The LIGHT FURY design is WRONG 

Everyone is talking about Stormfly being a good example of not so “girly” female dragon, but what about Meatlug 😤😤😔👊

Literally every argument here can be debunked by saying she isn't a night fury. And guess what. She isn't a night fury.

Here is my suggestion for a more detailed, less basic Light Fury Design: - Change pure white color into an off white grey or ivory - Instead of sparkle scales make them speckled, like a shark or seal. - Get rid of dragon eyeshadow - Add more obvious scales!!!! She's supposed to be streamlined like an aquatic type, so make it so that she can actually blend into her surroundings. But what do I know, apparently I need a basic design for me to tell the sex of a dragon.

This is sad because it means that Toothless really is the last night fury. I was hoping he'd find one like him but the Light fury is still so pretty

I think light furies are either meant to blend into the clouds, or into the snow.

There's an argument why I do like light furies being a subspecies, especially if their habitat is evolutionary supposed to be the arctic or a colder climate between crystals or something. In that case the color white is not a disadvantage. Arctic wolves are a subspecies of grey wolves and when they interbreed with other subspecies they create fertile offspring. If you compare an arctic fox and a red fox, you can see that the arctic fox has a shorter muzzle and smaller ears than a red fox. Their features are smaller to prevent losing heat. These are even key features to tell their skulls apart. Since we don't know how female night furies or male light furies look like, we can assume that these features are key features for their subspecies and might tell something about their habitat. That's my point of view at least.

This was made before the movie came out, so I'll give passes to the lack of camouflage discussion; we later discovered that the light fury has microscopic white scales that refract light and make her disappear when she flies through fire/lightning, which admittedly was a logical reason to make the light furies white and "glittery" that fit with other dragons' abilities in the Dragons universe. That being said, I am STILL pissed about the light fury's design despite that clever workaround. It wasn't explained in the movie that she's a subspecies, and we're led to believe that she's just Toothless' beautiful female love interest, maybe a different species maybe not unless we seek out other HTTYD media. She sticks out like a sore thumb, and it's confirmed in the artbook and developer commentary that she was deisgned to look as feminine as possible to appeal to Toothless and the audience, which is super disappointing when you take into consideration literally every other female character in the series, whether dragon or human. They all have some level of dishevelled appearance and toughness about them, even Hiccup's love interest, and in the dragons' case females and males are almost always indistinguishable. That's really rare for animation, and I held HTTYD close to my heart for portraying the "ugly" side of female characters for a change, showing they're just the same as their male counterparts. At least until THW came along, that is.

Does she know there are MALE light furies as well?

She's a female of a subspecies, she's technically not a night fury.

toothless has more antennas because it helps him see in the dark along with his echo location ability but light fury is obviously a day hunter as it blends in more with a bright background which is also why she has less antennas because she doesn't have to see in the dark

i'm not sure if you mention this later, but her head markings are pink sparkly hearts. i don't believe we ever really see her interacting with water. Many people defend her design saying she's an arctic subspecies, but i don't believe this was mentioned anywhere. Rather, I'd argue that she is supposed to blend in with the clouds or skies with her reflective scales. although she was caught by trappers, the animators stated they didn't want her markings to look like SCARS. i hate the fact that toothless went from an unseen, elusive and intelligent dragon to the mary-sue one of a kind alpha.

honestly a brown/tan or even a grey/silver subspecies would still stand out at a distance and be more realistic since they are based off cats and wild cats have those kind of colorations to help them blend in with their environment so they can hunt and avoid predators and if she had more features that allowed her to survive such as longer ears ect it would both be realistic and stand out!

Talked to a friend who actually did animation for this movie. Both Toothless and his new girl (haven't watched it yet) were based off cats.

_Actually_ , Toothless and the Light Fury's babies may be called Night Lights... I may have done a _little_ bit of research.

I think this can be explained by saying that, in reality, the night furies are a subspecies of the light furies and not the other way around. The light furies only live in the hidden world, because when they came out they evolved into the night furies, more prepared for the outside world and that's why they became black and had other changes in appearance. That's why toothless also has invisibility as a recessive characteristic, he doesn't need it anymore, because he is black, like the night sky. Remember that the night furies were originally based on axolotls, which live in caves, like the hidden world. Who looks more like an axolotl, the night fury or the light fury? With this, many of the points that girl mentions as an evolutionary recession are nullified. On the issue of feminising it, we hardly know what the males of this species look like, so I can again rely on all of the above. I hope I have made myself clear

A female night fury was what we expected, what we wanted, what we didn’t end up with.

