@@esotericegoism7536 yeah, they store them..in the cargo hold the place you store things. what is there a storage room compartment along with the cargo hold?
i wonder if he realizes that trading "imperial slaves" to pirates means he transfers those poor sods from "type A" indentured servitude into hardcore "Type B" slavery ...
Especially when the imperial reasoning is that tve exact opposite, turning type b slaves to type a's is a win-win scenario for both the slaves and the empire.
My most morally repugnant action in elite: I was running a smuggling mission delivering slaves to a place I had never been before. I arrived at the Outpost and marvelled at is strange shape. It was a science Outpost, I had never seen one of those before. Wait... Why am I smuggling slaves to a science Outpost in an anarchy system on the fringe of the bubble!?!? "... GOOD LUCK FUCKERS!!" *Mission Complete*
Same thing with unlocking the engineer Ettienne Dorn in Colonia. He wants 25 occupied escape pods. What would a lonely engineer 22000Ly away from the bubble want with occupied escape pods? Who cares, here you go Ettienne, now give me my grade 5 light weight life support.
@@davidentz7440 I knew he needed the life pods, but it wasn't till I actually got there that I read his little write up on it. Man that pissed me off. I couldn't bring myself to do it. The extra jumps / time it took me to get back to the bubble was not a problem for me as I had been out exploring the black before the guardian FSD was around, or before the Thargoids had invaded. That said before deep core mining became a thing, my largest trade transaction was from smuggling in a type 9 full of battle weapons to a prison in civil war. Lord of War ☠
Thinking back on it, it's crazy how many games I've played that feature slavery as a game mechanic in space. It's been a thing since the 90's at least and no one has any issues with it. I'm glad though since it's a great dark tint to a space setting.
Great video! My friends had a hard time getting into the roleplay aspect but I'm happy to see others embracing it. When I started, I worked primarily with the Diamond Frogs in Lan Wang. I would smuggle weapons to bring down "the man" but would never trade slaves - until I did a covert transportation mission in which I didn't notice the cargo was slaces until I was already handing it in. I broke my own moral code and in my anger, I lashed out - I took on an assassination mission of a local politician to clear my conscience but failed horribly. I was stuck in a prison 100ly away, the furthest I'd ever been, and used it as a opportunity to move on from working with slave trading thugs - even if I wasn't trading them myself, I was helping an evil that I couldn't agree with. After some me-time in the asteroid fields, I pledged myself to Winters and got to work fighting Torval to rid the galaxy of slavery. To make some side cash, I worked with Federal factions until they offered me a Specs Op job. It was good money so I took it on, not knowing the mission would be to destroy passenger liners from another Federal faction. Even the Feds weren't above taking innocent lives. I decided to get away from the corruption of the bubble. I decked out a Diamondback and set off for Colonia and beyond. Even though civilization is a cesspool now, maybe our colonys in the future will have a better chance of peace and fairness for all. Maybe I'll come back a better person with a clear mind of how I can improve our state of affairs - but for now, it's just me and the wonders of the galaxy. Fly safe, commanders o7
I went to Calonia to bring the cesspool. Working to establish my own empire. Were every one is my serf. My dream is that no one even breathes without my consent. Then I will amass a fleet and conquer the Federation and Empire. I will make a Galactic Empire in my name. My will be done. My Empire. I am the Dark lord of the Sith!
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
I always laughed when I failed in saving all 8 hostages in a liberate mission. I accidentally kill the type 6 hauling them, with only like 5 hostages collected. You can't turn them in as a partial completion. My rational has been utterly awful sitting there back at the dock, pondering on what to do. "Maybe someone will find them" as I jettison them inside the hangar, ignoring the prompt informing they'll be destroyed. Or "hey, look I'm not going to kill you to save my conscience. Soooo, I guess I'll sell you on the black market. You're welcome."
Yes, that is a problem. I once happened upon six illegal escape pods at a ship crash site. So I left them there. Occasionally you have to to something in game and pretend it is something else because the game does not give you the options.
When i got my anaconda, i named it "zero value". I made the money to buy it by fitting a pirate python, blasting cargo ships's thrusters , and ripping out all their low temperature diamonds Then selling them to the black market. The income to buy that ship will never appear on any space tax documents, hence the name I did a small portion of slave trading with my conda, wasn't my thing. After using it for combat I modified it to be an armed miner/cargo ship, and thus has remained in that role.
It'll be interesting how it will work when we have space legs. Any of the containers should have screams, begging and sobbing coming from inside that you hear when you walk past. I mean if you want to make money from the business you shouldn't hide away from the implications of it.
