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Maye Muses
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#fatherdivine #cult #blackhistorymonth
Hello, RU-vid! So good to see you again. This is probably my favorite video to date. Rate My Cult - Black History Month Edition!!! We're discussing Father Divine and the International Peace MISSION Movement. (I kept saying Peace Movement. Please, forgive me.)
What do you think about Father Divine's movement? Had you learned about him before?
Here are some links to more information.
Father's Kingdom Documentary - • Father's Kingdom
(This is free with ads on Tubi)
The International Peace MISSION Movement's RU-vid
/ @divinejubilee
A great write up at World Religions and Spirituality
wrldrels.org/2016/10/08/fathe...

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@CN-lm9sf
@CN-lm9sf 2 года назад
Im just loving how these young youtubers getting on here and educating the world. What a positive way to do social media
@kabirsinghsardar7893
@kabirsinghsardar7893 2 года назад
hopefully they speak the truth and not made up history like most on SM
@kabirsinghsardar7893
@kabirsinghsardar7893 Год назад
@Shocka Zoolander I got love for you, I hope you don't take what I say badly, i just think you have a point and could get it out to the point but that's just me G. keep going for your goal and we can always talk about things I don't mind. and I wanna say again you have good points, try to not dilute things so much, you have the power to make the change. Believe, love and Happiness always :)
@kabirsinghsardar7893
@kabirsinghsardar7893 Год назад
@Shocka Zoolander awoman sister, peace and love :)
@aleyahmalone5012
@aleyahmalone5012 Год назад
As long as they do their research well
@steamfox6877
@steamfox6877 Год назад
Is that right? How old are you?
@garrettc8490
@garrettc8490 2 года назад
I'm a 66 YO Black man. My grandfather was a devoted follower of Father Devine. I visited Father Devine's beautiful estate several times with my grandfather as a young child. I carried a picture of Father and Mother Devine in my wallet through out my early 20's. My grandfather never explained to me who and what Father Devine represented. However, my grandfather was such a strong fixture in my life that I accepted his beliefs, no questions ask. My grandfather lived to be in his late 90's. He was an intelligent black man who headed a loving and successful family.
@jackb1969
@jackb1969 2 года назад
As a follower, it's interesting since your grandfather obviously wasn't abstinent
@toniward2182
@toniward2182 2 года назад
@@jackb1969 … Father Devine promoted White Supremacy
@toniward2182
@toniward2182 2 года назад
How does one RENOUNCE RACE… SCHIZOPHRENIA !…. That’s how.
@jackb1969
@jackb1969 2 года назад
@@toniward2182 huh??? There are nationalities and ethnicities. However, truly race is a false construct of oppression.
@thisisrareform
@thisisrareform 2 года назад
@@jackb1969 they don't know the difference
@lisaspikes4291
@lisaspikes4291 2 года назад
Isn’t it a tragedy that when someone comes up with a good idea, like peace, and integration, it always gets perverted into a crazy cult? If only there would be a group that does all the good things, but doesn’t demand crazy things from the members and doesn’t become corrupt.
@Artliker1234
@Artliker1234 2 года назад
Human beings are evil in their essence
@budellababy
@budellababy 2 года назад
I don't understand it either...
@Arguewityamama
@Arguewityamama 2 года назад
I blame the fact that so many who claim to be about “peace” and “Justice” always end up being crooks… look up Jim Jones for reference
@gloriadeyemi
@gloriadeyemi 2 года назад
If he was white, we would have known about him and studied him
@ricanredru4760
@ricanredru4760 2 года назад
@@gloriadeyemi you just answered your own question. People know virtually nothing about this father divine and yet the biggest irony is Jim Jones himself was an early admirer and follow her of his philosophy until he appropriated for his own devilish purposes. People forgot about father Divine but yet people remember the notorious Jim Jones
@rileyboy66
@rileyboy66 2 года назад
I have been watching cult documentaries for years and have never even heard of this man! Thank you for bringing this story to the world!
