“The Mandalorian is a wonderful homage to the Lone Wolf and Cub series, and baby Grogu’s choice in that random Book of Boba Fett episode is a direct reference to the choice presented to Daigoro in the first film: Sword of Vengeance.”
As the top-voted comment on this video, I feel am entitled to making a movie recommendation: Six-String Samurai From the opening scroll: "In 1957, the bomb dropped, and the Russians took over what was America. "The last bastion of freedom became a place called Lost Vegas and Elvis was crowned King. "After for rockin' years, the King is dead. "Every guitar picking, sword swinging opportunist, including Death himself, hears the call echoing across the wastelands. "Vegas needs a new King." It's about Buddy Holly traveling across a post-apocalyptic wasteland with a katana duct taped to the back of his hollow-body electric guitar, on his way to Lost Vegas to become King. It is exactly as I am billing it. If you think this sounds awesome, it is. If it doesn't sound like your kind of thing, it's probably not. Six-String Samurai. Free to watch on YT EDIT: And the soundtrack is fire
What's most insufferable is someone who only watches Disney franchises and thinks anyone who likes other cinema is pretentious. Bergman films are not inaccessible and everyone should enjoy them.
@@lilaclunablossomI don't think sociability comes into it these people will ramble about films to strangers or even them self in private, it's just their obnoxious nature 😅
"Michael Bay is actually one of the top industry auteurs and his kinetic action and commercial instincts against the dull and overplayed aspects of the Marvel Cinematic Universe make him deeply wanted in the realm of cinema"
It's really accurate when you can't be more elite, you're going back to enjoying popular movies but at the same time you also have good taste for other movies
Nah, it's because as insufferable as these people are, they are already at a point where they don't have just one or two favourite movies or directors. Phase 5 is the same except you stop being snobbish about films and can appreciate movies that simply make you feel good even if they don't have great artistic value.
Phase 1: pop culture blockbusters Phase 2: pop culture indies Phase 3: classic cinema Phase 4: artsy european cinema Phase 5: I don't have time for this sh!t Also, it's amazing that you figured out the full circle while still being so young. It took me 40 years.
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 Akira Kurosawa? That's for tourists. You should check Yasujiro Ozu and Masaki Kobayashi if you really want to know japanese cinema.
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 I feel like it's another branch. One snob group gets obsessed with European filmmaking and the other with South East/East Asian cinema. I went that route and now I'm all about dramatic and even stupid samurai and wuxia films so I'm not mad
Ah yes, there's a Bonus Stage before the completion of the circle, that not many cinephiles get to discover: total cynicism and looking down upon movies (and movie fans) that take themselves seriously - Grindhouse, Exploitation, 70s/80s Hong Kong (kung fu), Cult B movies, etc.
Home theater needs to have an actual film projector, and the only films made since the 40s that they like are all b/w macro lens shots of the most asinine things, like eye buggers in the morning and toe nail fungus.
Yeah I went through all thjs 😂 truth is, once you start working you dont really want to watch some slow subtitled movie in the evening, would rather put on some trashy action movie
A great film no doubt no... art itself portrayed on earth, a marvel never seen before in the whole history of mankind, a bet of a place abandoned by humankind's memory, Uganda has shown that it is capable of making, a beauté impossible to describe, the CINEMA in its maximum magnificence.
@@BlueTyphoon2017It's broke Ugandans making a nonsensical action movie having the time of their lives. An absolute 10/10 movie with pure, undistilled joy. It's on RU-vid and is barely over an hour long.
Kung Fu Panda, while a cinematic masterpiece in its own right, must bow down to Shrek as the most important 3D animated film of all time. Toy Story was the first of great significance but Shrek was the real sea change.
Peter Weller (Robocop) did an interview where he talked about finishing a doctoral dissertation on Venetian Renaissance architecture and how he now hates everything about Venetian Renaissance architecture.
He got the doctorate maybe 15 years ago, long after his 80s movie career. He absolutely loved it at first but hated it by the end because all the joy was stripped out of it.
To be quite honest my experience of truly annoying "cinephiles" has been people who are in phase 2 or 3 but think they're in phase 4. Meeting an insufferable film bro who has seen more than just tarantino and nolan is a rare treat. Still an awful treat, but a rare one.