Depends on the type though, right? Only if it's illicit slavery, not "Type A", as they know what they were getting themselves into and are basically on a Greyhound bus between jobs
No shame in Autodock. I'm lazy, so I use it all the time. Even though sometimes I do turn it off if I'm crunched for time, manual for me is still *faster*, but not necessarily *better*.
People give you trouble for using auto dock while they fly tiny ships around. Auto dock is almost required for those really large ships like the cutter, beluga, anaconda and corvette that barely fit through the mail slot
@@user-jm8sy5ox2j I can get through the mail slot better than autodock usually can, but once I get to my pad I prefer to let autdock take over and put her down.
I personally use auto dock for when I'm busy doing something else, like deciding the next station or system I'll jump to or checking if I have any bounties to claim at that system, stuff like that. While manual docking might be faster, it requires 100% of my attention, and it might be more productive to let it happen automatically while I do something else. But since launching is so fast, I never use auto launch anymore.
i think it would be cool if you could free slaves. like take them to a refugee mega ship, or a station that helps slaves and I-slaves to achieve freedom.
Sounds very awsome, though i would be on the other side of that spectrum (the one beeing hunted cause he trades slaves). There are so many ways to make our pirate lifes more miserabel and more fun at the same time, it baffles me they don´t implement such things.
That would probably lead to being able to pirate ships like liners and cargo vessels and take slaves. People like having both good and bad options, after all.
Imagine the gameplay opportunities. Interdicting slavers and forcing them to either jettison slave pods or trade for the slaves with commodities. Then players take the slaves to safe harbour. They could even make an event out of it for populating new star systems.
@@thatdarnskag5043 Was just thinking that would make for some neat roleplay in open. You could also be morally questionable vigilantes who destroy ships with slaves in their cargo holds, claiming that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. If you want to fight slavery and still manage be the bad guys that is.
I hauled imperial slaves one time, but it was too heavy on my conscience. I made my money using glitched skimmer and tourist missions, although those are a different moral dilemma entirely... I consider my character in Elite as someone who has made a transition, literally and figuratively. It's good in this game that you can make your own stories this way, I like reading other CMDR's personal stories.
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
I ran slave only one time.... That was when I first started We became friend I think Then I realized its illegal So I abandoned him in space Hahahaha Technically not a slave runner
I've yet to get into slave trade in ED. Character RP wise, I have no incentive to as a rogue, semi-Federation friendly scavenger. But I have read that it can be a lucrative and interesting business.
If you want to go balls to the wall you can run it with a cutter for quite the tasty profit, just make sure to have your baller pilot cap on when you go through the letter box at 350 m/s xD
I wish to fight the evil anti-slavers of the galaxy. They are a blight upon the glorious, humanitarian service I provide. People need people and I help them come together.
In the tv show Black Sails, there was a pirate Captain who was a former slave. At one point they hit a massive haul and needed a place to keep it safe. The nearby fort was the obvious choice but badly needed repairs. With so many on the island with stuffed pockets finding laborers to fix the fort was impossible. At one point the pirate captains closest friend had to make a hard choice and use slaves to fix the fort and lied by omission to the pirate captain about a certain ships who had precious cargo which ended up being full of slaves. One of my favorite parts of the entire show that really showed the complexity of morality that the character who despised slavery the most was put into an extremely tough position where he himself had to use slaves for labor. Important to note that they paid and freed those slaves and never even fixed the fort but instead converted a huge cache of gold into a more precious material that was easier to move and hide. I've wanted to model my commander after this captain and having the option to fight against slavery through multiple ways would be incredibly cool.
Saw some player eject slaves near Gidzenko Station in Charmunda. Was more impressed that the Space McDonalds had a working ice cream machine than the amount he spilled into space when he got a scan from me.
I felt targeted when you said you could just launch slaves into the supermassive black hole cause I did exactly that during distance worlds 2; 32 metric tons worth of innocent people, locked up inside tiny canisters for months only to be dropped into a black hole, it was undoubtedly the most evil thing I’ve ever done.
