The M1 Carbine That Does Not Suck: Auto Ordnance 

Comments from TNP Patreon members! Pezz Pezzer "Ooooooh I like this one. May have just made the short list of must have historic firearms I would like to have in the collection some day. Thank you again Nutn' for yet again another excellent GRV." Comfortably Plumb "Such an awesome system. It is hard these days to think outside the bottom line as far as a gun that fits all philosophies. As far as second cool, the m1 is top 3 on my list." texangunner "What is the pump rifle in the background? Looks cool"

This was my grandfather's gun in ww2. He was d-day +6, he said there was so much confusion while loading the boat to go to shore he lost his carbine. He landed on the beaches with no weapon. He eventually found one, and ended up driving a supply truck on the red ball express. A few years back, my Dad and I bought him one and had it engraved with "the missing gun".

I finally got the Springfield M1A a couple years ago. It's. Probably my favorite rifle to shoot .

This video led me to buy an Auto Ordnance AOM130 from Brownells. Out of the box I was getting light primer strikes and sent it back to Auto Ordnance under warranty. They fixed it at absolutely no cost to me and now it runs like a top! I love the M1 Carbine and this little guy will help me preserve my WWII Inlands. You gotta love a 78+ year old design that still just plain works. My new AOM130 came with a type 2 barrel band so I didn't have the issues that Nutn and TD had with the sling. Thanks for the review guys!

Auto Ordnance comes almost spot- on- true to the D-Day Issue M1 Carbine. "Four hole" hand guards, bayonet lugs, adjustable rear sights, round bolts, etc., were early 1950s armory "improvements." There's an authority on the M1, here in my home town, who's written two books on the M1 Carbine. His last name is 'Ruth," and the books are "War Baby," and "War Baby II".

I'm glad to see you guys make the 357 Magnum lever gun comparison. My dad had a couple of Korean war-era Surplus M1 carbines when I was a kid. Some of the guys that went out shooting with us were Vietnam veterans and they just turn their noses up at those things they would say stuff like at 300 yards the bullets would just get stuck in the flak vest. My dad told me to think of it as a pistol with a stock in a long barrel not as a short rifle

Walked into my local gun store in Cody Wyoming and walked out with an M1 Carbine, 11 magazines, and 150 rounds of 30 carbine. And a bayonet. I picked it up off the consignment rack and could'nt put it down, so i bought it. 800 bucks. Receiver made in September 1944 with an Inland General Motors barrel. Probably not all numbers matching but i don't care about that. It shoots great and makes me happy.

I love my M1 Carbine! Say what you will but the bottom line is that it throws a 110gr piece of lead at over 1900fps. And it can do it at 15 rounds a clip as fast as you can pull the trigger!

As time goes on, Doodle looks more and more like John Malkovich.

I’ve got an Auto Ordnance M1 with a folding paratrooper, and I love the living hell out of it.

Having shot several M1 Carbines over the years, the only one I can recall being outright bad was a Universal M1 Carbine. But that was just that one example. The other 3 I shot worked well or relatively well as far as M1 Carbines go. I owned an Inland M1 Carbine(new manufacture), before I sold it I had at least 6,500 rounds through it of various types and brands. I kept good records on what I shot, of how much, and what gave me trouble. And I can tell you, that out of the 6,500 or so the only issues I encountered were as follows... Hornady Critical Defense, tried 2 boxes and between failures to feed, and eject, I had failures to extract and fire out of 50 rounds. Perhaps they were bad boxes, but never touched the stuff after that. PPU loaded JSP's, 100 rounds tested and out of 100 I probably had 15 failures, all failures to feed because the bullets were not properly seated and some were too long and others too short to make it up the feed ramp. And lastly, was with some MagTech JSP's. Out of 300 rounds, only had 6 that failed to feed. But that's it... Tula Steel, Israeli surplus FMJ/JSP, Federal FMJ/JSP, Remington FMJ/JSP, PPU FMJ, MagTech FMJ, Aguila FMJ/JSP, and Hornady Custom XTP's all fed and fired properly, no issues. I kept it cleaned and well oiled and it ran fine. I said this same thing(though with less rounds at the time) back in your original review. You always say, you're a sample size of one. Well, this is my sample size of one. I can find at least 2 others I know personally who would give you similar experiences. The Auto Ordnance guns do work though and cost about $300 less than the Inlands on average. If you just want an M1 Carbine for a project gun or a shootable piece of history without paying "collector" prices it's definitely a better buy than taking a chance on an old Iver Johnson or Universal model. While I never had issues with Iver Johnsons or the majority of Universals I've fired I will say I have not fired them as extensively as I had my Inland. Though I had at least 2,000 rounds down an Iver Johnson for sure and cant recall any sort of issue.

