The Locomotive Trapped in Limbo | Nickel Plate Road 587 | History in the Dark

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NPR 587 is a USRA Light Mikado 2-8-2 steam locomotive. She was fortunate enough to be preserved and have a successful excursion career. But lately, it's unknown exactly what is going to happen to her.
0:00 - Design
1:11 - Service Life
2:27 - Preserved
4:08 - Excursion Career
6:57 - Limbo
"Nickel Plate Road 587 is a 2-8-2 type USRA Light Mikado steam locomotive built in September 1918 by the Baldwin Locomotive Works for the Lake Erie and Western Railroad as its No. 5541. In 1923, the LE&W was merged into the New York, Chicago and St. Louis Railroad, commonly referred to as the "Nickel Plate Road", and allocated 587 as its new number in 1924. In 2003, the locomotive was being restored by the Indiana Transportation Museum in Noblesville, Indiana. However in 2018, the museum was being moved to Logansport, Indiana, forcing No. 587 to be stored in Ravenna, Kentucky by the Kentucky Steam Heritage Corp. Since its arrival in Kentucky NKP 587 has been sold by Indiana Transportation Museum to a private individual who will remain anonymous until more information is released at a later point. There are plans to continue the locomotive restoration, but if and when that will happen is unknown. It was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1984, but was delisted on November 15, 2021."
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@therectorrailroad2716 7 месяцев назад

I can’t talk much about 587, but I will tell you this, you guys don’t have to worry she’s not gonna get scrapped. 587 is in good place at Kentucky steam, know since I am a member.

@zaklex3165 7 месяцев назад

Are you still contracted to do the restoration time permitting...or has that since changed? Or do you not even know that was a thing?

@therectorrailroad2716 7 месяцев назад

@@zaklex3165 I don’t know

@geraldmcfarlane5937 7 месяцев назад

@@therectorrailroad2716 Thanks for the reply, I only asked because that was one of the things mentioned when the deal to store at KHSC was made.

@therectorrailroad2716 7 месяцев назад

@@geraldmcfarlane5937 no problem!

@Jimoff2Gaming 7 месяцев назад

I don’t want to be a downer, but I recently spoke with someone who was formerly partly in charge of Kentucky Steam. The gentleman said he left because of some shady tax stuff. He showed me how multiple people were working on it, getting paid for it. Handsomely. Plus, the numbers they said they spent made no sense, especially on the C&O Kanawaha. Over 200k spent, with false leads. He said they’d finish the T1 before the Kanawaha.

@matthewpowell2429 7 месяцев назад

Finally, a video of my favorite locomotive of ALL TIME! I hope she gets a chance at running again. She deserves better.

@RailPreserver2K 7 месяцев назад

The fact the engine was taken off the national register scares me because that usually means something that was once on the register is going to be destroyed, and yes that has happened plenty of times not just to buildings but to Vehicles as well

@vaclavmacgregor2464 7 месяцев назад

Likw USS Cabot?

@RailPreserver2K 7 месяцев назад

@@vaclavmacgregor2464 and clamagore amoung others

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

So off topic... but heh... thoughts on of course for of 587 when she appeared in the Old 587: The Great Robbery movie? :)

@RailPreserver2K 7 месяцев назад

@@jimmyhook4852I have the movie and enjoyed it and why did they show the Lost engines of Roanoke in the opening

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

@@RailPreserver2K Good question in regards to why they showed the Lost engine of Roanoke in the opening.

@michaelharrison1172 7 месяцев назад

One of the first steam trains I remember running as a kid. Was always a treat when it would pull the Indiana State fair train. I really hope it gets back on the rails!

@davidstrawn9272 7 месяцев назад

3:12 I didn't know 587 had a Mars light! I like 587, maybe they might restore her after restoration of C&O 2816 is completed.

@mikeyhowell5449 3 месяца назад

I have a place in my heart for 587

@harrisonofcolorado8886 7 месяцев назад

I first knew of the 587 when I watched steam in the summer by Railway Productions. And I felt shocked when I found out that she got disassembled after the ITM was evicted. I fear that the same thing that happened to the 5629 could happen to the 587, but I'm just praying that that doesn't happen, it would be a severe loss.

@RailPreserver2K 7 месяцев назад

All in favor of kentucky steam buying the engine ?