I earned my way to my first anaconda exclusively through slave trading. I have found however some cmdrs I have flown with in discord chats do not understand that you can be pro-slavery in game and anti-slavery out of it
I think it was Donald Winnicott who believed that in playing can people be entirely their true selves. Society is what puts checks on your everyday behavior. So based on that hypothesis you, my friend, are a monster. 😂
Yeah, same here. I am a big fan of strategy games. Somehow some people can't understand that you can win WW2 with Germans and be proud of that, but be no Nazi.
i only hauled imperial slaves once, and it was by complete accident, but i went on to travel halfway across the bubble to sell them at an imperial-controlled port under one of the imperial powers as for my takes on slavery in elite dangerous, i'm sure that the laws regarding imperial slaves don't affect you as they affect the TREATMENT of slaves, not the HANDLING of slaves, as you are merely a contractor transporting goods from one station to the next and not an end-user. I believe that when you, as a commander, are purchasing imperial slaves, you're not allowed to make use of them, you can only transport them and sell them to another market or deliver them to the customer that ordered them, this customer or market having gone through all the stipulations, regulations and paperwork required to be allowed to legally do this. that is the end-user is contractually obliged to respect the slave's rights, with immense financial and legal repercussions should those rights be infringed. if something happens in transit, it's circumstances that are outside of the customer's or seller's control and therefore cannot be enforced upon. Another set of legal rights i believe imperial slaves have is when their time of servitude is over and they can get into contact with the agency or company or whatever is the entity in charge of dealing with slaves, that entity is legally obligated to provide and pay for the transport of now former imperial slaves back to their respective homeworlds, or provide the funds to do so on their own or start a new life at their new world or even simply continue living with their owner.
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
I always have a hard time performing morally dubious actions in simulations. Be it Fallout or Mass Effect I end up feeling guilty performing what would be considered evil deeds in the real world. When I try to be a bad guy I just end up turning into, at most, an antihero. In the end, there is a hypothesis that the actions we take in a simulated world, one free of real-world consequences, is who we truly are as a person. 🤔
I think thats only true for individuals who cant emotionally disconnect from their in game actions. Like how you feel bad doing immoral things in game, there are definitely the opposite and then you have someone like Geist who can easily role play and decide what his characters should feel and then like a actor respond to situations by the rules set for your characters. Playing dnd for example, You basically get rewarded for playing your character by the personality set before the game started. That requires making on the spot choices that go against your true person.
In my head, I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
I honestly love the ethos of the Federation and it's "no free lunch" work ethic. The Empire always defends its slave trade in humanitarian terms as a "safety net" for poor and incompetent people, while a patriotic Federal citizen would just see Imperial Slaves as a bunch of beggars and parasites. I figure my character on Hackworth, who owns several ships and almost never loses money, would be contemptuous of these Imperial deadbeats who took the easy way out and sold themselves into slavery. He's probably glad to help them get the heck off the station where they are just taking up space and food and oxygen.
My elite dangerous pilots history is one of a former slave, And joined the federation to escape it. He first concentrated on making as much money legally as possible, and his final objective is to fight back against the empire that still legalize slavery. He is full hardcore federation, with some ties with the alliance.
With apologies to our ancient ancestors here in Ireland (not many people know that the Irish - well, the Celts, well, the people who were here before the Celts and the Romans and the Normans and the Anglo-Saxons - were also regularly grabbed and sold as slaves; even St Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland, was originally a slave, from Wales), thanks for flagging where’s a great place to sell slaves from! Let’s go! Anyway, maybe they’re all just Wage Slaves like the rest of us - I don’t know that they’re Not - in which case I’m an intergalactic... bus driver. Great. Perhaps I’m ferrying the galaxy’s McJobbers around in a vast gig economy, from one tedious atmospheric plant-painting or catering gig to another. Time to go and bring joy to the masses - or the masses to the joyless McWork that they’re perhaps going to...
People judging you and even trying to hunt you down as a slaver will also be doing it in a game-unless they’re harassing you in real life, that is indeed retarded, exclude em-and all consequences will also be only in the game where you’ll get your ship destroyed
I bought 15 Imperial Slaves and I was doing a courier mission and got interdicted next to a giant star, and my interdictor used hatch breakers on my cargo hatch and all of my cargo drifted toward the star, when I left I think he saved 3 of the slaves and the rest fucking vanished.
I've often pondered if slavery in a simulator was wrong. It really pulled at my conscience night after night. After watching this my conscience is clear thanks a million.
As a commander myself I am of the opinion that whatever makes the most money in the shortest time is what I'll do, if that means trading slaves so be it. At the moment though I engage in deep core mining as it is the most profitable activity.
I have achieved a multi billion bank balance and all my ranks without moving a single slave. I've emancipated slaves though. I role play an ex slaves son who emancipates slaves whenever he sees them in transit.
