I have the 16" MTR on mine, from the factory. all my groups at 50 yards are within 1/2 inch. the targets are 25 1/4 inch circles and I hit 15 to 23 of the circles with Eley. my dad used to say that "a good rooster can sing in any chicken coup." the length of the barrel is irrelevant if you know your windage and elevation. use the flags correctly and you'll get there
Love my CZ 457 vptmtr, the 16” barrel works well for me with the suppressor as it keeps the overall length in check. Also seems to get decent velocity out of standard velocity ammo. Targets out to 280 are no issue, trying further targets soon. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I've got the same rifle, I absolutely love it. It makes the Ruger Precision I owned feel like a Red Ryder. I run a Gemtech on mine, yes the zero shifts.
I don't really like to give out a whole lot of praise to people shooting 22s because over a lifetime of shooting it just varies so much but you're very good I love your attitude your calm demeanor and you're one of the only guys that doesn't blame something else when you know one whole one shot goes out of the hole you say I might have pulled it it's a flyer which is usually the truth and it's refreshing to see that and hear that
I just purchased a used 457 pro varmint with the 16.5 barrel. Like you I wasnt a fan of that barrel but liked the threaded barrel. This is not an MTR. A guy at the range told me to throw a Ultradyne Apollo Max on it and it would improve the groups. He runs the range and said he had seen other guys do it and tighten their groups. I just happened to have one laying around loose and put it on. I really dont know what the deal is but it tightened up the groups. I dont shoot exotic ammo like you do and was shooting CCI Standard and Federal Auto Match that day. MOA or less at 100. I will try the 50 next time out. Love your page
Beautiful rifle! Good shooting. I saw one a couple months ago, went back to really check it out, and the shop tried to push off the VPT Camo as an MTR. I wasn't buying it. Nice gun, but I wanted the Match chamber. I'm with you on the 16" barrel. I like an 18-20" for handling and velocity. I managed to come across a CZ 457 Long Range Precision .22LR 20" Rifle. CZ-02380 It has the same Match chamber as the MTR. It's almost identical to the model sold in the UK less the big rubberized ball on the bolt handle and a muzzle brake. I really like the stock it comes in. It's not a Manners stock, but I believe it provides better options for the shooter; at least for me. And I'll probably get a 28 hole blued brake from Kidd to put on it. Happy shooting!
@@PursuitofAccuracy yes quiet is nice, I live in Canada and suppressors are illegal. And yeah the ballistics by the inch website shows some strange data where the same round will shoot slower out of a 17 inch barrel than a 16" but then also shoot faster from an 18" than a 17". I can attribute this to a final shockwave bouncing back from the chamber to the projectile around the 18" mark. But I'm not a scientist or a gunsmith haha. Either way, great videos dude. I just ordered my mtr recently after watching one of your video's, among others!
It's my second watch of this video. It is interesting to rewatch the evolution of your rifle after seeing all of your vids. I too don't like the 16" barrel appearance.
Great video Josh. Wish I had a range like yours in the backyard. Interesting, that it does well with the Center X ammo, my MTR loves the Sk rifle match ammo a little more. I shot a .34” at 50y and about .80 at 100y
I believe that cz helps you out on all the new equipment you have or you have a nice cash flow or you are like me just cant pass up the latest and greatest I have seven cz rifles now I have to get this one thanks Josh. But rest assured I love me some cz.
Actually, there is a version over this one with a different manners stock. It also has a adjustable cheek riser. It is the varmint precision trainer MTR 16". It retails for 1400.00.
CZ 457 Varmint MTR moved it from the beautiful wood stock to an Oryx chassis & love it. Might have a wood working friend take the wood stock & see about cutting the cheek piece out then use a couple of steel rods to make an adjustable cheek riser.
Have the exact rifle. Ive not found it to be particularly finicky with quality ammo. Ive managed MOA 5 strings with Remmington bucket stuff. With match ELY or SK sub MOA isnt a stretch. I dont however have the best glass ( most expensive). I use a Vortex HD 4×12. Great rifles for guys chasing groups.
