The Morality of GFE and BFE 

I sacrificed my dignity for the last part especially. I fully expect to be worshipped for my bravery and be tossed a shit ton of money

I was watching the history of this old fictional character, Betty Crocker. She used to have her own radio show where, obviously, there was a lady playing her. It amused me how even back then she would get letters of guys asking to marry her. Even though her show was aimed towards women, she amassed a male following to the point a section about giving advice to the boys became a thing. She was way ahead of her time. Gold Medal should bring back Betty Crocker as a V tuber.

I've always thought Rushia is unique in that she may be the only GFE streamer that seems to be just as much caught up in the toxic parasocial behavior as her viewers.

You enjoy watching Uruha Rushia/ Mikeneko for the GFE I enjoy watching her for her game rage We are not the same😂

Pandering to the most toxic side of the community will result to a more toxic reaction from that community

This whole time I thought GFE stood for Get Fired Experience.

People that can’t separate Real Life from Fiction are cringe.

I like and love every Hololive member, I watch them once in awhile but I'm not there all the time for a relation or anything, I just enjoy watching them having fun time. BROKE GANG!!!!!

Parasocialism is a balance that comes with being a public figure; it's neither good nor bad. If you don't have any of it, you don't have an audience; too much of it, & you have an obsessive audience. GFE/BFE walks that line incredibly closely because it basically plays with what unicorns look for. & That's what makes it the most dangerous, & thus requires you to take extra precautions. Or just don't do it at all.

GFE/BFE is a business that doesn’t bother me as long as the streamer applies common sense and rules for themselves. Becoming a GFE/BFE streamer is like becoming an idol, your audience is going to have expectations and you’ll have to play along and respect those unspoken rules. It honestly amazes me when the GFE/BFE streamer thinks that can have their cake and eat it too without any consequences. Granted, what happened with Rushia was an accident that if she handled better, she’d still be in Hololive. Let me put it this way: if you’re a GFE/BFE streamer and you desperately what to find real love, either graduate or change your content style and wait till your gachikois don’t dominate your fanbase. You can’t have both in this industry, and you need to understand that. While at the end of the day I’m never gonna fault this kind of streamer for wanting to find love and tryna play the system, it’s never worth getting caught.

Rushia is the case that everyone is going to come back to regarding this, since she is without a doubt the most successful, most flamboyant, and most off-putting case of weaponized fandom in the Vtuber community. She had the number one donated Vtuber ever, then crashed and burned as a result of it. She then activated her previous persona, then put it in hiatus for a third persona, ran both of them simultaneously, basically put the third one on hiatus to focus on her original, then crashed and burned AGAIN with it for the EXACT SAME REASON she did so in her most famous iteration. She keeps walking the edge, then falling off of it.

"Your feelings for him/her, aren't real." "THEY ARE REAL TO ME!!!!"

I feel like using Vox and Rushia as case studies for the gfe/bfe is more interesting as of late because Rushia, or Mikeneko/Nazuna, still triples down in providing that type of content and is most likely going to fall into the same trap because of it, to the detriment of her own mental health. Meanwhile Vox has been transitioning out of bfe streams and has been a lot more vocal about distancing himself from catering to the bfe almost entirely, in order to take care of himself and ultimately create a healthier community that he can feel comfortable around.

For me personally watching vtuber is like going to the host/hostess club or a maid cafe. It's some sort of a service and both parties needs to respect their own boundaries. *edit : I didn't expect that ending wtf DN😂

Moderation in everything is the key. I mean, I don't consider strippers immoral when they pretend to like you to get you to tip better. As with most things, it's up to the buyer not to be insane. As for Unicorns, remember that in the lore if their "maiden" had sex, they would kill her.

this is why i love fauna, she drew a clear line to fans that we are not her actual friend, being realistic

Yeah this is why Shondo is great, she knows exactly where all the traps and minefields are and regularly jumps directly into them for the bit. It scares off both normal people and overly parasocial people, so her community somehow manages to be completely unhinged without any of the normal issues that come with that.

I think the "High Risk, High Return" slogan is really fit to describe job as GFE/BFE streamer. Being one brings you great rewards & benefits, but it also accompanied with huge risk and danger

I STARTED CHOKING AT THAT ENDING THAT WAS SO GOOD🎉🎉

I vote to change the term of unicorn to barnacles

Another day of thanking God for making me a sane person 🛐

BFE is similar to the Host Club in Japan, where many old ladies spend their money to young male hosts.

