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The long Story of Aragorn, Minas Ithil and Númenor - Tolkien Lore & Shadow of War (spoilers) 

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Time for Lord of the Rings lore. In the new Shadow of War footage we see Minas Ithil, but where is it, what's its story and what does it have to do with Isildur's heir - Aragorn? In this video I go through over 6000 years of backstory, starting at the War of Wrath, Beleriand and the creation of the Dúnedain Kingdom on the island Númenor (Elenna), which was inspired by the story of Atlantis, going over the foundation of the Kingdoms of men Arnor and Gondor and end with why Aragorn unites everything.
We will look at the story of white trees (starting with Nimloth), of Beren and Luthien, Eärendil and Elwing, Elros and Elrond and answer the question, what's the deal with Aragorn's snake ring - the Ring of Barahir. I will also talk about Gil-galad, Glorfindel, Círdan, Celebrimbor (Shadow of Mordor) and Elendil (Last Alliance between Elves and Men + dwarfs).
Of course Sauron, the Valar, and the Nazgûl (Ringwraith) unter the Witchking of Angmar play also a big role in this.
All from the books perspective - a summary of the background story so to say.
If you have only seen the Lord of the Rings movies, I ensure you: after watching this, you will probably be more confused or understand everything (like the bloodlines) and the details much better.
I go into some difference between Tolkien's books and Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies, but also Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War.
Spoiler Warning: this video could contain story parts, that could be used in Shadow of War. I also spoil the books and Shadow of Mordor.
If you want to know more about the Tolkien Lore check J.R.R. Tolkien's Silmarillion (1977), his Lord of the Rings (1954-1955) and The Hobbit (1937).
Check my Video of Gondor's neighbors in Rohan:
• History of Rohan - Hel...
Lore and History of the Elves and Cirdan:
• Círdan - History and L...
Or the Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War Trailer Lore Comparison:
• How does Shadow of War...
Sources and useful Links:
Audio only version of this video (if you want to support me, still check my YT channel ):
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Books:
Lord of The Rings (1955-1945; 1968) by J. R. R. Tolkien
The Silmarillion (1977) by J. R. R. Tolkien; edited by Christopher Tolkien
(Unfinished Tales (1980) by J. R. R. Tolkien; edited by Christopher Tolkien)
Internet Sites:
Detailed map of Middle-earth and Beleriand:
lotrproject.com
Fëanor's Genealogy:
tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Feanor
Tolkien Gateway:
tolkiengateway.net
Pictures from the:
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001),
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002),
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) movies directed by Peter Jackson
Middle-earth: Shadow of War Trailer:
• Official Shadow of War...
Middle-earth: Shadow of War Gameplay Trailer:
• Official Shadow of War...
Middle-earth: Shadow of War Minas Ithil Gameplay:
• Shadow of War: Minas I...
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@sawarunan
@sawarunan 5 лет назад
[Legolas voice] He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Nice one ^^
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 5 лет назад
Aragorn? This...is Isildur's heir? Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king! Poor, misguided Boromir...may he rest in peace
@mclovin1033
@mclovin1033 5 лет назад
My question is...if this line was unknown to gondor...how come when Boromir heard his true name he suddenly went woah....hes my king...nahhhh Like by just saying is father they knew his lineage....how?
@mclovin1033
@mclovin1033 5 лет назад
Nevermind lol found a LOOOONG detailed answer
@aldefs
@aldefs 5 лет назад
but my name is arathorn “keng/keeg” thao
@jayson42056
@jayson42056 4 года назад
This video is a great summary of the great lines of Elves and Men. I don’t think from watching the movies ppl will realize just how important Aragorn is considering his lineage going back to Numenor. The fact that all of this came from one man, Tolkien, makes me feel like an insect whilst this man created a fictional world so deep and complete with so many dif Gods, races, and languages.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you :) Yes from the movies alone this story and Aragorn's importance is pretty much lost (only hinted). Yes, Tolkien's creation is really impressive. He managed to connect all the stories. PS: sorry for the late answer
@EmrysMerlin8807
@EmrysMerlin8807 6 лет назад
So, and this is going to sound strange, but I find that your accent adds a certain amount of of presence or power to your videos. I get the sense that if you spoke Elvish regularly, it would be amazing. Happy to subscribe.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :) That is an interesting thought. I think being from Germany definitely helps with speaking elvish, because it is actually quite similar, when it comes to the pronunciation rules. Ofc the rolled "r" is not part of today's standard German anymore and only a dialect thing right now and we don't have the "th" sounds, which is always a bit difficult for Germans. Also thank you for the compliment :D
@EmrysMerlin8807
@EmrysMerlin8807 6 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames Interesting. I had never considered the similarities between the two I will have to look into it. In the mean time, may I make a request? One thing that's always interested me was the making and then changing of the actual landscape of the world. Could you possibly do a video going over some of that and explaining how Middle Earth physically became what it was in the Third Age?
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
That is a nice idea for a video. I put it on the list. I'm already in production of the next one, I also have at least one other lore topic on my list, that I want to do too. So it could take some time :D I think if you look at Old English (Rohan's language is actually Old English), you notice the germanic influences on the English language. E.g. Beowulf, which was a big influence for Tolkien's works: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CH-_GwoO4xI.html Elvish (Sindarin and esp. Quenya) sounds of course different, but the pronunciation rules are very similar, listen to Tolkien himself: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6de_SbVUVfA.html
@ARTVBASIC
@ARTVBASIC 5 лет назад
Haha this is going to sound weird too, but I could listen to this guy pronounce all those fancy elvish character names all day, especially "Ecthelion", matter of fact that's the reason why I subscribed to his channel.. lol
@darioluque9079
@darioluque9079 3 года назад
Weil er die Stimme einer Elfe hat.
@germaineboatwala-sidhva1079
@germaineboatwala-sidhva1079 6 лет назад
Don't let those snooty comments on accent get you! Your English is just fine, and different people in the world speak English differently. Live with it!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
No problem, they are actually quite rare. If I get a complaint (also relatively rare in comparison), then it's about the rolled "r" sounds in e.g. Elvish names ^^
@grantaum9677
@grantaum9677 5 лет назад
I'm 99% sure that this is how they spoke in Gondor ☺
@vonhumboldt1985
@vonhumboldt1985 3 года назад
I love your accent, thats one of the reasons i watch these videos ! Keep it up man ! Huge fan
@ginalapax286
@ginalapax286 4 года назад
I love the narration. It seems that i am living in middle earth listening to your voice. Love it
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you, happy you like it :)
@rolandmick5911
@rolandmick5911 6 лет назад
holy shit, can you imagine what a movie about the war against morgoth would be like?
