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The Marvels REJECTED by Women, Box office DISASTER leads to PANIC among DEI shills! 

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The Marvels flopping like it did puts the entire MCU in a precarious position. Many outlets will declare Marvel in crisis, but will stop short at diagnosing the real and true reasons for why the why. We have no such qualms though.
In this postmortem, we will begin with the highlights of the boxoffice results, before looking at the cognitive dissonance of those who can’t handle the implications of movie failing; and finally, explore how it was in no small part Disney’s corprorate ESG drive for DEI that crippled the MCU.
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@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
Sorry about my voice being a bit rusty, down with a cold during the making of the video!
@IvanSanchez-ft3mp
@IvanSanchez-ft3mp 8 месяцев назад
No worries! Can't wait to see the video
@lethalbox909
@lethalbox909 8 месяцев назад
We’re not here for your voice. We’re here for you being the voice of reason. Keep the videos coming. Rusty voice or not.
@shawncarter7188
@shawncarter7188 8 месяцев назад
Feel better
@michaellowrance8639
@michaellowrance8639 8 месяцев назад
Info is still solid. Vocal rest and hydration
@Troy_Tempest
@Troy_Tempest 8 месяцев назад
Vodka!
@pamelahermano9298
@pamelahermano9298 8 месяцев назад
As a woman, I can tell you, I didn't go to see Marvel films to see myself represented. I went there to see hot masculine men saving the day. There's no fun in it for me to watch a bunch of girl bosses showing just how incompetent the men around them are.
@methosimortal
@methosimortal 8 месяцев назад
Same 😂
@johnnyt71982
@johnnyt71982 8 месяцев назад
Kevin Feige: "We don't do that here".
@silverbirch-youtube
@silverbirch-youtube 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'm a bi woman and I don't want to see sexless torn faced frumps aggressively belittling men either. If these studios ever bothered to look at fanfiction (most readers there are female, a large percent are gay/bi) they would see how female focused stories and F/F pairings bomb. The popular stuff focuses on men and male relationships, even to a mostly female (and non straight) audience. It's probably the same phenomenom with how my dating history goes - women are not nice to other women and outside of tight circles of pre-existing friendship, usually see other women as threats and are catty and mean towards them. Men are not like this. Men are easy and accepting of new people - and therefore both men and women generally have an easier time liking them. This extends to imaginary made up fictional characters too! That's the problem with all the authoritarian top-down, command-economy ethos from our 'elites' these days - it doesn't respect basic human nature yet they think they can mould us at will with marketing and PR to be the loveless, joyless serf class they want.
@thanakonpraepanich4284
@thanakonpraepanich4284 8 месяцев назад
Looking back, was the first Wonder Woman film one of the few that done the female superhero right?
@uxm4life94
@uxm4life94 8 месяцев назад
Exactly- no actual fan of anything wants to see themselves- as that is not how escapism or fantasy work
@dahlialightwood563
@dahlialightwood563 8 месяцев назад
Here is a concept: Women want to see hot MEN, not middle-aged and average-looking women. Marvel is failing because they removed all the good-looking men that women found attractive and that men admired for being badasses. How Disney hasn't figured this out is beyond me. If they want my business, female characters are fine...But bring back hot MEN!
@barneyklingenberg4078
@barneyklingenberg4078 8 месяцев назад
Alita was nice. They bought it and shelved it. Also sound of freedom did really well. Which was their property and would have cost Pennie’s to launch in comparison.
@ShinkuGouki
@ShinkuGouki 8 месяцев назад
They trashed and stomp on men and expect us to pay to get insulted.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
This is all done ON PURPOSE ... because "they" WANT TO DESTROY WESTERN CULTURE / UPLIFTING CULTURE ... and replace it with demoralising garbage. Watch the Yuri Bezmenov interview from 1984, he explains the FOUR PHASES of subversion (demoralisation, destabilisation, crisis, normalisation) and also the TWO IDEAS/DEMANDS (social justice, equity) ... which the KGB had supported to grow in the West (and they became self-sufficient, so they thrive even after the KGB is gone).
@user-rv9hp6bo3y
@user-rv9hp6bo3y 8 месяцев назад
Agreed. It worked very well for Wonder woman. Steve Trevor was a leader, an equal, conventionally attractive and charismatic. Wonder woman was a success because by having a strong male lead it was a signal men were welcome to be a part of the film too.
@Poundz978
@Poundz978 8 месяцев назад
Yes, we want to see hot women again too! Not these angry man hating sheros
@gamerkingdom1442
@gamerkingdom1442 8 месяцев назад
This obsession with the ESG SCORE has been one of the most revealing concepts I’ve ever seen since the Wokeness has started. Companies don’t give a CRAP about “Diversity and inclusion”, they never did! It’s always about the money…
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 8 месяцев назад
The short-term money, that is. Credit lines don't make profits, they just help you buy stuff and the likes.
@foxeye245
@foxeye245 8 месяцев назад
Someone needs to tell Blackrock that slavery is very unpopular in capitalist societies.
@deeem2628
@deeem2628 8 месяцев назад
LOL! Confused, are we?..
@Mosux2007
@Mosux2007 8 месяцев назад
Larry Fink is in need of Pb therapy. Desperately.
@mickmerr
@mickmerr 8 месяцев назад
"I don't need to hear some womans opinion of the Marvels , it wasn't made for her" 😂😂😂
@lunarvision
@lunarvision 8 месяцев назад
You are not wrong. It would be excellent if a someone actually spoke up and said this.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 8 месяцев назад
Spot on…just like Barbie wasn’t made for men! Trying to please everyone usually ends up pleasing no one! Give us a proper superhero movie again, and stop catering to people who simply aren’t that interested in them!
@mickmerr
@mickmerr 8 месяцев назад
@GIBBO4182 There's a lot to be said for just giving the people what they want.... But I think the problem with the MCU is bigger. They've just run out of heroes that people care about. That coupled with poor writing aimed at "new audiences" just doesn't work. Like James Bond, rest the franchise, then bring it back when the fatigue has passed.
@and__lam1152
@and__lam1152 8 месяцев назад
And do involve modern wahmen ... otherwise it'll end up being 🐕💩
@kenbe62
@kenbe62 8 месяцев назад
The ESG situation would be solved if ANY business that lost customers due to this ESG garbage files a lawsuit for those damages. It seems like a slam dunk lawsuit. We did what they required, and we lost customers and this much money. Fink is already working to rebrand ESG now that ESG has entered too many conversations. But ESG is STILL there. The only way WE can FORCE behavior against these "corporate governance" is to make these economic dictators lose their money even positions.
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 8 месяцев назад
Or do whatever it takes to make them fear US more than they fear THEM.
@denvan3143
@denvan3143 8 месяцев назад
Larry Fink’s “forced change” is another term for fascism.
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 8 месяцев назад
AND communism. Considering that it's the Left we're talking about, I'd say it's more of the latter. Though then again, the two aren't so different.