Something I noticed male vtubers have just as much as unicorns - is fujoshi. There are people who get angry at a male Vtuber when they interact even with other male Vtubers, not just girls, because they ship them with one of their friends. Mysta even brought it up once. This isn't even exclusive to Vtubing. I've seen kind of behavior with fictional character ship for decades.

Nice vid, I would say it really is up to the streamers' putting out boundaries and calling out those who have taken too far. Like Vox for example, I have a huge respect for him when he called out the freaks who was harassing reimu bcoz they feel "disturbed". But for Rushia, I don't really like how she doubles down and not learnt the lesson of not setting up boundaries after her termination. I hope she'll recover and get rid of the toxic gachis in her fandom, even if its 90% of her audience

Can't tell if this video aged like wine or a microwaved dog turd.

Damn, that last Depressed Nousagi BFE got me actin' up

Just my two cents on it: I think GFE/BFE can be done in a safe way but finding that middle ground is almost impossible. FallenShadow/Shondo does it well because it’s so unhinged it’s obviously a LARP. Nenechi does it well because she’s so silly with it that it’s obviously a LARP. I won’t mention the ones who are toxic because we all most likely know who those talents and fandoms are already.

Really long story incoming 😭 I used to be parasocial for Hex Haywire, but I knew he wasn’t actually my boyfriend and was just a streamer in the back of my mind the whole time. I was going through a really difficult time in my life around the time of his debut, and I found his voice and presence very comforting. His random s3xual jokes got boring and repetitive to me and I eventually stopped watching him, but I’ll never forget that time in my life. Was I cringe? Hell yeah man. I had him as my pfp on discord and everything. But I could go home from a long day of school so stressed I couldn’t sleep, turn on his asmr (he only had one or two at the time and they weren’t spicy like his newer ones. The one I liked to watch was very wholesome and cute) and I would literally cry of happiness from his familiar comforting words. Those moments at night listening to his asmr were probably the happiest moments I had during that time. I really needed someone there for me, and his content was there for me. Cringe? Yes. But if it’s either refusing to sleep without watching one of his vods or stay up all night crying and possibly hurting myself further in some way I’d much rather be parasocial. I didn’t come to his streams very often, and mostly watched his vods. I wanted to watch them all (yes I was very parasocial) and because of this I ended up becoming months behind. I have however had a few interactions (if you can call them that?) with him when he hearted my comment or read my chat messages a few times when I actually made it to a live. There was a time where I genuinely wanted him to notice me but I think it could have simply been because I didn’t feel like I fit in with his chat (I have yet to find a chat I feel like I belong in to this day) and I wanted some sort of validation that I belonged there. Like I said, I stopped watching him because it got a bit repetitive. He always insisted people stop sending him supas and while I found it as cute at first it got annoying as hell cause he’d delay playing the game just to talk to chat (and I was vod gang). Also I have neglected to mention that I have adhd. Because of this I have a tendency to hyperfixate on varies things, sometimes people, and become completely focused on them for like a month and then suddenly just not care anymore. Hex was just one of many hyperfixations I’ve had, but that’s the only time I’ve ever been parasocial for a streamer. I had no problem with Hex interacting with girls. I remember being sad when Zaion was forced to graduate not because I was a fan of hers but because I loved her dynamic with Hex (they are like siblings, it was adorable). Some people shipped him and Melo and I only disliked the ship cause shipping real people is weird. I thought his interactions with her were really cute and funny. Hex got a lot of problems very early and had multiple streams where he began by reminding us that “I am not your boyfriend. I am not your dad. I am not a real therapist. If you need a therapist please seek actual help. Etc.” I was still new to the vtuber community at the time and didn’t know about these toxic parasocial people. Their presence really surprised me. I saw a lot of comments on the vtuber news channels I watched that kinda blamed Hex for catering to this audience, and especially for having the lore he did where he was a therapist. I felt bad cause I’d been pretending (completely consciously) he was my boyfriend and my therapist. The difference is I didn’t send him pictures of sh on Twitter and ask him to fix me. The difference is I didn’t cause him or even myself any harm at all. My point in all this? I’ve experienced being parasocial. I know many parasocial people aren’t toxic, even if they’re as cringe as I was. But the truth is you’re gonna attract the wrong kind of people as well, so it’s really difficult. It’s a dangerous game.