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
It would be epic and like 10 movies. Alone Beren's and Lúthien's story. I just imagine the part were Beren "travels" over the Ered Gorgoroth with all its horros. Or the part where he fights against Morgoth's forces as one of his father's companions until the betrayal of Gorlim. It would be massive.
@elrifle24
@elrifle24 4 года назад
it would be a CGI shitshow like The Hobbit. iwould love to see it adapted well but The Hobbit trilogy made me lose faith in Peter Jackson.
@markeontiswillis2711
@markeontiswillis2711 4 года назад
It Would Be Hot
@Tanniss
@Tanniss 4 года назад
i enjoyed the hobbit series even if they should have just left it broken into 2 movies and i didnt find most of the cgi to be of poor quality but it wasnt perfect but in my opinion it didnt detract from the hobbit movies
@AnimeCritical
@AnimeCritical 4 года назад
@aaronsdavis The book was a children's book with hardly enough content. The battle of 5 armies is just a chapter in the book and bilbo sleeps through all of it. I am really glad that Peter Jackson showed the Dwarves in an epic light, just like the Elves and made the hobbit seem like a part of the same universe as LOTR. The book Hobbit does not even compare to the LOTR novels.
@jacksunbrown
@jacksunbrown 6 лет назад
Massive props on this man. I've been very curious about this pretty much my whole life but every time I've tried looking into it, obviously I was a little overwhelmed. Thank you👍🏻
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
@waltonsmith7210
@waltonsmith7210 2 года назад
Its nice that people from around the world, from different countries, cultures and backgrounds, have an appreciation and passion for this material. Thats the amazing thing about JRR Tolkien's works. Its fitting in this video particularly because it seems like the Numenor story is one of the most fundamentally human in the Legendarium. Of course they were tempted by the idea of immortality. The Valar kind of set them up. Its kind of like putting some humans in a paradisical garden and telling them not to eat the fruit f of a particular forbidden tree.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 2 года назад
Yes agreed. It's so nice that it connects people around the world. Also very good point.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
I hope this long Lord of the Rings lore video isn't boring. There are probably a few mistakes in it, too. Like Arnor's last king's name is Avedui not Avendui. In one text a space is missing and in the war against Angmar part, there are few parts that aren't precise (all this was going on for 550 years and Arvedui drowed before Eärnur arrived). If you have further questions, feel free to ask =) I hope you enjoyed the video.
@KenDelloSandro7565
@KenDelloSandro7565 6 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames excellent stuff as usual
@skyguy5763
@skyguy5763 6 лет назад
Epic😏
@taneraltun7533
@taneraltun7533 6 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames super gemacht mein Freund hab zwar nicht alles verstanden aber da ich die Bücher gelesen habe konnte ich gut folgen .schade das du das nicht auch auf deutsch machst.wie dem auch sei weiter so
@johnnybloom100
@johnnybloom100 6 лет назад
It was excellent, not boring at all.
@Hohenstein1871
@Hohenstein1871 6 лет назад
Taner Altun Ich bezweifle, dass er dich versteht :D
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 7 лет назад
I like Tolkien's description of the Dark Years of Second Age in one of his letters, it summarizes everything vital about Second Age, continental Middle-earth (there's naturally much more :)): "But at the beginning of the Second Age he was still beautiful to look at, or could still assume a beautiful visible shape - and was not indeed wholly evil, not unless all 'reformers' who want to hurry up with 'reconstruction' and 'reorganization' are wholly evil, even before pride and the lust to exert their will eat them up. But many Elves listened to Sauron. He was still fair in that early time, and his motives and those of the Elves seemed to go partly together: the healing of the desolate lands. Sauron found their weak point in suggesting that, helping one another, they could make Western Middle-earth as beautiful as Valinor. It was really a veiled attack on the gods, an incitement to try and make a separate independent paradise. Gil-galad repulsed all such overtures, as also did Elrond. But at Eregion great work began - and the Elves came their nearest to falling to 'magic' and machinery. With the aid of Sauron's lore they made Rings of Power ('power' is an ominous and sinister word in all these tales, except as applied to the gods). Sauron dominates all the multiplying hordes of Men that have had no contact with the Elves and so indirectly with the true and Unfallen Valar and gods. Thus, as the Second Age draws on, we have a great Kingdom and evil theocracy (for Sauron is also the god of his slaves) growing up in Middle-earth. He rules a growing empire from the great dark tower of Barad-dûr in Mordor, near to the Mountain of Fire, wielding the One Ring." Near the end of the Second Age the famous War of the Last Alliance happens (the realms in exile Gondor and Arnor were founded near century before that so the cities Minas Ithil Minas Anor and Osgiliath were technically build in Second Age, the realms were founded in year 3320 of the Second Age). The end of that war is also the end of Second Age. After destruction of Sauron's physical form a Third Age officially begins. I also quite like how Tolkien describes Numenor situation during Ar-Pharazon's reign in some less known texts: "From Elendil's words at the end of The Lost Road there emerges a sinister picture: the withdrawal of the besotted and aging king from the public view, the unexplained disappearance of people unpopular with the 'government', informers, prisons, torture, secrecy, fear of the night; propaganda in the form of the 'rewriting of history' (...); the multiplication of weapons of war, the purpose of which is concealed but guessed at; and behind all the dreadful figure of Sauron, the real power, surveying the whole land from the Mountain of Numenor." Naturally the Lost Road 'canonicity' is probably dubious but still it's a nice picture of how it looked like when Sauron was playing around in Numenor.
@petew.7870
@petew.7870 4 года назад
This narration and the pronunciation skills tho! Wow.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
haha thank you ^^ I think I mproved even further after this video. Also my opinions on pronunciation of names from Tolkien's universe became stronger and more consistent later on, but this one was still a very good and important video for me and my channel. So much appreciated ^^
@timbaumann9046
@timbaumann9046 4 года назад
My friend... You have done a TERRIFIC job of putting all this together for us. If you have made some minor mistakes you have still kept the story intact which by itself is a HUGE job that you have still kept all understandable AND interesting! WELL DONE INDEED!!! Thank you!!!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you ^^ This was also one of the first Tolkien lore videos I did (actually the 2nd), so it's also a special video for me. Happy you liked it so much!