@Buckeystown
@Buckeystown 8 месяцев назад
This is almost the definition of Fascism. Link to Blackstone buying the Democratic party and the definition is complete
@InTheNameOfGodIHaveCome
@InTheNameOfGodIHaveCome 8 месяцев назад
The undereducated and social media scholars fail to understand this. Their morals change like the wind. Their own emotions rise and fall like waves in the ocean.
@Jeff-cn9up
@Jeff-cn9up 8 месяцев назад
Fascism is the state over all, with powerful elements of socialism and nationalism. So this isn't fascism. It's just ideological authoritarianism, which can be of ANY political persuasion. All fascists are ideological authoritarians, but most ideological authoritarians are not fascists.
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 8 месяцев назад
@@Jeff-cn9up Yeah, it's more like Communism, at this point.
@larrygall5831
@larrygall5831 8 месяцев назад
So ironic how the best entertainment coming out of Hollywood isn't their movies.. It's their demise that is so fun to watch!
@lunarvision
@lunarvision 8 месяцев назад
So true! This is the way, my friend.
@buddygrimfield7954
@buddygrimfield7954 8 месяцев назад
I agree lol. I suppose that they can afford to make their battle for wokeness a matter of principle. Even if it means losing their asses off in the process. After all, they have other fish to fry than (what they apparently consider to be) "entertainment". Plenty of other pies to wriggle their fingers into smh. At any rate, I guess that we're going to have plenty of amusement for the foreseeable future. Because I somehow doubt that the greedy ceos like Fink intend to let this go without a fight.
@ShinkuGouki
@ShinkuGouki 8 месяцев назад
Feminists always ruin male spaces and then call us all kinds of names after they are done insulting men.
@commonsense3921
@commonsense3921 8 месяцев назад
Except it’s not really a demise.
@lunarvision
@lunarvision 8 месяцев назад
@@commonsense3921 Except, you are clearly a Disney shill living in denial. But please, keep commenting here.
@michaelloparco2173
@michaelloparco2173 8 месяцев назад
The ESG Mandates are the new Hays Code of the 30’s and 40’s.
@fuckwitmcdipshit2963
@fuckwitmcdipshit2963 8 месяцев назад
No, it is a new yellow star slapped on white people.
@mikeneil798
@mikeneil798 8 месяцев назад
My BRUTHAS.... PLEASE PLEASE help me understand this!!! I'm a MALE 55 year old OG Marvel fan. Marvel Studios advertised this movie as NOT for me plus it's DIRECTOR said it's a FEMALE Empowerment movie. FINE, I didn't go support it. HOWEVER, I'm being called a Toxic Misogynistic Male ANTI FEMITE for NOT paying to see a movie they told me was NOT the Targeted Audience for!!!! I have a headache😮 excuse me......
@Cofcos
@Cofcos 8 месяцев назад
It's a fantasy they weave for themselves as their dream dies; ignore them. Or better yet, point and laugh which I assume is why you're here.
@RadicalValkyrie
@RadicalValkyrie 8 месяцев назад
Exactly! The female fans that were already fans of marvel and all these IPs over the last few decades, were no different to the male audience and fans. They also love watching male comic book heroes. You don't want to watch a snarky ALL female cast of characters. So, if male fans are being told it's not for them, its not for the female fans either. The pandering to "female fans" and forced "this is what you want" is insulting. The actual female fans are ignored along with the main male audience. We all want source material and good story.
@Madanth0ny
@Madanth0ny 8 месяцев назад
Source material now is garbage also I’d say any source material before 2012 is canon
@teastrainer3604
@teastrainer3604 8 месяцев назад
There is no excuse for a major company to engage in intuitive marketing in 2023. Market research is a highly developed practice, and you can easily find out whether women really will come to see movies like this. Or whether there really is a market for woke comic books.
@Drixenol86
@Drixenol86 8 месяцев назад
We want the Marvel before Disney bought the rights.!
@lukewalken1316
@lukewalken1316 8 месяцев назад
But they don't insult or call the Female Fans names
@RadicalValkyrie
@RadicalValkyrie 8 месяцев назад
@@lukewalken1316 Yes, you are completely right. There are a number of female fans who hate what has been happening. It just doesn't fit the narrative to attack them directly though. But it is indirect name calling, as they're grouped with the guys automatically (because they are assumed to not exist, and women only want to watch "Girl Bosses"), meaning they're are also feeling the irritation of the 'living in your mom's basement', neck beards, toxic fans name calling etc etc.
@fortcastellan1730
@fortcastellan1730 8 месяцев назад
"Put a dude in it and make him a toy!" -- Ike Perlmutter.
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
A tried and true approach, lol
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 8 месяцев назад
It is kinda nice to see the Marvel Studios movies now finally being accurate to the Marvel Comics that also killed their respective industry. Oh well. Guess the 2020s will now be the Video Game/Toy Movie era.
@theghostofmaximumvolume3414
@theghostofmaximumvolume3414 8 месяцев назад
So it will be even more sophomoric and juvenile? I can't wait for edgy entertainment to fill the void after that phase ends.
@ker7743
@ker7743 8 месяцев назад
One Piece paved way for more anime live adaptations to come .
@Mucknuggle
@Mucknuggle 8 месяцев назад
Seeing The Witcher or The lord of the Ring Series they´re allready failing there too.
@stevieboyXI
@stevieboyXI 8 месяцев назад
Sad thing is so many people called them trying to force the same characters that sunk the comics into the movie and how it would tank the MCU.
@Crichjo32
@Crichjo32 8 месяцев назад
I want to see the rise of independent artists, who make entertainment with passion and without ESG scores and corporate management.
@sblinder1978
@sblinder1978 8 месяцев назад
The best part of Marvels was when she said "IT'S MARVIN' TIME" and marved all over those guys
@freeamericanthinker558
@freeamericanthinker558 8 месяцев назад
That sounds gross.
@ShinkuGouki
@ShinkuGouki 8 месяцев назад
She should've said "It's strong,boss babe time"
@misugita
@misugita 8 месяцев назад
LOL. It was "marvel-ous".
@benjaminmontag6540
@benjaminmontag6540 8 месяцев назад
The fault lies with whomever decided to make the show Agent Carter into Mary Tyler Moore meets the X-Files. After her one-shot I expected to see Peggy Carter and the Howling Commandos hunting down Hydra sleepers in post war Europe.
@RoryMitchell00
@RoryMitchell00 8 месяцев назад
Let me share with you a tale of two movies: First let's consider Iron Man, since it kicked off the most successful film franchise in the history of the world. Iron Man had a bunch of cool gadgets and tech, scenes of soldering and welding, plus it was full of futuristic engineering and military equipment, and it contained a whole bunch of expensive cars. Now let's look at this most recent bomb. The Marvels had a long song and dance number, a slumber party where the main characters have a lot of "wacky fun", multiple scenes of talking about feelings, and it contained a whole bunch of "cute" cats. Which of these two movies do *you* think will attract the male demographic more?
@ChristianMcAngus
@ChristianMcAngus 8 месяцев назад
Issues of DEI aside, it seems Disney was trying very, very hard to make this movie appealing to girls and women. You can see their reasoning here. "We have the male audience, now we just need to get the female audience. Don't worry about men. Those dumbies will show up no matter what we put on the screen".
