The Million Dollar Game: eSports (Part 5/5) 

Yeah but football has been pulling in huge crowds for over 100 years now, Esports have only really reached this in the last 5 or years.

starofcctv94 so just because it has been around longer it should be better?

IvorytheSamoan If you cant hear the condescension in his tone throughout the series, you have major issue.

Ryu Son Oh, for fuck sakes. Where do you morons come from I wonder. A moron factory? Yeah, take soccer numbers, then add them to NBA numbers, then add them to NHL numbers, then add them to NFL numbers, then add them to Olympics numbers, and you still wont have enough to compete with eSports viewership. Now get back to your cave.

TheCoper COper 2.5 billion people watch the Fifa world cup

CronicX007 Honestly he seemed like a very nonchalant person throughout the whole series.

Lol no listens to there my favorite band

CronicX007 he didnt say that

Yeah I unliked 'cause he said that, I tried to give him a chance but this reporter sucks

because imagine dragons are literally shit that's why

Because thats exactly what it was. He didn't know or even looked like he wanted too.

Lol Host kinda ackward But maybe i act that way too...

I wouldn't say fake life. It's more like a gamble since the fame is real. Some of these ex pro players become millionaires using there fame to make wealth. "Imaqtpie" being one of them. Someone like "Faker" and "Apdo" would probably make 10x more than "Imaqtpie" in South Korea. Gaming culture is much more of a thing in South Korea as well.

@henry walter I feel like you are so much swallowed in hate that you would be worse than him irl

Danny L he was just mad cuz the dude from cloud 9 stole his pussy

@henry walter Pure ignorance. Do you even know of the difference between north and south korea?

No one in esports are calling them athletes. I can't be bothered to watch the video again but I think the reporter called them athletes. He was wrong.

***** yes but we are not rewriting them. The only people who think gamers should be considered athletes are gamers b who want to be taken seriously but as long as the majority of the human populace doesn't consider them athletes, the definition will stay the same.

In order for you to play in USA for a American eSports team and you are a foreigner, you need to apply for an athlete VISA. The first pro-gamer with an athlete VISA was issued to Violet, a SC2 programer from Korea.

Bubba Gurt Guys it's trying to communicate. If you really want to complain about the video, why not watch the whole thing? Did you even LISTEN to the speech that was given at the end? "Rather than a marginalized subculture that parents refuse to understand, eSports is the newest part of mainstream culture. And before long, anyone trying to ignore its global significance will be lying in its wake, wondering how computer games took over the world." You're going to be one of those people. Whether you believe it or not. You can reply to this with some shitty comeback if you want, but all that it will do is just prove you're either an idiot or a troll.

I would call it egaming.

***** he wasnt awfull but could have been better :P not meaning to shit on the guy

***** yeah that would have made it alot better imo

x1000000 couldn't agree more.

Woishi I think the point was to make it feel like it was from an outsider's perspective

Woishi I agree! he has no idea about gaming!

Jack Borden maybe shittiest is too harsh, but very lackadaisical and unprofessional.

Jack Borden I found that the host wasnt fit for this, it always felt like he was always looking down on people he interviewd and getting annoyed because they dont see things like he does or like he wants. But It was enjoyable

Jack Borden I kind of liked the more unprofessional feel to it, it separated itself that way from other news if you know what I mean.

I agree about the production. I was more referring to the tone and attitude of the host guy. He just needs to be respectful and professional. Like do you expect an interview from a guy when you just go up and ask him while he's getting attention from tons of fans? No.

Jack Borden they have good shows sometimes

This guy must be someone's brother or son that works for VICE, doing him a favor, he seems very incapable of doing this type of stuff.

Not at all actually -- at least not in this part. I think people are bringing the obvious lack of enthusiasm he showed in previous videos to this one, and it just doesn't apply. For someone who wasn't into gaming as much, he was okay. I will agree that he isn't the optimal person for the job though.

Swaganomics 101: Jimmy Rustles I haven't seen this guy anywhere else, he instantly comes across as someone who obviously dislikes the whole gaming scene. And this is shown throughout the entire video, you cannot call this 'lack of enthusiasm', I'm not only looking at his body language, but what he says and how he reacts shows most of all that he dislikes this entire scene. His body language and reporting skills are far worse and this person should not at all be doing this.

@henry walter You're using electronics. git rekt!