Actually it goes Tarantino, Nolan, Fincher Kubrick. And they all seem like 4chan Libertarians who believe in the bell curve for some reason, at least that was my (very brief) film school experience.
True. Film snobs like those in Phase 4 can be really insufferable, but at least they by that point have some knowledge on the subject of film. Filmbros however will act like they are the most knowledgeable people because they've seen nearly every Nolan, Tarantino, and Scorsese film.
I’m currently in phase 5. So glad I’m not as pretentious about movies as I used to be. A true cinema lover doesn’t limit oneself to either art house movies, blockbusters or etc. but embraces and appreciates all types of movies.
Honestly I think that’s the right way to go about it. I think my top 10 has all kinds of movies. And honestly if I saw someone else’s lists of favorite movies were all blockbusters I’d still have respect for it. If you like cinema as an art form, watch what you’re interested in, take your time, and judge things by your personal feelings towards them (not anyone else’s)
The problem is that you have a lot of people who consider themselves film buffs, yet have a "so what?" reaction when you mention a film that is generally regarded as a classic. If you speak to someone with a wide interest in films, you might hear this: Film Buff: "Oh, I've heard of that film, haven't seen it yet. Is it as good as people say?" Then you may receive this response: So-Called Film Buff With A Narrow Scope: "Yeah...okay." You'll find that the second type is usually the one who immerses him or herself in Marvel, DC, and a certain bunch of movies about a galaxy far, far away. It's an odd form of snobbery where they regard arthouse films and particular genres as being beneath them, yet consider comic book flicks to be the pinnacle of cinematic achievement.
@@nicholasleavitt5326 Depends on the blockbuster. Blockbusters are just big budget, high concept movies. A number of the consensus greatest of all time are blockbusters, mostly because those budgets allow for a full realization of an idea. But most aren’t like that, they often lack personality, and have no vision, by the numbers and predictable which is just lame. If the media isn’t challenging you or pushing in some way then you are just filling gaps of the fleeting moments of your life with nothingness that you aren’t even actually invested in.
Anyone that tells you that blockbusters have no inherent artistic value is full of it. Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the best movies ever made about found family. Though Birdman was my favorite film that year. 😅
The best definition of Stage 6 is this quote by Roger Ebert from his review of Gamera: Guardian Of The Universe : There's a learning process that moviegoers go through. They begin in childhood without sophistication or much taste, and for example, like "Gamera'' more than "Air Force One" because flying turtles are obviously more entertaining than United States presidents. Then they grow older and develop "taste,'' and prefer "Air Force One," which is better made and has big stars and a more plausible plot. (Isn't it more believable, after all, that a president could single-handedly wipe out a planeload of terrorists than that a giant turtle could spit gobs of flame?) Then, if they continue to grow older and wiser, they complete the circle and return to "Gamera'' again, realizing that while both movies are preposterous, the turtle movie has the charm of utter goofiness--and, in an age of flawless special effects, it is somehow more fun to watch flawed ones.
Honestly, one of the coolest things about watching a lot of movies as an adult is coming back to the movies I loved as a kid, like Star Wars, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park or Indiana Jones and realising they all still rock
Hell yeah! Coming back to them and understanding the writing better as an adult is a treat, you catch stuff that went over your head as a kid. Plus, going back to them with a greater understanding of movies in general has you appreciate them more on a technical level too. Honestly? It's just about having a passion for the medium of cinema while not letting cynicism cloud your judgment of the actual movies themselves. They're there to enjoy!
This his been pretty much, every year I revisit Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Back to the Future just to realize they're still great, and is not just a matter of nostalgia, you start to realize about details you didn't before, I also earned more appreciation for George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis. I found myself revisiting Pixar, those films grew up with me.
As a kid, I feel like I didn't have the critical thinking or experience to understand movies so I just thought "my dad said this movie is good, so it's good." And rewatching those movies as an adult is like "this is *why* my dad said this is a good movie"
The true peak of being a cinefile is when you start appreciating every little effort and filmmaking technique that goes into ALL movies big and small, not just the ones that are popular on rotten tomatoes or letterboxd
Phase 5 Is when you go back to your favorite movies and appreciate their craft, in terms of camera work (lenses and aspect ratio use) and everything else, blocking, effective production design, actor's directing and stuff.