Excellent review! I shoot exactly the same rifle/scope/rings/mount and riser. I do have the 16" barrel and it will shoot .349 all day with Lapua OSP, strange I know but the OSP seems to shoot better than Center X or RWS R50. RWS Special Match consistently groups will under half MOA. The real test is 25 shots, one shot each on a half-inch paster at 50 yards
Thank God there's somebody out there that's going to say 25 round groups I mean I I like to say 50 and then throw out a couple flyers and that's what that ammo's going to shoot in your gun clean the barrel if you change ammo and do it again so thank God somebody thinks 25 ground groups matter
I have the 16" version. I am on the fence about changing it to a 20". I have a varmint and love it. Both have a spot in my inventory. I do shoot the MTR more. I may pick a 20" and but the 16" on my varmint. I dont know. Great video. Thank you.
Now I want one for my mtr. Great video by the way . That’s a very accurate rifle for sure. But you half to factor in the shooter behind the rifle also . I think your a great shot sir .
I love that stock. My Mtr had the 16.5 barrel. Shot great. But balance to me was a issue. I have a lothar 18 on it now balance is much better. But I come from a using a weihrauch 660mm barrel. So its a adjustment when switching rifles.
I shoot the 457 Jaguar (28.5in barrel). 300 rounds of Eley Match through it...and I LOVE it. Shooting iron sights is humbling..i have shot a few sub 1/2 inch groups at 25 meters (2 MOA)
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the feedback I have the green one with think 20” barrel was thinking of replacing it with a threaded barrel. Have a suppressor if I ever get a stamp back. Trying to decide what barrel I want to go with.
Josh, is your barrel free floated all the way up to the action? My varmint MTR stock is, but when I swap the action into the Manners VPT. There is barrel contact about 1” from the receiver. Thanks for all the fun videos
A CZ 457 is the next firearm on my buy list, but I promised my self and my significant others that I would wait until my birthday six month's from now. (They did just let me buy a bolt action 300 Blackout) Promises. 😒 But hey, it gives me time to save up for exactly the one I want. 👍🏻 I'm a fan of aluminum chassis, so I'm thinking about the Varmint Precision Chassis MTR. Or maybe look for a used 457 American for the action and build one from there.
I watch ya quite a bit. I got varmint. Out of the box. Not the mtr. After around 350 rds 22lr) at 50. Mine shoots 1/4 to 3/8 all the time. 3/4 to 1 inch at 100. Mine is just the standard varmint. Norma tac. 1100fps. And gemtech 1020 fps. Mine didn't shoot with any consistency until that 300 to 400 rds. They really are an accurate tac driver. The trigger to me on these czs are what a guy has to know. Once you learn that the hit where you aim. Amazing accurracy for 5 bills. I've got an airmax 4 12 40 ao on top of mine. HAWKE. Seems to be a good combo. Like your videos. Maybe your wife will let you get that voodoo some day.😅😅😁😁. Great educational videos. Great work.
Really love my cv 457 vpt-mtr 16" mtr barrel works good for me mine likes norma 22 match, sk black box and lapua cx. I'm still looking for a lija barrel (going to move the mtr barrel to my pro varmint cz) and have been on the waiting list for a scar trigger for a year now
I have the Synthetic model. When i was researching the models it said online and in the paperwork when i picked it up that it had a match chambered barrel. So far, I've seen nothing to prove it's not a match chamber. If anyone can tell me otherwise....
Hey Josh, loving all your vids man. I used to run CZ's (452/453/455), then i thought i'd try a Bergara B-14R. It shoots ragged holes at 50 yards with SK Standard Plus, but i'll always have a soft spot for CZ. It's like you regularly say "It's personal preference". I read somewhere that .22 RF ammo gets a full burn at around 12"?, i'm guessing barrel length is what the shooter feels comfortable with. ATB from across the pond.
Nice info on the rifle. Do you not wear hearing protection? First 3-4 years of my shooting career i used crappy ear muffs and I now have tinnitus. Not counting the thousands of rounds I put down a 22 as a kid. Lost my high range and I'm not even 40 yet.
I wear ear pro when i get away from the subsonic match ammo. Should probably wear it all the time but the 22lr with the match ammo and longer barrels is so quiet
@@davep3163 typically a 400 or so depending on the barrel. I use a nylon brush and cotton patches. 2 wet patches with boretec, let it sit, nylon brush wet with boretec about a dozen times, then dry patches
For myself I will never put anything metal down my bores of any weapon.......It's always nylon brushes coupled with cotton patches......First I always use patches with some WD-40 and if that doesn't do it then it's Tetra gun solvent for 15 minutes then dry patch it out. For all my guns that will sit over the Illinois winters I use lots of Corrosion-X on a patch then when winter is over I dry patch each barrel again for the start of my shooting season.