@wolfmerc11
@wolfmerc11 8 месяцев назад
Well according to woketards, the latter. Because they actually believe that ALL males are scared of being called sexist, racist, etc.
@wolfmerc11
@wolfmerc11 8 месяцев назад
@@ChristianMcAngus Yes but what they were too stupid to see is that they ALREADY HAD the female audience. It's been pointed out in this video and others, that there was already a strong female audience in place for these male appealing properties.
@RoryMitchell00
@RoryMitchell00 8 месяцев назад
@@ChristianMcAngus Yeah, they took men for granted. Just like MOTU with She-Ra. Or Star Wars with the sequel trilogy and all the D+ shows. Or Rings of Power. Wheel of Time. Star Trek. Dr. Who. Etc etc etc. Whether it's DEI or the hubris/greed of Hollywood, the two can coexist side-by-side just fine to destroy anything they touch.
@DocMicrowave
@DocMicrowave 8 месяцев назад
Hmmm, tough one. ama gonna go with the first movie.
@rayyf69
@rayyf69 8 месяцев назад
Why do we allow them to call it DEI, we should be calling it DIE.
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
DEI = God, in Latin.
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 8 месяцев назад
THEY call it DEI because they know that DIE would address the elephant in the living room, AND must pretend that their suicidal ways are the path to glory when it's instead leading them right towards the cliff.
@alsadiyarto
@alsadiyarto 8 месяцев назад
The only way to fight them as a customer is to boycott their product (movies, series, etc) no matter what.
@jimmyboydonald6578
@jimmyboydonald6578 8 месяцев назад
If the MCU became as great and successful as it used to be it would be one of the most remarkable and amazing comebacks of all.
@lukewalken1316
@lukewalken1316 8 месяцев назад
​@@jimmyboydonald6578Step 1 : get rid of that Male Feminist Feige
@Crichjo32
@Crichjo32 8 месяцев назад
I love that the Deadline article says it's not because of "superhero fatigue" and then basically rephrases superhero fatigue as the reason.
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, kind of - which would be the message being sent out from Disney's PR dept. Note how all industry connected repeat that message in lockstep.
@Crichjo32
@Crichjo32 8 месяцев назад
@@MidnightsEdge oh yes, they all parrot the same thing.
@grog3514
@grog3514 8 месяцев назад
​@@Crichjo32agreed, they all parrot the same thing.
@Crichjo32
@Crichjo32 8 месяцев назад
@@grog3514 I see what you did there ;)
@trevorthornley8835
@trevorthornley8835 8 месяцев назад
"I was hitting you. Not punching you."
@jamememes4114
@jamememes4114 8 месяцев назад
ESG is effectively the One Ring of our times
@JoesGeekShow
@JoesGeekShow 8 месяцев назад
A saying that will always stand: When you try to please everybody you will end up pleasing nobody.
@Invidente7
@Invidente7 8 месяцев назад
So this is how the MCU fell, not with a bang but with a whimper.
@trolld405
@trolld405 8 месяцев назад
more like a splat....
@Playitstraight44
@Playitstraight44 8 месяцев назад
If you look at the history of this genre and how little respect Hollywood has ever had for it, even during its best moments, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that when this property is handed over to a bunch of elitists at Disney, it would be warped to fit their narrative and remove everything they deem "unattractive" to their tastes. This is pure and simple sabotage and no one in Hollywood is going to miss this genre if it goes away because very few ever found value in its guiding principles.
@baronessboomer3865
@baronessboomer3865 8 месяцев назад
I've learned more from your deep dive videos on this subject than from the dozens of excellent, informative videos I've watched regarding the downfall of what has become the utterly loathsome M-She-U. You clearly & succinctly unmask the true coalition of villains in the insidious & evil nightmare of ESG that is scheming to destroy our culture, & gain ultimate power over all of us. I am grateful to you, & to all of the many excellent RU-vidrs who are working so hard to sound the alarm (and to try to reach the Normies who will never learn the truth from the lying, lamestream media). I appreciate all of you,, & I thank you for another outstanding video. 👍
@jacobtong8303
@jacobtong8303 8 месяцев назад
I never knew about Blackrock. That's disturbing. Thanks for all your hard work on exposing things behind the scenes - pun intended.
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words! Glad to be of help, and to have you here.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
@@jacobtong8303 George Soros is the "open activist form" of Blackrock ... buying the elections for/funding DAs and funding certain protests.
@Factory_Edge
@Factory_Edge 8 месяцев назад
Can't like this comment enough. Can't sit through a MEtM, but I will watch and rewatch the deep dive videos over and over. Always concise and smart, proving again that brevity is the soul of wit.
@sirchi8731
@sirchi8731 8 месяцев назад
​@@MidnightsEdgedon't forget to add what Marvel did to the African American community with the stereotypes and feminism put in Black Panther 1 and 2. Black men have also checked out of Marvel...except for some of the shills. Chris Gore said it perfectly
@kadourimdou43
@kadourimdou43 8 месяцев назад
They had the answer in Ghostbusters 2016, and critics were being Gas Lit back then.
@wolfmerc11
@wolfmerc11 8 месяцев назад
Would a creative committee make any difference, if they're still dependent on BlackRock's money?
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
Yes. Even if more diversity was forced, it could have bone in more organic ways, and the lack of interconnectivivty and aimless projects has nothing to do with Blackrock, that's all Feige not being able to hack what the Committee helped him with before.
@wolfmerc11
@wolfmerc11 8 месяцев назад
​@MidnightsEdge Interesting. I always assumed blackrock were championing every single thing disney were doing, because of that clip of the CEO saying they wanted to "force" the DEI standards.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 8 месяцев назад
The problem with the concept of Superhero Fatigue is that in a roundabout way it admits Superhero movies are a trend, and people just went along with it than actually enjoying them as movies... it was never about quality but chasing what everybody was doing
@teastrainer3604
@teastrainer3604 8 месяцев назад
The mainstream media will list ten phony "reasons" why this happened and will take great pains never to mention the real reason -- wokeness.
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 8 месяцев назад
A broken clock is right twice a day and it’s pretty obvious that normies are checking out of the genre and Hollywood is sick of making these movies. Where it goes wrong is HOW superhero fatigue came about, which South Park beautifully coined the slogan for everyone.
@ShoMorphias
@ShoMorphias 8 месяцев назад
One thing they're probably missing is that likely nearly every woman was going with a male, whether BF, husband, kid, brother, whatever. Male-centric movies pulling in the added tickets. Women w/women are generally just going to pick something else. It's not like the box office is a solo endeavor for people. They thought they were going to get a 'girlfriends' movie in addition to guys and failed abysmally. I think both sides would also tend to sneer at this as a date movie in general.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE 8 месяцев назад
Its amazing to watch such unbridled success just be thrown out the window. Fascinating.