@tyson345lion4
@tyson345lion4 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ncUfvuUlvW0.html this is one of his speeches if you are curious
@runoz2839
@runoz2839 Год назад
SERIOUSLY... Wow. You ever seen, Car Wash ? this is who Richard Pryor character was based off of
@SunflowerVibe329
@SunflowerVibe329 2 года назад
I just asked my Grandmom who will be 90 in December if she remembers this ... She told me the ate dinner at his restaurant for 15 cent and at his barber shops the hair cuts were 10 center . She told me that she learned how to sew at one of his programs
@perfectpeterpan
@perfectpeterpan 2 года назад
I love how quiet and straight to the detail your video is. No inconsiderate music in the background or dramatic animated expressions. This allows a wider audience to be able to stand your video.
@darealmccoi9780
@darealmccoi9780 2 года назад
100 agree! Well said
@murtithinker7660
@murtithinker7660 2 года назад
You vibe like myself. I hate animations or video memes showing all sorts of people except the person the video is actually about. Background music too can be annoyingly distracting.
@wyattspears8922
@wyattspears8922 2 года назад
What a waste of RU-vid airtime blah blah blah a nothingburger
@cw2424
@cw2424 2 года назад
Yes I agree 💯
@willitadoh6244
@willitadoh6244 2 года назад
And YES you’re RIGHT 👏👏👏RAW🇩🇪💪💪💪👌Lovely,educative Exposé👏👏👏❤️
@arisschenck1164
@arisschenck1164 2 года назад
I'm from Newark,NJ and his hotel still stand. It's a historic building and was remodeled. It also been renamed. All the elders still call it Father Divine Hotel. The city still rent to the poor. My mom talked about him all the time.
@pradaguccifendichanel2619
@pradaguccifendichanel2619 2 года назад
Do you mind telling me what is it called today I live in Newark Nj
@83wasagoodyear
@83wasagoodyear 2 года назад
My family is deeply rooted in the Peace Mission. Father Divine bought my great grandparents a mansion in Newark back in the day. I've been to many banquets.
@Hborn
@Hborn Месяц назад
What street
@ivanawilliams279
@ivanawilliams279 2 года назад
I'm watching this and my mother face called me rite now and I asked if she heard of him and she's telling me exactly what is being said by the young lady, interesting. My momma actually ate there all the time!!!! She didn't join, she actually gave him much credit for helping others and encouraging them to do the same. It's interesting how he knew my great grandfather and they talked all the time!!!! I probably would have never known unless I wouldn't have come across this interesting video.
@cdub2751
@cdub2751 2 года назад
Wow! Whats the odds?👍🏾👍🏾
@MikeJones-rm8xm
@MikeJones-rm8xm 2 года назад
I'm from Philly and they still have buildings here. My dad told me stories of how he ate there because they had meals that were extremely cheap.
@larronbuchanan1677
@larronbuchanan1677 2 года назад
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@leslieglenn5067
@leslieglenn5067 2 года назад
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@murtithinker7660
@murtithinker7660 2 года назад
Now a man can't succeed in starting such a movement because they would send a woman to seduce the man and create scandals about the encounter, whether he is married or not.
@kennethgivens8683
@kennethgivens8683 2 года назад
Langston Hughes wrote a character based on him in his book “the ways of white folks”
@crystalspraggins270
@crystalspraggins270 2 года назад
Was that "Rejuvenation Through Joy?"
@keenafromphilly
@keenafromphilly 2 года назад
many Renaissance era novels did
@kennethgivens8683
@kennethgivens8683 2 года назад
@@crystalspraggins270 yes ma’am it was!!!
@crystalspraggins270
@crystalspraggins270 2 года назад
@@kennethgivens8683 Thank you! I haven't read this book in years and just pulled it from the shelf. I remember loving it.
@GodCreatedBlack
@GodCreatedBlack 2 года назад
I have that book! I am going to pull it out.
@DimplesDontLie
@DimplesDontLie 2 года назад
i really need everyone black to spread this, teach your kids.. it's no accident he's omitted from history texts. and if we let it, the history will be erased.. i can only imagine how many other things haven't been told to us
@louhortonsculpture
@louhortonsculpture 2 года назад
Yeah if it wasn’t for RU-vid, I would know this! And I’ve been following podcasts and RU-vidrs with cult content for several years.