The original mag pouch on the stock was a belt mag pouch. Something the troops thought of to carry more ready mag loaded ammo rather than constantly using stripper clips to load the magazines during a fire fight. The carbine was already light weight and the extra weight didn’t make a big difference as compared to having more accessible loaded magazines.

Love the look on doodles face at the start of every review

Not going to lie Nutn. I’ve been away from the channel for a while but have been checking in from time to time. Glad your still putting out excellent content though.

Hands Down the Funnest rifle I ever owed. Bought mine in 1983 and it was a IVER Johnson

Havent gotten a chance to watch the video yet, but had to come and comment about how badass Mrs. Nutnfancy looks in the thumbnail!! Perfect!!

My dad had an old Universal-made M1 Carbine. Yeah, it wasn't the most high quality, but I feel it would be great to hang out with him on the range, shooting, and sharing time with him again. Thank you for the memories, guys. Now that I think about it, I'm a little jealous that you & TD get to hangout & talk "shop". You guy s have something to be treasured. Well done!

I'm european and have an 1943 m1 carbine that works fine. I had to replace the extractor. I have used the M1 in competitions. Bought a bunch of israeli 30 round magazines (unused) and have a bunch of 15 round unused magazines in original grease paper.

I read the M1 Carbine was also intended to replace the M1911 sidearm. So it would be issued to radio men, mortar men, non-coms & officers as well as rear echelon troops.

Mine was made by the underwood typewriter company in Jan of 1943. The original auto ordnance corporation was subcontracted to make receivers for the carbine.

M1 Carbines were like Mosins. In the 1990's M1$140 each. I bought three Rockola, Inland, Winchester. Dad has Saganaw. $89 SKS everywhere, cases 7.62 China NORINCO $120. M1Garand BlueSky Montana $250. I miss those days.

I dont often comment but its nice to see something different and refreshing. Thanks for doing this so well for so long.

Great review on this little piece of history. I asked my father what weapons he carried in the Korean war as a first Lieutenant. Naturally he had been issued a 1911 Colt, but his issue rifle was the little carbine you reviewed. I suspect he had chosen it because of its light weight. I asked him how he liked it and was surprised to hear his reply. While in training he had recieved his expert marksman medal. I think he was pleased with that accomplishment because he reveled in teaching me basic marksmanship . I brought this up because of what he then told me. While suffering through a bitter winter in Korea his company came under attack by what was described as a red wave. As this horde of Chi-com soldiers stormed his position he said how surprised he was by how big they were. He said as he fired at them he could see puffs of dirt fly off their big quilted overalls confirming he had shot them! But to his dismay they kept attacking and required that he shoot them several more times before they went down. But he said that's not why he hated the gun. He said he hated it because even after cleaning and oiling the gun, it would jamb with just the slightest amount of dirt. Something that was impossible to avoid in Korea.. But his biggest problem occurred when during a firefight in the cold, the lubricating oil they had been issued, froze the bolt closed! The tiny charging handle was impossible to grip with gloves, so in freezing conditions he took his gloves off and still couldn't get the bolt open! He said he tried peeing on it but couldn't pee because he was in the middle of a firefight! So in his desperation he grabbed the gun by the barrel and started kicking down on the charging handle. After several hard kicks he was able to get the bolt to unlock..... only to have the gun go full auto.... as he was holding it by the barrel! He said it almost took his head off! He was able to get back in the fight only to be wounded. He was subsequently wounded in three other firefights thus receiving 4 purple hearts. He said when the attack was repelled and things calmed down, he took his m1 carbine and smashed it on some rocks and then had ordinance issue him a BAR! I hope you enjoyed this little story, just after we celebrated Memorial day!

