Jackson in 1835, but the would-be assassin's firearm and backup firearm apparently both misfired. Jackson proceeded to nearly beat the man to death with his cane until he was forcibly stopped from doing so by US Representatives who, along with Jackson, were attending a funeral service for another Rep who had passed away. One of the Reps who was noted to have restrained Jackson and stopped him from killing the assassin was Davy Crockett.
While Jackson was President Sam Houston was an Indian agent. A congress man named Stanbury from Ohio accused him of corruption and Houston beat him with a cane. Houston and Crockett both fought under Jackson before he was President and were extremely loyal to them. Some historians believe Crockett and Houston ended up in Texas to acquire it for the USA at Jackson’s behest. There’s a great movie made by the Texas historical commission on Houston called Gone To Texas with Sam Elliot. It’s from a pulitzer prize winning biography of Houston and shows a lot of interesting information about the Houston Jackson relationship. Those were extremely interesting individuals.
Aaron Burr was Vice-president when he killed Hamilton in a duel. Andrew Jackson did kill a guy in a duel but long before he was president. Jackson was shot in the chest with a ball that remained there the rest of his life, which caused him a lot of pain, during the duel where he killed his opponent. Andrew Jackson was a super tough guy! He was probably the toughest individual ever to be president of the United States. He also held grudges and he was not a guy you wanted to cross.
"If people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution by morning." - President Andrew Jackson, 1834
Vetoing the charter for the second bank of the United States, was probably his greatest action as president in my mind. I love to think from time to time how badly he stuck it to the banking cartel of the time with this action
Not sure about the quote, but the intent is sound. Jackson was famously (infamously?) anti-central bank and he considered it his primary mission as president and openly stated the only reason he ran for a second term was to squash the chances of a central bank being established.
@@therecalcitrantseditionist3613 Nah white suffrage, allowed non land owing white males the right to vote. Laid the foundation for Jacksonian Democrats, which kept the south Democratic for over 100years.
Here's an urban legend involving Jackson: Someone challenged him to a duel but Jackson didn't feel like it that day. So when it comes to duels, the person who is challenged makes the rules for the duel. Jackson made the rules absolutely insane so the other guy would withdraw. He wanted to fight in a pitch black basement with axes. Jackson showed up, his second, the other guys second, but not the opponent
I'm pretty sure that number is WAY off. From what I remember reading in Encyclopedia Britannica for a paper I wrote when I was younger he had at most 10. And a majority of them came to the gentlemen's agreement to miss and did. And iirc only like 4 duels can be proven or know his opponent 's name out of the 10 or so rumored.
I live for the moments when interesting Historical topics come up on the JRE Podcast. They get into it with such detail and depth no matter the topic. Love it.
Getting shot back then was arguably more dangerous than today, medicine was in its infancy and most gun shot wounds resulted in disease (gangrene, pneumonia, etc.) which would kill the individual in the long run
Imagine trying to abolish the 2nd Amendment when Jackson was President. "I not only VETO this damned abomination, I challenge all who signed it to duels in the morn."
@@DarthBane-zf8wv yes I know, I accounted for that and that is why I said COMBAT deaths . 620K were actually killed but most due to sickness. Thanks for bein “that guy”
The person who was the challenger in the duel would usually fire second, so if the first person fired in the air it was akin to an apology that also saved honor. If the second person shot in the air it was like accepting the apology and the score was settled.
@@multipackcan80p You guys are both essentially saying the same thing. Legal duals were sanctioned by gov't, so there were rules in place. Life was much cheaper back then but still people did not throw away their lives like you may see in Hollywood duals or even skirmishes. When duals were fought with sword it was common for each party to walk away with minor cuts.
@@RedMojaveBraveUSMC Duels being legally sanctioned was entirely dependent on local legislation and local practice, plenty of duels occurred before constabulary knew and were unprosecuted by (then very frequent) prosecutorial discretion or because no relevant legislation existed.
