THE LION AGAINST THE WOLF! THE CLASH OF RUSS AND EL'JONSON! 

Didnt the wolves kill 100 dark Angel's then leman talked smack to the lion?? And yet the lion let it slide despite the open disrespect. The lion yoinks leman's kill and leman throws a hissy fit and starts a fight . I'll let you decide who's the mature one.

The Lion is right

It was always cute that Russ thought he could best the Lion.

The mental juggling Space wolves go through to justify how Russ lost would make the changer of ways happy.

Not bad rho but you got a bit wrong lion when cutting off the head was ment to be a swift end and a protracted battle was not part of the plan. Lion went in because russ was taking way too long. Forcing the lions hand to stop needless deaths and that means it was the more honorable move from my point of view. Lion also won the fight, but I do love how close these two were in skill. I also think russ knows lion was the one in the right as well as how russ talks about the lion at the end of the book.

When Lion finally awakens from his catnap and Russ returns from his warp vacations they should hug it out. Imagime it like they bouth back and likr "bruh I missed you" "bruh I missed you too" and they hug like it would be akward and funny not just to us but probably to those that saw that😛

Lion El Johnson is petty, but he's right. It's so funny how you say Russ sees himself as the older brother to all but Horus, but the Lion is the First, and sees himself as superior to all. Just like the Legion he presides over, who were the first and at one point the ONLY, Lion El Johnson is capable of all things, even Alpharius level subterfuge and "betrayal". Him specifically though, only the Emperor's recognition of Horus prevents the Lion from being totally self-righteous. But the Lion is right here, a petty "oath" like that was meaningless, and Russ's emotion at Lion having done both of their work shows he's more like the younger brother the Lion considers him to be. The Lion's logic is flawless, but he just reaches it so much faster than other primarchs that you'd think no deep thought went into it. But that's just how the Lion is. He's just better, maybe too much better. Also, the Lion saying Russ couldn't be trusted wasn't because he thought Russ was not truthful/trustworthy or loyal in any attempt, but Russ couldn't be trusted to get the ultimate result as the Lion could. And that's also true, he didn't bring Magnus to Terra like the Emperor wanted, nor kill him like Horus wanted. He also didn't kill Horus when given the chance, the losses the SW sustained in that gambit basically taking them out of the Siege of Terra.

Didn't The Lion stab Russ in the aftermath of the heresy when they met in Terra or has that part been retconned?

Colour me surprised that Wolf Lord Rho is misrepresenting the clash between Russ and the Lion.

It’s funny how the Lion’s own sons were like don’t do it Russ is crazy 🤣🤣🤣.

If we're to consider the Primarchs as aspects of The Emperor, imagine the internal conflict possible in the Master of Mankind.

"Two sucker punches were thrown that day, only one primarch walked away"

This would be so great to have as a full animated, like, 45 minute short, of this entire ordeal, and hearing each and every word jabbed between the two, amidst the fighting. Getting the full, unfiltered emotions from the two.

Good old fashioned brotherly fighting isn’t always a bad thing.. it did bring them together. And it sets up a a cool future story arc of the two legions getting closer. Jus my thoughts. Thanks for the vid Lord wolf!

Lord Russ so many times is so childish, one of his captains killed our brothers,then when Father promised the head of the enemy boss he wasnt advancing at some point. Father is not at fault,he prevented the escape of the enemy. Lord Russ should acknowledge that.

I really think both Lion and Russ's purposes are misunderstood, or at least misleading. Russ often boasts about how he's the emperor's executioner, but I think he's really the enforcer. He's always more concerned about acting right in his own eyes, and in teaching lessons. When he talks to what he thinks is Magnus spy - he's trying to get his 'outlaw brother' who has broken the emperor's creed to surrender without a fight.... And then goes in to take him down.

Don't forget that each of the beachheads established by the 1st were not intended to hold indefinitely.

Having a giggle at the mental image of the Lion disarming the Wolf and mentally going 'Ok he's disarmed, fights ov-OOF!' as he gets tackled.

Rho I am a loyal son of Fenris and huge fan of you but I gotta admit I read this book twic and I see things a lil dif. The Lion specifically tells his men to not kill the enemy commander multiple times when the way was clear to them giving Russ all the time he could to sate his honor and uphold his promise to his brother. He only acts when time is up and the enemy leader might escape or the continued fighting will cost more of his and the Wolf Kings sons lives. Now Russ showing up and seeing the Lion steal his kill would in normal times provoke his temper but Russ was already in full fury after Bulleveye( who Russ thought of as his most loyal warrior) disobeyed him. Yes things totally escalated way to fast but Russ was the bigger man and stopped first seeing the ridiculousness of his and the Lions fight. Can you blame the Lion for laying him low, not really as the Lion is just as prideful as Russ, but the takeaway for Russ fans here is that Russ even though famed for his temper came to his senses first and not only that but Russ Showed the same restraint and sense when face to face with the Khan who rightfully deserved at minimum a beating if not death for actions, yet the cool calculating Lion loses his cool and acts like the beast he’s named for.

Hello Rho! Nice video: you do great work with this stuff! I believe you missed the part that the Lion went after the tyrant out of necessity due to the changing tactical situation on the ground for both the Angels and the Wolves. Had the Lion not killed the Tyrant of Dulan, reinforcements from the enemy would have outflanked the positions of both the Dark Angels and the Space Wolves.