I was profoundly shocked and disgusted by what happened at the end of the video, have a well-earned like.

including clips of Taylor Swift in your videos has made me realize that as a vtuber fan and a swiftie I am the worst breed of parasocial…..

i feel that the hard part is whether you think feeding escapisim is right or wrong. also the closing bit was really fucking funny

The ending is honestly so fucking good I applaud the effort

Streamer Wise: You need to understand if you want to become GFE/BFE Streamer. In compensation for having massive, loyal, & royal fanbase; you need to stay away from your real life relationship too or play it very carefully. You can't have both. GFE/BFE Wise: In the end of the day, your idol/vtuber is just the same as you, human as fragile as you are. If you think you suck and toxic enough that everybody said, your idols behind the avatar ain't different than you. So be prepared that you'll get hurt one day, because they can lie, they can act, and it's just a matter of profession. For Regular Fans Like Me: When you ready to support someone, you must also be ready of losing them. Makes boundary to what separates this from that, virtual from real life, expectation fron reality. It's about business and entertainment.

The Needy Streamer Overload is the cherry for this video

Godamn, you're back! Last time I saw, you had gone through drama and stuff. Its nice to see you making content again!

I think basic etiquette is to show up on time for the live stream, hit like as soon as possible so new friends see it in their feed and join you, hang out for 60% of the time for the same reason. Maybe buy merch. Beyond that, RU-vid should have something like private areas in chat to splinter off into groups for those who need a break. GFE is a time-intensive thing. Several days together, maybe. It takes a long time to find something compelling about a person close-up. I couldn't do it. I feel smothered by waitstaff on cruise ships. GFE has to be even more emotionally draining.

In the current vtubers I know, Shiori Novella is the only one who knowingly dips her toes into the edges of boundary to Parasocial with her fans then taking her toes back, making them thirst for it while she announces to respect her choice and creating a safe wall, teasing them behind it with her whispers. Unlike Rushia which makes streams/GFE to accommodate her fans, Shiori is like the opposite which the fans accommodate for her. They can't be mad at Shiori which for me is actually very very smart (that I just noticed after watching her streams and her chat while comparing them to Rushia/Mikeneko and her chat). This channel once posted a video on how Susei is the sexiest for being not Sexy. Shiori applied this to a T. She's making her fans imagine and thirst for it while consistently teasing them without going too far. And she also plays the goth girl perfectly. I don't think this is a good example(because I can't find a good word to describe it) but its like Shiori is the "Dominatrix" on the relationship with her fans while Rushia is the opposite. Rushia's fans are "I want to fix her." Shiori's fans are "I don't want to fix her, I want her to break me." Then after finding out Shiori's PL, this made my assumption concrete that shiori fcking knows how to play this game cunningly unlike Rushia/Mikeneko and other vtubers who give GFE/BFE. Shiori Novella is a veteran

It's gambling. You come in with a plan, get the jackpot, and get out before you get hooked- before you get "the fever." This goes for the content creators and viewers.

Eh, one must remember, it's fine to be a fan. But remember that's what you are at the end of the day, a fan, just another line of text in her/his chat that donates money and talks. Alot of people forget that behind every Vtuber, there is a real person who doesn't exist exclusively just to cater to you. And every Vtuber sees their fans as the same, someone somewhere else on the other side of the world, viewing their content from a computer screen or a phone screen. At the end of the day no matter how much you talk to them or know them, we're all just strangers to one another. A boundary must be maintained and that line must never be crossed.

Giving us a taste lol thanks for another great video keep up the great work.

Y'kno Japan has been using this method of marketing a pseudo relationships and parasocial relationships for a while now. Not just with the advent of modern idol culture that started in the late 70's to early 80's but before, kinda since the edo period with Kabuki and Geishas. Sure you can regard geisha as sex wrking but more so their role were closer to an escort who you pay to socialize. While Kabuki actors were split into three categories of "Ichimaime", "Nimaime", and "Sanmaime'. "Ichimaime" were the actors who has the nost experience in acting, " Sanmaime" are the ones who played the more commical roles and " Nimaime" who had the pretty face. There were ton of merchandise being made and sold of these actors and the ones that sold the most was the pretty boy who smittened the hearts of girls and boys alike. Now is this style of marketing and business kinda cucked? Yeah, it's quite immorale but it does rake in the cash and money does make the world go round.