The imperial might shall shackle you! *throws cutters in your general direction* - I used to RP as a bounty/slaver until I went 'legit' with mining before going straight back to it inside a glorious imperail Cutter, hard to hear 650 tons of slaves complaining when you're surrounded by such opulence!
@@VaeVictisXIII I have a cutter I use to emancipate Slaves. Very pvp focused build, they usually drop their slaves for me to recover once their shields are destroyed if they attempt to fight. If they try to run I mass lock them until their thrusters are broken by savage weapons fire then emancipate their slaves. I don't sell the slaves, I release them at one of my factions stations where they are assisted with finding their family and are helped to get a start in society as a free person. I don't shoot to kill, I want the slaves to live. Until quite recently I had 14,000, 000 cr bounty on me but it was claimed by another commander when I lost to him in a consentual duel to the death against his cutter. It was a close fight, the other Cdr had 13% Hull and no canopy by the time I exploded spectacularly.
I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
had an anaconda, alot of fully upgraded medium sized ships, now I'm rockin an almost A spec corvette with multiple fully engineered modules. I've never been tempted to smuggle slaves, not even once. I've got over 1000 hours in the game.
I’m indifferent to slavery in the game, I don’t really support it, but at the same time it’s not worth it to me to go fight an all out war to end it. I’m selfish and focused on achieving my own goals, if that means every once in a while I need to make a slave run then eh, it’s their problem not mine.
I don't think selling yourself into slavery can be considered any sort of safety net, least of all from poverty. That seems more like an oversight by the devs or in lore, a dirty euphemism used by imperials to diminish what would actually happen, history tells another story of how slaves are usually treated. Working as a slave I can't imagine how you'd be able to rebuild your life easily, I would imagine slaves would have the same difficulties rebuilding their lives, that actual slaves had in the real world, using the states as a real world example( post civil war). Or, would encounter similar problems former prisoners face today, reintegrating into society after paying their debt. Sex slaves today (even in the US) face similar difficulties and hopelessness when it comes to escaping slavery or paying back their "debtor". You'd basically have to start with nothing again. I don't imagine you would be able to keep your job, home, possessions after becoming a slave, especially after being removed from where you live and being shipped to somewhere else in the galaxy, with no money and no contacts, possibly not even speaking the same language when you get to wherever your pilot/slaver took you . We haven't even considered the racial and ethnic implications here (notice the galaxy seems to have very few black people in charge with no black power players and only one black engineer). Slavery tended to fall toward ethnic divisions to determine who was a slave and who wasn't. Who was allowed to be the master and who was the servant usually had some foundations in race and ethnicity, and other racist bullshit. Also can't imagine most slaves being treated "nicely" given the countless examples you gave of them being treated as equivalent to cargo. Personally I find slavery morally abhorrent and won't ever touch them in game EVER. Too many other easy ways to make money. I won't even fuck with Etienne since I don't know what the fuck he's doing with those occupied escape pods. Slavery's inclusion in Elite is sorta disgusting, especially since the moral opposite of freeing slaves isn't presented as a mission or activity type and the pilot is super far removed from the realities of it, turning them into an item on a manifest. It seems like a missed opportunity by the devs. You engage with power play, but you can't setup an underground railroad. You can't buy slaves to set them free somewhere else. Even if it is a game, it's still gross, especially the way people joke and fantasize about it... But I guess that's more telling of the people playing and the choices they would make given the opportunity. There are quite a few studies in ethics linking peoples play style in games reflecting their level of ethics in every day life. One example looked at ceos and other executives cheating in games such as golf or squash and exhibiting similar behaviors in the work place, lying or significantly embellishing their job applications, or using deception and manipulation in the work place to get ahead, more so their those that didn't choose to cheat. So not entirely sure if in game behavior and rational is too dissimilar from the choices people make in everyday life. Not saying that everyone who picks the robber would necessarily go out and rape, murder and steal, but when tested and presented with ethical dilemmas I wonder what they'd probably choose, especially with smaller situations where they might be able to act with some degree of impunity. The sandbox in Elite is interesting, especially with regards to the ethical and moral implications its presents but with alot of issues in game, Frontier doesn't seem to look at them too deeply. I think if they did they'd really have something special, especially if CMDR's were confronted more with the morality of their decisions and we got to see the human costs and scale of things in the universe. Maybe one day if we get space legs we'll be able to get more up close and personal with the universe and people can reconsider the stories the want to tell in game.