@damc8415
@damc8415 2 года назад
"Father Devine" was no Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X or Martin Luther King. So, don't drink that poisoned Kool-Aid.
@roleat
@roleat 2 года назад
99.9% of history is lost intentionally
@christineperez7562
@christineperez7562 Год назад
You have to go to the library and read books and do research.
@frostempress4176
@frostempress4176 2 года назад
This is my first time hearing of this cult but as for Jim jones…He took away two aunts I never got the chance to meet,I have no words for him but as for others I hope they don’t get pulled into these types of things anymore.Also this was well put together I like your content❤
@milimdestroyer9058
@milimdestroyer9058 Год назад
I have watch many times jim jones tragedy in from Philippines Godbless and always Pray for your aunt peace.and evryone who died and the children.
@frostempress4176
@frostempress4176 Год назад
@@milimdestroyer9058 thank you so much,I hope you have a wonderful rest of your week
@jamesbennett5587
@jamesbennett5587 Год назад
Most of the people in Jim Jones cult was with father divine before joining Jim Jones
@terrancelittle3652
@terrancelittle3652 Год назад
He took away ?
@frostempress4176
@frostempress4176 Год назад
@@terrancelittle3652 you can’t say certain words on RU-vid anymore
@BlessedBeyondCompare
@BlessedBeyondCompare 3 года назад
I have so much admiration for you Maye. Strong, intelligent, incredibly talented. Girl can ACT, can WRITE, can PAINT. It's just too much. You are phenomenal and I am here for it!!!!
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy all my upcoming projects
@BlessedBeyondCompare
@BlessedBeyondCompare 3 года назад
@@MayeMuses Already hyped. :D :D :D
@barrybrown611
@barrybrown611 2 года назад
Maye I heard something about another preacher similar to Father Divine... I haven't looked him up but heard of him, the name is Sweet Daddy he was also around the time frame of Father Divine...
@PERC_ANGLE.96
@PERC_ANGLE.96 2 года назад
@@barrybrown611 sweet daddy grace ( The House of prayer for all people)
@jimflipz4774
@jimflipz4774 2 года назад
@@MayeMuses what is your Instagram
@setapart4god50
@setapart4god50 2 года назад
I grew up in Philadelphia and when I was a young child my mom took me to one of his restaurants and the food and atmosphere was absolutely wonderful. My mom said they called him Daddy Divine.
@marquita182
@marquita182 2 года назад
Those are two different people….there’s Father Divine & Daddy Grace
@teetalksthereal
@teetalksthereal 2 года назад
Omg he still has a church here in Virginia and they still cook, they also still have his throne chair and everything.
@greenhousefun3235
@greenhousefun3235 2 года назад
I remember going to eat in S. Philly for a very small amount of money. . Then we would walk to S. Street
@ms.jewell8154
@ms.jewell8154 2 года назад
I remember eating there also when I was a child and my mom was broke
@karenwomble2640
@karenwomble2640 2 года назад
Me too.I am 68yrs old.born and raised in West Philly.One Easter,my father and mother took me,and my 2 younger brothers to see the Ten Commandments downtown,followed by Easter dinner at father Devine’s restaurant.Modesty was a must,and there was to be no wasting of food.The food was great.
@Street215Philly
@Street215Philly 2 года назад
I'm born & raised in North Philly. I also read about this as a kid and my parents told me about this organization. They also had a restaurant that feed a ton of people at the lowest prices. There so much more to this. Thanks for bringing this up.
@KandeeKane85
@KandeeKane85 2 года назад
Omg I was not expecting to sit through the entirety of this! Nicely presented and relatable! 🥰🥰 ty!