My great uncle was in the last legal pistol duel in Toronto! His opponent drew early and my uncle was granted a free shot and killed the guy! Jarvis street in Toronto is named after him
I forget, who has to chain? I can't see how Biden fought off the cornpop gang with all those kids stroking his leg hair, sounds like bullshit..bet cornpop whooped his ass..
4:06 Joe says you could probably catch those bullets he thinks are slow, but the slowest ones were still about double the speed of an arrow from most high-end modern-day crossbows (crossbows being 300-470 feet per second with lightweight arrows and less with heavy arrows) those pistol bullets were still 800-1,300 feet per second and less than 700 feet per second is unheard of even for pocket pistols with little space for gunpowder and launching 0.32 inch bullets (.32 cal/.320 caliber).
I read a book on Andrew Jackson when I was 10. It mentions the gun duel in the book. It always left a distinct impact on me knowing he could still become president. When one man falls another man rises.
My 4th great grandmother's brother was Judge John Overton. He was Jackson's "Second" and would arrange Jackson's duels, make sure his guns were working and so on...sort of like a manager. He also founded Memphis, TN with Jackson and was his friend and secretary.
My 6th great grandfather is John Sevier who was supposed to duel Jackson but it didn’t happen because of some technicality involving the seconds, if I remember right. There’s a few different stories of what happened I think. Edit: Apparently they had an altercation as they were arriving at the duel and it was called off
Jackson also fought off the central banks because he knew if they took our currency we were finished. Sadly the federal reserve was born in 1913. Andrew Jackson...a true patriot
This was a time in history when people respected the person they lost to. I experienced a smidge of that in the 80s when two people shook hands after pounding on each other regardless of who won
What I've noticed is the attitude and relative calmness in such situation makes it respectable. Their higher testosterone levels, due to lack of endocrine disrupting chemicals, 'EMFs', higher nutrient dense diet, active lifestyle, constant conflict may have had an impact on them to such an extent that under such danger, they would remain somewhat 'zen'. Many such stories have emerged, of our ancestors and their stoicism.
@@wolfwoof1870 exactly! No problems will ever be solved if one person is the winner and the other is a victim. It's about reestablishing the middle ground and then talking about it afterwards
@Andrew Ryan not good to vote for someone who is a blatant racist and wants to void all votes after getting in office and tries to be king. Dude was a bigger racist than the KKK
This is so insightful. People trying to have a conversation about something they know nothing about, but they've heard something about something related to this topic before.
Abe Lincoln also was once in a duel. Nothing came of it and James Shields, the man he was going to duel, had eventually been nominated for Major General by Lincoln himself.
Does anyone else find it frustrating a man can have two conversations about how a founding father was killed in a duel and not bother to even look it up? Hamilton was killed by Aaron Burr (who was vice president at the time) in a duel in the exact same dueling spot his son was killed some years before.
Andrew Jackson also hated the bankers and regularly lit them up too 😂 which is why Andrew Jackson has all this crazy / negative connotations associated with him.
He has all the negativity about him because he was power hungry racist who was a complete genocidal maniac. The Loon tried to abolish the Electoral college so he could be the 1St King of the United States of America. He pushed expansion, which was brought to fruition by a Jacksonian democrat, President James Polk, who was just as racist and power hungry. Andrew Jackson is responsible for the Slaughter of a plethora of blacks and natives. He is responsible for the policies and strategies used for expansion, enslavement, and forced labor of natives and their land as well as the forced assimilation to European and American society. Himself and his party are the epitome of corruption. I mean Hitler himself stated he got the strategies for expansion, enslavement and forced labor from Andrew Jackson and the Jacksonian Democrats.