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

@@RailPreserver2K Aye

@TB587.3 5 месяцев назад

Can someone ATLEAST donate 587 to a god damn museum? -_-

@danielboone3770 7 месяцев назад

I love Nickel Plate Road #587 ❤

@TB587.3 6 месяцев назад

Me too

@GraysonsTravels1835 7 месяцев назад

The private individual in question I will not name though i do have some insight this will not happen this person cares deeply about steam and I will say does amazing work on them. Trust us in the Industry when I say she is in wonderful hands and by no means is getting jensoned Love your videos Darkness keep ‘em coming

@kristoffermangila 6 месяцев назад

"Jensoned", huh? That's a good one!

@whitetailfox1 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad that you're here to drag Jensen's name through the mud for all eternity Darkness.

@Ryebread1945 7 месяцев назад

Let's just pray that doesn't go downhill like with a certain usra light Pacific

@daskriegsman7013 7 месяцев назад

And that would be?

@Iliketrains444 7 месяцев назад

@@daskriegsman7013 I think he means Grand trunk western 5629

@theark-la-missrailfan 7 месяцев назад

GTW 5629

@Iliketrains444 7 месяцев назад

@@theark-la-missrailfan I thought so

@daskriegsman7013 7 месяцев назад

@@Iliketrains444 Oh right *sigh* Goddamn you Metra.....

@Tom-Lahaye 7 месяцев назад

A nice fact to know is that she, as being built as class H6-A for one of the subsidiaries of the New York Central, the Lake Erie & Western Ry that she survived being scrapped by the fact she was sold to the Nickel Plate Road. There was also a highly modified version built for the French National Railways, the SNCF, as class 141R which were a very reliable and good performing class of locomotives, hauling trains ranging from heavy freight to all passenger trains not exceeding 100km/h or 62mph.

@NewEnglandFoamer 6 месяцев назад

As much as we want 587 to run again, I’d rather her remain retired and on display rather then in pieces in a restoration taking as long as CN 7312

@sirtrailproductions8198 2 месяца назад

Nah Boston and Maine 3713 has been the longest restoration that’s still going on since 95

@bigboy-tk8vq 7 месяцев назад

hope 587 come back sometime in the future she needs a chance to shine and maybe double head with 765

@suzcant3320 4 дня назад

She started running during the bicentennial of British settlers coming to down here in Australia

@haydendegrow945 7 месяцев назад

You wanna know a sad thing? Before this video, I hadn't even HEARD of 587! But now that I have, I wanna start up a Kickstarter to buy her off of that mysterious owner and bring her back to glory! like, dude, I know the economy sucks right now, but YOU HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY! YOU CAN REBUILD HER!

@MorrisHillmanProductions 7 месяцев назад

Do you have the space?

@Zimmzamm 7 месяцев назад

Do you have a long term plan for raising money and maintaining the engine?

@edwardcarlisle5580 7 месяцев назад

Hey! I'm a fan of 587. I didn't know she had been disassembled though. I'm also surprised that you didn't mention the movie she starred in: 587: The Great Train Robbery. I always liked that film. Were you somehow not aware of her movie?

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

That's what I noticed as well.

@alastornightly3312 7 месяцев назад

@@jimmyhook4852 Finally, folks of culture!

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

@@alastornightly3312 Heh =3

@anthonyhunt701 7 месяцев назад

Illinois Railway Museum?🤔3rd working steam loco would be nice!👍🏻🚂

@CoalChrome 6 месяцев назад

No mention of her hilarious cracked whistle

@16jan1986 7 месяцев назад

Dsb R946 was in the same situation and ended up being scrapped

@gamerfan8445 7 месяцев назад

That was fast

@Iliketrains444 7 месяцев назад

An idea for the next video, you should cover pennsey 1361

@poowg2657 7 месяцев назад

Good looking, well proportioned. If it happened once it can happen again. She'd make an ideal runner for someone.

@8673Productions 3 месяца назад

The 587 is privately owned in Kentucky and the owner has plans for restoration.

@sp786fanboy9 7 месяцев назад

I’m more of a 786 and 745 fan, but I do see some significance 587 has here.

@bdub215 7 месяцев назад

Not one mention of 587's Broken whistle (which is now reparied and ALSO in storage but recently blown in Ravenna). That history is in the dark i guess.

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

And also not one mention of the movie that 587 starred in. :/

@petemiksich5760 7 месяцев назад

587 ran with 624's whistle due to the repairing of its' original. It has since been returned to the Fort Wayne Historical Society, which has 624.

@tramlink8544 7 месяцев назад

just to show how good the design was, in 1946 France puchased 1500 updated versions of these light Mikados, one of which i operate on in Switzerland (1244 141r) and ran them until 1975

@alastornightly3312 7 месяцев назад

I'm honestly surprised ye didn't mention her movie. That's how I knew of her.