Exactly. I didn't even realize what production design was until 2022, but it was a huge part of why I love Star Wars and Jurassic Park. And honestly, a movie that manages to use these elements of filmmaking to connect with both cinephiles and casual viewers is much more of an achievement than a movie that uses these aspects in a really niche artsy way.
This is still pretentious (and stage 4 from the video). And that’s fine, who cares. You spent a lot of time watching movies - you get to be pretentious asshole about them, you earned it.
This is especially true, I'm going back for Pixar films, I have to say that I didn't only grew up with these films, they grew with me, I also went to some Star Wars film cycle and the pannelist said the same. My most watched movie of all time is Cars and I'll defend it til the day I die.
@@Accountnamehere1968There are lot of things I appreciate now from George Lucas and Steven Spielberg even more that when I was a kid. We have an excellent taste buddy👍
Growing up is realizing that not everyone has the free time to deep dive into French New Wave cinema, and if an adult is really excited about the new Fast and Furious, it's because they got responsibilities and they just want to watch something that can take their mind off those things.
Oh, please. If you have time to watch the seemingly interminable FAST AND FURIOUS series, you have time for other things. What, you can't enjoy a French New Wave movie? Did you ever stop to think that a lot of people are extremely narrow in their view of movies, and only consume whatever is produced in Hollywood? It's one thing to like a Hollywood movie. It's another to turn one's nose up at anything that has subtitles for Anglophonic audiences. Yours is one of the worst takes that I've ever read.
@@markv1274 man, you should be the one promoting art house cinema! Because if there’s one thing audiences love, it’s being lectured by film snobs about why they must support the fine arts 🎭
I don't care if people have preferences for populist art after they've seen other things, but if you refuse to ever branch out, you're just kind of robbing yourself of great stuff.
That feels a bit condescending but certainly is a bit shallow. You don't need much time to enjoy arthouse, not more or less than with Hollywood blockbusters. It's just a question of what you're passionate about and what you want out of films. And you don't have to deep dive to get into arthouse either. markv isn't entirely wrong especially in the sense that consumerism is fuxking big and oftentimes pretty ugly and many people just use film and TV as another form of fast food consumption. That in and of itself isn't bad because films can be absolute awesome escapism and, well, fast food. Ain't nothing wrong with that. It's just the excess of our society that makes it, looking at it as a whole, unfortunate. Just like how this bingewatch culture is kinda horrible if you think about it. But film and cinema has always ALSO been an entertainment industry and that's just two different worlds that overlap occasionally. Some people get into it and dive more into classics and whatnot, others get into culture and get obsessed with film festivals of low budget films of wherever, others are just in for the action and will ride or die with every Fast and the Furious. And all of these things are awesome. It's true that many people just stick to what they know but that's true with music, film, food, places, anything really. It's definitely wise to at least give new things a chance but as I said there's nothing wrong with just not really wanting to.
2001 is unironically one of my favorite movies not for any pretentious reasons, it's like so calm and interesting I just love looking at it, like it's a moving painting. I love all the music too
Phase 1: "What's the most popular movie?" Phase 2: "Liking the most popular movies says nothing about me. What's something with flavor?" Phase 3: "Liking stylistic movies has nothing of substance. What's something that's smart?" Phase 4: "Movies that are smart are too hard. What's something that's pretentious?" Phase 5: "Pretentious movies give me no joy. What's a movie I actually like?"
"I know, the popular thing!" Not where I thought this was going. I fell asleep during A New Hope when I was a child, woke up during Return of the Jedi. I was like six or seven. Laser swords are cool and everything, but my step dad said it would be a fun adventure, and I fell asleep...
@@DannoHungWhen a director’s avant-garde vision is treated as if it was something profound and meaningful when it’s really making a mountain out of a molehill, dismissing all those who don’t see the vision as ignorant or stupid without considering their own shortcomings.