@feleciagoldson2834
@feleciagoldson2834 2 года назад
Celibacy is the ultimate form of empowerment. When you cut off your sexual desire's, it empowers you to control every aspect of your life. Smoking, drinking, toxic people. It's not about sexual, deprivation. It's the beginning to finding God, yourself, and becoming your bestfriend.🙏🏾🕊
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 2 года назад
Any true path to God is a good thing
@lhu6971
@lhu6971 2 года назад
@@MayeMuses i live a Christian life. I've been celibate for 21 yrs. I'm 54. An important aspect i haven't conquered and that's fasting. Any advice?
@grannyklampit1710
@grannyklampit1710 2 года назад
@@lhu6971 do your research first.
@makebacunningham6795
@makebacunningham6795 2 года назад
You better say that!!❤️
@djyua9157
@djyua9157 2 года назад
That can’t be true I’m a big believer in God I don’t think he would have made sex just as important as eating if he didn’t want us to do it it’s a basic human need also nowhere in the Bible does it say sex is wrong just sexual immorality
@jaybrown2099
@jaybrown2099 2 года назад
He had the best store in my neighborhood growing up in the 70's it was called PEACE they sold everything, from candy, toys , sewing patterns, household items.
@chelseaderks2015
@chelseaderks2015 2 года назад
“Oh the wife’s thinking thoughts, must be a crime involved” is literally soooo on point. Like that should be a saying
@heidih3048
@heidih3048 2 года назад
I love your presentations style and dry sense of humor! I just discovered your channel with this video, and look forward to exploring the eclectic and thought-provoking content!
@angelasims7377
@angelasims7377 3 года назад
My Mom (who is actually 100 and a 1/2 yrs old) spoke about what a movement it was and how the pentecostals hated him for the lack of humility...thanks for this!
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
Wow, what an amazing resource.
@angelasims7377
@angelasims7377 3 года назад
It's a pretty interesting and cool experience, for sure! Thanks, and keep posting! 😀
@americanintrovert7087
@americanintrovert7087 2 года назад
@@MayeMuses highly intelligent con artist.
@blackapples4744
@blackapples4744 2 года назад
Angela…. Lack of humility?! There is jealousy in the world. Isn’t it. I never heard of him until now.
@SirenScorpio
@SirenScorpio 2 года назад
God Bless your Mom... I hope she still with you ❤️
@susanpepper8854
@susanpepper8854 2 года назад
Ive often wondered if a cult leader set out to develop a cult following, or if they truly had good intentions that grew into something bad.
@christinan6450
@christinan6450 2 года назад
I truly believe he was deceived & he believed every word he was speaking. I can remember my mom & dad laughing at the things he said because his statements were so outrageous! On the 1 hand he claimed to follow the Bible; on the other hand he would totally go against the Bible. Many of his followers were loyal to him because he fed, clothed, employed them, etc. So I wonder if his good deeds were just to keep people tied to him, rather than pure benevolence.
@rahrah2956
@rahrah2956 2 года назад
@@christinan6450 You are so WRONG you don't even know how wrong you are. You didn't even know him! Just running off at your mouth about what you DO NOT KNOW. GOD GO LEARN SOMETHING!
@lavellebrooks2706
@lavellebrooks2706 2 года назад
They were planted by the devil.. Matthew 13:37-39
@miahconnell23
@miahconnell23 2 года назад
YES. I’ve had that thought too (my Dad tried to raise me into one of the more sketchy ‘Christian, but our church has a Very-Special-Leader’ churches). [It made me suspicious of all people in charge of anything.] I wonder if Jim Jones started out altruistically and then became drunk on power and became a megalomaniac tyrant. He was an unusual character at the start, though (JJ was). Somebody [perhaps Maye Muses] should do a comparative analysis of Father Divine, Jones, Joseph Smith, and a couple more and narrow down exactly where charlatan-ism enters. And yah, I bet some cult-leaders DO start out on day 1 with that ‘I wanna be the special-guy-in-charge’ issue 🤔
@lavellebrooks2706
@lavellebrooks2706 2 года назад
Every tree is known by the fruit it bear.. A lemon tree cannot grow apples and a plum tree can't grow oranges. Neither can a good tree bring forth evil fruit and a evil tree can't bring forth good fruit... Just because a person gives doesn't mean that they are doing it with the good intentions
@TheJakecakes
@TheJakecakes 7 месяцев назад
Grew up in Philly, never heard of this man until studying the Jim Jones case. This story is unreal and so suppressed.