You have a few flaws in your arguments here. Or rather the person who wrote this did. First off, to accept this argument you have to accept that the Light Fury is just a Female Night Fury, which is not the case. As you mentioned, the Light Fury is a subspecies of the Night Fury which means it doesn't have to have the same characteristics as it's parent species. It's like saying that a Male Tabby cat is better suited to protect the young vs the parent female Orange Tabby cat because the male can blend into the environment better. To add to this argument, Toothless's origin is feline; not avian or reptilian. If you want a good toothless drawing reference look up a picture of a cat and squish its head down a little, you will instantly see what I mean. Secondly, this is a movie. If we really wanted to be biologically accurate here, Hiccup would have gotten his head bitten off when he cut Toothless loose. The idea was to stretch the imagination and go beyond nature. For freaks sake, we are talking about a movie all about DRAGONS! They aren't going to be biological about it because there isn't a reason to be. Third, your argument about the Light Fury not being able to blend in is revoked by the trailer. Not really sure how it works, but the Trailer clearly shows a shot of the white dragon shooting a fireball into the sky, flying into it and disappearing. Maybe a little obvious at first, but completely invisible after. Fourth, the light fury scales are still there. However, they are smaller and against the white color of the dragon, it makes it very difficult to see the highlights of the scales. If you look closely though, you will notice them. Fifth, coming from an animating perspective, the Light Fury not only looks great, but is a great counterpart to it's darker parent species. It give a contrast, which is a very useful design tool used consistently by artists. How often do you see a copy and a paste of a character from a movie? Hardly ever, because it is lazy design to take a character and change just a few things about it. I think they did an outstanding job when it comes to a counterpart for toothless. Sixth, it is specifically mentioned in other HTTYD movies/shorts that Berk has a primarily Winter environment (The Gift of the Night Fury even goes so far to say that it is winter 90% [I can't really remember the exact percentage, but it was above 50%] of the year in the intro) Coupled with this, the Trailer also highlights an entirely new environment. Isn't the name of the 3rd movie "HIdden World"? I would expect it to live up to that name, and from what we have seen of this environment is that it is very neon. There are a lot of bright and vibrant colors that would stand out far more than white. The argument of the eye's vs the antennae also would not be valid. Although the hidden world is underground, we have also seen that it is full of light. It did not seem like the characters needed a torch to navigate through the cave as it was lit by bio-luminescence. This would mean that the Light Fury's eyes would likely still be developed and would not need to rely on antennae as much, especially considering the contrast provided by the environment. She would easily be able to navigate the cave without antennae. Seventh, you stated that you were remaining "politically neutral," but look at the title of your video. "The LIGHT FURY design is WRONG" That doesn't sound neutral to me, especially considering your argument was heavily weighted towards the redditers point of view. Eighth, This argument is all based off of small clips seen from a trailer. We have 2 1/2 minutes of footage to back these arguments, most of which were clips from previous HTTYD movies. A 2 1/2 hour production is yet to come and we know hardly anything about the Light Fury. You haven't even given this design a fighting chance before heartlessly shooting it down from the sky, much like Hiccup shot Toothless down. Finally, your conclusion was that the Light Fury design was lazy and suggested that they should have made the Light Fury extremely similar to the Night Fury. If that suggestion isn't lazy design, I don't know what is. Seriously, look at the suggestions that you gave and tell me that isn't lazy design. I saw a literal copy and paste of toothless, nothing added, and a copy paste with a few random brush strokes and you are trying to say that is a more "unique" design than a fully different 3D Model. Based on that alone, I would say I have plentifully proved my point here.

She could hunt at day, using the clouds as cover? Then the roundness would make sense

The light fury could make herself invisible, someone remember that? She doesn’t have to blend into the sky She can make herself invisible and no one can catch her

The main reason why i respected dreamworks was their amazing details in the natural way of the dragons. Like in the tv series, i was so amazed by how they had dragons link into the world's ecosystems. Now that all the dragons are IMMEDIATELY gone, what happened to the world's ecosystems?

I just realized... *TOOTHLESS IS GOING THROUGH PUBERTY*

She's white because she lives further north in the white color is most likely to blend in with the snow at least that's my theory

The lightfury kind of seems like a nightfury that evolved in a place with no natural predators. That's why they don't blend in as much, have smaller ear things, etc. Kind of like how axlotls have no real defense because they have few preditors.

Just wanna say The light fury is definitely *not* helpless

They never even talked about the fact that she can go invisible/ camouflage

I think another good option: The light fury is just a different species. Neither a tiger nor a lion is 'wrong.' They can breed with one another, because they are in the same basic family of big cats. It's not ideal, but they can. The Light Fury is just correct for HER species/subspecies.