Been playing Elite Dangerous off and on since beta. I have the top ranks of both Empire and Federation. My character has never once willingly traded slaves. I think I did it once because an engineer mission required it. I can't role play a slaver. I kill them in every game that allows me to do so.
Not voluntarily? A mission required it? You didn't have to do the mission, you choose to voluntarily. You can lie to yourself, because you choose to believe it. I don't, so your lie is readily apparent!
We need to start a new bubble on the complete otherside of the map where slavery is legal everywhere right now most of the factions outlaw slavery it's soo vanilla.
Dude please keep making these videos. I'm a returned noob to Elite and your videos have made me excited about the game again with your insight, intelligence and love for the game. Thank you
I'd like to note that in Imperial society, having a debt is considered dishonorable, so there's a massive social pressure to enter slavery if you have one you can't pay. Which I'd argue isn't voluntary at all, since not doing it will ruin your reputation.
My character is an Imperial Trader based out of Achenar. As long as it's legal in our systems I'm going to make those credits. But honestly even I don't like Zemina Torval.
10 seconds in and you're talking like some high school student who is beginning to learn what the fuck slavery is. Lets be fair, current societal standards view slavery in any form as wrong. But if that wasn't the case? Then slavery isn't wrong because society would determine it so. Now when we talk about the KINDS of slavery that exist, that's a topic in itself. In E:D specifically, you have slaves and Imperial slaves. Imperial slaves are guess what? Still free people. In the Imperial society, they still have their rights and liberties as if they were not. An Imperial slave is bound by contract, not by force like a typical slave. Something else to mention too is that, Imperial Slaves, dictated by Imperialist societies, are to be taken care of with the fullest of abilities; Food, water, shelter, income, etc.. When it comes to slavery in the Empire, most places have slavery outlawed outright, but Imperial slavery still being standard and normal. How do you become an Imperial Slave? When you owe someone money but you cant pay them back, you work for them by contract. In turn, they by law are to take care of you. And by law, no Imperial slave can remain a permanent slave (because at some point, they have to be unbound by that contract), and must have an "end date." For whatever it is that they signed the contract for, their work for whom they owe will reward them what is agreed upon. You want to buy property from someone, but cant afford it? Work for them to obtain the said property: Imperial slavery. Bought a new Sidewinder and now need to pay off a loan? Work for em to pay it off. All the while by law, you must be taken care of because you're still a Imperial citizen. When it comes to straight up slavery, that implies you're NOT a Imperial citizen, of which case, you're just a slave, which funny enough? Most places in the Empire, or probably all Empire controlled locations, have slavery outlawed. I say most because there is this one particular leader in the Empire that does not quite take good care of even Imperial slaves, and she has an attitude like a bitter old lady (you can probably guess who I'm referring to). Now lets talk about slavery in the Federation. Forget to pay your bills? Lose your property. Go bankrupt? Sorry, no can help. Owe someone money? Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do. Fact is, most Federal citizens are impoverished, littered with crime and poverty. In the Federation, you always owe someone money at any given point. That? Is slavery, and that isn't talked about enough (going off real life that is), but since this is a video game, I'll keep it in this topic. The Federation is run by corporations, corporations that have no desire for anything other than to make money. Nickel and dime if you will... because they must, because they wish, because they demand it. It should be of no surprise that in the lore of E:D, many Federal colonies switched to the Empire because the Empire was willing to help them grow, expand, and survive, while the Federation just sent them off and expected them to fend for themselves. And when the colony became big enough, or noteworthy enough, the Federation then would send support. But by that time, the said colony would no doubt have had plenty of offers to join the Empire, or the Alliance... or a thought of just going independent because clearly, the Feds didn't care all too much about them. Edit: So I continued on, and noticed you went into what I said already... XD Anyway, something to add to Slavery A: How do they get home? Easy... sell them to another Imperial station. Anywhere else, then you turn an Imperial slave into a outright slave.
Surely robot technology in this era should ensure human slaves are not required. I just bought this game, going to start on Friday with a new 4k TV. Elite was one of my favourite games for ZX Spectrum 48k back in the 80's, if the gameplay is excellent the graphics don't matter. Elite in simple vector graphics needed human imagination.
We are kidding ourselves if we believe that slavery, if permitted in this day and age, wouldn't be a normalized industry practiced by countries we know well. My example, India. India is a signatory on the 'Universal Declaration of Human Rights document which outlines that it will not practice slavery, nor commence in economic agreements with countries that do. Yet the Dalite, are in fact slaves. Cursory searches will reveal story after story and there are entire websites dedicated to freeing their slaves. But because India has a Caste system of society, we look the other way. Well that, and the fact they are an emerging market. Slavery exists, and it's a fucking joke to believe that we will put a human life ahead of corporate and economic supremacy.