: I guess ppl who think this are teenagers with immature prefrontal cortex who have difficulty reading ppl's emotions, which is typical for teenagers. He didn't seem mad. He was bewildered a bit along with the rest of the audience about S. Korea's gaming culture which is VERY unique. The host has to feel with the intended audience. If you are a dedicated gamer and are offended, well..

TenaciousTangerine haha

TenaciousTangerine lol i love you

No shit. Virgin

Yeah, exactly. Pretty sure I didn't see anyone dressed in GIGN equipment at Katowice 2015 lol.

waywardTruth33 ouch that really hurt muh feels.

It's a skill not everyone has and it is competitive. That is why it's a sport

Zack Enockson So Math competitions are sports as well?

Miguel Angel Solis Bravo decide that yourself

people treated football and basketball the same way when they just started. OH ITS JUST PEOPLE THROWING/KICKING A BALL AROUND HOW IS THAT EVEN ENTERTAINING.

Derp DeDerp Its Esport, Its not considered as an sport,its considered as an Esport.

+Zander Janse van Rensburg why not? Shove an oblivious to e-sports person into the e-sports world. That is the perfect way to get a good glimpse of it, prejudice can be pushed aside. Who would you prefer to host it, anti e-sport, pro e-sport or doesn't have a fucking clue ;)

+Imdekingg That's the thing, this guy did not leave his prejudices aside. He fucking embraced them and did this like a total douchebag. Watching him clumping around that C9 player and cosplay girls with that dumb look on his face is just cringeworthy. You can see it, he's like "who the fuck are these kids thinking they're cooler than me who goes to clubs and drinks alcohol by the gallons?!"

MackP I understand your point of view, but my original thoughts are still my opinion on it.. I'm normally use to just overlooking that sort of thing in journalists - nothing really doesn't have some form of prejudice... hiding our thoughts to something is somewhat impossible imo. I was already aware of the vast expenditure used on it. But I feel this documentary did a good job of taking me to the other side without feeling like it was swayed to any particular side. Thanks :)

Imdekingg "nothing really doesn't have some form of prejudice... hiding our thoughts to something is somewhat impossible imo" It's not impossible, it's called being a professional. Which I certainly don't think this guy is. ;)

MackP in the end, he should have let the people in the documentary do most of the talking on their own behalf. He took far too much of a role for a proper documentary.

totally jealous LOL, it's a GAME and he's making FUN and still being pretty respectful. cry nerd

DaCamponTwee"But the host is showing it from a outsider perspective!", Yeah, okay. Try doing that naive attitude for any other type of subject, see how good that documentary is. You should have a reasonable amount of research on the subject (However exclusive it is) before you roll around with your camera and voiceover stuff.

aceplay100 Did you respond to the wrong comment?

no I love complaining.

aceplay100 Vice does that in all of their documentaries and it seems like they do well for the most part.

I think that was the whole point of this documentary. A view of esports world from outsider's perspective. Vice usually does that!!

you should have cover dota 2, the 2014 the international had 10M prize pool...

I agree, Dota 2 International first place was like 5 millos. If you want to do this kind of documentary include everything not just LoL, include Dota2, SC2, CS:GO. There different sports, there are also different games.

Great video Vice. The reporter and camera operator did a good job.

indeed the world most famous esport game,not the highest prize pool in esport,but its most popular ,salty income

Put that reporter in Syria vice,

I'm not a fan of the reporter, but agree with everything else you said. Very interesting series.

WretchedOutkasts Even for neutrals he was discomforting. There was a lack of awareness to the situation that made whatever attempts to understand the topic feel false. Whatever felt relevant to him that he could see similarities in was what became focused on. Like the PC bang group. Or the whole Hai thing. But generally I agree. The whole thing was amazing to watch and really, really interesting.

WretchedOutkasts Sorry, but that's just a lack of professionalism. If you're going to document a subject, KNOW THE FUCKING SUBJECT! Do research on it FFS.

SovietButcher Alright, calm down. It sounds like he offended you or something.

WretchedOutkasts The lack of professionalism is offensive. It looks like they took some random guy off the street, gave him a list of names and a camera crew. As someone that currently works with a crew that makes such films, this shit is the equivalent of spitting in the face of the crew I'm working with.

So your 2nd prob is cause someone doesn't know who Imgd are cmon now dude

Seems like a band only listened to in Korea, from what i gather

I like how ignorance tbh

Scott Yi no one knows who that band is unless you're a basement dwelling incel

Never heard of them. They're a terrible band though, that much is apparent

they don't play for rave clubs so he doesn't know them

So clever..

i do enjoy seeing this new part of the world where people have different entertainment events other than conventional sports game. it makes the world little more interesting.