@TB587.3 6 месяцев назад

Me too

@mikeyhowell5449 3 месяца назад

My grandfather work on the Nickel plate rail road and he run 587 Michcity to Indianapolis

@Trainboy587 7 месяцев назад

YEEEES FINALY

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

(Double commenting cause YEET :3) Still hoping for the video on Frisco 1522. ^^

@VintageRenewed 7 месяцев назад

I would suggest looking into the history of sumpter valley 19 and 20 Last two locomotives built brand new for their railroad, eventually go to Alaska while the tenders go to Central America, almost was gonna be put into a bay and then both are back on pretty much home track with their original tenders. Not to mention roundhouse fire and a major wreck for one of them

@TB587.3 6 месяцев назад

10:50 me neither! Especialy since 587 is my favorite steam locomotive.

@AnimalsVehiclesAndMore 7 месяцев назад

Can you please do a video of Timken 1111? I really want to see a video of the four aces locomotive.

@evangaines2303 7 месяцев назад

Hey Darkness, can you do a video of Union Pacific Challenger #3985?

@TheGs4_4449 7 месяцев назад

Plot Twist: Jenson pulled a William Afton and came back, and he’s the unidentified individual

@CrossOfBayonne 4 месяца назад

I actually have a friend of mine who's relatives knew him, He's also in contact with Ross Rowland founder of the AFT and High Iron Company

@TheGs4_4449 4 месяца назад

@@CrossOfBayonne Intresting

@CrossOfBayonne 4 месяца назад

@@TheGs4_4449 Thomas Dyrek, He's on YT as The Station Agent

@barakmiller2890 7 месяцев назад

I want to see a video on the progress of C&NW steam locomotive 1385

@Zimmzamm 7 месяцев назад

Surprised the Valley RR in CT hasn’t gotten their hands on it since they love to buy mikados

@williamchastain9510 7 месяцев назад

Can you do a video on the General Electric U50 diesel’s?

@PowerTrain611 7 месяцев назад

"...about the only modification that was ever made to her happened in late 1943 when she was given castings from Lima locomotive Works instead of her originals..." Can someone elaborate on this? Castings for what, exactly? Did he mean builder's plates?

@maozilla9149 7 месяцев назад

could you do a video of GWR Cathedral Class?

@CoalChrome 6 месяцев назад

My favorite part about the usra light mikes is they're based on 4501

@TB587.3 6 месяцев назад

Actually, 4501 didnt always look like that, when it was first built it looked diffrent, and it wasnt until 1930 it was modefied to its aperance we all know it as today

@CoalChrome 6 месяцев назад

@@TB587.3 that's not what I meant, SOU did later modify their engines to a more USRA appearance but in turn the USRA based the light mikes off of the Ms, particularly 4501

@haroldchase4120 7 месяцев назад

Frankly people will happily volunteer our time to help fix these trains .

@theromanorder 7 месяцев назад

please do a video on the porters steam loco the Japanese class d5, the Chinese QJ 2,10,2 or just exsamples of asian trains how do gear trains work something on saddle bolier and side tanks (like the big water boxes) tank engines double ended diesel trains (and electric) eletric trains American and European switches other then the British class 07-09 what to do if the train stalls one talking about the different types of steam funnles and there uses, a video on steam locomotive combination breaks (steam and vacuum brakes) a short video on how a Armstrong turn table works what did train flagman do what did trains (mostly steam) do when going in tunnels, ive heard of gas masks or just useing a wet cloth, or did they bring in other engines like later on they used electric trains, or were there no bigv tunnels. evaluation of electric trains why are some trains wagion tops (the stream lining thing to boilers) railway terms abd slang one on the meaning of flag and lantern colors like green on rear engine means theres another one coming soon, the different types of cut offs/reversers/Johnson bar some are a big lever, some are a big valve wheel, and ive also seen some that are like rods, one exsample is train sim world 3 and im not sure where to find the other reverser and how much water do steam trains take usually, and how much would the crew drink

@TheGrundyRailfan 3 месяца назад

Relax man, 587's in VERY good hands at KSHC.

@fireutility21 6 месяцев назад

I was visiting Kentucky Railroad Museum back in 2022, I had heard of locomotives being restored to operational condition and saw the Nickel Plate Road tender. The following day I had dinner on the RJ Corman "My Old Kentucky Dinner train" when I saw some merch and heard some conversation, and then later discussed with an employee. The rumor I heard was that RJ Corman Co. was in the planning stages to acquire a steam locomotive. I don't know how much of that is true, considering it's me hearing rumors and then putting 2 and 2 together....