Love these reviews but, in this particular case, I have to offer a differing viewpoint. I've owned my AOM-130 for about 18 months now. My experience has been a bit different. Frequent jams and stovepipes, even after over 1,000 cycles and a trip back to the factory. Comparing notes with other owners, the quality control seems to be hit or miss. My particular rifle is very persnickety about both ammo (loves Hornady Critical Defense and Tula steel case - hates everything else I've tried) and mags (KCI mags work better than anything else I've tried - the factory mags are a nightmare). It noticeably improved around the 300 cycle point, but it still can't get through 50 rounds without a malfunction. Have ordered a stiffer recoil spring from Wolff, hoping that will help. But as it stands, no way would I use this particular for any kind of self-defense or other critical type of work. It's just not reliable. Glad your rifle works, but there are many of us out here with very disappointing results out of the box.

Unfortunately, I did not have the same experience as you with my sample size of one.

Son-in-law thoroughly enjoys his Auto Ordnance M1C. I bit the bullet and went with Fulton Armory. No regrets for the extra cost. It's truly sweet.

I bought my AOM140 Carbine in 2015. It did not come with a sling, so I had none of the problems you talked about with the sling. The rifle functions perfectly. The only ammo I have used is Armscor and Aguila. BTW, the ammo pouch on the sling was originally designed to be hooked onto a GI belt. Some GI thought up the way it could be used on the buttstock of the carbine. Mine does not allow a 15rd mag to fit in the rear pocket, so I put a 10 round mag there. I bought reproduction sling (forgot where). My brother-in-law has a Saginaw original carbine, which he got for $50, from a co-worker who was behind on his alimony payments. He also has an original WWII M-1 Garand. I have not looked it over to see who made it, etc. I put electrical tape on the sling hardware to avoid marring the stock, just as you did. Great review; glad to see it show up on my computer. Thinking of getting an adjustable rear sight like yours, but they are very pricey. I have recently started watching the Combat TV series on my computer. The platoon leader Lieut. Handley uses his M-1 carbine frequently in many episodes. The squad leader, Sgt. uses a M-1928 Thompson SMG. I hate to see the way it gets tossed around like a used bean can.

There is a video somewhere on youtube about the French Foreign Legion using this weapon, and the ballistic test is surprising. It turns out the .30 cartridge actually causes alot of trauma to flesh at the ranges it would be used. It's a neat little package, and the select fire version would of been awesome.

I literally just started considering picking one of these up for plinking instead of a PC9. Great timing for my decision making.

I won one of these in a GOAL raffle last year! Awesome carbine I love it. I went out and bought an AO 1911a1 to match! Review that next? Thanks GOAL!! support all 2A groups!

Glad to see a good m1 carbine option! I was looking at a fulton armory m1 carbine because it actually works, but it is twice the price!

A friend who was a Special Forces advisor in Vietnam in about ‘63 - ‘64, was training South Vietnamese troops. On patrols, he carried an M-1 carbine and a bunch of mags in his ruck. He felt it served him well.

I've got a Paratrooper and it is crazy how uncomfortable they are to shoot... yet at the same time so much fun lol. And to think these things were passed out to our troops to use. We are truly spoiled with our modern rifles and good, comfortable ergos.

I love the ad dig on Demolition Ranch. TNP forever!

Howard Hawks' film "The Thing" - USAAF flyboys with .30 Carbines vs. monster from another world. Great flick!