Hey buddy awesome awesome, love this channel, what state are you in ? We are in tn and no cz stuff hardly at all, I have a 457 synthetic its a shooter about to go line up my new burris e1 6.5-20x50, replacing my 4-12 so hoping my groups shrink
My favorite model 457 is the Jaguar. I’ve not shot any ammo it doesn’t like yet and I’ve shot some crappy blazer, federal champion, and winchesters. The 12 groove rifling of the jaguar just loves everything. Best match ammo I’ve shot is eley match 1050 speed and Lapua Midas+ 26 speed. Liked the forst one so much I now have 3 Jaguars and none of them are picky about ammo at all.
Every ammo has shot MOA or stupid sub MOA groups so far in the Jaguars I own. Best groupings were with eley match the 1051 fps lot. 5 consecutive groups under .2 . I Honestly think the jaguar is a hidden gem in the 457 lineup.
I’ve had the pro varmint and MTR and since I got the first jaguar I’ve sold the other to buy more cats. Love those things a lot. You should get one for the channel.
Hate to burst your bubble, but the CZ site states the 16.5 inch barrel has a complete powder burn. Also its stiffer which will provide a better set of harmonics.
Excellent presentation. I agree with your assessment about a any barrel less than 20” will never be on any of my target rifles. I have a CZ and I would never put 16” barrel on even if CZ gave me the top of the line match barrel. Yes it is a personal preference 😉 it just looks weird too me 🤔
Recently started to look into CZ 457's and came across your channel. Love your content! I am currently in the market and would like an upper end CZ. Was looking into this model you are shooting as well as the CZ 457 VPC MTR and the CZ 457 VPT MTR. What are your thoughts on those?
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the reply! They all seem like they are so hard to come by! I have only had luck finding them on gunbroker and you pay premium price there. Any other suggestions on places to look?
I tend to like 24 or 26" barrels simply because they are so quiet. To me there is nothing more satisfying than plinking without ear pro and barely hearing a pop... Not that a 16" barrel is loud, but it's just a little more annoying
Good shooting. How would you compare that stock with the walnut stock? Better ergonomics? The reason I ask is I shoot the walnut mtr left handed and I’ve been looking for more of a ambidextrous option, although I’ve gotten used to it.
I like both but i think the manners is superior. Its inletting is tighter and the aluminum pillar beds are a step up from the plastic on the walnut mtr stock. Ergonomically the manners is better for me but im a righty......may feel different to you
When you changed the barrel on your custom rifle did you set it up to glue into action.read a build that talked a little about it, wanted to here your thought if that’s really necessary to get that 180yard aspirin/card splitting accuracy. Or do you leave it so you can do fast barrel changes
Is it necessary to clean the barrel , each time u change ammo for testing 🤔, I would figure on it wouldn't matter. Like in high end air gun they say most don't clean them. Seems like after a couple shots it would be self cleaning and want lead in barrel to fill any minor imperfections 🤔
Could you do a comparison video between this rifle the vptmtr and a B14R ? For the price of this CZ around 1500 compared to the b14r around 900. Which one shoots the best? Thanks
I have a cz457 VPT. I am looking to upgrade the barrel on it. Between your mtr barrel with its preferred best ammo and the lilja barrel with it preferred best ammo at around 200yds, which is the better more accurate option? Is the difference between the two significant? The lilja barrel is roughly $200 more than the cz mtr barrel. Thanks for the videos and info thus far!!!
I think the lilja is worth the extra $$ just because you can set the headspace on it. The eley match has been best out of both the mtr barrel and the lilja. Hope this helps
Not sure, but I thought max velocity for 22 came somewhere between a 16" and 18" inch barrel. Doesn't CZ say that 20" and 24" barrels are mostly about balance and aesthetic preference, not necessary for .22 lr accuracy.
@@PursuitofAccuracy So in what way is a longer barrel better for results when the gun is used with a scope? Or do you just like longer than 16" barrels?