@hakusuna
@hakusuna 6 лет назад
I found this guy through Men of the West's youtube channel. Very powerful lore history. I like his voice its almost as if he's a scholar from middle earth who's new to the Genre even though he's probably not, good work. I don't really give I shite if there's errors Just hearing about the marvel of the Tolkien Universe is dope, and don't let anyone call you a nerd for finding this fantasy awesome. This author was an masterfully accomplished linguist, wrote 3-4 LANGUAGES! Wrote a complete staple in literature, created the one type of storyline that everyone could enjoy weather your a reader of a movie goer or whatever, Tolkien Is their god in his universe. I am a poet, and I tip my hat to the dead man who lived waay before any of us even existed. That man is gonna go down in history as being the best writer of his age. NUFF SAID!
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 5 лет назад
Late reply but I thought the exact same thing when I watched his Rohan video. I imagined him to be a modern day scholar from modern day Rohan, giving a lecture in heavy 'Rhohirric' accented Andunaic.
@donweatherwax9318
@donweatherwax9318 3 года назад
This is my favorite video of yours that I've heard so far, because the history if Aragorn's bloodline is such a fiendishly complex subject. Nice work.
@toaderdoru4744
@toaderdoru4744 7 лет назад
Just stumbled on the channel and watched a few videos. Such a great channel, with exquisitely explained topics. Great job and keep up the good work mate!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thank you =) Much appreciated. I'll try :D
@darianle190
@darianle190 6 лет назад
Key point of the story: Be the bad guy, you can always come back...
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
:D But do not lose your rings!
@aleksander8497
@aleksander8497 6 лет назад
The bad guys lose in the end as they should
@philipbackes8696
@philipbackes8696 4 года назад
But don't bind your life force to a magic ring
@MrGodsins
@MrGodsins 4 года назад
That's what I thought when I read Silmarillion. "why cant Valar kill Sauron or Morgoth?" They have so many chances
@youknowthosedudes2583
@youknowthosedudes2583 6 лет назад
Love your content. Super educational. I'm an animator, and working while listening to you explain the lore that I simply don't have the time to study is really relaxing. Thank you!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you, happy you liked it. Yes, I can imagine, that it works quite well, listening to it in the background :D Should you ever stumble upon my Sauron video, be warned: the first part is really confusing ^^
@youknowthosedudes2583
@youknowthosedudes2583 6 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames I listened to it last night before bed, but missed a lot since I dosed off. Going to listen to it again while I work today. I'm shocked that their is so much lore, but it's super interesting!
@17wadelee
@17wadelee 7 лет назад
Thank you for the videos. You make it easy to understand. I really appreciate the work you have put into this.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
No problem. It's fun making those, even though a lot of work. Thanks, it's very nice to hear so much positive feedback =)
@lindadeal3344
@lindadeal3344 2 года назад
Thanks, you made the story understandable and enjoyable, loved the graphics!!!
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 4 года назад
Glad to see your subscriber list has grown significantly!
@danzemacabre8899
@danzemacabre8899 4 года назад
I absolutely love the rolled R's! And the pronunciations are very well thought out and elegant ,as the source material deserves, great job!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you :) Yes I think language is a big part of Tolkien's works and I can at least try to say the names right (ofc I mess up at times).
@SophiesDriver
@SophiesDriver 2 года назад
I cracked a small smile at about 27:50, when you began talking about Firiel. At 28:03, unification of the lines of kings of Arnor and Gondor, the smile started growing. Finally, when you added Finarfin a chill when through my body, almost a tear. Tolkien weaved an amazing tale of an amazing world, didn't he?! This video summarizes the relationship of Aragorn II to Minas Ithil, to Numenor brilliantly!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 2 года назад
Thank you! Much appreciated :) Yes he really created an amazing world with so much depth. You can almost always ask: "Who is this and what did he do?", and you find mind blowing answers.
@justinvanheerde4338
@justinvanheerde4338 2 года назад
What a video! Thank you so much for this!
@kenyafiona
@kenyafiona 4 года назад
finally RU-vid recommends something I genuinely like. so happy I stumbled across this channel
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
haha yes at times RU-vid recommendations are quite bad. Happy you found your way to my channel ^^
@Filthy-Peasant
@Filthy-Peasant 6 лет назад
dude...i dont even know where to begin to thank you :D at the start? the middle? the end? so much information and ´´oh, so thats why´´ moments :D rly awesome, thx a lot
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :) I really wanted to bring those aha moments to the viewer, so I'm happy to hear, that it worked out ^^
@kylem3985
@kylem3985 4 года назад
Been watching a lot of your videos recently. Thank you for the massive research you must have done to produce these videos. Top notch! New sub added!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Happy you like my stuff and thank you :) Yes really a lot of time goes into the research of a topic (it's also my favourite part of making videos; editing is also fun), so much appreciated! PS: and welcome ^^
@masterranger167
@masterranger167 7 лет назад
This video surpassed all excellence. The pronunciation of names and places is fantastic, and all the history is laid in order perfectly. If Christopher Tolkien ever saw this, I think he would be as pleased as I am to have seen it.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Wow, that's a compliment =) Thank you. I'm happy you liked it. I put some work into getting the pronunciation right for the most part, so it's nice to hear that people like it.
@Guyfrom165
@Guyfrom165 7 лет назад
a very good job! keep the lotr lore coming! cheers from sweden
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thank you. I never would have thought, that people love Lord of the Rings lore videos that much :D Took me totally by surprise. Just thought: hmm a Shadow of Mordor successor announced, maybe make a video about the lore from the books perspective. And suddenly 19000 views O.O It's just crazy for me.
@Guyfrom165
@Guyfrom165 7 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames haha yeah. i hope you will keep doing videos about lotr. Will you cover shadow of war when it comes out?