Slave trade? My go-to grind is a Keelback loaded with Cobalt in LTT 7768. Going back and forth between Kwolek Hub and Parise Gateway *in the same system* with over a million credits of profit each load. Can't get any easier than that.
I wanted to be a morally gray smuggler from the start, but I've roleplayed my way into essentially being an entirely amoral slaver. I even made my character look as repulsive as his trade, and the Keelback he flies has seen better days. I was able to finance a Krait MKII through buying illicit slaves for like 1700cr in one station and selling them to a military dictatorship colony in a neighboring system for 17,000cr a piece. I repeated that process until their entire stock of slaves was exhausted.
You must be joking. What an asinine statement. Slavery is more popular now than ever before. Slavery has not dwindled with time ..... know your facts ...
Cam honestly say that I haven't ever intentionally broken the law in Elite never traded illicit goods or attacked anyone other than pirates and bounty targets. I made every credit to my name by doing hard honest work or exploring the galaxy. Sol to the Colsack. Colsack to the witch-head. Etc.
Its not wrong to trade in slaves, you're actually doing them a favor by buying their ticket out of their current station. What if they want to be useful but cant work in their current station due to their status?
When the game first came out, slave trade was the Metta. Its not my fault Fdev made it the most profitable commodity. All the slaves i ejected into space is on me tho.
@@ВиталяКекс-ц6е It is neither good, nor evil, for it can be used for good and can be abused. In Biblical times, it was a form of mercy, for a defeated people and integrating them into your own society, allowing them to live and continue their existence.
@@southernknight9983 Bible says to “kill all boys, then all men, then all non-virgin women, leave the virgins for your own amusement” when you capture a city Not to mention in 3300, that’s not very needed to say the least.
@@ВиталяКекс-ц6е Yes. Genocide was very normal back in those days. It's how people survived back then, by wiping out the enemy, entirely, so they can't do it back to you. To leave women and children alive, to fend for themselves, was a far more grueling death from starvation for there were no men to hunt and gather food for them. Slavery was thus, considered a merciful act of compassion for the survivors, integrating them into your own society. So you see, slavery can be a good thing. Slavery is just another tool for society, which , just like any other tool, can be used for good or bad things. Slavery in and of itself is not bad, nor evil. I am a little surprised at how some people think that it is evil, when it was completely normal, just a few hundred years ago, across the entire globe. Strange, isn't it?
Hey men I know it's not the right ting to do but what if is attack a tourist ship an get you own slaves it wil be a thing for pirates I don't know if it's possible but sound evil but cool
Once I'm done ranking up with he federation and I get my corvette im moving on t0o the empire and getting invovled in the slave trade. Gimme me da money
I’d pick up slaves and would keep them with me on exploration, you know, for company. They’d be partying on my Beluga at the bar and jacuzzi area (I’d even have Lavian Brandy, beer, tobacco, performance enhancers and food cargo so they wouldn’t run out.) I’d inspect the ship just before going home and if anyone burned any of my upholstery with cigarettes, I’d jettison them. All of them. There wouldn’t be any discussion about who burned the seats, they’d all be jettisoned (I run a tight ship). DO NOT mistake my hospitality for weakness, you ungrateful peasants. If they were respectful and didn’t damage anything, well at least I gave them the ride of their lives before being sold.
New player here I leave to go do this for some easy money and now the game won’t let me go back to my old home station quite near so I’m gonna be crashing at your old house for a while I can’t decline
Didn't touch the slave trade myself, started off as a bounty hunter, then an antisocial explorer addicted to caffeine and distracted by shiny planets and multiple alien ruins, then became a miner till my pilot had more money then what to do with, then became a mentor to a new commander, and ranked up in both Federation and Empire. During all that time, my Avatar changed between a middle aged man, and middle aged woman multiple times, so I guess my commander has kept the sex-change surgeon of the future very busy and very well paid.... Not sure what's going on in my commander's mind, but I'll just roll with it I guess... Not sure I want to know what my commander does in the cokpit while I'm logged out.... I blame a middle-aged life identity crisis. that's why I think my commander got the Pilots Federation License in the first place....
Nothing says black market trading like the screams of the 752 slaves in my cargo hold frying as i turn on silent running and barely get my type 9 through the mail slot at 180km/hr