Hey guys, fulton armory has new barrel bands type 1 that will fit that sling, under $20. Thanks for the vid

Had one in 79 and absolutely loved it. It was a ww2 Carbine and I purchased a number of banana mags for it. Lived in Florida and with the ammo being cheap then I used to go out in the bush and shoot away. Was a blast and am thinking of buying another. Have 2 Ar15's and an additional upper. Love your site and have been a fan for years.

M1 Carbines are sweet shooters. I'm sure only reason they are not more popular is because few own them. Compact, light weight, no recoil and a classic rifle. Everyone should own one.

In early Vietnam some of our Green berets carried the M-1, M-2

Have an AO when they first came out... still works great even with my crude reloads... bought the magazine followers that allow a bolt hold open when empty...works on all magazines...!!

How does this channel not have a million subscribers by now? I remember watching his stuff years ago, and I recently starting watching again and this is premium content

A wolf recoil spring will fix the feed issues when new.

When reloading this cartridge, it is VERY IMPORTANT to properly size the case length, and the overall cartridge length... these two critical factors allow proper chamber seating for consistent function. Even some factory ammo is off specs, causing problems and you think the gun is crap... but its the ammo first, the magazines second, causing problems...that is why I reload and keep case length/ overall cartridge length spec tight...very few function problems.

Random things you guys say have me cracking up, the Swedish Chef voice is gonna be in my head all week!

I would love to see your option on 357 lever guns, I am considering buying one in the next year, just bought my son his 1st gun 22lr Henry lever gun and I am impressed with the quality. His gun really has me itching for one in 38/357. I already have everything else so this is going to be for pleasure only. Great to see another gun review from you guys, let's get back to doing run & guns 😜👍 ✌

Very informative entertaining video. I enjoy my Auto - Ordnance M1 Paratrooper.

Re-spring both the old rifle and weak magazines with Wolfe springs to bring them back. Esp banana clips have weak springs. The Texas tower killer used a M1c.

I carried an M2 carbine as backup to my M79 as an advisor in Vietnam 20 Ed’s beats 8 Ed’s 45 when you are ambushed at close quarters and is liter than M14. Yes it with kill.

I love the M1 carbine. Despite all the bad rap about being underpowered and ineffective, especially with modern hollow point ammo the .30 carbine tound can be a solid, dependable performer.

0:03 nutnfancy looks confused when he looks the kid face 😂😂

I have three original M1 carbines and I love them! I have thought about buying a new production but I was concerned that they wouldn't be exactly like the original and/or would be unreliable. I may seriously consider this one.

An interesting comparison would be one that pits the M1 carbine against a modern pistol-caliber carbine such as the Ruger PC carbine.

Love the blade, Such an attachment engender its touching the primal wiring inside and aggression in him - and amplify the primal need to live as the receiving end nears. Try it out sometime, you will understand.

I owned one years ago,,,back in the 80's, and just never really got into the thing. Made a trade and got something else. In a way I wish I still had it, just because. Thumbs up yall!~John

Really been wanting an M1 Carbine for a while now, and most originals I've seen at gun shows are well beyond my justifiable budget... and they're originals, so I'd be afraid to actually do anything with it. I've also been a bit miffed at the lack of in-depth reviews on the Auto-Ordnance version, but now that there is, I think I might just put my next paycheck and tips towards an AO M1.

It’s always a pleasure to see Mrs. Nut’n joining the frey. An intelligent and attractive brunette who knows her way around a firearm. You’re a lucky man. Regarding the M1C, I’d have one if ammo was cheaper. Once I start reloading, I may pick one up. I always loved these. My favorite rifle of WW II.

The safety police have arrived...no eye protection for Mrs Nutnfancy? Great vid btw.

Doodle scares me when he smiles......

I like how he tested their friendship with that green parkerization question😂

I'm completely obsessed with naval history now after playing World of Warships (same company, WarGaming) -- so you're right... it definitely helps with getting people into the history. However, I am already kind of a history nerd so I don't know if everyone is like that, lol

I learned about guns from Call of Duty. I didn’t grow up with guns but I grew up playing games and interested in guns. I started buying when I turned 18 and now have a huge collection and work at a gun store.