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Yes, I will try doing more LotR videos. A little problem is, that they are often a lot of work and need tons of research. So I have to find a balance, because I enjoy making other gaming related content too. But there will be more. Maybe if new details about Shadow of War will be released, I find a new topic. Yes, I think I will most likely cover Shadow of War. But no promise :D
@Guyfrom165
@Guyfrom165 7 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames okay i see. I will stay tuned and hope more :D nice! I loved the first game and will play shadow of war aswell, but im so bad at those kind of games i will need all the tips and help i can find and watching you might help me to not suck at this one haha
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
haha Well I like making guides for Dark Souls, so why not make something similar for Shadow of War :D
@prakashkumarkarunakaran1683
@prakashkumarkarunakaran1683 2 года назад
Its a wonder how one man could spin a world of such epic dimensions and connect them in such an extraordinary way across thousands of years. This narrative really helps to shed some light into this incredible universe. Thank you.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 2 года назад
Yes I agree. It's really mind blowing how much detail there is. I look into Tolkien's writings almost every day in some way due to having a Tolkien related YT channel and I still notice details I have not noticed before. Also thank you for your comment ^^ This was also one of my first lore videos, nice to see that people still enjoy my old content though I learnt a lot over the years and today I would probably make an even more detailed video 😅
@waterchild_2310
@waterchild_2310 5 лет назад
Wow thank you for breaking down all this information!! Very interesting!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
No problem, happy you liked :)
@mmsclone2923
@mmsclone2923 3 года назад
love these videos they are informative and great to listen to. thanks
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
Thank you, happy you enjoy my videos :)
@kevinfelix2543
@kevinfelix2543 7 лет назад
awesome video man , i love hearing the back story :)
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thank you! Yes, the backstory of Lord of the Rings is awesome.
@LeeMitchellAcoustic
@LeeMitchellAcoustic 6 лет назад
Probably why Tolkien's work is almost so, so incredible..."Tall ships and tall kings three times three....what brought they from the founded lands over the flowing sea....seven stones and seven stars and one white tree...Something like that. Probably another reason why it is supposedly written in elevated syntax,
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Yes agreed. Tolkien's world is so rich and well written, it never stops to amaze me :)
@Molly-kittiwisk
@Molly-kittiwisk 4 года назад
I think your pronunciation and knowledge is admirable. Your accent is charming and adds to the video if you ask me :) great content! Thanks for your hard work putting these together
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
haha happy you like the accent and me trying to pronounce name somewhat correct ^^ (not all people do) Thank you, much appreciated!
@omulu4007
@omulu4007 5 лет назад
Amazing work!!!! VERY 👍 well done
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@rAAAnciiid
@rAAAnciiid 6 лет назад
Good job! I really enjoy your videos dude!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@spellbindinglunacy99
@spellbindinglunacy99 4 года назад
Stop rushing!!! I love your work, it's more than worth the wait! LOVE long vids! Stop apologizing!!!!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you :) Sadly RU-vid knows no mercy, when you want your channel to grow xD I think I stopped apologizing in later videos, but early on I was very nervous, how people would like my stuff and I got suddenly a lot of views, even though my channel was very small.
@phoule76
@phoule76 5 лет назад
thanks for this video; I particularly needed to see the lineages to make the link between the Silmarilion stories and the 3rd Age. It's also nice to learn that Isildur was a sneaky gardener before being corrupted; most of us only know him for the latter trait. (p.s., "built", not "builded")
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
No problem :) Yes some details can easily get lost. E.g. I learned quite a bit, by editing my videos and marking the events on the map, so I got a really good understanding where things happened. Same with lineages. I hope that i can transport that in my videos too. haha yes I know. Several people hinted me that it's "built" :D Interestingly someone also wrote, that originally the past form was "builded", but it changed over time to "built". Still thanks for the hint. Sometimes I don't notice little mistakes like this, because I'm too focused on other things ^^
@KenDelloSandro7565
@KenDelloSandro7565 6 лет назад
Great stuff, keep them coming.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :) There will be more ^^
@PleaseNThankYou
@PleaseNThankYou 4 года назад
Thank you for all your hard work.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
haha no problem ^^ happy you and also a lot of other people enjoy my work :) I would not have thought that, when I started.
@jonmanriquez310
@jonmanriquez310 2 года назад
“And I think you can find his skull in shadow of Mordor” 2:24 Idk why but this made me spit up my horchata🤣
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 2 года назад
sorry 😄
@tylerbarrett6652
@tylerbarrett6652 3 года назад
I love your presentations... thank you for taking the time to record and upload them. One thing I thought you might have missed (not at the end yet) is that initially women were passed over for the monarchy on Numenore... at some point this changed and the women could step up if they desired it. Aragorn is the descendant of the first child, a daughter of Elros I think, who did not have the opportunity to claim the monarchy. So had they been about equal rights, Aragorn would actually be the rightful King of all the Numenorians.
@RCT2germany
@RCT2germany 4 года назад
Krass wie sehr sich deine englische Aussprache in den letzten Jahren verbessert hat. (Hab zuerst ein paar deiner neueren Videos gesehen) Fetter Daumen hoch dafür alleine.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Danke ^^ Yes I feel like I improved a lot over the years in so many areas. This was one of my first lore videos. Even though I still think it's a really good video, but I came a long way :)
@aidtry182
@aidtry182 6 лет назад
Well done man, that explains a lot!!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@milvache
@milvache 6 лет назад
I love this lore about Aragorn and his bloodline
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Agreed it's really interesting. One of my favorite stories is the Fall of Númenor :)
@regisnewgate
@regisnewgate 6 лет назад
Awesome my friend, so interesting!!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@snigdhaphatak6191
@snigdhaphatak6191 3 года назад
Amazing narration. Really loved watching this video and finding out more about LOTR lore. I've read the original trilogy and watched the extended versions of the movie. This video really gave me more idea about LOTR. Looking forward to watch more of your videos.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
Thank you! This was one of my first lore videos, I guess I improved in some areas over time (of making videos), but it's still oneI really like ^^ Happy you enjoyed it :)
@germaineboatwala-sidhva1079
@germaineboatwala-sidhva1079 6 лет назад
That was complex but very interesting and well presented . I should read those other History books behind the lotr books! Thanks!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@frankcairney5523
@frankcairney5523 6 лет назад
I'm a total Tolkien geek (I GM Middle Earth Role Playing) and I've really enjoyed your videos. Your research is excellent and your attention to detail leaves me in the dust. Thanks for providing great lore and entertainment.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :) So much time goes into research, when I make those videos, so that's a huge compliment for me! Happy you enjoyed it. Also thank you for commenting and watching ^^
@frankcairney5523
@frankcairney5523 6 лет назад
No problem. In one of your videos you mention Glorfindel as reincarnated from Gondolin. I totally agree. I also have also reckoned that Legolas is reincarnated from "Legolas Greenleaf of the House of the Tree" who died in the retreat from Gondolin (think he killed a balrog, don't remember). Gandalf calls Legolas "Legolas Greenleaf" which is what makes me think this. You have any thoughts on that? I'd be interested to see what you think.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
I think Glorfindel was originally planned to take the role of Legolas, but Tolkien invented Legolas instead. I don't know if there was a connection planned, but Glorfindel also fought in Gondolin. From the perspective of published version they can't be related or the same person, because Thranduil (Legolas' father) was born at the end of the First Age or even in the Second Age. He is quite "young" so to say. It's extremely likely, that his son Legolas from Lord of the Rings was born in the Second Age or even in the Third Age, so it would not fit. However in theory it is possible, since to my knowledge there are only indicators and theories, but no given birth dates of Thranduil and Legolas, but as said it seems unlikely.