@420Pugilist
@420Pugilist 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video explaining exactly everything wrong with Disney & it's failing franchises. Larry Fink is literally a real life narcissistic evil Bond villain. Everyday people of the world NEED to be aware of his existence & informed about who he is & the dystopian nightmare vision he wants for humanity. Who the f**k does he think he is???
@stormryder4305
@stormryder4305 8 месяцев назад
Larry Fink is a gay. He loves nothing, but crossdressing dudes who pretend to be women. I bet he is licking his lips every time he see Dylan Mulvaney. But that's progressive.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim 8 месяцев назад
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
@GentleButBrave
@GentleButBrave 8 месяцев назад
DEI needs to mean ' Diversity Excludes Inclusiveness,' going forward from now.
@AdamWeisshaupt
@AdamWeisshaupt 8 месяцев назад
Larry Fink is a clown. Critical race theory or the thinking that an overrepresentation of races is discrimination is why the Nazis thought Jews like him are evil. It is pretty normal that if you dont change the education system, so that every race have equal results, you have different representations. Because job are chosen by merit (school results). In Weimar REpublic (GErmany) those were the Jewish people that were overrepresented because they had the better educational results. I quote the representation: ". About 16% of the members of this corporate network were of Jewish background. At the center of the network (big linkers) about 25% were Jewish. The percentage of Jews in the general population was less than 1% in 1914." www.uni-trier.de/fileadmin/fb4/prof/SOZ/APO/WindolfMS577June10.pdf
@superomegaprimemk2
@superomegaprimemk2 8 месяцев назад
A rich idiot who very much out of touch with reality, much like everyone in charge of Disney right now!!
@clancydowrca
@clancydowrca 8 месяцев назад
I will never be forced into a behavior that i dont want to do.
@stevieboyXI
@stevieboyXI 8 месяцев назад
The creative committee thing explains why the MCU has gone to shit so fast. I think we could all see things starting to dip post Endgame but it's been alarming how fast it's happened.
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
Indeed. If the Committee were still in place, this would never have happened, certainly not this fast.
@ssl3546
@ssl3546 8 месяцев назад
@@MidnightsEdge The committee fought against James Gunn's ideas and those are the only three movies I cared about so...
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
@@ssl3546 See, this is where you've gotten it all wrong. The Committee did never "fight" his ideas, that is disinformation right there - they CHALLENGED his ideas that conventionally do not fit the space opera genre, like a period soundtrack. They asked him to convince them why his ideas would work, and how they would make the movie better and thus more moeny. You know what happened next? He convinced them, and so they let him have is way! He wasn't blocked, what he wanted to put in the movie, actually IS IN THE MOVIE! By challening Gunn to prove WHY his idea would work, and them letting him carry it out once convinced; the Committee did exactly what it was supposed to do. That is how checks and balances work.
@user-yq9im9dk9z
@user-yq9im9dk9z 8 месяцев назад
​@@MidnightsEdgecan you explain how this committee had this much power over directors, while similar group at Star Wars was seemingly ignored from the start?
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
@@user-yq9im9dk9z Yes, easily. The Marvel Creative Committee was installed by Ige Perlmutter with a very specific purpose in mind, and he decreed that Kevin Feige abide by it's rulings; while the dirctors in turn deeferred to Feige. Kathleen Kennedy meanwhile, empowered filmmakers over her storygroup, often leaving it to rationalize what the directors were doing, and retroactively making that fit with comics and more.
@minxbade
@minxbade 8 месяцев назад
I don't know why other women didn't go see this movie but I an tell you why I didn't. I don't care for arrogant women leads or the idea of injecting characters based on a demographic identifier that is somehow progressive. I want to see a manly muscle bound super hero, Henry Cavil perhaps, and not this trashy made for DVD crap they are trying to sell. MCU kilt the only character I cared about, Thor, by making him a pathetic wimp and then trying to insult me with a half nude scene as though that would make up for his lack of balls. I'm not wasting my time or money on this. When you give me something I want to see I'll pay to see it. Until then I'm out.
@ZombieGrandpa
@ZombieGrandpa 8 месяцев назад
I don't think it was rejected, so much as it was ignored, lol. Much of what Disney does for profit is ignored these days.
@phenomenal-xv4ey
@phenomenal-xv4ey 8 месяцев назад
Its going to take several failures on the level of The Marvels...perhaps an entire collapse of Disney for things to change. With all the power backing on the DEI/ESG side, this is like a David vs Goliath battle.
@stevieboyXI
@stevieboyXI 8 месяцев назад
Honestly I think Disney are screwed.
@averybaumann
@averybaumann 8 месяцев назад
Disney has faked trailers, including thinks they KNOW are wanted by fans when they are well aware those things won't be in the movie. So now, no matter what they say, no matter wh as t the trailers show or hint about the public is well aware every release is hot woke garbage made by unqualified hacks hired for the color of their skin or what is between their legs. Even with disney about to default there is no sign of them changing even though no one in their right mind would invest in another esg feature. The company is corrupt from top to bottom and nothing short of getting rid of every single person and starting from scratch will ever fix the problem so it's possible Disney REQUIRES a total dissolution. Like a spider or mold infested building perhaps shutting the entire company down and selling the parks and film catalog to someone else might save the IP's nothing less.
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 8 месяцев назад
If "cape movies" are doomed due to "superhero fatigue" then what are Marvel going to do with their time?
@mlmaronilla
@mlmaronilla 8 месяцев назад
@@sillypuppy5940 Learn how to make Nick Fury White. Put a chick on him. Make him great.
@osobad1127
@osobad1127 8 месяцев назад
If anyone was gonna kill the MCU it had to be Brie Larson 😂
@keymo9359
@keymo9359 8 месяцев назад
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't all this woke feminist crap start with her in the mcu? i remember everything being fine until captain marvel.
@ShinkuGouki
@ShinkuGouki 8 месяцев назад
"It wasn't made for you" 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@spacerx
@spacerx 8 месяцев назад
They could still cast Rachel Zegler for something...
@inkermoy
@inkermoy 8 месяцев назад
@@keymo9359 Pretty much. It was prepping the next phase post-Endgame. Endgame had their cringe girlboss moment in the final battle, along with emasculating the Hulk, and making an embarrassing Fat Thor. If you know comics, Captain Marvel is part of the "All New All Different" Marvel that started nearly 10 years ago, making the heroes into mantles that can be handed off to a new group of younger, more diverse people. Thing is, 99% of new characters were badly written by diversity hires who had no concept of what makes a superhero comic a superhero comic. So they wrote female superhero books like it's all silly-billy wacky fun, and this is what you get in The Marvels.
@Chillzar.0
@Chillzar.0 8 месяцев назад
I knew from the beginning she’d kill the entire thing somehow
@IMAMONGUS
@IMAMONGUS 8 месяцев назад
I have been sending a link to your What is ESG video to people who don't understand what is going on with Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm. I think this one is going to be another educational video to send to people who mention superhero fatigue to explain The Marvels. Thank you Andre!
@dpfghela
@dpfghela 8 месяцев назад
All this BS is why I’ve cancelled my Disney plus subscription. Sooner Disney goes bust the sooner the learning and healing can begin.