They’re different species. And her scales look like that so that way, when under extreme heat they become mirror like. The glitter isn’t really glitter, but more so the glint of specifically shaped scales that will refract light in a way that would make her seem almost like a hologram. It also plays into her camouflage ability. Chances are, Light Fury’s evolved from NightFury’s millions of years ago and migrated to an environment similar to that of a seals. The sleeker design might indicate that they can swim. And the Light Fury’s Antenna things might not be as big due to cold weather, and the larger they are the harder it is to keep the entire things warm and functioning.

Spoiler warning just in case you didn’t watch the movie! Light fury’s can camouflage into the background, basically go invisible, like chameleons. She could be invisible when ever and where ever she wanted to, she doesn’t need to worry about blending in if she’s invisible. She also doesn’t need to blend into the night, she’s a light fury, meaning she’s probably out during the day blending into the clouds and the bright sky (on clear whether obviously)

What if light furies are ground based hunters that only fly to travel or flee? This would explain why their ears are shorter, and have smaller bodies, also if they live on White beaches or arctic regions, The White is more useful on The ground than The air

These are both missing a very important point about the light fury. She literally has the ability to turn invisible (As seen in the trailer) and is probably a big reason why she's white and glittery in the first place. Light furys in a way are a counterpart to night furies where she also probably wouldn't be hunting at night, but instead during the daytime where she can reflect the sunlight off of her in a way where it helps her disappear in the sky or even more so into clouds which are white and resemble the light fury's skin almost perfectly. Her eyes are blue like the sky because any other colour would stand out way too much and give away her location in an instant if she was to look around. (There's a certain kind of fish that does this as well but I can't remember their name so if you know it please let me know!). She wouldn't need long whiskers either because there's more light during the day so she can just use her eyes to see where she's going, so instead they've been reduced probably also so that she is more aerodynamic and can move faster in the sky as well. The other thing to note is that Toothless doesn't show an interest in eating land animals like sheep, but instead he prefers to eat fish. In the first movie it's even mentioned a couple of times that Toothless never went after the sheep or would kill humans, and when he was injured he seeked out a pond where there were fish for him to catch. I would assume that it would be the same for light furies where they both would most likely hunt in the ocean by diving down from the sky into the water to catch fish like Pelicans, Cormorants, or other birds that do the same which is why blending into the sky as opposed to the land would be more important. This could also be another reason why she has less textured, bumpy, scales because scales can create friction, especially when it comes to moving through the water. Her skin texture looks a lot like an actual axolotl or other water creatures like dolphins or even a beluga whale as well which suggests that light furies have adapted to become water dragons. She also even has a dorsal like fin along her back which probably is like a fish's dorsal fin to help keep her steady in the water. Another reason why her whiskers are short is also because long or big whiskers would slow her down in the water, so instead they're smooth and also look like they press up against her head to prevent them from catching on the water as she's trying to catch fish or from other fish or predators catching them and turning her into prey. This also explains why they're seen as so rare and hard to find because oceans are huge and also very unpredictable, especially during that time period. It's virtually impossible for anyone to explore the oceans fully compared to the land and it makes perfect sense why Light furies would adapt to the ocean in order to avoid their biggest predator, humans. It's a bit too difficult to tell right now as well but I wouldn't even be surprised if light furies had adapted to be able to even breath underwater or hold their breath for way longer then night furies. Soooo... To me the light fury's design makes complete sense and no, I don't think that "They're feminizing the light furies blegh" at all. Her design makes a lot of sense and will probably make even more sense once the new movie comes out. Of course these are all just theories and I'm not a scientist or anything (Although I do love biology and I watch way too many animal documentaries... And I also do a lot of research on animals as I am a character designer myself -Not really professionally but it helps me pay the bills- so I guess those are my credentials? Haha) and I'm just writing this off the top of my head so there's probably flaws in my prediction or idea as to why the light fury is designed as she is... Buuut maybe this will help fill in the gaps just a little bit?

She- she- she is a different breed of the “Fury” dragons maybe she is the female variant of her species, now yes what you say is the correct stand point from an animation view needing to show the sexual dimorphism between the two but she is still a different breed with different survival traits that she might need a smoother and more “small” profile to her.

In some of the trailers it shows she is not afraid to defend herself and her design make people underestimate her And her weight skin help her land into the clouds

Light furies blend in in the day. Night furies blend in in the night.