@danielgoreham6656 6 месяцев назад

Kentucky Railway Museum is currently in the restoration of its own steam engine, the L&N 152. As for R. J. Corman, they donated their locomotive, Old Smokey, to KSHCO. Therefore, I wonder why they would restore 587.

@fireutility21 6 месяцев назад

@@danielgoreham6656 ah thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t entirely sure what the scuttle butt was

@Valdorxsnowpiercer 5 месяцев назад

Can you do the story of 587 sister engine nkp 624

@NovaGamingOnYT 7 месяцев назад

Can you make a video on someting from eastern Pennsylvania

@stelerElk 7 месяцев назад

If you know of *Nickel Plate Road **#587* because of *Old No. 587: The Great Train Robbery* from back in 2000, leave my comment a like.

@gamerfan8445 7 месяцев назад

That how I found about her

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

I tend to watch that movie on the First Day of Summer for me. ^^ I mean... it would make sense for the main timeframe of the movie to be somewhere around during the summer season, when the kids are out of school and all that. :)

@robertwebber1295 7 месяцев назад

I still remember the movie called the great 587 train robbery

@animal16365 7 месяцев назад

I believe that if the NKP 587 is scrapped. We will see Darkness....... Well.... He will make Darth Vader look like a very nice guy..

@user-nv6qv5qy7p 3 дня назад

It's not scraped in today. It is planned to be restored

@breakstuffinc 7 месяцев назад

On their website, The Indiana Transportation Museum claimed that Logansport IN was the new headquarters. I sent them a message offering to donate my time to relocate, but I did not get a response.

@bladeobrian2144 7 месяцев назад

I swear, I can’t think of this engine without thinking about that dopey low budget movie it was in way back when

@theisononthecake63 3 месяца назад

You used footage from the Indiana Southern Railroad from Indianapolis to Worthington

@76RSLT 7 месяцев назад

I have some experience with the National register, and don't think anything nefarious is going on there. Most likely the nomination was done by the State of Indiana listing the locomotive as having local or regional significance. Once the locomotives permanent location wasn't in Indiana, it would automatically be de-listed. It is now upto Kentucky/the new owner to relist it in Kentucky. If it is even eligible.

@jimmyhook4852 7 месяцев назад

You forgot to mention that 587 appeared in the 2000 children's movie... aka Old 587: The Great Train Robbery, @History in the Dark :/

@TheEerieMaster 7 месяцев назад

Cuz of course she was bought by a private individual... Well, we won't see her steam ever again

@quasimoto7662 7 месяцев назад

How much of a factor is it that the locomotive is no longer in its home state? Does location matter when it comes to the National Register? Because that could play a role in why it was removed.

@steveashcraft718 6 месяцев назад

I have a very bad feeling about this. A private person owning her might just decide to scrap her. That would be heart breaking.

@ryancampbell4119 7 месяцев назад

Worst is she may become static display

@TrainMedia00 7 месяцев назад

They could've just moved 587 to the Fort Wayne railroad historical Society with 765 was located or the reading & northern they restored 2102 but why not 587 if the owner won't fix her.

@kennethhanks6712 7 месяцев назад

Don't know to whom you refer to as "they" as old owner ITM was broke, etc and had no means to do anything hence the sale of 587 to get desperately needed funds for more pressing priorities. You also have to determine if Ft Wayne, or R&BM, or whoever had space and other resources to take in a non-owned loco along with their other requirements. The sale to private owner and move to KY Steam Heritage was, at the time (which was an extreme emergency situation), the best of of a bad lot of choices. For the immediate time being 587, though "in limbo" is NOT in danger of ceasing to exist.

@TheOklahomaHotrail 7 месяцев назад

9:03 you said 581

@HistoryintheDark 7 месяцев назад

Neat! I'm dumb.

@CrossOfBayonne 7 месяцев назад

581 was probably a scrapped sister

@Trainhead23 7 месяцев назад

if this anonymous is related to jenson...lets just say...if 587 goes "missing"...this person should...how to put this..."watch his back" if ya know what i mean.

@Nkp757railfan 6 месяцев назад

I know who owns her he is involved with the leadership of 2716 but I won't say any more about it.

@kristoffermangila 6 месяцев назад

I don't care for his identity, he has a right to his privacy. But the preservation community has long memories about private individuals who owns steam locomotives and either leaves it in a state of neglect or worse, cut it up for proverbial razor blades, thus the concerns from many individuals about # NKP587 is understandable.

@Nkp757railfan 6 месяцев назад

@@kristoffermangila if you knew who it is then you would know it is in good hands