@1eradney
@1eradney 2 года назад
This is the one of the best series and presentation I have ever seen! Your humor is well appreciated and awesome in your delivery and profound knowledge dissemination ❤️🌹
@MichelleSmith-zx2fk
@MichelleSmith-zx2fk 2 года назад
When you said “elderly people love young people who are polite and help them with electronics” 😂…Truth
@lab5896
@lab5896 2 года назад
I live in Philadelphia and have had many of delicious meals from his restaurants. However, he used those people. They had to give him all of their money, change their name, and do exactly what he said. Abstinence with married people is crazy as hell. I know a previous member of his cult and the only persons that profited was Father and Mother. He controlled their minds. They actually believed that he was God and that he would arise like Jesus. Damn shame that people are so vulnerable.
@andretobias2439
@andretobias2439 2 года назад
She's supposed to control your damn mind just like he did what the hell y'all talking about he control their mind what happened to common Sense mother whip and the way y'all follow Donald Trump I don't know seems like the same animal to me
@polomartinez1
@polomartinez1 2 года назад
Aio,
@ivanawilliams279
@ivanawilliams279 2 года назад
Sounds kinda like The American Slave trade!!! That's the same exact thing except under duress.
@ianayler5418
@ianayler5418 2 года назад
@@ivanawilliams279 You Talking Nonsense, Just foolish of you say something silly. go learn about Black American History. This can't not be compare to slavery. Just silly
@itsbwashbabi
@itsbwashbabi 2 года назад
He got restaurants in phily? Where at
@theunexplained2855
@theunexplained2855 2 года назад
It’s crazy I found this video. I was just learning about him from my grandpa. My grandpa said meeting father Devine was the first time his father had a conversation with a white person. For all the things father Devine did and was accused of. What he was preaching was absolute gold.
@jazminemichelle8192
@jazminemichelle8192 2 года назад
I first became fascinated with Cult History back in high school when I took Psychology 1 and Jim Jones was the 1st cult we were taught about. How ironic the 1st video I see of yours has a little segment about him 🤯. I’m Here to stay now 😂
@jeromeosills6522
@jeromeosills6522 2 года назад
Are you fascinated by cult history or just Jim Jones? When it comes to any kind of leader Jim Jones is bottom of the barrel. in fact Jones was no leader he just thought he was.
@pausetapemedia7942
@pausetapemedia7942 2 года назад
Father Divine has been a taboo in our culture and in America. He was the first to do what ministries today has a matter of fact he was the blue print
@linpin1843
@linpin1843 2 года назад
RU-vid algorithms are awesome! Glad your video popped up - it was great!
@ericaneal5152
@ericaneal5152 2 года назад
My grandma was a follower of Father Divine. All I can say is what she taught me from what she learned from him, YES! Thoughts create things and the Law of Attraction/The Secret/ The Law of Assumption is REAL. Because of her teaching me what she learned during that New Thought Movement I have been able to CREATE. It is all in the Bible, if you know how to read it. We are GOD!
@coolbreeze6532
@coolbreeze6532 2 года назад
"We are God..." can't get much more demonic than that.
@FIRING_BLIND
@FIRING_BLIND 2 года назад
What do you say to the idea that the Law of Attraction can only truly work for privileged ppl (ppl who aren't poor, ppl who are mostly white, etc.)? I've seen many discuss how the barriers put in place as part of classism and racism really prevent the Law of Attraction from working on a big scale for many, many ppl
@powertothetubers456
@powertothetubers456 2 года назад
You did a great job on this and it reflects in your views. I am now a subscriber and look forward to more of your work. I never knew who Father Divine was until now and you're the one who taught me. If only school teachers taught like this, people would be more interested in history 😆. Keep up the good work
@shawnschoonmaker
@shawnschoonmaker 2 года назад
His ministry fed my mom in Harlem back in the 30's and an old Jewish friend said Father Devine retrieved his stolen truck filled of watermelon. I respect his efforts.