@frankcairney5523
@frankcairney5523 6 лет назад
Yeah, I only thought they might be the same in a reincarnation sense. Pure speculation on my part but as you say, very unlikely. Thanks for replying. BTW I didn't know that Glorfindel was supposed to be Legolas. that's pretty interesting. I always felt that Glorfindel was a bit underused in the books but now I see why, and Legolas is a brilliant character.
@IamDerick
@IamDerick 3 года назад
Great video! Thanks.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
Thank you too, happy you liked it :) Merry Christmas!
@christonngoveni8438
@christonngoveni8438 3 года назад
Your narrating voice and pronunciation gives more value to this stories. Hoping to finish them soon. But a Series from 1st Age to 3rd Age would really be great and make lots of money
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
Sorry for the late answer. Thank you ^^ Yes I hope to finish the books/film series too, but it will take a ton of time. A similar series for all the Ages would be massive in that grade of detail. I think I can only provide videos on selected topics of these times.
@ingwerschwensen8115
@ingwerschwensen8115 6 лет назад
Very good! Liked your video very much (just like the one about Rohan). Hope you'll continue these Tolkien Lore videos. Thanks.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :) Happy you liked it. I have to say this is my favorite lore video so far ^^ I will make more. But I hope the next is shorter than the Sauron video :P (that was a difficult video)
@Bright_Lord007
@Bright_Lord007 6 лет назад
Great job brother, you explain nicely
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you, happy you like it :)
@zachlawrence6844
@zachlawrence6844 4 года назад
Crazy interesting. Good explanation.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you, happy you liked it :)
@bernardjimenez6254
@bernardjimenez6254 4 года назад
Goosebumps :(( i dont wish for the movie itself but it would be amazing if it would be played just like the trilogy of lotr with very minima of cut scenes .. Damn youre so lit man kudos !
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you ^^
@jcemd
@jcemd 4 года назад
thank you! So nice!
@estebandavidyepezpasquel3098
@estebandavidyepezpasquel3098 3 года назад
You are amazing tyvm for your hard work!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
No problem, happy you enjoy the content. Thank you too! :)
@estebandavidyepezpasquel3098
@estebandavidyepezpasquel3098 3 года назад
ThePhilosophersGames not only have I enjoyed it. It has been of incredible help for a project I am currently writing for. And as I re-read the Silmarillion this channel has honestly been critical in my newly grown understanding of it. I sincerely don’t know how to tell you how much I have appreciated your content since I have dreamed of these myths since I has 9yo. Keep it up, I’ll be waiting for your content :)
@El_Cid13
@El_Cid13 6 лет назад
Dude. No BS. Good job! Keep up the good work!👍👍👍
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you. I'll try :)
@hossman7432
@hossman7432 6 лет назад
Long winded. Great job , reminds me of when I read the silmarillion, just trying to follow was a fun challenge.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :D Yes with so many names and events, it can become really difficult to follow. Need to find a way to make it a bit easier.
@GreatGreebo
@GreatGreebo 3 года назад
Love your videos!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
Happy you like them ^^
@OneWorldHistory
@OneWorldHistory 6 лет назад
Nice job! What is truly astonishing and heart-rending is that the entire history of Tolkien's universe, including even his own gravestone, is this massive tale of good and evil, eventual 'victory' and heavy loss. Google his and his beloved wife Edith's grave, and it makes you weep.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Yes it it :) He was extremely dedicated, but also his son Christopher Tolkien put so much into it.
@bauchbart
@bauchbart 5 лет назад
What an awesome video!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you, glad you liked it :)
@kevinfelix2543
@kevinfelix2543 4 года назад
awesome video man:) thank you.. so funny I didn't realize I commented before on this video the first time saw it , this is my second time and of course i had the same reaction eh
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you, happy you liked it :)
@jonathankyle1851
@jonathankyle1851 7 лет назад
Great job! I have read all of these works several times, and cannot find anything I disagree with.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Happy to hear. Then I did my research right :) Thank you!
@jonathankyle1851
@jonathankyle1851 7 лет назад
Only one comment on one of the SoM/SoW videos. I agree Celebrimbor should be in HoM. There is one case in Silmarillion when Beren's companions are killed in a terrible way, and one of them appears to Beren as a wraith before he travels south to find Luthien. It would seem that men very rarely are not able to pass beyond the world in some extremely rare and fell cases. This would leave a possibility for Talion to be wraith while, but not for Celebrimbor to be called back from HoM by the servants of Sauron
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Oh yes, Barahir's (and Beren's) companion Gorlim. I mention the story in my new "Who is Sauron?" video and I think in Shadow of Mordor you can find a skull, that references him. This would in deed be a possibility. But I think you could still argue, that Gorlim betrayed Barahir knowingly to Sauron ( and with this helping him), while Talion and Celebrimbor are actively opposing Sauron. Gorlim tried to warn Beren out of regret. Maybe he did not go to the Halls of Mandos, because of his regret and trying to warn Beren. It's definitely a strange and grim story, that is also very interesting. Good point!
@jonathankyle1851
@jonathankyle1851 7 лет назад
Thank you! Excellent conversation. You are indeed a Tolkien Lore master. Would like to see you up against Stephen Colbert;)
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you too :) So nice to have so many good comments here. haha I think I can learn a thing or two from Stephen Colbert ^^
@elias9746
@elias9746 7 лет назад
I also read the lotr serries (well most of it) ;) and this fills in a lot of gaps and questions that I had thanks!!!!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thank you =) Nice to hear, that it helped you.