All in my subjective opinion, I think that if it is just video content, I don't really care. But streaming is where things get much worse because actual interaction is given to donated messages. That's how really bad obsessions are born and it's one with a monetary incentive to exploit it. Start looping in gf/bf merch, personalized messages and chats, and it starts becoming gross to me. I'm not going to attack anyone over it of course because thay's extremely dumb, but that's how I feel.

ayo this vid came at the right time, i decided to marathon your videos while drawing

i really needed this, thank u a lot

Depends on how they do it. Someone like Airi Viridis only really does it in 30 minute pre-recorder asmr videos which Is perfectly fine to me but ones who make it their entire character and try and convince their chat they are in love with them are the ones I think take it to far.

That ending sbit was like, the excact opposite of gf experience lol. Made my daily struggles so much worse

Thanks for the last part dude, I really needed a good laugh. But if you think you there's any money in ASMR, you should try it. It looks like you already know what to do, so I won't tell you anything you already know.

Thank you I reallly enjoy your content

Heavily reminds me of Rent-A-Girlfriend anime. Fake relationships as business.

Depressed Nousagi's BFE is making me a unicorn.

Zehahahaha, I really love auto generic subtitles 😂❤. Also, what you say is really true and I hope they all can fix their problem in the future.

Interesting choice of music in this one. Anyway, as the only agency I actively watch in full is Phase Connect, GFE is rarely performed by the girls. Only Remi and Rie really performing it at this point through ASMR, but around the turn of this year, Airi, Erina, and Shiina tried their hands at it, also through ASMR. Airi and Erina haven't done anything like that since May, while Shiina's last one is related to her subathon and was performed in June. Dizzy does OOC streams, which kinda helps with the disconnect of the toxic side of parasocialism. Though, I sometimes worry about Shiina when it comes to the parasocial thing... That said, it really depends on how the talent handles the viewers they've gathered that makes the "experience" a good or bad thing from a moral standpoint. Another vtuber I'm aware of is Ophelia Midnight from Vreverie and she goes *HARD* into the roleplaying thing for GFE. While she somewhat makes sure people understand it's just an act at the start and end of her streams (vod watcher here), she doesn't always make it clear. She's the only talent from that agency that I've seen actively pursue that line of entertainment. I more actively watch Nova Aokami from that agency, who's "relationship" with chat is more akin to "Hanging out with the bros" than anything else. I'm also subbed to Cheri and Rana from that same agency, but rarely, rarely watch them, so I can't tell how they engage, but from what I've seen, they're more normalish streamers. So, it's a mix of both the talent and the viewers to make sure the mental health of both parties are healthy if GFE entertainment is performed.

I hate how that ending worked so well on me. I think I just like being praised and spoken nicely to.

the ending.....idk how much you had to hold back the cringe but damn good job XD

The needy streamer overload music is very fitting.

God damn homie, that ending was tuff.

It's just porn. You have sexual porn, and you have emotional porn. GFE is emotional porn. Not my place to tell people not to look at porn. Same for GFE. The morality of it should be limited to if people have a right to access the media they want.

I enjoyed Rushia for her rage.

Nice video. Good explanation. Thanks for the laugh at the end.

There could be other details that change the conclusion, but I think in principle if they do not set clear boundaries, do not present it as just roleplay etc, then they do hold some of the blame for the behavior of the deranged fans. Maybe it could be excused for early vtubers and perhaps some very new ones that weren't too familiar with the industry and such; but I find it a bit hard to believe any pro wouldn't have learned by now that being careless with such practices has the tendency of attracting and cultivating fans with unhealthy mentalities. There is no 100% foolproof approach, many people go crazy without any external triggers; but when the celebrity encourages it, then they aren't completely innocent anymore. And similarly, big agencies also share some responsibility if they do not advise their talents to avoid that, or worse when they themselves pimp out their talents without properly preparing them.

i was planning to make a real comment about the subject, but then Handsome BF Nousagi happened & i forgot what i was gonna say

To me it depends on if you cross the line of enjoyer to obsessed fanatic that projects their ideas on who the entertainer is upon entertainer.

ayo nousagi that ending was kinda sus :D now i understand what you meant with that tweet

I think the more deep-rooted "problem" with vtubing is that it's still a niche inside a niche, so a giant portion of the community is bound to be mentally ill on some level. Combining the volatility of parasociality with a group of people who lack self-control was always going to end badly.