Actually quite a lot of reptiles show extreme sexual dimorphism, with many snakes the female is much larger than the male and some lizards have incrediblely vibrant males with females being a duller, more camouflaged version (google Spider-Man agama they are crazy) Personally I think she’s this colour due to leucism, a gene which is common in birds and reptiles but can be found in other places. This gene causes white or pale patches of skin or in some cases, mostly with snakes, they’re entire body is this pale colour, interestingly enough it doesn’t effect the eye like an albino allowing the natural colours to come through. Of course her eyes are blue but if it’s anything like a cat (part of the inspiration behind this species) it could be an age thing, but there’s also another gene found in reptiles that gives them blue eyes so it could be that too.

Alteori:You missed the dreamworks night fury! Me who spots the night fury every time i watch the movie:You underestemaite my power.

Your forgetting that the Light Fury can turn invisible. When i watched the movie, the Light Fury seemed to turn invisible easier than Toothless. So they could very well stay invisible for most of the time hense their lack of pigment and features as you stated, they wouldnt need to be created with the same or more features as toothless if they can easily turn invisible.

The redit person did have a fair argument, however, quite a bit of what she said has plenty of exceptions in real life. As for the size difference, the majority of lizards have smaller females. She compared them to birds, but are dragons not reptiles? Sure, they fly, but that does not make them a bird. They still are scales covered, so I feel a more strong argument could be made with comparison to reptiles. As for the coloration, she could easily blended into clouds, into mist (both the cloudlike mist and mist made from waterfalls). Also, being such a powerful animal with the ability to scratch, bite, and blow your face off with a plasma blast. Blending in isn't as important for animals with tons of defense. Also, as for the lack of scales, there are in fact many snakes bred to have "no scales" which are actually just extremely tiny scales the human eye cant see. As for the tiny facial fins, this can easily be a result of her being a different speciese of animal. If it is simply a difference between the sexes, isn't it similar to how men tend to have a larger muscle mass? Perhaps it's an attraction thing, like how many male lizards jave a flap of skin to extend from the throat for attraction while tje females don't , or have tiny ones. For an example, look at iguanas. In all, I feel that there is nothing biologically inaccurate in the light fury, and in the end, it's a fantasy film. Not everything needs to line up 100% with real world animals. They're dragons, and so the animators should be creative in the I design.

It's a different species with enough similarities to breed wth night furies. That's it.

if yall are being realistic. No matter how much the animators love the project they need to make it as "sell-able" as possible. As Rebecca Perham (I can explain studios) who's friend, in fact WORKED ON THE FILM said. "They had to take a whole dragon out half way through production because they couldn't find a way to make it into a toy" plus, saying "iTs SeXiSt tO mAke iT lOok pReTtiEr " is absolutely ridiculous, it's a basic character design technique that artists use to make it more aesthetically pleasing. Also ITS A CARTOON WITH AN ANIMAL THAT DOESN'T EXIST. TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF A UNIQE ANIMAL (and from a movie that didnt come out yet) MAKES NO SENSE. Sense they debunked all of your points in the film, (i.e the white scales, body shape, and subspecies point) Sorry, passionate artist/animator here. This just kinda bothered me. Regardless, it's a well made video and I appreciate the research you did

4 words Lightfury not female Nightfury

In the first movie hiccup said “ it snows seven months and the rest it heals” so the light fury is a evolved one

It's a LIGHT fury, not a NIGHT fury. And as we've seen from the movies and show color being a major factor in anything besides being able to tell the same dragon from another her argument about color doesn't hold up to the lore. I don't think the color is important as far as a Light fury being lighter colors than a Night fury. In her argument she keeps trying to explain what a female night fury would look like so there really is no argument beyond, 'It's a LIGHT fury female, not a female NIGHT fury.'

Did anyone remember that she can turn invisible....?? No just me

I actually like the way the light fury looks, it's graceful. Also they actually did make the light fury look more like a night fury similar to your friend's edit. They show all of the concept art for the light fury and why they went with the final design in the art book they made. Dreamworks stuck with the final design of the light fury because they wanted something appealing to the eye, they were not focusing one evolution (it wouldn't look good on screen). Basically they wanted her to be powerful and graceful (you can find those words in The Art of How to Train Your Dragon:The Hidden World) Going back to your friend's edit, they did not keep their design that was like that because it simply did not look good on screen or as an important character that the audience would see a lot. They wanted the character to be clearly feminine and to be smooth and beautiful.