@commonsense3921
@commonsense3921 8 месяцев назад
Disney not going bust and your lifetime nor your kids lifetime.
@dpfghela
@dpfghela 8 месяцев назад
@@commonsense3921 sadly, I think you’re right.
@DonDonP1
@DonDonP1 8 месяцев назад
Well, I have already found my #1 Disney+ show: “High School Musical: The Musical: The Series.” Its final season is my #2 streaming show of 2023 after my #1 “Power Rangers Cosmic Fury."
@Shoyro
@Shoyro 8 месяцев назад
Great video like usual, and Andre, that was so brilliant with how you addressed the whole "Committee" fiasco.
@mariokarter13
@mariokarter13 8 месяцев назад
"I used to think my life was a tragedy, now I realize it's a committee."
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
@@mariokarter13 "Life is unfair ... because if it werent you would deserve all the bad stuff happening to you." - Babylon 5
@DemonicRemption
@DemonicRemption 8 месяцев назад
@Shoyro I for one don't blame Andre since he's British. It's his accent.
@garymathis1042
@garymathis1042 8 месяцев назад
ESG = Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street.
@ecmorgan69
@ecmorgan69 8 месяцев назад
I love how Critical Drinker created a meme with “The Message”. I can’t be the only one who hears “The Message” in Drinker’s voice in his head. 😂
@greatnesstcb2411
@greatnesstcb2411 8 месяцев назад
Actually people were complaining about this issue with over exposure from the moment they started putting shows on Disney+ Same with Star Wars. But the real issue is the pandering and agenda driving and the politics that seems to be all over entertainment media. People want to enjoy good cinema. Not be lectured to under the pretense of entertainment
@rons3634
@rons3634 8 месяцев назад
No point in reinstituting the committee. They would just stuff it with DEI and ESG people and it would be a rubber stamp for whatever Fiege wanted to do anyway. There would be no point.
@ryandodrill6904
@ryandodrill6904 8 месяцев назад
It's always amazing listening to the ESG people and seeing how much they hate the idea that anyone could have a different opinion than themselves.
@Vickyvee97
@Vickyvee97 8 месяцев назад
We don't want to see "B" and "C" list Marvel characters as the stars of the movie, take note Disney! We want to see Iron man, Blade, Ghost Rider, The Punisher, Spiderman, The Hulk, The fantastic Four, The Wolverine, Thor, etc and not the mediocre characters. Just use the "A" listers as a vehicle to see if the B and C characters would work to start with.
@reikun86
@reikun86 8 месяцев назад
They have the X-Men. Why they haven’t unleashed them is beyond me.
@zanthonyhill8818
@zanthonyhill8818 8 месяцев назад
That all sounds good,but there's one little problem with your list..... Iron man,Blade,The Punisher,Spiderman,the Hulk,Thor,Wolverine,Fantastic Four..... They're ALL MALE. Ten out of the 12 characters you mentioned are all WHITE men. The only "diverse" ones are Blade and Sue from the Fantastic Four. They'd rather lose money on every film from here on out than have a white man in a strong lead role.
@frankspeakmore7104
@frankspeakmore7104 8 месяцев назад
@@zanthonyhill8818 Yet it is so stupid, they make films knowing that they are going to fail.
@greatnesstcb2411
@greatnesstcb2411 8 месяцев назад
They built the MCU with those B and C characters. The MCU made Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk etc into A-list characters.
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 8 месяцев назад
No Vicki go woke go broke. Pz marvel
@tomasbarborak7026
@tomasbarborak7026 8 месяцев назад
Superhero fatigue sure is real, but it's not a viewer problem, rather a writer one.
@patrickw123
@patrickw123 8 месяцев назад
“televised Pravda” love it!!!😂😂😂
@ShadowStoryteller
@ShadowStoryteller 8 месяцев назад
Disney Marvel: We Don't Understand! Women, we did *ALL* of this...For *YOU* !!! Pre-MSheU Fans: And yet...to quote James Bond from Tomorrow Never Dies..."You forgot the first rule of Mass Media: Give The People WHAT THEY WANT!!!"
@johnenigma8506
@johnenigma8506 8 месяцев назад
Also, If I never heard the term "girl boss" ever again. I would be happy.
@misugita
@misugita 8 месяцев назад
There was a female executive at my work who had been promoted _way_ past her competence. It did not help that she was arrogant and had the personality of a suppository. Anyway, she managed to piss off some important clients, and it was so bad that she was not just demoted, she was let go. I overheard two of her former subordinates discussing her sudden ignominious departure, and how difficult she had been to work with and one of them used the phrase, "She girl bossed too close to the sun." It struck me as so funny I had to duck into the restroom because I could not stop laughing. 🤣
@seekingclarity3600
@seekingclarity3600 8 месяцев назад
Can we add "Boss Babe" to the remove from the idiom list?
@johnenigma8506
@johnenigma8506 8 месяцев назад
@@seekingclarity3600 That too. Leadership shouldn't have any modifications. A leader is a leader. Period.
@armyfirefighter
@armyfirefighter 8 месяцев назад
Isn't it interesting that the same Hollywood absolutely hates the Marvel committee for holding back the creatives and how bad a group is for a universe -- but in the same breath they love the Lucasfilm Story Group for being a committee that directs all stories for a universe. Or is it simply that they love "the message" that we are all sick of....
@DamienDrake2940
@DamienDrake2940 8 месяцев назад
The secret to MCU's universal appeal was that it toned down the more out there concepts found in comics. They told the same compelling stories and moral dilemmas in believable, realistic settings. Even when they got into space and magic, they didn't use any concepts that hadn't been around for decades.
@SEKreiver
@SEKreiver 8 месяцев назад
What "more out there concepts" are you referring to?
@neurohack9038
@neurohack9038 8 месяцев назад
@@SEKreiverMultiverse crap.
@From-North-Jersey
@From-North-Jersey 8 месяцев назад
@@neurohack9038 Like the america chavez movie called "Dr Strange and the something of madness"? It's funny how they didn't entitle it "America Chavez and her two lesbimoms do the multiverse" because they know america chavez is the second least popular character in marvel print comics after captain marvel. That doesn't stop the women and limp wristed lisping men who run Marvel these days from giving Carl Manvers captain marvel 8 reboots of her own book that nobody enjoys outside of the parakeet and parrot communities. Nor did it stop them from giving america chavez 5 print reboots that lost money when historically new male characters get one solo run and if it fails they try and push them into a team book and if that fails to endear the character to the fans buying the books, they get stuck in a file of failures to be forgotten.
@deplorabledave1048
@deplorabledave1048 8 месяцев назад
Force behaviours. Larry is EVIL!!!!!
@johnenigma8506
@johnenigma8506 8 месяцев назад
Every time I see the name Scott Mendleson, I think of the character from South Park.
@F0re5tMan
@F0re5tMan 8 месяцев назад
My uncle saw a video that details another reason why Kennedy is still there: there's a clause in her contract that basically states that no matter how incompetent she proves herself to be, she cannot be fired on that basis, and instead can only be fired if she crosses a major moral line.