I don't trust lonely people to realize when they're in too deep in their attachment, and I don't trust a vtuber not to take advantage of it at some point, boundaries, or not

Vader: Your feelings for her are not real. Starkiller: THEY ARE REAL TO ME!!!

I think the big issue is that it comes off as incredibly predatory. The medium as a whole is closely descended from Idol culture where it inherently profits off of misery by creating an artificial beacon of Hope for the mentally unwell or depressed to latch onto. Boyfriend / girlfriend experience that idea and triples down on it buy homing in on the worst aspects of idle culture and trying to make quick bucks off of it. The same individuals will then turn around and cry fell when they're unstable fanbase lashes out because they're breaking the keyfabe. The drug dealer analogy works wonders because although you can argue that people don't have to buy into it, but the individuals are purposely selling these things in specific locations where this sort of thing could prosper so you're targeting in on a very specific community

I was hardcore fan of vtuber, but watching your video, think about and slow down. Sometimes peoples wanted so many attention but forget what vtuber have personal life like everyone

Meanwhile Holo ID, "get some help, Halu!"

Oh boy new Nousagi video *pulls out popcorn 🍿 *

I wonder if adding a disclaimer, and a small segment before and after where you break the role play for a few minutes. On of the people I listen to for ASMR chats for a few minutes, says hello to a number of fans, then adds a little space with a transition screen before the roleplay.

This is me but loading up a save in KCD, getting a polearm and going on a murder spree.

Keep up the good work DN. as a normal fan of any Vtuber, I used get too hook watching Vtuber. But nowadays, i am fine just watching playback and translated short replay from other. Also, that last bit make me laugh.

I believe GFE or BFE they are not bad. You're supposed to deal with adults and they should be responsible for their actions, if you can't tell reality from a performance it's your fault, not the one providing the experience.

lol you switched to pink neko and I couldn't even tell the difference for a while... that model is truly...hmmm...

the last part makes me cringe man like saying "goodnight baby girl"

That ending got me laughing out loud I got look weird at work

also being parasocially attached to rando's on the internet is fundamentally unhealthy, you dont actually know them and they don't know you. if you are in any way mentally sound you can tell the difference between someone you are in [a friendly] relationship with and just a person who exists to entertain you

Honestly I like Bae a lot, because of how much she cares about her audience and she is very adorable but I also must realize that Im a fan like any other and shouldnt get to attached (I can tell its fricking hard not to get too attached to her) and besides Bae and many streamers either already have a bf or are having too much work to do to even have time for a relationsship, that must be taking into consideration too, I wish only that my oshi is happy and having someone that cares greatly for her, even tho it would be great to have a person you look up to having as a bf/gf or just a friend to chill and talk with but in the end she doesnt know you and you can sadly ever dream about it that they show interest to a specific viewer out of thousands.

THAT BIT AT THE END OF THE VIDEO KILLED ME X_X BRO I WAS EATING AND NEARLY CHOKED

like in [almost] any relationship, the responsibility lies on both people i have bpd and a history of getting strongly attached to people that paid me minimum attention, only to get crushed with disappointment when things inevitably changed, and pushing them away further when i got jealous and desperate out of fear of abandonment, so i can imagine what parasocial relationships feel like and how it can hurt. there can be /reasons/ for falling for a fantasy and building sandcastles in the air, but there are no /excuses/ for acting without decency and respect for the other person. similarly, if you've won people's hearts you have an influence over them, and playing into the experience too much and enabling certain behavior comes with consequences. (giving side-eye to a certain niji vtuber who acts opposite of vox) as a viewer i'm tired of seeing disclaimers that remind people of common sense in every other video, but gfe/bfe is probably the type of content where it's necessary to do so. obviously, not everyone will listen but that is out of creator's control already.

Why does this get dressed up like it's some culture clash between pro parasocial and against? The morality question is simple, adults who can consent can do whatever they want to each other, it's ethical between them. The only counter arguments are just about positions determining the ability for someone to have consent.

The "this is morally wrong" argument is frankly stupid. "You are fueling their addiction" can be applied to almost literally everything, because there will ALWAYS be a subset of people who will get addicted to anything. Heck, playing a load of Minecraft streams can "exploit someone's Minecraft addiction". In fact, I would argue that the whole POINT of being a content creator is to get people to watch your content, and inherent in that is that many people will like it enough to get addicted. The streamer cannot be responsible for how the viewer chooses to read into their content when they have no control over who choses to engage or not.