@aja1108
@aja1108 2 года назад
I know of him because of the masons I've connected with in NYC. I'm born in the 80s.
@wavybump
@wavybump 2 года назад
@@aja1108 was he a Mason?
@aja1108
@aja1108 2 года назад
@@wavybump he probably belonged to the Prince Hall Masons. It was fairly new then and very prominent.
@dickcheney2470
@dickcheney2470 2 года назад
Kwamwe Nkrumah, the first president of Ghana was a starving student back in the 30's. He got free food from Father Devine's church.
@shawnschoonmaker
@shawnschoonmaker 2 года назад
Next interesting gentleman, share info on Sweet Daddy Grace.
@CCLXII
@CCLXII 3 года назад
I did some research on Jim Jones and always heard him referring to father Devine. I now know exactly who he was referencing. Thanks for the enlightenment
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
You're welcome. These things are interwoven
@jennifergrant5422
@jennifergrant5422 2 года назад
Thank you... For this information... You heard of 3GODS CULT 2022🤔
@aliamichelle_
@aliamichelle_ 2 года назад
My Mom talks about Father Divine every time we pass by the Divine Lorraine Hotel. She is usually very vague as it was before her time so I had to hop on this vid to hear the whole story. I’m going to share this with her! Thank you!
@florencedebear1576
@florencedebear1576 2 года назад
I'm 70 and I remember Father Divine and Sweet Daddy Grace. Glad you shared your research. It's important that young people talk to their elders so they don't have to assume we never heard of these people.
@slr8170
@slr8170 2 года назад
This is so interesting, my grandma said a few days ago that they would go to the Divine Lorraine Hotel in Philadelphia and hear him “preach” she has Alzheimer’s but when I mentioned that they turned the hotel into apartments she remembered him!
@Fee-Fee
@Fee-Fee 2 года назад
I hope this helps. I worked with Alzheimer’s patients and they may not remember you but they remember their youth. If you want to learn about their youth and how life was for them, they can tell great stories. Appreciate these times even if they have no idea of you are. I enjoyed working with these people. It was not easy but I was young and move quickly when needed. I hope this helps you.
@slr8170
@slr8170 2 года назад
@@Fee-Fee thank you, my grandmother has full moments of lucidity and has a better long term memory than short term, she knows all of us and has a lot of stories lol I wasn’t surprised that she started talking about going to The Divine Lorraine I was more surprised that it popped up for me to watch this afterwards.
@tyana_allday
@tyana_allday 2 года назад
Oh my goodness! I grew up in Philly and never knew the history behind that hotel. It was a very prominent structure on Broad Street! Thanks so much for making this connection.
@BoomsMom09
@BoomsMom09 2 года назад
That building was beautiful, the sign was still on top of the dilapidated for 30+ years. I had always been fascinated about what things used to be or looked like, that building always seemed mysterious to me, always wondered who Lorraine was lol. Now it’s luxury apartments that most regular folk can’t afford to live it. Has a middle court yard with balconies, beautiful original architecture.
@QueenKahli1999
@QueenKahli1999 2 года назад
Whats with the name Loraine.. the Loranie is where MLK was murdered.
@MC-ym3lz
@MC-ym3lz 3 года назад
Buddha had a son before he became a monk, so after Buddha became successful in building his religious movement, his son wanted to join him, but Buddha's father was heartbroken due to his grandson leaving him. So Buddha promised to make a rule for children joining his monasticism, parents have to give consent, and if parents refused they'd have to wait until they reach adulthood. This is to prevent break up of families.
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
Buddha was wise and selfless like this
@brickjones3831
@brickjones3831 2 года назад
@@MayeMuses are you a Buddhist I thought I saw you at a Memorial Service Thursday in Harlem
@meb777
@meb777 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing
@terryseldon7446
@terryseldon7446 2 года назад
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD same way... if 16 and under must have oarrnts consent to join
@zyzzyz7035
@zyzzyz7035 2 года назад
So they were nice antichrists.