The thing is though: A lightfury isn’t actually a nightfury. It’s a subspecies. In httyd, both the males and females of a dragon species have virtually looked the same, so it makes sense that since these two dragons are in fact not the same species, they would look different. I don’t think dreamworks was trying to stereotype females and males, rather they were trying to stereotype light and dark. Dark being more brooding and strong and light being softer and more delicate. For all we know, lightfurys could just look like that regardless of gender. After all, it did show them living in a darker habitat correct? Hence the more pale and weaker features. They needn’t the physical attributes to fight as they are a “flight” species and can camouflage themselves. In conclusion, this whole argument seems very pointless and illogical to me. But this is just my opinion.

This is ridiculous, the light fury isn't a night fury so that half of the arguments shot down. Plus, she's the same size as Toothless, she just has less appendages and spines so she looks smaller, which can be evolutionary explained because she's a cave dweller and they may get in he way in tight spaces, which ALSO explains her white color as many cave dwellers gain pale coloring. In short, quit looking for reasons to complain, I don't like the charecter design either but for reasons concerning her head, it needs more "ears" and the nose is too pronounced.

THE LIGHT FURY IS WHITE BECAUSE OF IT'S ABILITY TO BLEND IN *WITH THE DAYTIME*

But while that person made really good points, "Light furies" can literally disappear into their surroundings which can actually help them survive better than the "Night Furies" because they can not only stay safe and hunt at night, but stay safe during the day. But I also think that the "light fury" is simply a similar, but smaller species of dragons that's very closely related to night furies, but still not closely related enough to be a subspecies.

Yall are taking this kids movie wayyyy too seriously...

I think this is more a matter of opinion and design... I mean technically we see no sexual dimorphism in the other dragon species, Meatlug and Stormfly for instance look just like any other Deadly Nadder of Gronkle. If it was the case between their genders there are equal reasons why there could be dimorphism in the light and night fury species considering they are said to be intelligent and possibly not from that part of the world. I mean croc males for example are much larger than the females as well as bullfrog. Then there's also the simple reasoning that males need to advertise themselves and ward off rivals while females often do not. there is already a snow white dragon the Snow Wraith in the canon its not too far fetched to think the dragons have many adaptations

May I also say her design almost looks aquatic not only for the small and sleek sizes, but reminds me of a fish with fins, you can see where her scales should be, they’re more like fins or something. And the bulbs on her attenti things, they seem more obvious than the ones on toothless. And also it is shown light fury’s have the same cloaking and they hide better when flying during day time

Night Furies evolved into Light Furies in result of having to flee to more arctic climates and eventually adapted to blend in with blizzards and snow. Maybe even hiding in the snow when unable to fly (harsher blizzards, hail, etc.) There are fewer antenne because of this and said antenne are shorter as to not stick up out of the snow when hiding. They may also be shorter as to be faster when flying in blizzards.

I think the Light Fury is a subspecies of the Night Fury that is designed to live in a cold environment. The sparkles on her body look like they'd help her hide in the snow. She could hunt fish under the water or something, hence the streamlined appearance.

The light fury could hide in clouds and disappear

My main “theory”, that you already kind of mentioned, is that the light-furies mostly or all live in the hidden world. (And yes there are multiple lights-furies seen in the hidden world during a certain clip). That seems the most logical answer. Since it’s *hidden* world, the only real danger would possibly other dragons (but again seen in the movie, most dragons seemed to get along well, at least during the ceremony). So that would explain why she has maybe a bit shorter muscle (or what ever there was about that). But for their “softer” body they make up with their camouflage/ invisibility skill, that toothless didn’t seem to have. In fact I’m pretty sure it’s much easier to camouflage if you have a smoother body - the texture would be harder to see and smooth scales would probably turn more easily. Also wanted to add, that when I said all light-furies live in the hidden world, that doesn’t mean they never go outside - how did the main light-fury get out otherwise. I think they kind of fly around the hidden-world-entrance area or something, and are rarely seen anywhere near human-activity. Like the guardians on the hidden world or something like that.

If they looked the same, you wouldn't be able to tell what dragon s on scene

Actually, since toothless is so dark he'd actually kinda make a visible silhouette in the night sky. This is the same thing with ninjas, real ninjas used darker blues because straight black would actually make them stand out against the moonlight.

Someone tell this redditor that light furies can turn invisible. The director Dean DeBois already explained why light furies are more allusive. I respect her research into the biology but she needs to realize that Toothless and Luna aren't thd exact same species. And Luna's design was meant to compliment a white cat were toothless is a black cat.

Its great, having seen the movie though. Its suggested her smooth skin helps her do her mirror-camouflage trick,,, Also shes kinda badass in the film. She is a powerful and beautiful dragon.

