THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES  

The unknowing: we make things impossible to understand, recognise or reason Basira: well two out of three ain't bad

Basira René Descartes’d her way out of the Unknowing

Not out so mach as keeping her sanity intact and surviving

I wonder if he uses "Detective" as a sort of (potentially mocking) honorific for officers under the Hunt, the same way they refer to Jon as "Archivist"

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What else would you expect from someone serving the Beholder?

Pretty much.

@@lord_azazel001 you think the eye was like " your wreck of a love life is supernatural, put it in the archives"

@@phosismyb1tch717Probably lol

Conspiring is a bit of a strong word in this situation. I think Basira knows she is way out of her depth and there are things that are far worse than Elias, so she is willing to listen to his offer to see if the information is useful. Elias knows to much to not be useful, but she also knows that he is actively trying to manipulate her and not to trust him. She is doing the same with John. While she wants to believe John is still the same person, it is too dangerous to trust him. She is probably trying to think of a way to kill him, but won't until he gives her a reason to.

also sounds like alias, but that could be coincidence...

My fav pun is the fact that Jon’s last name is SIMS, like the game where you simulate life and watch

@@jend3598 Except that is the guys real name.

Charlie M. Hmm... Yes... coincidence... 👀

@@jend3598 that’s just the writer’s name lmfao

since "a guest for mr spider" ive seen the fact that no one knocks in his door as favor that he asked the rest

Knock. Knock. Who is is, Mr. Archivist?

Man got kidnapped too often he lost door privileges

The Eliasification of Jonathan Sims

​@@ollieri oh that's a hella cool theory and actually makes a ton of sense!

he is eliminating all _distractions,_ after all.

Peter rlly said “I’m gonna pull an Elias real quick” and just went “whoopsie Martin looks like your mom died and you have nobody left in your life but me, you will not teach me Microsoft programs that gives you too much interaction with others. Bye.”

Elias just wants to enjoy his food sometimes. Villains need snacks.

the funnier part is that it's not "sometimes I'm sleeping"

Same

@@simavolodina Eh, most people sleep with their eyes closed. That's just inefficient.

This explains how he 'feeds' the Beholding.

That is dedication to your job

The eye is a picky eater

Dude was trancing

And then the statement of statements calling out called out.

Yeah, that image is simultaneously really hilarious and sort of concerning. Just… Jon sitting cross-legged on the ground with his eyes closed TrYiNg tO hEaR tHe sTaTeMeNtS… 😭💀

i get theyre afraid of the unknown and only bad things are associated w the entities and their powers but have some goddamn sympathy wont u for the position hes been put into.

@@SS-kv3iw also like, Jesus, maybe if you treat him kindly he would be less likely to fall into the darkness of being an avatar. My first thought would be trying to help him hold onto his humanity and instead everyone's going after him and making it remarkable that he's still so good

Im worried he made his choice and that's how he woke up.

EXACTLY!!

​@@Vi_Vi_1yeah,imagine if he does lose all of his humanity. How is he gonna treat them then?

It was a bad breakup 😔

*audible facepalm*

Gay gay gay, gay on the low

The breakup was tough but for the best it seems

hmm... this is definitely fruity

mans got his own tv set in his head

I think Jack London wrote a book called the Star Rover which was based on a man locked in a prison cell who saw the universe.

Right?! Just... oof! 😩

bro, foreshadowing...? what else can happen to him.... oh no...

WHATS GONNA HAPPEN???? edit: the magnus archives sure is a podcast huh?

Watch MAG160 to find out.

@@arifhossain9751 im on my way..! ep 149 right now...

we wanted elias to go away but then lukas was an instant "FUCK GO BACK" moment... elias you're a bastard but id rather have you around

​@@f_mva2 for the price of 1. KEEP BOTH THE FUCKERS FOR DRAMA!

nah, he's playing 4D chess and Annabelle Cane is dancing around him in 5D chess

It's like a cascade of marionettes, where Elias is puppeteering Jon, Annabelle is puppeteering Elias and the Web is puppeteering Annabelle.

​@@pepi7404 A Pinocchio cascade 😂

i havent listened to the entire podcast yet but so far it seems elias wasnt as evil as we give him credit for. so far, he only tried to help "save the world" ...and there were references to him trying to do the beholdings ritual but i dont know what that would do

OOP...

One of my favorites is like that but it’s just like the eye REALLY likes particular things, like insects “This particular butterfly is of the genus Papilionidae and include over 550 species. Though the majority are tropical, members of the family inhabit every continent except Antarctica. The family includes the largest butterflies in the world, the birdwing butterflies of the genus Ornithoptera. As of 2005, 552 extant species have been identified which are distributed across the tropical and temperate regio-“ (Etc etc) For hours on end there could just be seemingly endless insect facts.

@@ThatOneArchivist Will Shetterly's Cats Have No Lord had a woman become one with her universe (it was a small universe) and one of the few things that stuck was a home recipe for furniture polish.

Hes the fun fact emporium

weird off shoot is that Lukas is protecting Martin from Jon's power?

same, it's an interesting turn around from season 2 but aaaahhhhhh. Also sad that martin is the only one that would probably still trust him completely but lucas is keeping him away from the others

thats literally exactly what i was thinking

Wasn't this set in Germany? Bit Jon reading the German sentence sounded a bit like Russian to me (a German)

@@lilaboxx samesame, I kinda cringed (?) at the way Jon pronounced "leg sie zurück" :')

​@@meiko4732he's trying his best 😭 My poor monolingual Ceaseless Watcher. He never has the chance to learn - he just has auto-translate in his head

Oh it was GERMAN. I thought it was some sort of an ancient chant in an obscure language, good job jon lmao

Same dude

I didn't realize it until I read your comment xD

@@ksimvanderhlaar Who knew you could so easily not recognize your mother tongue, right?