@ocdivine
@ocdivine 2 года назад
This is my 1st time discovering you and I must say I’m intrigued! Absolutely love this peace and your articulation! You are #awesome with that being said I’m subscribing and will share your platform with others. I look forward to discovering and viewing more of your material! Godspeed
@Dancingontgesun1942
@Dancingontgesun1942 2 года назад
Thank you for posting this. I remember seeing a promo for an documentary on this cult 2 or 3 times but I was never able to find a copy of it ANYWHERE.
@skribe2
@skribe2 2 года назад
Thanks for the information. You spoke so passionately of Father Divine. I earned my Ph.D. in Religion at Temple University in 2003. While there, I learned that Father Divine funded a scholarship there for poor students. I started going to his building off Broad and Giraud. It was a wonderful experience. His building is now an apartment condo complex. Great research Douglas E. Thomas, PhD
@ChocolateAristocrat
@ChocolateAristocrat 2 года назад
I am happy to read your comment. When I moved to Huntington Valley I met Mother Divine and my family and I spent Fourth of July with the “family”. So much history of the Divine Lorraine, Langston Hughes, $1.50 lunches etc... Mr. Baker walked without fear out of the south and into “his calling”
@honeybfly1980
@honeybfly1980 2 года назад
Cool! I didnt know that. I graduated from Temple in 2005
@skribe2
@skribe2 2 года назад
@@honeybfly1980 what department
@georgebrown2175
@georgebrown2175 2 года назад
Does the building have his commemoration?
@ricolaw1033
@ricolaw1033 2 года назад
Father Divine had a big presence in Philly. Restaurants and hotels. there was a hotel and restaurant on the Penn campus and a church on my grandparents block on 41st & Westminster that was open into the early 80s. FYI all religions are ideology and cults. Remember the Romans called Christianity the Christian Cult?
@palmares77
@palmares77 2 года назад
My grandmother is from Harlem, and says he was larger than life........Major figure in the black NYC community.
@toofine6
@toofine6 2 года назад
I'm in my mid'50s, NYC Lady, and recall Father Divine banter. I read about Father Divine in my history book as well. He was known.
@ChentheInfj
@ChentheInfj 2 года назад
I just want to say I'm glad I found your channel. You have completely motivated me. Thank You!
@createadramaticlife
@createadramaticlife 2 года назад
I am so happy that you mentioned Father Divine. I went to college on Philadelphia in the late 80’s and was immediately introduced to him. His buildings were all over the Delaware Valley. As a matter of fact, when I got married we bought a historic home on the same block as his convent.
@punarvasudosha
@punarvasudosha 2 года назад
There was Daddy Grace ( Graciella) and Father Divine at the same period. Rastafarian movement was started about the same time by a man named (Howell) an associate of Garvy. There are still followers to this day of most of these moments.
@doctorreed8077
@doctorreed8077 2 года назад
King c a c i jah
@tericitaheard5257
@tericitaheard5257 2 года назад
I remember Daddy Grace. My mother had a friend that was a member of that cult.
@jasminetheconqueror5136
@jasminetheconqueror5136 2 года назад
Thank you for explaining the difference because I thought she was referring to Daddy Grace at first.
@teetalksthereal
@teetalksthereal 2 года назад
Lmao okay thank you for clearing that up I thought they were the same person Daddy Grace still has a church where I live.
@Co33coco
@Co33coco 2 года назад
Most churches are "Cults"...so what's your point
@keithshowell6688
@keithshowell6688 2 года назад
Thank you Maye for bringing this part of black church history. I heard about Father Divine and Daddy Grace and even Reverend Ike as a kid but did not know the much about his place in civil rights and his own version of "God". I am proud to subscribe to your muses, VERY well done!!!