She kinda reminds me of a scaleless snake, or more axolotl based design

I just realized the light fury seems more aquatic

the antennae grow with age though, it's shown in the second movie when valka counts toothless's antennae to find out his age, so probably the light fury is much younger than toothless

Tbh it’d make sense if she was an albino nightfury who’s put in extra effort to camouflage, but the light fury thing also works. She’s evolved to live in a different habitat then the night fury and goes out at day instead of night, which explains her colours.

I love how this person complains and all the comments are just easily telling why she has her features.

I mean we all saw the hidden world, which is a cave, so it is possible that light furies live there so they don't need dark colors. A lot of cave species are albino or even transparent. I also heard from somewhere (I forgot) that light furies heat up their scales and reflect their surroundings or something similar, which don't give them an evolutional disadvantage at all. Also I think the antennas are more of an echolocation device?? If light furies do live in caves they don't need that much echolocation I guess, just cause they don't go out to hunt that much. Let's wait till the movie comes out.

Both of you guys have seem to forgotten that The light fury has a special cloaking power like a change wing .

Hiccup found toothless in the dark sky and managed to hit and some may say lucky shot but he managed to track him pretty well but in the light furies case she was unnoticed by at least 200 Vikings and 300 dragons until she has shown herself

It’s almost like the light furry was supposed to be a reflection of toothless but she blends in with the day and some special abilities that toothless does not have

One thing: the light fury is a total different dragon. It said in the trailer.

“They took away almost all her scales” *but if you look closely they are right there*

Even the Rise of Berk game says that the night lights were hybrids of a night furry and light furry "this is a proof"

I understand why the argument, but the whole point of making it so different is that it is a subspecies; it is not supposed to look like just a female Night Fury because it is not a female Night Fury, it is a Light Fury. Also, the sleeker, smoother looks give off a different personality: while Toothless is shown to be fun, curious and clumsy, she is elegant, reserved and gracious. Also worth noting is the fact the Night and Light Fury have not just design inspiration from axolotls, they also get clear inspiration from cats (come on, black with green eyes and white with blue eyes, both with widening and thinning pupils; Toothless and the Light Fury are just a big, scaly black cat and a big, scaly white cat). The personality traits of both seem to be inspired from the characteristics cats are known for: for Toothless, clumsiness and curiosity, while for the Light Fury, graciousness and elegance.

Maybe it was just a simple design choice....not everything is some grand conspiracy....

You keep bringing up that the light furry stands out too much and is too easy to see and isnt camo but in the trailer its heavily implied that she can turn invisible or "disappear".

3:40 Light fury can camouflage it self in the clouds That's the reason why it's white

OK here I go -First of all, she is not a Night Fury, she is a LIGHT Fury -Her living circumstances are different of Toothless's, underground in the Hidden World, and she is not a night dragon, her design is fitted to blend in with the sky -When she plasma blasts, her scales are meant to make a mirror like effect, and that's why she has smoother, more sparkly scales -Going back to where you pointed out that birds and reptiles are closely related to dragons (although the different dragons are based on certain animals), she could be bigger than the male of the species, and not bigger than Toothless because he is a NIGHT Fury -I'll quote from the book "The art of Dreamworks How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World" "At first, we thought about just doing a white version of Toothless, but then we added a lot of subtleties that distinguish the two of them. Dean (DeBlois) insisted they were not the same species, which was very important to him, so we had to come up with an entirely new dragon." -Pierre-Olivier Vincent, Production Designer. It goes on to say that it is more difficult to draw a female than a male character (believe me) and the book also says that they had to control her while keeping her powerful but graceful so that she wasn't too reptilian, like the other dragons. -They created the Light Fury to have slightly different movement than Toothless, to complement her design -The filmmakers referenced big cats, such as lionesses, not lizards, whereas Toothless is more lizard like -This is the magic of animation, to create amazing creatures and worlds and so much more. There is so much detail that goes into these movies. The crew went to flight school to study the science of flight, small details are never ignored, and there is always a way to explain these details. The animators did their homework, they studied certain animals to get the right feel for the dragons. If you didn't work on the movie, you have no say whether the design is right or wrong. I don't care if the person behind the Reddit post is a veterinarian and has an animation degree, they weren't in the production of the movie. The animators intend for her to look the way she is. I know everyone has their own opinion, but I am just saying there is fact to why the Light Fury looks the way she is -Last of all, she is a Light Fury, and not a Night Fury.

What about snow... these are vikings, cold and dark, snow and ice and little sun... also clouds are white.