Ohhhhh I didn't get that at all

Why not both

Hey at least you don't have a singing coffin while it rains

@@lark7655 maybe you don't

Brilliant

So I listen to it while I do homework at like 1-5 am when it’s dark out and I don’t bide well with horror things so it’s terribly ironic

They have a real way with words in this podcast, I keep getting surprised

My name is Amalia, so I'm REALLY not used to sharing it with other people, and I remember that when I was in 7th grade, a sixth grader came to our school, who's name was also Amalia. Literally EVERY time someone said her name in the hallway or the library, I would look up and say "what?" It sucked.

Where I'm from, my name is rare too. "Arif" is the Arabic verb for "Knowing"... Ominous, innit?

@@ASeed17 hah, my name is Amalia too, and yes, i'm not used to share it with someone else, despite the fact that in my life, for some reason, were much more people with that name than should be)

Tell me about it. My name's Daisy!

@@dizzy388 ~ avatar of the hunt ~

AND I WAS WONDERING WHY HIS BEHAVIOR SEEMED SO SIMILAR-

***laughs in relistener trauma*** ***cries in relistener trauma*** I'm sure you've finished it now, hope you enjoyed...

oh yeah, same!

A.HAM

A. BURR!

Currently I've got 12 Johns not including our darling Archivist

Reverse eye. New entity: The Mouth ~ Blabbering ~ Ceaseless Talker Fears assosciated: not knowing how to leave an awkward situation, not knowing how to draw boundaries, feeling forced to listen to someone oversharing

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..And when the remains were seen, they looked BACK

The pursuit of knowledge seems to lead to very Lovecraftian ends, doesn't it? I'd argue that the fear and chaos weren't brought but already there, hiding. But looking too much makes you one of them. I think this is the first statement that mentions that Jonah Magnus was directly connected to the panopticon prison. It is..disconcerting.

Hmm I had thought it was a web statement actually but I guess the eye makes more sense. "Clustering together" had me think what he discovered were spiders but they're probably eyes.

@@ineedmoresalmon2475 well, Eye is my best guess since the autopsy revealed a bunch of eyes looking back at the statement provider, but if you've been around here long enough you'll know how connected the Fears are. Web and Eye are in an alliance with 2 other fears. you can guess which one's... they're all things introverts are immune to.

Definitely an Eye statement. Not really any mention of webs or loneliness but plenty about books, and the first part of Albrecht's story back in s1 there's a lot of Eye iconography. The priest who went to hilltop road was possessed by the Spiral. He was hallucinating; seeing and hearing things that weren't actually there. or did you mean Maxwell Rayner, the head of the People's Church of the Divine host? I don't recall him ever going to Hilltop Road. I don't think the Montauks were originally connected to the hunt as Julia's mother had a necklace/pendant of a closed eye (symbol of People's Church of the Divine host) and Julia was afraid of the dark. Pretty sure her father was forced to kill/sacrifice people to the darkness to protect her, and in the process drew the attention of the Hunt. I don't think the Darkness feeds on people of faith so much as that's just how Maxwell Rayner operates. For example when Julia Montauk and Trevor the Tramp met the Darkness was operating as a small business, and that guy who hid under his blanket to escape the darkness wasn't religious as far as i can recall.

The Montauks were in a Darkness cult. I can't recall if it was specifically the People's Church though, it's been a while since i listened to season 1.

@@mimkyodar The Montauk side story is very hard to follow (its almost as if it's *shrouded in darkness* ). We are sure they are Darkness followers, and when the Darkness betrayed them, Robert betrayed it back in order to save his daughter. He starts exhibiting Hunt-like behaviour (namely, killing other fear cultists) and i guess this little bit of a favour is repayed by Julia being taken under the Hunt's figuritive wing by having Trevor pick her up and train her?

He might not be great but he is at least better than Peter

Me too. It's not like I have anything better to do

stop that

me too

They really didn't convey enough horror. Jon and Gertrude were freaked at the idea of an Archivist becoming a humanoid eyeball. The autopsy says this guy had working, seeing eyeballs growing all over his insides.

Pretty sure it's the Eye, aka the Beholding, aka the viewer

i think its the eye, and the people that have the powers of the eye just kinda. can do it too.

they mentioned on earlier seasons that he listens to every tape but like, regular, normal human putting on a tape and listening to the statement. don't know if that remains true now that he's not one

Jon gets the tapes somehow but I'm pretty sure the recorders are somehow from the web

We're listening to the tapes, duh.

Yup, pretty much.

So Jonah indirectly killed the Archivist..?

@@Badficwriter Pretty sure. It would have been on purpose too.

In this case namesake just refers to coincidence

oh that's what it is. yeah, he's certainly been speaking differently, I just hadn't spotted what it was

I've heard that Ben Meredith, Elias' voice actor, sort of derived his character's voice from S1 Jon's, and they seemed quite similar to me too, at times it was hard to tell them apart. Not anymore but they are definitely similar.

Hmm... interesting detail! I hadn’t noticed that before! 😃

i feel like they're way older than the archives? the statements don't seem nearly as cursed as the books

No, the books are actual aspects of the fears. The statements are ... i guess its like food for the eye?

ikr like that's CREEPY

i love all the eye emojis you're using in your comments, very fitting

the fact that the episode is about The Eye makes it even better

Frost Personal twas unintentional lol but thanks!

OP, i wanna ask if elias is still morally good for u