I always felt the harassment Rushia got was unwarranted, but when I saw that she was trying to build the exact same type of fanbase after getting a new start, one of my first thoughts was “why would you do this again?”

I think there's definitely problems with the people that take it too far. I mean, it's ridiculous to think that you know this person well enough to act that way towards them. But when a talent cultivates that kind of audience, they should expect the backlash when they want to suddenly do something against what they are selling.

Vox and Rushia/Mikeneko/Nezuna just seem like they constantly poke the bear that is their insane fanbase that they have cultivated, I can't feel bad when they get mauled or nearly get mauled and still cozy back up to it. At some point the person has gotta take responsibility for the rocket fuel to succes they used.

Nice video Nousagito

What a curveball at the end x'D that was a great punchline "It's your responsability in the end.... so, THAT SAID" *turns into a husbando* Fully responsible me: oh- ..... YES!

Didn't watch the video yet, but I don't think it's a bad thing to do per se. It's just that exceptionally lonely people end up making it bad. I just find it entertaining and nothing more.

ITS REAL TO ME DAMMIT fauna isnt doing it for a job, she genuinely loves me and cares for me! uuuuuu 😭😭😭😭😭 lmao tho that bit at the end though, i felt the cringe in my soul

I still think it's up to the streamer to set boundaries and control their fans. I mean some fans where bound to get toxic anyway but if you do it right you can minimize the amount of people who go down the path.

yoooo Nousagi BFE ASMR experience?!?!? who let him cook?! nice ending tho 😂

I'm a firm believer that the BFE/GFE experience isn't wrong. Cuz ask yourself this. Why should vtubers be responsible for how their fans feel? How come no one expects the parasocial fans to be responsible for their own actions/feelings? Why are we blaming the vtuber for doing their job? Why do the parasocial fans get a pass for not distinguishing reality and fiction? Shouldn't those fans try to better their own mindset?

There is a metric ton of things to say about this. But honestly, if we distill things down to their primal core, what's wrong or right is something we just made up as humans, and people just do what benefits them, incentives vs. disincentives. But if we put morality into it, it depends on intent. If someone will do anything to get the bag, and have no dignity or conscience, then yeah, its bad. There are also people who genuinely connect with people through vtubing and end up caught up in that. And there are people who are just looking for a paycheck but clock in and clock out using thier talents. So there isn't just one answer, and people aren't likely to risk the big payday to be honest about their intent(or the depths of their own mental frailities). I will say this, we are no closer to addressing the deepening loneliness with people, primarily because its easier to dismiss, isolate, and make witty quips about touching grass than actually helping people. So if anything, the charismatic sociopaths amongst us will be able to get dat bag for a long time to come until we actually get serious about dealing with it. The worst takes is thinking that the Internet is the only reason, and not acknowledging the stigma of mental illness, or the apathy inherent in society. Again, there is a lot of reasons this is even lucative to begin with.

If you use nectar to attract bees it ain't their fault if ya get stung. You gotta take precautions. Everyone's aware of the kinds of people that go for this stuff, so it's up to you on how much you protect yourself. I agree the boundaries are important and responsibility needs to be shared on proper measures to avoid it getting really toxic. But no matter how you set yourself up you're still playing with fire. This is all to say I don't think the buisness is bad per se. However, I feel no pity for anyone that does this business practice and things turn sour. These things are too be expected. Edit: Wtf was that ending?

Da ending was unexpected, i almost simped

The thing with PFE/GFE is how much of a permanent path it becomes. Once the fanbase builds up around GFE/BFE there is no way to break free from it and any attempts to do so can result in backlash and even cause trouble for other streamers involved especially collab partners. The only way to make gfe/bfe safe is to take things slow and grow a healthy fanbase that is not reliant on gfe/bfe and a healthy fanbase can handle gfe/bfe type streams safely as the healthy fanbase wont reach an unhealthy level of neediness. Fubuki and her 'wife streams" she does once in a great while is a good example.

I would say the vtuber is not "responsible" however I would also posit the vtuber is not immune from repercussions if they are willing to roll the dice on that style of content they should not be surprised if they get extreme parasocials. To put it another way when you get in the car you're accepting the risk that you might have an accident. The accident might not be your fault but you still have to be prepared for that outcome

13:10 Aw hell nah back up from the microphone Mr. Rabbit 💀

Im just here to hear ladies singing, havent given any of them a thing