@badddkattt
@badddkattt 8 месяцев назад
But Disney didn’t have to renew her contract.
@Sjono
@Sjono 8 месяцев назад
How does Marvel see how identity politics killed its comics sales and think it was a good idea to apply it to movies
@robo9439
@robo9439 8 месяцев назад
The do, but Its because the most powerful corporation in the world (Black Rock) is forcing this woke ideology agenda and DEI,. It's the elites trying to social engineer society to except a globalist world view. They hate the traditional society, that most of us grew up with.
@falguard
@falguard 8 месяцев назад
Because they didn't see, and were probably lied to. After all, it was Marvel Comics' own party line that Ms. Marvel and Capt. Marvel were SO POPULAR, contrary to what evidence or reality told them.
@Oudeis000
@Oudeis000 8 месяцев назад
Though free speech (and other precious freedoms) is becoming more restricted, I'm grateful that social media allowed the voices of insightful laymen like you, Nerdrotic, Critical Drinker, Little Platoon, etc. to gain an audience and provide the truthful scrutiny and analysis that is lacking in mainstream media. I pray that there will always be access to such helpful insights.
@MrPrice2U
@MrPrice2U 8 месяцев назад
Andre, thanks for looking behind the curtain! Most people have no idea how rigged the system is.
@frankspeakmore7104
@frankspeakmore7104 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate your more thoughtful and forensic breakdown of this disastrous film. Very slightly off topic but here in the UK, to increase diversity in occupations such as doctors in the medical profession, and commercial pilots, there is a push to lower the entrance exam pass marks because it's believed they are too high for some groups to achieve.
@myretronation
@myretronation 8 месяцев назад
Sounds like a recipe for disaster :( Same thing here in Malaysia except in the opposite direction... have different standards altogether for the ethnic majority, keeping minorities out
@Mandoboyband
@Mandoboyband 8 месяцев назад
Well in some states in the US, they’re even doing away with maths and sciences. Doomed, I tell you.
@TheJcjonesacp
@TheJcjonesacp 8 месяцев назад
@@Mandoboybandthat is not the way to improve educational scores, the way to do it is to teach each student as they need it, you can’t force a student to learn a certain way, they aren’t toys, they aren’t robots they each need specialized attention to learn
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
@@TheJcjonesacp BS ... math and science are based upon LOGIC ... and that is easy to learn. You excuse "not learning NECESSARY SKILLS" because you dont want to hurt feelings. That is STUPID. Think about this one: *_"We have to decide between what is RIGHT and what is EASY!"_* [Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, movie] ... only IDIOTS think that "life needs to be soft" ... LIFE IS HARD and skipping the hard part is not good for human development.
@user-rv9hp6bo3y
@user-rv9hp6bo3y 8 месяцев назад
Groups like white people? Because in most cases because Asians are very high scoring in these careers standards often have to be lowered for white people lol.
@Harbinger359
@Harbinger359 8 месяцев назад
That interlude about the Marvel Creative Comedy was pretty comedic; I actually felt the same way, I just didn't say anything until now!
@jimmerhardy
@jimmerhardy 8 месяцев назад
Best, most honest analysis around. Disney-Marvel executive required viewing.
@Thandar324
@Thandar324 8 месяцев назад
This editorial tells it like it is. Great video.
@Maverick626
@Maverick626 8 месяцев назад
kathleen cartman just puts the cherry on top of this visuals
@Templar412
@Templar412 8 месяцев назад
Warner should also consider installing a creative committee for DC. It would work well to help James Gunn with all the projects, and it would also give him a reason to get rid of Tom King and that woman that wrote birds of Prey and The Flash. After this weekend and with these numbers, compounded with the fact that Nelson Peltz is coming for Iger with Pearlmutter’s help. Should Kevin Fiege be terrified? Pearlmutter is someone that does hold a grudge, and has Fiege even realized that the creative committee was there for a reason? Great video as always Mr. Andre you are detailed and informative, it makes eager for the next one.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
With superhero movies I would have converted all the powers of the heros into a pen-and-paper ROLEPLAYING GAME ... and then have the writers roleplay the adventure. This would keep the powers CONSISTENT and "not forgotten" ... and the low-powered heros are "kept honest" in comparison to the really high powered ones. Black Widow and Hawkeye arent as powerful as the rest of the Avengers for example ... and need to be shown accordingly. The greatest danger of sequels is LUDICROUS SPEED ... which was a lesson that should have been learned in the 80s, when sequels of action movies became completely ridiculous, because sequels "had to" have a bigger budget and more special effects compared to the previous one. This made them ridiculous, ultimately parodied by the "bloodiest movie ever" scene in Hot Shots 2. But no one remembers ...
@ssl3546
@ssl3546 8 месяцев назад
James Gunn is perfectly capable of knowing good movies, he's a real producer not like fiege who was rejected by film school FIVE TIMES. a certain austrian painter only failed to get into art school twice.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 8 месяцев назад
​@@ssl3546Damn, I'm stupid. I really really thought Kevin Feige was the svengali behind the MCU.
@mikepowell8611
@mikepowell8611 8 месяцев назад
These corporations have a duty to their share holders. D.E.I. is not amongst those duties. If I was a share holder I would sue. They are not acting like Capitalists.
@chrisaguilera1564
@chrisaguilera1564 8 месяцев назад
Chicks like chick flicks. Its not something wokesters will ever admit but Barbie proved it. 😂
@AnneONeemass
@AnneONeemass 8 месяцев назад
I'm a chick. I HATE chick flicks. I prefer action, superhero, SciFi, game-based, comic-based, etc., films.
@AnneONeemass
@AnneONeemass 8 месяцев назад
I also hate anything Barbie.
@jackmars931
@jackmars931 8 месяцев назад
The best part of the Marvels was when all 3 of them yelled, in unison "It's Marvelin' time" and then proceeded to just Marvel all over the place.
@Redpoppy80
@Redpoppy80 8 месяцев назад
What I like about Superheroes: Cool action scenes, overcoming the odds, over the top villains, hero stories, interesting worlds, boys being boys, epic stakes, the heroes being broken to get back up again. Where is any of that in the MCU?
@dannypope1860
@dannypope1860 8 месяцев назад
It has nothing to do with “superhero fatigue”… it’s simply wokeness fatigue. They literally attack men, and constantly race and gender swap beloved characters. Men constantly talked down to, insulted, and portrayed as either foolish, incompetent, toxic, or all of the above. Plus, they have made a female version of every single male superhero… female Thor, female Ironman, female hulk, female Hawkeye, female Captain America, female Loki, female black panther, etc. Yet every traditional female character is never given a male counterpart. It’s simply anti-male sexism.
@Chillzar.0
@Chillzar.0 8 месяцев назад
It’s sad how quickly it started happening after Stan lee died too
@lukewalken1316
@lukewalken1316 8 месяцев назад
Misandry to the tenth power. That why I despise Feige and Iger more than I do Kennedy
@alex29443
@alex29443 8 месяцев назад
Just sexism in general; they hate feminine women almost as much as masculine men.