@kuromomutaro
@kuromomutaro 6 лет назад
Deserves more subs than any other tolkien novel story teller..
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :P
@pamrichards8070
@pamrichards8070 4 года назад
Great video!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you :)
@drfranklippenheimer8743
@drfranklippenheimer8743 6 лет назад
Good stuff, Maynard. :-D
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :P
@Jeffrikszgaming
@Jeffrikszgaming 7 лет назад
awesome video bro! I've shared them on my pages on! :D :)
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thank you =)
@Jeffrikszgaming
@Jeffrikszgaming 7 лет назад
If there are vids that need to be shared let me know! :)
@EnlightenedTurtle
@EnlightenedTurtle 6 лет назад
Good Video mate.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@cameronfeucht2881
@cameronfeucht2881 5 лет назад
great video!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@HelloImCrimson
@HelloImCrimson 6 лет назад
This is so damn detailed. I love it
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thanks :) I really tried to include almost every detail, but some parts are probably still a bit imprecise :D Tolkien definitely had an eye for details. It's mind blowing.
@HelloImCrimson
@HelloImCrimson 6 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames One of your vids randomly appeared a few days ago, and I was so impressed that I couldn't stop watching for a few hours. This is really some damn detailed work. Thank You for the videos
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
That's nice to hear :D Yes it seems they work quite well with the YT algorithm, because I have far more views, than subscribers. But I won't complain ^^ The success also caught me by surprise to be honest. PS: haha no problem :) I like making them
@anettehergl5519
@anettehergl5519 6 лет назад
I found your channel while watching the appendices of lotr. Really, really good work! And reading the comments I discovered why your accent not only sounds perfectly elvish and old english but has, to me, a very familiar sound too..wirklich gut gemacht, ein Abonnent mehr..hab das als Wink mit dem Zaunpfahl verstanden :-))
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Danke :P Happy you liked it :)
@mikegagne3263
@mikegagne3263 6 лет назад
So happy to get a response at all let alone so quickly. Yeah, Celeborn fits in there somewhere, but Tolkien never seems to have decided if Celeborn was a Teleri who crossed the Helcaraxe with Galadriel or if he was an elf of Doriath. Either way he was related to Galadriel, I just wasn't sure what the relationship might be. Thanks for your research.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Yes, I red somewhere, that he never really decided and changed things here and there. A bit similar with Gil-galad. No problem, thank you for commenting ^^
@chefitaly7339
@chefitaly7339 3 года назад
Good one man
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
Thank you ^^
@johncook3125
@johncook3125 5 лет назад
Thanks i think it is starting to make some sense even though I have read most of the books some of them several times.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Happy to hear :) Yes the lore is often overwhelming. Bringing everything into an order is really difficult. Structuring my videos is a part that eats a lot of time when making the videos, so I totally understand what you mean. Thank you for commenting too ^^
@pjwhite1002
@pjwhite1002 5 лет назад
I agree with you, John. I've read the books numerous times, just for the pleasure of the story, not getting too much into the rest. However, over the years I've, of course, had a few questions about various aspects ;-), just a few, which are getting answered in these amazing, in-depth videos of true-blue LotR scholarly fans! I had a very hard time with The Silmarillion back when it was first available and haven't attempted it again, but I will soon, as well as the other books on Middle Earth from the Tolkeins. I'm almost embarrassed and ashamed to say I haven't read those yet because I Love the stories sooo much from the very first reading of The Hobbit in 1971! Loved the movies, but I was annoyed with some of the changes that were made that were totally unnecessary, even for the sake of drama, but the films were amazing and well-done on so many levels. Just watched all of The Hobbit movies this past week for the first time, too. Wish I'd seen them in the theater (hopefully, they'll have another run some day). A lot of what went on were not in the books, and at least the story of Azog being hot for Thorin's head actually did add a dramatic twist though it wasn't in the book. The little love story between Kili and Tauriel, though, could've been left out, I think, though it's nice to have a little romance in a movie, but Not Here. Tolkein did not write romances, and Peter Jackson took too much liberty with that part, I think. Arwen and Aragorn were one thing, we knew they Loved each other so was fitting to elaborate on that. But Kili and Tauriel's romance is too much (there was no Tauriel in The Hobbit at all, if I remember right, so where did she come from? PJ's mind, apparently). Just MHO. Thanks so much to ThePhilosophersGames for making these wonderful videos for us! You are doing an amazing job, please don't stop! :-D
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
​@@pjwhite1002 Thank you, happy you like them :) You remember correctly. Tauriel was made up for the Hobbit movies and I really agree, it was not needed at all. Also the Azog twist worked well in the films in my opinion too (at least I can understand the change). I have my problems with the Hobbit trilogy, but I must say the Extended Edition adds some nice things and fill some wholes. The Simarillion is tough to read, even though it's really interesting and has some amazing stories in it, so I fully understand you ^^ Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@mothersmilkltd4329
@mothersmilkltd4329 6 лет назад
Increíble. Muy buen trabajo. Gracias por juntar estos pedazos de fantasía y reunirlos para el disfrute ajeno.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :) (I had to google translate, but I understood it partially, because I had Latin in school :D) Sadly I don't speak Spanish and co. I always wanted to learn it (and Japanese), but never did =/
@mothersmilkltd4329
@mothersmilkltd4329 6 лет назад
You are welcome. Try it. Spanish is ideal for the pronunciation of the /rr/ in the Tolkien languages. ;)
@mothersmilkltd4329
@mothersmilkltd4329 6 лет назад
By the way. If you want to train the ear while you listen to the stories of Tolkien, I leave you a program of audio-reports that treat the work of the Master from time to time. www.ivoox.com/ainulindale-j-r-r-tolkien-audios-mp3_rf_4606955_1.html www.ivoox.com/valaquenta-j-r-r-tolkien-audios-mp3_rf_11286313_1.html A strong greeting and that you continue with your excellent work for a long time.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Agreed! Also thank you again. I'll for sure continue :) Yes it's never to late to learn a language ^^ I'll try it one day. haha that's cool, I'll bookmark them :D
@_JesusIsLord_
@_JesusIsLord_ 6 лет назад
Nice vid. Subbed
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :D
@user-jo6rj2zi1g
@user-jo6rj2zi1g 7 лет назад
Impressive!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thank you :D
@GaryWNorman
@GaryWNorman 5 лет назад
Very enjoyable 😃
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@KillerBeastHeadshotman
@KillerBeastHeadshotman 6 лет назад
Now everything make sense
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Good ^^
@filipborelli3193
@filipborelli3193 5 лет назад
Fascinating!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you :) Star Trek fan? ^^
@Laurynassi
@Laurynassi 6 лет назад
Nice video. I've listened to the Silimarion audio-book and I have to say, you pronounce the names the way the narrator did.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Well then I did my job right, Thank you :)
@janeriellerebenito6989
@janeriellerebenito6989 6 лет назад
not boring at all, I absolutely understand the lore of aragorn II nc Video
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you, happy you enjoyed it :)
@SamCork1
@SamCork1 4 года назад
Mate, I’m English. Your English is perfect and pronunciation is perfect. If people dislike your videos because of your accent they aren’t worth your pipe smoke.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you, much appreciated :) I guess most people dislike the rolled Rs. Some dislike my accent as well, but I get that very rare.