+Kage Yamato I completely agree! I honestly thought I was the only one who noticed haha

I was just gonna say something similar... then I saw this post :D +1

i completely agree.. theur main target are those people like us who doesnt know or heard of stuff like this.. but reading from comment section gave me cancer.. typical lol players salty as ever lol

not true, i am not into gaming, i could have done this 100 better just by being more openminded than this sucker, probably they wanted him to be like that so that all clubbers and drunks can cheer about their awesome party last night while they puke all the alcohol

Stephen Oe loser.

+XSoulswiperX right next to locodoco and lustboy

literally the first thing i noticed in that clip

you're right

XSoulswiperX it was like find wally except find sneaky XD

So is your punctuation!

Bubba Gurt Can someone translate that for me?

vennthrax Thank you

Thomas Curry np

What's so great about buff people with the thinking capacity of a child who run around with balls in their hands.

Playing a video game -___- so challenging fuck off and get a damn life

Ryu Son Go ahead and play the game. Guarantee you'll eat shit.

So what you're saying is the game takes time and dedication to get good at. Whose side were you on again? Also this isn't a fighting game, you don't need to count frames of animation.

Most people who play sports are the same. >Implying kicking a ball around is a big contribution.

Chess is fine, there is not a screen. My problem is that if these gamers have as big of an influence on the youth as athletes in America do, all kids will want to do is play video games. Athletes influence kids to become active and healthy, something that is good for everyone and society.

they really aren't. enough with this shit.

they are in England

Mad GameZz They are pretty much in a whole Western World. I know next to nothing about LoL yet I know them for their music - still have no clue why they got invited into the event but anyway - they are very popular! One of the best selling bands on the iTunes. WTF is wrong with all those people having no clue who Imagine Dragons are?! Oh, wait, I know - none of their songs is popular in clubs... now that explains a lot. hahaha

They were big a couple of ago in Australia, but they're sort of a "flavour of the month" kind of a band, sort of like Nickleback, Jet etc.. they're huge for a year or so but then people stop talking about them.

For who ever was asking, they got invited because they love the game and even wrote a song for worlds! I think that shows something.

League is WAY more popular than dota. If you look at Twitch, league of legends is always number 1 in amount of viewers. From a business standpoint ,League made close to 1 billion in-game revenue compared to 136 million.

You seem to be forgetting the part where riot rented out an entire fucking World Cup stadium to host 40,000 fans. You seem to be under some kind of illusion that they could do that for free. Also DotA is a fucking VALVE game, Gaben has infinite money, he owns steam for Christ's sake.

Both of you prove my point. Riot makes all this money and give non of it back to its players in prize pools.

Neeno Brown Read this www.dailydot.com/esports/dota-2-prize-distribution-players/ Dota's distribution of prize money is so skewed that 72% of teams no longer exist after the International. That means either you make to the International or you're done. Meanwhile in LoL, there aren't any consequence for losing at worlds. Teams that qualify for worlds are guaranteed a spot to compete next year in their regions. That means future salary and prize money for participating in Worlds.

the DOTA championship was croudfunded, Valve didn't throw in much for the prize pool at all

that's the whole point.

+Marek Hullinger He wouldn't survive, but I guess that's the point.

He probably would use flash on D too.

Being called a nerd for playing video games is not a alien concept in Asia. Otaku is a synonym of nerd and is a common derogatory term used in both Japan and South Korea. I think the host of the documentary was making the point that it's difficult to marginalize these competitive game players now that they can win a lot of money and have thousands of fans.

***** and what great things have you achieved in life.....

lol no in Asia we still call them nerds.

Actually they do get called nerds, but nerds can be cool in Korea/China

I wouldn't say it's an alien concept in ASIA.

You never played chess i guess

+Mário Delgado The guy who had attempted suicide and made money loosing games because he was born into poor conditions did not get any proper coverage about why he basically remained at a lower income level, too. People had to collect charity for him, because they felt the need to show solidarity for him instead in engaging into real events in order to change the environment in which these kind of stories are created (conditions of poverty, not esports). *And I am not braging.* Stand up and cheer for him. This would help more. I *Promise* actions make up for ideas which live for ever on.