Vikings lived in Norway and like Hiccup says it snows a lot so maybe she has to blend in snow

What I don’t understand is nobody is talking about how easily Toothless can be seen during daylight hours.Unlike the Light Fury,a Night Fury can blend in with the night.And unlike the Night Fury,a Light Fury can blend in with clouds(unless it’s a cloudless sky)and what about Light Fury’s invisibility?From what we’ve gathered from the past three movies(and spin offs and tv shows etc.)Night Furies cannot turn invisible,so they’re obvious in the daylight.And that’s why they probably stay out of sight until nighttime.But who’s saying the Light Fury can’t do the same?I don’t really think either of them are weaker Now,I haven’t payed well attention to the video,so sorry if Alteori(and the Reddit writers)explain this.

Well, her design makes a lot of sense considering she is not a night fury in the first place and shouldn't be held to night fury standards. Also, maybe she lives in the arctic where her color and even the glitter makes more sense, it helps her blend in with the snow. Her smaller features help her body trap heat instead of losing it on giant antenna that aren't absolutely crucial for her survival. If she lives in the arctic, maybe she doesn't hunt on land and is instead more like a polar bear or a seal, diving for fish, which would again help to explain her design. Thicker skin helps to insulate their bodies underwater, like a seal and if her main food source is fish, which aren't known for fighting back, she wouldn't really need scales. If she has any preditors in her environment she can fly away and literally turn invisible, she can also fight back so I think she'd be fine. Anyway, this is just my thoughts on this and I have no way of knowing if I'm right or wrong, this just makes the most sense to me.

I don’t mind that the light fury is white and sparkly. Since it’s a subspecies, it doesn’t necessarily have to be an exact replica of night furies, and this gives the female her own individualities for the filmmakers to apply throughout the movie. With that being said, the one thing I don’t like is how smooth she is compared to literally EVERYTHING. The backgrounds are all shaded and detailed, the people and places etc and especially Toothless is extremely detailed. I just wish they had detailed her more with more visual depth. The glitter is perfect but it would’ve looked better if it outlined the bumps and spots that Toothless has... 🤷‍♀️

To be honest here, from the photos you've presented, I can see how a light fury would be able to survive. The area that she appears to be found in looks misty. And idk if you know this, but white mist and a white dragon would make her completely vanish in it. Hell, you might not be able to see their eyes through that. She might live in a waterfall area, one where she would blend in exponentially with the mist, or the foam of the water. Which, would honestly make her pretty deadly. Also, she does have scales in that picture, they're just extremely small. Perhaps she has no scales so that she is faster, or can use the bio luminescence to glow bright or go invisible. In which case, that name "Light Fury" makes sense. Maybe she can glow REALLY bright, and blind attackers so she can get away. Much like how butterflies open and close their wings to scare off predators with their bright colors.

I am so annoyed by the people who complain about a characters design from a CHILDRENS film! Also why did she compare them with just birds when they still equally share similarities with lizards.

there’s a reason why the light fury is probably a day hunter and can camoflauge

i t s a m o v i e a b o u t *d r a g o n s*

My big question is why light fury’s aren’t called day furies

K, I really hate it when people do that : ‘weak and helpless’ thing to woman, make me ANGRIE, But did anyone notice her blast is so much more powerful than toothlesses? AND he never learned to turn invisible? Also, she’s called: innocent, but do you notice how feral and strong and ferocious she is? Also she’s not a different species, this can happen with several animals in real life, take the mallard duck for example, she’s a female version of the night fury, a ‘lightfury’. Different colour, smaller, etc. (Even though I believe in girl power alright? I like the way she is.)

I think a good way to design her would be to give her scales that were bioluminescent and she could control them as a form of Communication kinda being able to turn to scales on and off

Here’s my theory: we have never seen light furies, other than this one, outside of “the end of the world”. We can probably assume that the light furies are white because they live in a colder climate. We see other light furies in the giant hole in the ocean thing, and we can safely assume their are male light furies. If light furies lived everywhere people would have noticed them. Maybe the light furies hunt throughout the day. If they almost all live in the hidden world, meaning that there aren’t many land masses around then. Meaning they would probably eat mostly fish, and fish aren’t that smart. The light colour and sleek design would be better for catching fish from an evolutionary standpoint. Also ITS A FREAKING MOVIE JUST LET PEOPLE ENJOY IT. But what do I know

