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The Longest Game of Diplomacy Ever Played | 1931 - 1940 

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CaptainMeme and Ezio continue their commentary of the 2012 webDiplomacy World Cup Final (Public Press), the longest game of Diplomacy ever played. In this video, they cover the events between Spring, 1931 and Winter, 1940.
Diplomacy is a negotiation-based board game set during World War One. 7 players each control one great power (England, France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Russia, and Turkey) and fight for control of Europe, using their diplomatic skill to make covert deals with one another and to backstab their friends.

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@annayosh
@annayosh 3 года назад
Because of your comments about the French fleet that had been in Syria (which indeed is currently in Yorkshire), I decided to make a list of the movements of all units in this game, and here are some results: * There are 2 units that have been disbanded without ever moving, an Austrian army in Vienna and one in Trieste * The unit that moved the most is the French fleet in Clyde. It has moved 31 times. It was built in Brest, and has been as far as Barents Sea and Eastern Mediterranean. * The most moved army is the Russian one in Rumania. It started life in St Petersburg, made 28 moves and has been to Bohemia and Serbia. * Italy's moving back and forth has caused fleet Apulia to have made 24 moves yet only been in 8 territories. It has moved into Naples 6 times, 4 times from Rome and twice from Apulia. * The most moved unit that isn't on the board any more are the German starting fleet, which made 24 moves in the Baltic and the North Sea areas, finally being disbanded in the Baltic Sea, and a Russian army that started in St Petersburg and was disbanded in Budapest after having visited such places as Norway and Tyrolia.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
This is fantastic, thank you! We were so focused on F Syr that we never thought to look at where the Eastern Med ended up.
@annayosh
@annayosh 3 года назад
@@DiploStrats Its complete voyage upto now: Brest - English Channel - Irish Sea - North Atlantic - Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea - North Atlantic - Mid Atlantic - Western Med - Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples - Ionian Sea - Eastern Med - Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon - Piedmont - Gulf of Lyon - Western Med - Spain (sc) - Mid Atlantic - North Atlantic - Liverpool - Wales - London - North Sea - Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea - North Atlantic - Clyde
@JECE
@JECE 3 года назад
You guys almost nailed it on when the French player was replaced. At some point between Spring 1938 and Spring 1939, TBroadley was replaced by a teammate, who we are pretty sure was Lando Calrissian.
@Domitian81
@Domitian81 Месяц назад
I know this is an old series, but I'd love to imagine the people in the provinces just having a whole host of flags stashed away and changing them out every few years or so depending on who took over. I also like imagining new draftees having joined the army with their grandads who haven't seen home in 40 years now
@KingoftheWelsh
@KingoftheWelsh Месяц назад
I realize this is an older series, but wanted to leave a comment in support of the existence of Diplomacy on YT. Great analysis, interesting stuff, cant wait to see it drag on for 60 more years
@ouma53
@ouma53 Месяц назад
I'm here too! Great stuff
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman 3 года назад
I am a person two hours into the fourth episode of the longest game ever marathon who hadn't heard of the convoy paradox before, Ezio. Consuming unreasonable amounts of content for games I don't even understand that well is my proudest hobby.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
I'm glad you're enjoying it! And I spend far too much of my free time binging speedrunning content for games I've never heard of, so I relate to this on a personal level :D
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman 3 года назад
@@DiploStrats I'll raise you to spending 12 hours trying to sequence break a shitty 10 minute game, then never speedrunning it anyways.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
@@AnglosArentHuman Ahahaha, I think you win this one :D
@lythd
@lythd Месяц назад
much later, but yes same
@Averystrange
@Averystrange 3 года назад
"I think people who are at part 4 of the longest game there's ever been have seen the convoy paradox before" nope! Been learning everything watching this series. Never seen diplomacy before, but this and your commentary has been fascinating.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
I'm really glad you're enjoying it! We never really expected people who hadn't played the game to be watching this, but we're very happy it's gotten out there. Diplomacy is an incredible game!
@Pyronaut_
@Pyronaut_ Месяц назад
Coming in 3 years later to be added to the group of people who heard about the Convoy paradox for the first time here. Granted you probably also didn’t expect someone to be watching this after previously only seeing 3 games of Diplomacy. Watched Valefisk’s two videos playing it, then watched your analysis of his more recent video, then watched your analysis of a Chaos variant game, and now I’m here. Makes for nice background discussion while I’m working.
@tasnica2438
@tasnica2438 3 года назад
You are correct that Italy was playing for California! There were actually two separate California teams during the 2012 World Cup, "California A" and "California B". California B was eliminated during an earlier stage of the tournament, while California A consisted of Mujus, myself, and several others (one of whom will play a big role in this game later on). Funnily enough, I live in the Pacific Northwest now, so had this tournament started later I might very well have been on Turkey's team instead!