Charts suck. But yeah they are famous.

+Lars B. I remember the lead talking about how there was a great message in "Radioactive". I laughed.

only ever heard of them due to the Pentatonix/Lindsey Stirling cover, never heard from them after that either. must be geographical

Alex Cole That's a very perfect subjective point thing is, you can grab anything youre interested in; and as long as others have the same hobby, there is competition and bam

Alex Cole Try to watch something like The International with some good commentary (commentary is really make-or-break) and you'll see. I thought the same till I watched The International 2 and really loved it. First time I ever stayed till 4am watching sports event. I don't watch eSports on any regular basis or anything, but I do think it's really fun and enjoyable.

+zachevanbros where's waldo champion ^^^

ayyyyy

the one sitting right to sneaky is also well known I can't remember his name

oh LOCODOCO

trip1666 yeah but he s way more popular in country like china, malaysia vietnam and co

I have a feeling that samsung paid this series, Only kids play Lol. South korea is famous for Starcraft, not LOL

dota is just riding the lol wave... lol is far more initeresting because of the better infrastructure and it just generally beeing bigger.

Valdemar Czarskii Lmfao South Korea hasn't been known for Star Craft since 2009. League of Legends is by far the dominate esport in not only korea, but in all of Asia. They still hold the top 20 spots in the world for SC2 players, but it's no where near as big as League.

League was a bigger event. And this series wasn't about League, it was on e-sports. Though they should have went into the history of Starcraft 1 and why E-sports got big in Korea. You can't deny that Korea is far more into E-sports than the West. Not only on a cultural level but also at a professional level.

We should bring out a skin for that.

And then there's dota 2 with 10 million dollar prize pools

+Daniel Herrera actually $18,429,613

Riot seem to be really cheap. They're even having the finals this year in the same place that they booked out 3 years ago....

LOL is lame! 1 million is nothing compared to Dota 2's 10 million! TI5 is going to be even bigger this year! Come on vice. Why do you report on the second best report game by purse?? #noob #bigleagued

Good for ya... Go buy a cookie

So what? They are both Dota I rip-offs

TwoFistsOneHalleluja Right... and Half Life 2 is a rip off of HL 1, or any other game that has a 2 in it.

Benjamin Helm Already Answered somebody with a simillar comment, not going to even bother writting a new one so here. You obviously know nothing. " www.dailydot.com/esports/dota-2-prize-distribution-players/ Dota's distribution of prize money is so skewed that 72% of teams no longer exist after the International. That means either you make to the International or you're done. Meanwhile in LoL, there aren't any consequence for losing at worlds. Teams that qualify for worlds are guaranteed a spot to compete next year in their regions. That means future salary and prize money for participating in Worlds" League of legends players play in actual leagues that are similar to Real sports league,Players are on Contracts and Salaries and are able to grow with their team and become better through the years, instead of just having this big tournament where you either win or disapear .And it's not like the International is bigger in any other way than in the cash prize. Which is irrelevant anyway since LOL players have Annual Salaries which , if you were to put all salary money together, would probably crush The International's cash prize.

Time

worlds was viewed more than the nba championship

+Joseph Plays Games That's sad。Cyber gaming is meaningless for physical health。

JIAJIE DONG actually, im pretty sure all teams have set days to go to the gym and go out, theyre not always playing the game

697000 players at any given time? League already pass and going far away from 6 million.

No need to compare. Both games are awesome in their own way. Lol has exceedingly more players while dota 2 has the biggest prize pool.

do you know that lol doesnt have its compendum like thing yet that increase it prize pool when this was recorded

n4gauge yea the esports prizes are the only thing League is doing worse than any other esport right now. They do have the thing where you can buy icons and 30% of what the icons make go towards the teams it represents, but as the most popular game of all time, you'd expect a lot more.

higglyjuff thats not even close to the battle pass of dota which is super greedy .. after buying the base pack you cant even have all feature without spending more and so it adds more to the prize pool

Munchy Monk fuck imagine dragons

ayyfam

true to your name

Rekt

I think they were just more tired than sad. Playing a bo5 can be pretty tiring with the amount of focus required at that level

+Memes r cancer nah ssw was disappointed there was no challenge xD

RichleicaMP thats true even I fans of LOL but sitting in front of computer for days is not healty

+Nelson Sandoval hell yeaah

+Noah Tablit leagues better

+abraham but counter strike

+Nelson Sandoval Smite >all