If i was changing barrels ,i wouldnt use another CZ barrel .I would get a custom made barrel known for 22rf accuracy . I have bore scoped a lot of CZ barrels and there are flaws in all of them
I have a lilja in my competition 457. The lilja outshoots the mtr barrel but the mtr is no slouch and i sometimes shoot in priduction and have to have a bone stock rifle for that class
Hey mate, I have a CZ 457 AT - One in an container traveling to Australia. I’m told it’s CZ developed for Australia, imported through Winchester. I’ve noticed you’ve never viewed a barrel tuner. Would you consider a tuner worth the expense. I was looking at an EC tuner. But with a varmit barrel at 16 inches, would you consider it worth while. Cheers
We havent even got to the real expensive stuff yet.......but certainly a cz 452 is a very accurate rifle. My rifles are purpose built for prs style shooting
I have the regular VPT that came with the 16.5 barrel. Was shooting sub .300 groups at 50 yards and at 100 yards maybe averaging 1" or so. Switched to the 20" MTR barrel and my 50yard groups opened up a little to just under .400 but the 100 yard is better at 3/4" average with a few ammos. Any ideas about why the 16.5" falls off past 50 yards?
Nothing scientific. Rimifre is finicky and you will see ammo do that quite often. I find ammo that sucks at 50 and beats everything else i have at 200 yards.
Its hard to say honestly. There are so many factors at that distance. Typically a vudoo or rimx do start pulling away at 200+ yards because of the controlled feed but the cz feed is so smooth im not sure how much gain there actually is. I do plan on going vudoo vs cz at around 300 yards soon. Jons vudoo and his new ammo shoots the same SD my cz and its ammo shoots so i think thats the best way to test that.
@@PursuitofAccuracy Most accurate rimfires I have are both BSA made. One is a Century and the other a International MK2. Happy shooting and catch you next time.
Very nice Rifles I have one myself and I have the Precision varmint trainer I replace the barrel with a match barrel that comes treaded and it’s also Fluted makes the rifle look really cool Tacticool About the test how come everybody test at 50 yards and claim half MOA or better I think it’s misleading because you can duplicate that at 100 yards then again maybe I just got lucky but my rifle can print under one MOA at 100 yards with SK standard plus and SK target i’m too cheap to buy the Gucci ammo
With the match ammo i generally shoot if its sub moa at 50 its also sub moa at 100 yards. Most precision 22lr with the right match ammo are capable of half moa at 100 yards.
@@tiltedflip4491 im not sure how i thought i could put golf tees in the target hanger and not expect myself to try and shoot them.....🤣🤣 Im easily distracted and somehow my 52 yard backstop seems to be a dragon fly landing pad......... you can guess what the end result is there
It reminds me of the time that I actually had a range officer come up to me real nasty and said you can't shoot that here no suppressed rifles on the range that's internally suppressed 30 caliber I know a 30 caliber hole when I see one and I was shooting at 50 yards and I had to tell the guy now you don't know what you know you think you know you're looking at it customized Ruger 10/22 and a 50 round group yep it's a 30 caliber hole but just 50 rounds through that hole go somewhere else and bother somebody else not me
@@PursuitofAccuracy I agree with you and I told him that but only thing I can say in his defense was it was a real long time ago and there weren't many people putting aftermarket barrels on ruger's and shooting groups that size I mean I've been doing it for a long time I wish I could experience what you do I just again I keep singing your praises because of the way you talk and the way you go about shooting you know you're you're doing it the right way I think you're one of the best on RU-vid
@@PursuitofAccuracy I wanted to ask you I'm sorry if it bothers you but I just wanted a question answered when you said that semi-automatics made damage the tip of the bullet or part of the bullet and that may affect its long range accuracy is it that or is it that bolts are just more consistent and how they chambered around and and hold the round before it's fired
@@PursuitofAccuracy and one thing I'd like to say too and this is probably going to be the end of me talk bothering you about it but I equate sometimes shooting like playing pool there's some nights where I seems like I couldn't miss a shot and I'd win many games and then maybe two or three nights later it would be just the opposite I would find it hard to make what I thought were easy shots and it always made me wonder why that was but it's just I think your brain is telling you you're doing the right thing but your hand I coordination isn't really right I guess so shooting tight groups constantly is probably just hard to do no matter what
Are you referring to when im switching ammo or just shot to shot? I really havent noticed any poi shift out of what would be normal for the circumstance.
@@PursuitofAccuracy no I'm referring to when your shooting the same ammo and u move from one target to the next. Some groups you will be at 7 o clock on the target, then some u will be at at 1 o clock or 3 o clock. To me that poi shifts, At farther distances this would cause huge severe accuracy variations. Just my thoughts
Every lot of center x is different. I had an older lot that would shoot .2's in my mtr and this new lot is pretty consistent at .3-.4 Also camera seems to ruin groups lol. Heard a lot of good things about the 452's, sounds like you have a keeper!