While I'm not planning to run out and grab an M1 carbine anytime soon, this video did make me want to take my 9mm PCC to the range.

love the m1c pick up ammo and mags when it all goes super south good luck boys these are the best little rifles ever great vid

Green park is zinc parkerization, black park is manganese parkerization. For cool factor zinc is period correct on older guns but manganese parkerization is definitely more durable

Thanks nut n fancy!! M1 carbine by auto ordnance is my favorite auto rifle !! It’d probably be my only rifle if I didn’t hunt or live out in the country ! I also own USGI parts carbine but have it for backup and just to have.

I bought an AO M1 Carbine about 30 years ago. It is flawless performing. Just took it out today after reading some negative reviews. I fired two 15 round mags and a 30 round mag. Slow fire, rapid fire without a single problem. It's been my favorite shooter for years. I hit consistently at 300 yards. Everyone that tries it falls in love with it.

One big important thing a lot of people neglect about the M1 carbine, is that it was never meant to fill the role of a rifle, it was meant to be something bigger and better than a pistol, a large secondary weapon. This is meant to replace your Glock or 1911, not your AR or AK or M1 Garand. However, in states you can't have ARs or AKs, it may be the next best thing. Many people are also unaware that the M1 Carbine is meant to be holstered on your side (like a handgun), not slung on your back, but can do either.

I've been subbed to this channel for I don't know how long. It may well be the very first channel I ever subbed to, and I've been on YT since forever. I do not understand how Nutn doesn't have a million subs. Conscientious, thorough, honest information on a wide variety of gear and other topics. His heart is in the right place on all the issues that matter to gear enthusiasts and 2A people. Not much I can do about but I think it's kinda sad that so many lesser channels have more subs. You do deserve it Nutn.

My first memory of the M1 Carbine is that it always seemed to be in the hands of the bad guys in the Six Million Dollar Man. I've wanted one ever since, but I heard nothing but horror stories about modern production guns until now. Looks like I'll be buying another gun soon. "thanks", guys. :)

They advise you to work the action by hand a few hundred times before firing to reduce stoppages.

Paratrooper model I have fits perfectly in an M60 spare barrel bag and makes a great truck gun.

Dig the bunker reviews with tactical doodle. Any plans to do more motorcycle vids? Both street and dirt biking really dug the rides you did with buggetnuster and the Moab trip you did a few years back

My uncle served in the south pacific, they used the M1 carbine full auto to clear Japanese snipers from tree tops. The green parkerizing was from long term storage in cosmoline, original parkerizing was black.

just picked one of these up the other day.

I love your channel! :-) Doodle is awesome! Happy to see father son have a passion about the same things! :-)

Just an FYI OxiClean does wonders on cosmolined parts. Just don't use it on aluminum.

godddddd that last clip of u guys walking in the desert not talking sounded soooo cool.

Any chance you guys would review a Palmetto State Armory AR9? Would love to see if it's worth it against a Ruger PC Carbine. Good review as always!

Shoot your AO carbine and then tear it down and look for metal displacement. I had a AO and after 50 rounds of factory Aguilar ammo I had severe metal displacement on the bolts operating lug. Shipped it back to AO, and when it came back it had a letter that nothing was wrong with the gun, but somewhere along the way my barrel developed a ring in it, that wasn’t their when I shipped it back.

A Very UNDERRATED Carbine & Cartridge.... Check your ballistics table, guys... the .30 carbine cartridge SMOKE'S a .357 magnum. A standard .30 carb. 110 fmj runs 1990 fps at the muzzle. A hot .357 runs 1500 fps at the muzzle. At 100 yards, .30 carbine puts over 620 ft.lbs of energy on target. A .357 does that at 25 yard's. This is an old & outdated comparison. In truth, there IS NO comparison! .30 carbine whoops a .357 like a stepchild. I like your banter. But you need to stay focused on the gun you're featuring. You're all over the map! I have to remind myself you're reviewing the Auto Ordnance model 130 M1 Carbine. (I'm not hating on you guy's. Constructive criticism only!)