@Lopsid96
@Lopsid96 8 месяцев назад
Won't someone think of the men ? :(
@alex29443
@alex29443 8 месяцев назад
@@Lopsid96 apparently not
@grog3514
@grog3514 8 месяцев назад
That's why i love midnight's edge. This is one of the few places that does honest journalism. It's a fascinating topic even if it's also terrifying.
@levelxtremedude4764
@levelxtremedude4764 8 месяцев назад
This really explains a lot. So ESG is the main reason why Disney fell off into identity politics and they (Disney) didn’t even bother to push back…wow sad reality we live in. Like literally who cares about ESG if it means losing your customers but you know what you reap what you sow. Sad just sad.
@danieldennis6313
@danieldennis6313 8 месяцев назад
The question remains, will the reinstatement of a Marvel Creative Committee be one of Old to rein in questionable decisions or will it be a new ESG driven committee?
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 8 месяцев назад
"Superhero fatigue." While Spider-Man Across The Spiderverse and the PlayStation 5 Spider-Man 2 video game broke records for their successes (both of which are super woke themselves, mind you.) They're too incompetent to even lie properly.
@ShinkuGouki
@ShinkuGouki 8 месяцев назад
Yeah it's really "Feminism Fatigue"
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
4:30 As a material scientist I have to chime in here with a correction: *ONLY IRON "rusts" ... every other metal "corrodes"!*
@MrS-pe6sd
@MrS-pe6sd 8 месяцев назад
Love watching this “forced behavior” nonsense blow up in his face. Who are these assholes to forced our behavior? The entitlement is astounding. He is who we should be revolting against
@lukewalken1316
@lukewalken1316 8 месяцев назад
The illuminati?
@dangermartin69
@dangermartin69 8 месяцев назад
Small hats.
@fletcherwilliams5947
@fletcherwilliams5947 8 месяцев назад
Andre dropping more facts, with receipts! and blowing away the main stream media narrative. 👏🏾
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 8 месяцев назад
"You have to force behaviors ..." How is this not the agenda of a supervillain?
@MidnightsEdge
@MidnightsEdge 8 месяцев назад
Well, it is.
@jenniferhanses
@jenniferhanses 8 месяцев назад
Oh. Committee. I thought it was Marvel Creative Comity. Which I thought was weird, because who pulls comity out of their vocabulary for the name of a group. But you know, businesses going to have buzzwords.
@henrykim921
@henrykim921 8 месяцев назад
It's too late. The brand and the trust in it were destroyed. Betrayal is a bitter pill to swallow for many, especially without a sincere apology.
@rdtradecraft
@rdtradecraft 8 месяцев назад
The first step in fixing a problem is to look it in the face and call it by name unabashedly and unflinchingly. Only then will Disney have any hope of a) writing and telling stories is sufficient quality to make money, b) get free of the likes of Larry "force behaviors" Fink, and c)put the necessary safeguards in place to keep it all from happening again. I hold little hope that these things will come to pass.
@BoSmith7045
@BoSmith7045 8 месяцев назад
Now if only South Park would let the normies know who Larry Fink is.
@ME-yb2lm
@ME-yb2lm 8 месяцев назад
Yup, I may not be able defend someone like "Ike" as a person, but there's no denying that he was quite successful at directing Kevin and the MCU where it needed to be.
@WillieBloom
@WillieBloom 8 месяцев назад
I am pleased Andre that you took a moment to expound the claim of “superhero movie fatigue”. I have commented on this in the livestream chats for as long as the words have been uttered. There is no “superhero movie fatigue”. The fatigue - and there is a fatigue - is from bad movies. Poor writing, disjointed stories, unappealing characters, “the message”, DIE activism. People want to be entertained. When a good movie comes along the public goes to see it. It is evidentially so. Hollywood has been entertaining people for over a century. They have the recipe to the secret sauce and it’s an open secret. The problem is that some of the dinner guests are objecting to the ingredients so the head chefs and the kitchen staff are bending over backwards to accommodate a few of the complainers. What the chefs and the kitchen staff need to do is say “this is a steak house. If you want vegetarian raw food then eat somewhere else or open your own restaurant”. Yea, vegans annoy me because we all know that veganism is a part of the Venn diagram of radical leftism. Who knew that antisemitism and pro-Hamas fanaticism would be included in the diagram? My predictions are usually pretty good but I didn’t see that one coming, Anyway, that’s why I used that analogy, and you did say “secret sauce” Andre. I just had to work with it. I can tell you first hand from the inside of a large employer that DEI has on the DL been changed to D&I. All traces of DEI have been scrubbed. ESG is still a thing but someone finally got wise to what the E in DEI actually means. I work for a company that is in the business of making money for the shareholders, not a charity. Then there’s the thorny issue of what the E means in the employer-employee relationship. So, yeah, the E is scrubbed. ESG is not going to go away. That’s my low-odds prediction. My second prediction is that ESG will be watered down as time goes on. The ink on the page with dry and age and will eventually not be the document it once was. It will eventually be one of those paper tigers that roam the halls of many corporations, organizations and bureaucracies. It’s the animal that starts strong out of the gate and runs itself tired and eventually into the ground. That’s why I’m not afraid of paper tigers. ESG and DEI started strong out of the gate but that was back in the Old Economy. The New Economy demands runs on new rules and that’s what corporate boards all around the world are beginning to realize. “We can’t both generate profits AND be SJWä!”. That right, you rich f**ks. Stay rich or be an SJW. You may not do both. You have to choose. Because if you do not choose, we will choose for you. Exhibit A: The Walt Disney Company
@pdzombie1906
@pdzombie1906 8 месяцев назад
My questuon would be: If Marvel made this woke movies actually good, would people go and see them? That's the thing, and that's why they're sticking to "put a chick on it and...", because by trial an error they're trying to come up with a formula to have their cake and eat it too... It's too bad they're running out of time and the MCU has been declared dead!
@jonathankabasele985
@jonathankabasele985 8 месяцев назад
When wokeness stand on the way of entertainment it wont make no profits
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion 8 месяцев назад
I haven't seen it, but I hear Barbie is really woke. People love it though. So a movie can be preachy woke propaganda and be "good." Maybe the problem is Marvel keeps choosing writers based on their activism instead of their writing talent.
@reikun86
@reikun86 8 месяцев назад
@@MakerInMotionI have to admit Barbie is fun, even if the message didn’t really click. I ended up sympathizing with the Kens.
@sterling7
@sterling7 8 месяцев назад
You can make a good movie with "woke" values, but it depends on making an argument for the point-of-view and enlisting the audience's willing sympathy. MCU writers have been far, far too lazy to do that. Too often, they assume that the audience already thinks like they do and will accept that "marginalized" characters are inherently virtuous, without showing them engaging in heroic behavior, and use shoddy shortcuts rather than actual story to back them up. (Thor says he likes Captain Marvel. Ironheart bullies big white guys. Nick Fury denigrates his own accomplishments. Cassie lectures her father, who just bailed her out of prison, and no one contradicts her. And on, and on, and on...)