It’s funny, this kind of happened to me with the Indiana Jones movies. They were my absolute favorites growing up. Then I started getting into other 20th century classics, in addition to war movies and crime thrillers, kind of leaving my childhood films behind. In college I took several international film electives and got exposed to all that and can now appreciate all the aspects of filmmaking. Then last summer I rewatched the IJ movies for the first time in many years and had an absolute blast with them. I experienced not only nostalgia, but a new appreciation for how great especially Raiders is, as a film of its time. After you’ve watched a ton and gotten exposed to a lot of different things, it just comes down to what you love personally. I’ve also learned it’s certainly possible and a great thing to enjoy both artistic cinema and movies that offer just simple entertainment.
One great thing about exploring a wider cinema is going back to movies one loves and discovering a whole new appreciation for them. I’m a big fan of Tarantino’s movies for instance, but you do get a much larger understanding of something like Reservoir Dogs after you’ve seen Django. The Indiana Jones movies are actually great examples of that, now that I think about it. I don’t appreciated how hilarious some of The Last Crusade until I came back to it with an understanding of film editing.
I once dated a girl who was none of these. She literally didn't watch movies. She said they were over too fast and she liked to make things last, so she preferred TV series. That's if she was looking for passive entertainment. She was usually out in the world dancing or being a competitive gymnast or finishing her computer science/programming degree or acting in musicals, etc. I let her slip through my fingers like an idiot and now she's dead so i can never apologize. But anyway I'm grateful to have met her. Thanks for coming to my TED talk 😅
Idk what it is but I've met so many women who are just "idk I don't watch movies or shows" And they usually have no other interests either like what the hell do you do in your free time girl
the real phase 5 is just liking anything you actually like and exploring every possible corner of cinema with no bias towards whether its "objectively good/bad" or "true art" or w/e, and not trying to impress people you will probably never actually meet. anything from Bergman to B-movies, from the French New Wave to 1980s action/horror anime, from 4-hour documentaries about German tourism in China during the 80s to Japanese V-Cinema from the early 2000s, from K-dramas to Bollywood...
The ultimate stage is understanding that every movie has the same potential of being artistic valuable. You don't like something "despite it's trash." If you like it there may be reasons why it may not be trash, stand for it. Stalker and Star Wars should be equal, as well as a Bergman film and Barbie.
Meanwhile I can enjoy both. Hot take: Legally Blonde is the real Barbie movie before Greta Gerwig's Barbie and Reese Witherspoon was the right casting choice.
In all seriousness, I’d consider myself a movie buff…but at the same time, I like what I like and don’t let others opinions of movies justify mine. I have a ton of hot takes in other words. Form your own opinions people.
They think they're doing that when they settle on Star Wars. As if the fact that so many of them settle on the most comfortable answer, what was popular, from when they were children tells you nothing about how well the majority of them formulate their own opinions.
Poptimism was great and well intentioned but has honestly killed off a necessary part of the art ecosystem. We need to bring back the endangered snob to hold people to a higher standard
I'm at the phase I find the weirdest ass movies from before the 90s and force my friends to watch them. "You guys see Pink Flamingos? No? Alright sit down and buckle up."
I first watched that movie with a new roommate and we didnt' know each other very well, yet. 20ish minutes in, one of us worked up the courage to say, "I'm really not enjoying this. You wanna do something else?" And the other one said, "Absolutely. This is awful." It was a bonding moment.
Pink Flamingos is a pretty popular film in ghe circles I've run into- not to shoot it down, its fantastic- but it is a common like amongst cinephiles and film students.
That’s what I like about the movie culture. Your perception and liking changes with time and what part of life you are in. I got into the game fairly early for my environment and by the time everyone else figured stuff out I had already reached the final phase. Now I just yearn to feel something at all.
@@deshrektiveshow is him retarding himself good? You know you can watch "pretentious" things without yourself becoming pretentious, right? (In case that's what you're afraid of).
@@deshrektives how is him dumbing himself down good? You know you can watch "pretentious" things without becoming pretentious yourself, right? (In case that's what you're afraid of).
There’s an elegance to Star Wars that a lot of people miss. It’s a simple film, but it’s made so earnestly and so well that it transcends the cliches. It tapped into what George Lucas loved about adventure serials and the Hero’s Journey and reminded people why they loved them too.
I think that a true cinephile is someone who has an open mind about watching every kind of movie without prejudices, wether it's Aguirre The Wrath of God, Solaris, Paris Texas or Despeciable me 2.