There was also a lynching in angleton too in the early 1900s lol. Now all the houston bugmen are fruiting up brazoria county. Especially all the Houston mexicans moving down here to build scaffolds and drink behind the wheel
I vaguely remember hearing old reports of visiting leaders from other countries allegedly hearing the ghost of Andrew Jackson cussing in the White House. What's also interesting? While searching online for that story as I was writing this, I found another story about Andrew Jackson having a parrot that cussed. Here's the story: _Andrew Jackson once bought an African gray parrot named Poll for his wife. But when the first lady died, the parrot spent a lot of time with Old Hickory (Andrew Jackson), and apparently soaked up some of the president's choice phrases._ _When Jackson died in 1845, thousands of people gathered to pay a final tribute_ - _along with one talking parrot that was apparently riled up by the crowds._ _The Reverend William Menefee Norment, who presided over the funeral, described the scene. "Before the sermon and while the crowd was gathering, a wicked parrot that was a household pet got excited and commenced swearing so loud and long as to disturb the people," he said._ _The bird "let loose perfect gusts of 'cuss words," so many that people were "horrified and awed at the bird's lack of reverence."_ In the end, the bird refused to shut up and "had to be carried from the house."_ Here's another president cussing story from the same article: _On several occasions, Lincoln told a story about a Revolutionary War patriot Ethan Allen's first trip to England after the war:_ _The British, trying to poke fun at the American, had put a picture of George Washington in the outhouse of the home where Allen was staying._ _One day, Allen's hosts asked whether he had seen the portrait of the first president._ _According to Lincoln, Allen replied:_ _"There is nothing to make an Englishman shit quicker than the sight of General George Washington."_
He’s claimed to be in over a hundred duels in his life. He was shot in the gut during a duel that collapsed his lung and broke some ribs but still won the duel with a kill shot.
Dickenson was a professional duelist and was hired to get Jackson to duel him. He resorted to insulting his wife as a last ditch effort to get Jackson to engage in the duel. It worked. This was an attempt from his enemies to end him. Jackson is one of a few presidents who ended the central bank.
He ended the central bank and when the replacement institutions rose up, he gave all the controlling positions to his friends, ushering in cronyism. The idea and institution of a central bank isn't what the problem is, it's how it's run and Jackson opened the floodgates for how it's run today with zero to feigned government oversight. I mean what if we thought about cops and other institutions like the central bank, we would be "protected" by some weird privately run institution, just because a centralized institution has issues doesn't mean laissez faire capitalism works, that's what puts 8 year old's in coal mines, we already tried that it's as dumb as communism, or at least always leads workers to constantly ask for communism. We need a nuanced system to try and balance the collective and the individual.
some historians explain Hamilton's strange behavior (like wearing his glasses and repeatedly stopping to inspect the pistol and shooting in a manner that was not how "throwing away your shot" was customarily done, i.e. the ground, etc.) that Hamilton may have been suicidal hoping to die in the duel, partly due to depression about his son's death and failed marriage.
There's a popular theory that Hamilton screwed around with the trigger on his pistol in an effort to gain an advantage, but it ended up so light that he ended up firing in the air by mistake.
Days after this dual, Jackson was called upon as a General to lead in battle. The men of Tennessee hearing the story of Jackson’s bravery, made every man desire to fight under Jackson’s command. These men went to war for free which gave Tennessee the name volunteer state. Jackson was in pain from the shot, it hurt to ride horseback so he walked 100’s of miles. Years later, there would be no New Orleans as a part of America thanks to Jackson and volunteer army. There are many Karen’s that do not know history that want every statue of him removed. His history with Indians made many lose any respect for him.
Behavior and attitudes like that towards the natives are perfectly good reasons for a person to have lower opinions of the man. Americans don’t realize this but it’s entirely possible to fairly criticize one part of a person’s life even while recognizing success in another.
@@thestarseeker8196 100% agreed but often times people completely disregard the positives and only account for the negatives. Sure he was a racist and owned slaves, sure he killed Native Americans, but so did George Washington and almost every other prominent White man at the time. It's just the eeb and flow of time and socially acceptable actions. Of course that doesnt remove them from all blame, but literally everyone has done bad shit in their lifes, some are just worst than others. In 100 years who knows alll the shit that our future generations will look down upon us for, because there's alot there.