@SamCork1
@SamCork1 4 года назад
Haha no worries keep up the good work!
@anthonypeltier4039
@anthonypeltier4039 5 лет назад
Amazing!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@fanman8102
@fanman8102 6 лет назад
Excellent!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@TheWalkingdude69
@TheWalkingdude69 6 лет назад
This is really good work..! Excellent..! I commend you on your efforts and offer my respect and admiration. I am myself quite crazy about the LOTR saga and all things connected, so I can appreciate to some extent, the very substantial amount of work you must have had to lay down in the production of your videos. I know I would not have been able to do it better. You have done great. Thank you very much for doing this. I for one am very glad of it. Now, on another tip - what's with this whining from some of you about the dude's pronounciation and the way he rolls the r's..? I mean, for one thing he explains that in several vids - he is trying to stay true to how he has understood the way Tolkien himself says to pronounce names. Give the man a break. This is not his first language and you can hear that he struggles a little with certain tongue twists. I feel that these things rather underscore the quality of the effort laid down in the making of these vids..! It does no harm to be a bit appreciative of someone else's hard work, especially when it is done as a service to you.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you, much appreciated :) Yes, "tongue twists" is a very good description of my struggles ^^ E.g. switching between the English "s" and "th" sounds is so difficult for me. Happily he majority of people is really supportive and friendly in my comment section here and I'm very thankful for that. I've seen far far worse comment sections on YT. Happy you enjoyed my content!
@donnawellington1156
@donnawellington1156 4 года назад
Your voice and pronunciation is stunning. 🙏🙏🙏
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you, happy you like that part of my videos ^^
@af049486
@af049486 6 лет назад
Very nice
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 6 лет назад
Thank you :)
@grantaum9677
@grantaum9677 5 лет назад
Awesome 🕉
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@biedimagbopepple30
@biedimagbopepple30 4 года назад
Awesome
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you :)
@stizelswik3694
@stizelswik3694 Год назад
wow... do you play the game Lord Of The Rings Online? You have given me an understanding of many of the npc! Thank you! I've seen all the movies, and read LOTR several times, but, again, your video gave me a better view of it all. Thank you!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames Год назад
I play all kinds of games, but never was into MMO RPGs. Not my genre. I played LotR Online for an hour or so, but could never really get into it. Thank you, glad my video was helpful ^^ I can recommend checking out some of my newer lore videos, as the quality went up over time in my opinion. Though maybe I lose myself in details too much these days.
@neebatron
@neebatron 4 года назад
Morgoth also had the majority of men on his side “and the elves do not forget it”.. indeed only the elves were “united”, as a race, against the dark foe and his allies. I know that’s not what you meant by using that term, but for some reason I’m compelled to add that clarification.
@zeynepsahin6564
@zeynepsahin6564 7 лет назад
It would be awesome for you to do some Middle Earth related gameplay (with rich commentary like this video!) Again, amaaaaaaazing video!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 7 лет назад
Thanks again :D I thought about this before. But in-depth commentary can be very time consuming in long videos and I'm not good at live production - esp. in English. So playing and commenting at the same time is difficult for me. Maybe I practice a bit at some point or do post commentary. It would need some experimentation. So it won't happen any time soon, sry
@zeynepsahin6564
@zeynepsahin6564 7 лет назад
I see your point. Whenever you feel like it, i just thought it would be amazing. Just an idea :) Aaaaand i think (even though im no native speaker) your English is amazing. It's perfect :)
@JavierRamos-uy5tt
@JavierRamos-uy5tt 6 лет назад
ThePhilosophersGames that's a good fucken idea. I'd love to see a gameplay with someone that actually knows what the hell is going on in the game and where it's situated
@elias9746
@elias9746 7 лет назад
boring this was soooooooo interesting thank you so much I am still reading the silmarillion and this helps me learn so much
@thegavin000
@thegavin000 3 года назад
I'm still confused but happy.