@loganlove9986
@loganlove9986 8 месяцев назад
I just wanna say . . . This opening is a banger I replay it multiple times before starting any of his videos Anyone else??
@visual1221
@visual1221 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this. One reason, imo, this film failed is it has uninteresting characters who have no arcs [compared to earlier MCU films]. Audiences, even on a subconscious level, go to films for character stories, not CGI action sequences and sporadic comedic jokes. This film was a 2 out of 10; and even Danvers' upgraded suit was a symbolic representation of the film - muted and lifeless.
@lukewalken1316
@lukewalken1316 8 месяцев назад
The comedic jokes ain't even funny
@sovereignomega7003
@sovereignomega7003 8 месяцев назад
Funny thought. The land of Hollywood, where everyone and everything is disposable, thought the success of their work would be permanent. Madness.
@Nabo42
@Nabo42 8 месяцев назад
You know what should really worry everyone about Blackrock Larry's ESG "force them" speech? They're focused on the appearance inclusivity and progress instead of expecting companies to produce high quality products. Ayn Rand might have been right about more than I realized...
@matthewedwards6025
@matthewedwards6025 8 месяцев назад
Excellent analysis. You tied everything together in a satisfying way.
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 8 месяцев назад
I used to think my life was a tragedy, now I realize it's a committee
@atticstattic
@atticstattic 8 месяцев назад
**chef's kiss**
@misugita
@misugita 8 месяцев назад
LOL. Thanks for putting a smile on my face!
@leaiplussize
@leaiplussize 8 месяцев назад
thank you for making this video and breaking down why Marvel failed. I will pass this one to all my friends who are puzzled as to why I don't watch anything Marvel anymore. It seem Iger and Feige made a deal with the Devil, (the DEI) and now they own their soul., and when it came time to pay up, they can't so they suffer, by losing us as fans.
@mysterio7807
@mysterio7807 8 месяцев назад
The funniest thing ever, Ike Perlmutter was right this whole time.
@brettglenn9328
@brettglenn9328 8 месяцев назад
Disney is too "diverse" for it's own good. Another aspect of DEI that has hurt them that I've not seen mention of.......had Disney actually focused on making Kang......look like Kang....as in a Blue Faced armored warrior.......they would not have to be worrying about replacing Johnathan Majors due to his legal issues..... Kang, done correctly, could have been played by a black, white, latin or Asian guy had they actually made him look as he looks in the comics.......but Disney had to force a race card for the character. Now, they have a huge problem......due to their own continued forced DEI decisions.
@thomasb6283
@thomasb6283 8 месяцев назад
My company is doing the same thing. They're surrounding themselves with YES MEN and taking short cuts. Slowly our quality is starting to drop and we're loosing money
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed 8 месяцев назад
What kind of industry do you work in?
@thomasb6283
@thomasb6283 8 месяцев назад
@Smokkedandslammed hospital. They are taking short cuts and making terrible decisions giving nurses and PCAs a hard time. Patient care is lacking. That's why a lot of nurses are quitting.
@randylahey8207
@randylahey8207 8 месяцев назад
I can't imagine being a level-headed woman nowadays and having to watch this tripe. The endless pandering, constant ass kissing, and lack of development is frustrating to watch as a man, so I can only imagine it's infinitely worse for women who just want a good story, good characters and a chance to escape. It's really not that hard...
@keithrobinson5752
@keithrobinson5752 8 месяцев назад
You cannot succeed by chasing a audience which mostly does not exist, whilst going out of your way to give the middle finger to one which does 😮
@jenniferhanses
@jenniferhanses 8 месяцев назад
Okay, why am I, a woman who likes superheros and scifi not seeing the Marvels in the movie theater? 1) I was never a fan of Marvel comics, So they're not a priority to me. I'm more inclined to go see a Batman movie. Batman was my childhood. None of the Marvel characters awaken fond memories in me. Though I'm partial to Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan as Professor X and Magneto. 2) I have a Disney Plus subscription. I've never been someone who needed to see movies in the theater when I can see them eventually. And post-pandemic, the only movies I have considered going to the theater for were Ghostbusters, and the two Spider-Man movies. I didn't actually go out to see them, but I at least thought seriously about it. And then I decided to wait. 3) I used Disney Plus to do some research on Ms. Marvel before the TV series aired by watching the cartoon shorts available there. And I decided she annoyed the crap out of me. It's totally a personality thing, but I didn't watch her TV show and I have no interest in this character. 4) I'm told Ms. Marvel is now going to be the entre into the X-Men, and I don't like her in that position either. I'm not super attached to the X-Men, but they've at least been amusing and I don't want her ruining that experience for me. 5) I don't want to do homework to watch a movie. Disney went with tying their TV shows too tightly to the MCU. Something like Loki, for example, can exist outside of the MCU continuity. If you see it, great. It provides a different perspective. But if you don't see it, it doesn't matter. You can enjoy them MCU, at least as it stands, just fine. So too something like What If? But if you haven't seen WandaVision and Ms. Marvel, you're likely going to be lost watching the Marvels, and that's not the viewing experience I want. So I'm not about to pay extra for it this time around, even though i did watch WandaVision, and I at least have a clue who Ms. Marvel is. 6) The initial marketing showed the movie off as a kind of fun power-swapping action comedy. I liked that aspect of it. Then it suddenly shifted gears to some weirdly aggressive war story and I'm just confused. 7) I don't know what the heck is going on with Nick Fury. I used to like him, and then he got all this weird alien invasion plotline and now he's in space and he's just kind of boring. My favorite movie in the MCU is Captain America: Winter Soldier. Part of the reason it was great was that it had interesting things for Fury and Black Widow to do as supporting cast. They really got to show off their strengths as super spies. This? Doesn't really seem like it. They're just not getting good plots, and Nick Fury seems old and crotchety rather than dedicated and driven. So mostly the characters are a turn off and the writing looks bad, capped by the fact that I can get it for free in 4 to 6 months.
@leahcimwerdna5209
@leahcimwerdna5209 8 месяцев назад
DEI killed it because to Hollywood, diversity means race swapping characters instead of creating new stories, inclusion is just a hot word meaning the exact same thing and equity means we may be shittier but we deserve an S class budget for our F class film. DEI is legit Affimative action under a different name
@DonmenDragon
@DonmenDragon 8 месяцев назад
Larry Fink "You have to force behaviours". Me " You have succeeded Larry well done, you have forced me to see many of my beloved franchises go down in flames".
@portland-182
@portland-182 8 месяцев назад
A tiny audience watches Disney+, and not 100% of that tiny audience watched the Marvel TV projects. In a surprise twist not all of those viewers actually liked those TV projects. Making in an extremely expensive movie sequel to cheap looking 'TV' projects that were not very popular, seems a bone headed move. Then, being a sequel to a well performing but disliked movie, having no attractive characters, having a reputation for stuffing their projects with political ideology, and stories of studio interference post shooting, and the director walking away from the project, sounds like a recipe for failure.
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