Cz scorpion is the only carbine I’d buy right now. Price is right and reliable and suppressor friendly.

"Dwarven Mithril" haha, TD's sci fi is on point!

My auto ordinance was not what I expected brand new out of the box. It was a jam-o matic I sent it back to auto ordinance, they replaced the extractor sent back worked fine through 46 rounds then the problem came back. Sent it to Fulton armory because the warranty had just run out. Fulton told me the They replaced it with a very old used bolt and the extractor doesn’t even fit he was surprised it would shoot at all. Anyway waiting on the bolt hopefully it will work then. Good luck

Plot twist: that actually was an ad for world of tanks.

Conserning The Jamming: #1) Fire The Rifle FAST, To Help Break It In... #2) Load The 15rd Mags, With ONLY 10 To 12rds... #3) Polish The Feed Ramp, So Rds Can Enter The Chamber Alot Better...

The "don't ask, don't tell" method is alive and well with firearm purchases across the US of A

:02 pause. YEEEEET Tactical Doodle is present!!!!

Nutn/TD combo reviews/discussions/random silliness are by far my favourite Nutnfancy videos since the Sledghammer series of Vids. Keep these up mates! Love wactching you two talk, discuss and bounce jokes off each other. ^.-.^

I love carbines. I personally never buy new made ones but prob wouldn’t mind if it ran flawless. As you mentioned most of what I will say, They are the perfect ban state rifle for HD. Close range the .30 round is great. Low recoil so follow up shots are fast and really anyone can shoot it since it’s tame. No scary pistol grips, or flash hiders to make you look bad if you do end up using it in defense shooting. If you need good 10 round mags they are available as well. I personally am using an arsenal refinished rock-ola that I don’t mind shooting because it’s prob got many replacement parts so it’s not 100% original. Gun and mag springs are easily able to buy to freshen it up. Stupid simple controls, you can rack it with your pinky. Such a great fun gun. Usgi parts are everywhere and affordable as well and are all compatible. Once you take it apart a couple times they are very easy to completely tear down yourself and put back together

I could not empty a 15rnd mag in rapid fire succesion without it jamming up, and that was with 5 different mags.....

Haven't tuned in for awhile & and I'm not disappointed that I clicked, enjoyed everything as always including the new guy. Keep up the great content!

Like the old ones. Got grandpas.(Y-Daddy we kids called him)Clarance Pinky Elvis Ludwig.WW2 vet.was a low level gangster type guy from Chicago & met my grandmother “”Binga “in rural NC post war somehow.& here I am.lifes a trip!

Still love your videos. Thank you.

I had to stop wearing my smart watch because every time I wanted to look at the time it would show me my steps or some other crap

I'm in New Jersey. The .30 carbine is illegal in my state ☹️!!!! The excuse is it's too easy to convert to full auto. WTF!!! Now I can't complete my WW2 collection. Love all of your content, bunker or table top👍🇺🇸

you guys would be suprised how well kept war time m1s were

Fulton Armory sells a repro sling swivel if you haven't updated it by now

Auto ordinance also sells the "tommy gun" if you're so inclined but personally I would go for the carbine

I was thinking earlier today "damm i wish nutnfancy dropped a video today". And then this comes! Yay!

If you guys like reviewing WW2 guns then some recommendations would be the GSG STG44 chambered in .22lr, GSG MP40 9mm Pistol, or the Auto Ordnance reproduction of a Thompson Submachine gun. I think it'd be cool to review a Thompson from Auto Ordnance because I remember Nutn telling a story about his dad when he served in Vietnam and that he saw a sleeping ARVN guard who had a chrome plated Tommy gun with him and Auto Ordnance sells a couple of Thompsons that are chrome plated. That'd probably be a cool family gun to keep around as a reminder of your dad Nutn. Keep up the great work. You convinced me to seriously consider the Auto Ordnance M1 carbine as my next collectible rifle.