@saraheschweiler4939
@saraheschweiler4939 3 года назад
@ThePhilosophersGame, thank you for another superb LOTR exploration/explanation. 🙂🌿🌻🌿🙏🌿🌻🌿😊 Please, could you explain more about who the Witch King of Angmar is? Is that Sauron in another form, by another name? Or is the Witch King a different character entirely, & if so, who is he? Where is he from? What's his back-story, please? This character is quite a mystery to me! Thank you again for this deeply researched video about Aragorn & his forebears--I watched it twice today! 🙂🌿🌷🌿💚🌿🌷🌿😊
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
no problem. This was one of my first lore videos I made 4 years ago; time moves fast 😅 Happy you liked it. I have neglected the Nazgûl a bit on my channel. I briefly talk about them in my very detailed book analysis (also book and film differences) series: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qe-4l74B8mw.html You maybe have to look out for Nazgûl in the title (episodes work mostly as stand alones I think). To answer your question briefly: We don't know exactly who the Witchking is. Sauron (after he got most the Rings of Power back) gave 9 Rings to lords of Men (from Númenor and maybe one was a King of the Easterlings, but definitely an Easterling), and they got power through the rings too. Over time though they were slowly transformed into Wraith (Ringwraith -> Nazgûl) under the will of Sauron and the One Ring (int his form they are 100% under Sauron's will; they are undead ghosts you could say, that mostly exist in the Unseen). We know only the name of one of them Khamûl (also "the Black Easterling"). He must have been an Easterling (maybe a king). The others (three according to the Silamrillion) were likely Númenoreans that resided at Númenorean settlements on Middle-earth (Númenor is an Island where the Dúnedain lived once; they were pretty advanced and it can be compared to Atlantis). They first appeared Second Age 2251 (according to Appendix B in The Lord of the Rings; so roughly 3200 years before the events of LotR). As mentioned only 3 were Númenoreans + at least one Easterling. The remaining 5 could be other lords of Men maybe from the South (Haradrim) or even North (Northmen) or more Easterlings. We don't know. Khamûl was among the Ringwraiths 2nd in command. 1st was the Witchking. Who he was we don't know, but most likely a Númenorean from one of the mentioned settlements. The Númenoreans were later separated into 2 factions you could say: The King's Men and the Faithful. The Faithful were as the name suggests faithful to Eru (God) and his High Powers in Aman (Valar) (also friends of the Elves). The King's Men were on the side of the Númenoeran Kings, which over time more and more opposed Eru, the Valar and the Elves, because they were jealous of their immortality (and other things), though traditionally (at the beginning of Númenor's history) Númenor was devoted to Eru and the Valar and close friends with Elves, which helped them develop. (as explained in this video). It's now likely that the Witchking and the other who could have been Númenoran lords were Kings' Men too. We don't know. Later when Sauron was defeated at the End of the Second Age (through the Last Alliances) and fled into the far East, the Witchking became active at one point and took himself a realm North of Arnor (which split into 3 separate Kingdoms), which was called Angmar. Angmar assimilated one of them (Rhudaur you can find it on maps) and it basically became part of Angmar too if you want. In the end Arnor was destroyed, but Angmar too. And from this time the Witchking becme the Witchking of Angmar. His name and deeds suggests, that he had some powers (through the Ring of power and Sauron). E.g. he summoned the Barrow wights (weird evil spirits) to infest the Barrow downs, where some of the remainign Lords of Cardolan (once Arnor) hid and with this destroyed Cardolan completely. He appears of here and there again. he later conquers Minas Ithil for Sauron, which ten became Minas Morgul and he most likely killed the last King of Gondor Eärnur (challenged him to a duel and the King was never seen again). Ofc he was active during The Lord of the Rings too, etc. But that is all we know. I don't have a good theory who he might have been. He was definitely not a name we know from the lore in my opinion. Some lord maybe from Umbar (far to the south of Gondor).
@saraheschweiler4939
@saraheschweiler4939 3 года назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames , oh my goodness, wow! Thank you bunches for taking the time to write back with such a thoughtful, thorough reply! Your kindness is much appreciated, along with your helpful insights. Many, many thanks! 🙏🌿🌷🌿😊💚😘🌿🌷🌿🙏
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 3 года назад
haha no problem ^^ I really like answering questions, but ofc longer answers can eat some time ^^ Hint because I did not state that 100% correctly. Only three of the nine Nazgûl are mentioned to be Númenóreans. So the 5 others could be haradrim (men from the far South), Northmen, maybe additional Easterlings, etc. (I have corrected this in the longer answer above)
@beansprout_apg886
@beansprout_apg886 4 года назад
I need to rewatch this many times before I remember his bloodline....
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
haha yes. Took me a time too to memorize some of the bloodlines (at least in parts).
@beansprout_apg886
@beansprout_apg886 4 года назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames So you read all the other books of Tolkien? I binge watch the Hobbit and LODR last weekend again, and I have a chat of my co workers who's a fan also and told me that there are many branch of the back story of that franchise so I started to research and saw your channel. Sadly most of his books weren't finish because it was not that famous in his time...
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Yes at some point I red most of them. Some I read more often than others though and because it's so much I also forget details quite often again. Yes I can imagine. The later books (by Tolkien's son Christopher, who published his father drafts and notes in them) are not that well known and can be tough to read, if you don't know the main books (Hobbit, LotR + Appendices and The Silmarillion). The Silmarillion (LotR backstory the book) was also published posthumously by Christopher Tolkien, who basically composed it out of his fathers works too and finalized it. It should be available in all kinds of languages (I assume third most popular book). How canon it is, is often debated under Tolkien fans. Same goes for all the published notes. But with all of it, there is a ton of backstory. Translations of the 12 (13) History of Middle-earth books, Unfinished Tales, Letters, Great Tales etc are probably far more limited. I think only two of the 12 History of Middle-earth books even have e.g. a German translation. I have a lot of stuff on my channel, but the information density can be very high (e.g. the Who is Sauron or the History of the Elves videos; those cover basically all ages a a lot of lore in case you are interested).
@beansprout_apg886
@beansprout_apg886 4 года назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames I started to explore your channel and it was a long journey for me. Definitely watch all your videos(already subscribed:) ) whenever I have a time and started to search where I can buy Tolkiens books. So basically it is better to start to read The hobbit or can I jump to LOTR instantly? Kindly recommend me the chronological order of the books.:) Definitely wanted to know the story of Luthein and Beren. That would be interesting. ;) Tolkiens universe were amazing.yup. it really took a lot of time just to put it piece by piece..Thank God there's no technology in that time and they have more time to explore their imagination :)... I also red that he was a friend or acquaintance of Lewis who's the creator or Narnia... That's why it felt like even a little, they have the same feels.. Imagine all the great authors were gathered and discussing their universe in a long porch while having a tea or something...
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Thank you :) Definitely start with Hobbit and LotR (+ Appendices at least Appendix A and B). The Silmarillion can be tough to read, it's a bit like the bible, but you need to know LotR to really understand the Silmarillion. The backstory of it gives LotR a lot more depth. After That I would say Unfinished Tales (and maybe the Great Tales), Letters of Tolkien, maybe Tolkien's LotR related poetry and the History of Middle-earth books last. This video goes into a bit more detail for the reading order: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lEwqWn6ftYQ.html
@arunoamuri9893
@arunoamuri9893 4 года назад
Thanks ! IIRC the «faithful» were called elendili
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 4 года назад
Yes you are right, the name Elendil can both mean "Star-lover" and "Elf-friend" in Quenya.
@simonmorris4226
@simonmorris4226 3 года назад
A direct descendent of Malian the Maia, Elwe Singollo of Doriath, Beren Erchamion, Elwing, Earendel, Elendil and his children. Blood will out!⚔️
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