Why do so many clowns try seeing through Jacksons eye in a 2022 mentality lol. The dude lived in a different generation the way of thinking an the state of the world was completely different then now, people seriously need to get some commons sense.
I would love to see politicians have duels today. If someone gets personal and goes away from the issues you can challenge them. Especially when the media lies about you. I am all in on that!
@@acidz0043 something a lot of people are lacking these days. I would just like to see our society have a code of ethics to go by. In the constitution it says we are all created equal, it took so time for us to get to that point and I still think we have a way to go but we can treat each other with respect even if we might not like the other person or what they have to say. We can still have a basic polite way to treat each other. The Japanese had a code of common curtsey. They treated their enemies with curtsey. If you didn't you got your fucking head looped off. We should be walking around and treating people with respect like if we don't our head is coming off. That's kinda what dueling was about. If you insulted a person they could call your shit out and you would have to defend yourself. The problem with today's society is there are no consequences for someone being a dick! If you defend your honor you are the one who goes to jail and Thai fucked up.
Watching this has made me realize just how much man has become domesticated and lost its will to truly live a fulfilling life. Fulfillment isn't through the internet. It comes through the things that challenge our existence.
I love how these two impose 2022 standards of toughness on how they imagine the people back then judged Jackson. They probably absolutely loved his ferocity. Probably also that he was the only one with the balls to take on the bankers
@@homecomp6850 it wasn't fiat currency he had a problem with,it was the fractional reserve system. The US dollar (introduced by the Lincoln administration) wasn't a totally corrupted and inflationary until the Federal Reserve Bank was established. The process started in the 1880's and less than a century later we were off the gold standard.
Not everyone did. Jefferson felt that Jackson was not fit to be president. And John Quincy Adams portrayed Jackson as a brute. Jackson was a brute even by the standards of the time.
Some dude tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson and one pistol jammed so he pulled his second pistol, jammed…Andrew Jackson proceeded to beat this man within inches of death with his bare hands 😂 dude was a savage fr
The Dude was a racist, psychotic, genocidal maniac who was intimidated his way to power and is responsible for the a lot of mass slaughters of natives, as well as the reason why it took until Abraham Lincoln to abolish slavery. The Dude was the Worst President to ever be in office. He is up there right along with Nixon, Carter, Biden, and Obama.
Jake’s dad Jack was my next door neighbor when I was a kid. I used to walk to the school bus and run into him and his wife once in a while and I remember he told me his son was a fighter in Japan. This was probably ‘99 or 2000, and I thought I was being told a tall tale. Then when Jake was in Strikeforce, I watched my old neighbor, through my computer screen walk up and hug his son in the cage. Jack was a hippie and he was the ONE neighbor who wasn’t pissed about my electric guitar jam sessions 😆. RIP, Jack!!
yea i would say that you got to be living an interesting life if you are going to single handedly shut down the country's largest central bank as well as try to abolish the electoral college and try to be the 1st King of The United States of America. Dont forget creating the worst and most corrupt politcal party with the soul purpose of defying and dismantling the United States Constitution.
@Cynical Frenchface And if he hadn't done that, the state militias of Georgia, etc, were actively plotting to make war against the Cherokee and exterminate them. Jackson acted at least in part to prevent that awful fate. Moreover, a strong portion of the Cherokee nation preferred going to Oklahoma. There were pro and anti-"removal" factions within the nation so that part wasn't cut and dry. And finally, the awful manner in which the removal ultimately happened - the "Trail of Tears" - transpired after Jackson left the White House and was the fault of inept men succeeding him.