My dad was a major cinephile in college and now when you ask him his favorite movie he usually either names a wes anderson movie or into the spider-verse
Call me in phase 7 when you watch Marketa Lazarová and you question yourself if it was worth it being a cinephile all along. Then you watch bee movie and the circle starts again.
Really thankful I’m at phase 5. Sure, my top 3 movies consist of Night of the Hunter and One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest, however now I have no shame in saying Spiderman 2 is my #1
@@grumweld ? My favorite I’m totally serious being pretentious about Terrence Malick. The Thin Red Line is my favorite movie ever absolutely made me enjoy life more.
I'm convinced that Phase 4s are like one in a million maybe, they barely exist. Most people just skip that phase and realize that its more important to just have fun. Also learning to appreciate cool, beautiful or impressive shit on screen or the sometimes crazy and ingenious processes that went into making a movie.
Genuinely one of the funniest happenings. Watching movies as a kid, avoiding them for 20 years, returning and realizing how incredibly structured they are with amazing story and undertones. Being a cinephile means finding joy in it all.
Phase 5: I cannot watch mainstream movies anymore because they all seem the same, so I can only watch things like Society and The Holy Mountain. Phase 6: I'll give anything a shot, honestly, you got a VHS of some student film from 1996? Pop it in. I'm on Phase 6 and film continues to surprise me. I feel like I don't have a favorite movie, but a list of movies I can watch over and over and never tire of.
I feel phase 5 big time lmfao. I enjoy so many different kinds & styles of film, but I always come back to my old favorites that struck a cord from me from the youngest age. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Predator, Terminator, Alien(s), Robocop. The fact that they all hold-up well into my adulthood is what keeps 'em well-entrenched as my all timers. Being able to go back and genuinely appreciate the sheer love and craft that went into all of them. I fuckin' love movies, man.
My favorite thing after entering stage 5+ is when people hear you’re a “movie buff” and yet you haven’t seen “Random 2000s Era Comedy #62” so how could you really be a movie buff? “Sorry I’ve never seen Scary Movie 4, Dale, have you seen Sansho the Bailiff? How about The White Ribbon? No? Didn’t think so.”
There is a difference between liking Star Wars in Phase One and Phase Five: In Phase One, the individual usually likes Star Wars because it was an enjoyable experience. In Phase Five, they will explain, in meticulous detail, how it is a masterpiece - how the writing is perfect (at least for the OT), how the VFX is a masterpiece and how it pioneered in that field, etc. Also, underrated channel; great stuff keep it up
Lmao yup, you hit the nail on the head. Don't forget the legendary John Williams score on top of all that. And also, thank you so much! I've only been making videos for a few weeks now, and this skit was the most fun I've had making a video so far. Definitely plan on doing more, got my next one almost done.
Nick Cage has to be admired for his commitment to the role and incredible work ethic. Adaptation, Bad Lieutenant, Leaving Las Vegas, Face Off, to name a few are well directed and beautifully shot. It is simply ignorant to write him off based on National Treasure jokes.
@nl3064 Phase 2 cinephile detected. Th camera setups, the practical effects, the framing/establishing shots, the color, theyre classic examples from their era and incredibly comfy. Nothing exotic because it wouldn't suit the film. They can't even make films like that today it's all fucken computers out the wazoo. Vampire's Kiss is another one, total retarded script but the sets, the costumes, and the bumper shots of the city are great.
And by "classic examples" you mean bland and conventional. And "incredibly comfy" is a vague, nothing phrase from personal opinion. And just because something is done practically, how does that inherently make it any less shitty? And just for reference, you, who are so easily impressed by the completely conventional and think decrying all C.G. alone makes you superior, what phase do you think you're at ? 🤔
These are the type who want to work in film and tv: Study for 4-6 years in "cinema" whilst being pretentious about films Leave Uni Fail to get into, or cannot hack working in the industry and not being on a camera from day 0 Flunk out, blame the industry, open a letterboxd account and make short films that lack any depth, personality or technical prowess
If there’s anything I realized from watching films and analyzing them it’s that there is a line between criticism and complaining. Many people do the latter and mistake it for the former.