My inner fan is saying: I don’t care, we’ll probably get more information in the movie And when I was watching this, I couldn’t help thinking “Subspecies” and the complaint on how she looks more feminine. Honestly, I could care less, she’s beautiful, and we see her act like a wild animal when she’s in a cage, and in the presents of humans. She fine and I can’t wait to see what they do with her. But I have to point out that she is a subspecies, and that means she isn’t going to look a hundred percent like female Night fury, and what if female Nigh Furies look smaller and slimmer, it means they can be more agile when hunting. And if we see a male Light Fury, what if he doesn’t look at all what Toothless looks like, maybe it would be smaller then Toothless, or the male Light Fury is just as smooth as the female and has soft feathers? I also have to point out, that maybe the reason she lived so long, is because Light Furies live in places where she is safe and humans or pray can’t get too. Or maybe she hunts on clouded days, to hide in the in the clouds. Different traits will affect how they live, and maybe her being smooth because she uses that to “hide” herself when she releases her blast, to hide herself. If you look at the design on her wings, she might use that to appeal as is she disappeared. Also, her design can’t be wrong unless they failed to copy a real female Light Fury. She is what we see her as. So it may be unfavourable, but it isn’t wrong. I can’t speak for the animators. We can’t know until the movie comes out, and analyze what the movie gives us. If it doesn’t make sense, then just wait for the movie because everything will be clear once the last movie is out.

All Furies have a cloaking thing where they shoot plasma and fly through it, so it doesn't really matter what color a Fury is as long as they use the cloaking power.

This is a movie, not everything needs to be realistic. Night furies, are nocturnal. Toothless only changed his schedules because he wanted to be with his friends, Hiccup, Stormfly, etc. The Light Furies are NOT nocturnal, like you said, she would die if she went out at night, she would obivously come out at morning when the fog and clouds are there (Light furies blend into the clouds and fog). Both night furies and light furies can cloak themselves, light furies do so by flying through their fireballs (heating their scales until it becomes mirror like), night furies do so by collecting enough power (lightning from clouds). From the fact that she gave toothless a chance to become her mate, she is fully grown, an adult, meaning her antennae was supposed to be that short. If Light Furies had bad eyesight, I still think she would be able to use eco location. But from the fact that she was always to find Toothless, means that she has an amazing nose. Sorry, if I’m wrong or If I have wrong spelling, my english isn’t perfect.

What if the Light Fury is supposed to blend with clouds and just dive down

But isn't she supposed to be living in a snowy area. She would blend in and she wouldn't need her whiskers as much because they wouldn't work as well. The cover also shows a snowy cave

Why does this even matter..? They’re talking about how this is unrealistic but THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT DRAGONS OML

+ what is the theme song in the video

4:16 great video, but it’s the male that’s green and the females are red

Let's not forget the suspension of disblief... it's a fantasy cartoon afterall. Though probably we'll get a better undestanding once the movie is out.

How The Light Fury Design Is Accurate Honestly, I think that the light fury isn’t just very feminine. I feel like since in the name it’s called a “light fury” it was made for daytime, sky blue eyes and white scales with barely any bigger scales so she looks more dull and isn’t really that shiny. This would make sense since night furies are built for night so they’d be black. Plus, they’re mostly flying through the sky and only landing probably to rest in a hidden area, got an injury, or to eat food and drink water. I feel like the light fury would only be out at night from accidentally waking up and being hungry or having to use the restroom which would be why they saw it at night. Either the light fury flies in the day or she does at night but flies so high that it looks like she’s a star in the night sky from below. It’s not her being too feminine it’s her being a subspecies for day or extremely high altitudes. Argue with this if you’d like, it’s just my opinion on the matter. (Also I am female myself). Not only that, but when the light fury flies through her flames she creates, she becomes invisible. Also, since she’s white, she could of possibly lived in a colder climate. This could be why her face is more rounded and not slim like a night fury, probably carrying more fat because there isn’t much food in cold places. It’s most likely just the species not the gender since she is a subspecies. She also has smaller attributes because probably in colder areas where she most likely lived she needed to keep heat in her body so she wouldn’t freeze to death. Also, in heat, her scales act as a mirror to camouflage herself. The hearts on her scales would probably be for sunrise or sunset to look pink within the clouds. She could possibly be flying through the skies in high altitudes where it is also cold and almost always has clouds. Maybe they also have to fit into small areas to hide from predators as well, which could be a reason to why she is smaller and more slim and round. Light fury scales even look like snow! Not only that, but the female light fury isn’t afraid to defend herself and is VERY strong. They aren’t based off birds or reptiles, more so cats and axolotls.

Here's something..... As we see, we NEVER saw any nightlights before. No hybrids. Even in the new short Lightfury is an absolute stuck up. Dreamworks makes me so mad. In HTTYD 2, when Hiccup is sitting on a new little patch of land he found he says, "We might even find another NightFury out there bud..Wouldn't that be something?" and Toothless grunts. That was a PERFECT LEAD FOR THE FIND OF A FEMALE!!! But no, they had to make THIS UNCREATIVE dragon instead. Finishing off Toothless's kind.