@BS-bd4xo
@BS-bd4xo Месяц назад
It got interesting for a moment, but then everyone went back to the usual "everyone attacks the strongest player untill someone else is the strongest player".
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats Месяц назад
That's why this game goes on so long! :D
@dominichelgoth8181
@dominichelgoth8181 2 года назад
So this is when everyone gets to start using airplanes right/J
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
We're back with part 4! Completely unrelated to this series, but if you haven't - go check out the Diplomacy Broadcast Network. They put out consistently amazing Diplomacy content, and their most recent stream in particular was amazing (not just saying that because I was in the game they covered!). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CfZkb_IhryA.html
@gabrielknight9336
@gabrielknight9336 3 года назад
Always good to see one of these being uploaded!!!
@Shannon_Lynch
@Shannon_Lynch 3 года назад
The spring 1936 moves definitely are not the convoy paradox
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
Yeah, I think I half-realised that partway through talking about it but kept going anyway. Convoy paradox would actually be if Swe was trying to support hold Bal, and Den was supporting Bot-Bal (although some rejigging of unit ownership would also be needed). I'm just going to go ahead and blame Ezio for not calling me out on it during the recording!
@JECE
@JECE 3 года назад
The orders are, in fact, a convoy paradox, albeit one covered by the rules. The rulebook itself uses the word "paradox". See Diagram 30 and "A Convoyed Attack Doesn't Cut Certain Supports" on page 17: web.archive.org/web/20200221110623/www.stabbeurfou.org/Regles.php
@moseszero3281
@moseszero3281 3 года назад
I have never even heard of this game but I am watching all of this series, Thnx for the convoy paradox explanation. 2:06:30
@jamessloven2204
@jamessloven2204 3 года назад
Awesome video! I've been looking forward to it. For what it is worth, I like you guys doing power rankings.
@flamingeskimo1136
@flamingeskimo1136 3 года назад
Just finished the last episode yesterday. Great timing!
@sleepysnake544
@sleepysnake544 3 года назад
Please continue the power rankings. It is so exciting to see how you think things will go in the future alongside the analysis of each season. I have also been running a spreadsheet with how the power rankings change over time and it is really cool to see the trends.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
Gotcha, we'll keep them going! I actually hadn't even considered keeping track of how they develop throughout, I'd be interested to see the end result of that spreadsheet.
@sleepysnake544
@sleepysnake544 3 года назад
@@DiploStrats When I have finished, should I get it to you by emailing diplostrats@gmail.com?
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
@@sleepysnake544 That'd be great, thanks!
@starbard2238
@starbard2238 3 года назад
I am two hours in to the 4th episode about the longest diplomacy game ever played and I have not heard about the convoy paradox. In fact I've never played a game of diplomacy.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
I never actually thought this series would get to people who'd never played Diplomacy, but very happy that it did! Thanks for watching! Convoy paradox is really not something you need to know to play or watch Diplomacy, it's a weird quirk of the rules that pops up once every thousand games or so :D
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman 3 года назад
I need that 17-16-1 in my life lmao
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
Had to go digging a bit to find it, but here it is! webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=346718#gamePanel He literally did this during the preamble before we started recording and we were both pretty stunned that the bots agreed to draw there. They have some weird requirements for putting their draw votes up :D
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman 3 года назад
@@DiploStrats Oh wow. When I heard 16-1-17 I just though it was stalemate-y. This is way messier that I could've imagined. Though not being used to webdip's map doesn't help. Up to this point I had only watched webdip vids on my 4K TV so I thought it just didn't upscale well. Opening this on my tiny phone confirmed that no, the UI just looks THAT horrible. I feel validated in my use of Backstabbr and Conspiracy now.
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
​@@AnglosArentHuman WebDip is my site of choice, due to generally higher quality games and a thriving tournament scene, but yeah the map is horrendous. I've been asking the admins to give it an overhaul for the past three years or so; I really hope they do at some point!
@josephcohen734
@josephcohen734 3 года назад
When you guys talk about public press, do you mean there was only one chat thread and all the players could see it? So like Russia can see everyone talking about how they're going to kill him?
@DiploStrats
@DiploStrats 3 года назад
Yep! On webDiplomacy, all press is through chat tabs - you have one for each country and one for Global Communications everyone can see. This game was a variant called Public Press Only, which means all chat tabs are disabled except for the public one, so everyone can see every message that gets posted.
@mikewhiskey6796
@mikewhiskey6796 3 года назад
Wrong I am watching this video series and have never seen the convoy paradox before this point.
@ConradJD777
@ConradJD777 Год назад
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