Jackson fought both the British and the Native American Indian tribes for decades, long before it was a given that we'd win either fight. Latter day detractors love to offer him up as representing the worst in America. I think he did more, with less, and more often than any in our time. He also singlehandedly postponed the civil war by nearly three decades by facing down South Carolina's politicians who were threatening succession in 1832, promising to raise and army, go there, defeat them, and hang the leaders if they did. As a badass, respected southerner, he could do that and make it stick. Lincoln could not in 1861, being viewed as a regional northerner in comparison.
reading though these comments and all of the Jackson lore i find it kind of amazing there hasn't been a major blockbuster movie about Jackson's life! The dude is the stuff of legends!!
Jackson wore a jacket larger than he was .. this made his opponents aim off .. his aim was true but Jackson’s heart was not where the overcoat made it look
@@otroflores91 ima play devils advocate by saying that only people of that time would really have the say if it was cheating. They lived their lives and fucked around knowing another man can say fuck you I put my life on it now put yours
@@dingus6317 Yep..read the writings of Theodore Kaufman in Ger many and Louis Nizer in America in the 30s, talking about ways to st er ilize the Ger mans, or to breed them out by bringing in mig rants.
Jackson stopped a second British invasion, he even recruited pirates to fight with him and the British walked into a slaughter. Look up the Battle of New Orleans
You’re right that Jackson beat the British at New Orleans, but what does a “second British Invasion” mean? Each war between the US and Britain was not just one invasion.
"Whoever appeals to the law against his Fellow man is either a fool or a coward Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both For a wounded man shall say to his assailant If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven Such is the rule of honor" - The Emperor of Mankind
Joe is too young to have learned about this is school. I learned this back when I was a kid when public schools actually taught history and did not do indoctrinations about race and gender.
@@retardedsandwich101 Mm, I'm 29 and I heard about this in middle school. What you learn depends more on the quality of the teacher than on the curriculum.
@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS gee buddy a bit defensive dont you think? Get a fuckin life lol talkin bout that YoUr SiDE shit. Learning real historical facts isnt indoctrination, its academics. Removing historical facts to fit a narrative is indoctrination.
Joe, a lot of your guests have breathing problems. Either you can help them with better air quality or it is self-induced and they need a filter on their mic.
The 'Tik-Tok' generation is largely too effeminate to engage in duels. The endocrine disrupting chemicals and other chemical and societal factors have affected them, look at a twenty year old from a century ago and compare it to the average Western twenty year old of today.
That article they were reading was really biased and weird, of course he wasn’t charged for murder, it was a duel. They write as if it occurred in todays time, and not more than 100 years ago.
I’m ready for something like this almost every day of my life. It’s just the other people don’t have guns. This is why there’s too many rude people walking around, not enough duels.
@@vich3359 yeah so, I don’t know if you’re mocking me or not (makes no difference to me) it’s all just rooted in frustration rather than toughness (whatever the definition of that is). I would rather die in a fckn duel than to live in this world that we’ve ultimately created here. Too many people are far too annoying due to the absence of danger. Violence may be old-school and often overkill , nevertheless,does have practical application. If there was no use for it , then you wouldn’t be capable of doing it. The universe does not allow you to travel faster than the speed of light probably because no good could come of it. But it does allow you to shape and mold the world around you. Strong hands are best for molding clay,strong hands of course lend themselves to violence as well… But if you find yourself with hands on you , perhaps it’s because you were just a piece of clay in need of some character. What is clay without shape or form ?
100 duels, he certainly was an asshole lol It reminds me of all the guys who talk about being in over 100 street fights, talking about how they always "mind their businesses" and get provoked....yeah right...
Ill take an asshole over a coward anyday least they'll stand up for what they believe in.Reminds me of all the girls who say there a "strong independent women" yet love to be dominated in the bedroom by a man
I don't think Duels were right per say. But there was something to it. It definitely had a benifit of stopping slander and nonsense talk. Imagine if reporters and politicians had to back their shit up. Same with Tar and feathering. In a perfect world it wpuld be wrong, in our current world, it is beneficial
Today is what you get when there’s no punishment for lying and talking shit. Our ancestors knew what damage a lie could do. That’s why the punishment was severe. We should bring it back.