@charray6867
@charray6867 2 года назад
Thanks for your channel and your bringing forth facts on a cult leader. I'd heard about Father Divine being a man whom was supposed to be religious but had gotten people to give him lots of money. I appreciate hearing & watching someone who does their research to prove what they speak on
@ChaceWayne
@ChaceWayne 2 года назад
I am writing about him, in a book, he was indeed an inspiration for King, Daddy Grace, Malcolm X, and was indeed the most important pastor in America, between Garvey and King. Garveyites, in Harlem and Oakland, CA., followed Divine after Garvey's arrest and deportation. Father Divine lived next to FDR and owned over200 houses where followers lived on Booker T. Washington philosophy. Only Booker T. Was held higher than Divine, to Divine. Divine held 35 million, during the Great Depression. Jim Jones, a white man, trying to engage in a black cultural form, collapsed under its pressure, trying to lead a black movement, as a white man. Jonestown was the result. Thanks Maye, for bringing Father Divine to peoples' awareness. He still has all his original property in Sayville, LI and Woodmont, in PA. Also, "you have to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative" is based on a Father Divine sermon.
@zxcccccc1
@zxcccccc1 2 года назад
Interesting, do you have a website?
@charray6867
@charray6867 2 года назад
Oh my!
@CammyCat1111
@CammyCat1111 3 года назад
My great grandmother told me that her mother ran off with father divine she left her husband and kids to follow him
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 2 года назад
Jim jones wasnt the 1st?
@djyua9157
@djyua9157 2 года назад
A woman will leave anybody for a great man a cult doesn’t have to be involved
@urbanhabuki8091
@urbanhabuki8091 2 года назад
anybody who "read" know their were many do called "father devines" even long before this particular one got on the scene.
@sherrita80548
@sherrita80548 2 года назад
Did she ever come back?
@georgebrown2175
@georgebrown2175 2 года назад
A relative of mine is supposed to have done the same thing only it was a man.
@kimtolliferreo4717
@kimtolliferreo4717 2 года назад
Thanks Maye! In the late '60s and early '70s My dad used to occasionally take our family to dinner at the Divine Temple on Sundays. It was on broad Street in Philadelphia, although we were not members. It was good food at a reasonable price. 🌞
@OzouneSundalyah
@OzouneSundalyah 2 года назад
Hi Madam Maye. Your presentation was brilliant and quite witty as well as being most informative! Thank you so very much for sharing. There is much to think about. I am reminded about individual purpose and life's purpose... Much kudos to you as You, your Family and Loved Ones remain safe guided protected inspired healthy happy wealthy and blessed perpetually.
@pharaohimhotep6482
@pharaohimhotep6482 2 года назад
I'm from west philly. I lived around the corner from father devine's church, inside of that church, they served breakfast, lunch & dinner. the food was top of the line food, that they never charged a set price. you could give whatever you had. father devine also owned a whole block, where all women lived, on westminister ave. all of the women who lived in those house were all red bones ( very light skinned black women) father devine owned a hotel on broad street in philly, that hotel had 10-5 floors on hotel rooms, father devine had notaries all over philly, & all manner o other businesses Father Devine was that dude.
@okeydokey9693
@okeydokey9693 2 года назад
why did he only let redboned live there
@zadia1445
@zadia1445 2 года назад
@@okeydokey9693 Exactly! Yet "he was that dude"....😏
@avanulaneway8418
@avanulaneway8418 2 года назад
@@okeydokey9693 he was reincarnated as lil wayne
@cheryiad6942
@cheryiad6942 2 года назад
@@okeydokey9693 all black men who want that integration/peace/don't see color mess love yt women. They literally only do it to have access to them
@wordplay6665
@wordplay6665 2 года назад
So he had his women segregated by location based on color
@kimberlywilliams4513
@kimberlywilliams4513 2 года назад
I’m a 62 year old African American woman who grew up in North Philadelphia where Father Divine had a mansion on 16th & Oxford. It’s still there. I loved when my mom took us to the Divine Lorraine Hotel to visit the restaurant downstairs on the intersections of Ridge Ave, Fairmont Av and North Broad Street!
@prettyandchic
@prettyandchic 2 года назад
OMG!!! I only ever saw you on some spelling podcast that my husband watches. I was surprised to find you here educating us on the cult life. I love it❤️! Subscribed and binging ASAP! 🙌
@masterprophet8378
@masterprophet8378 2 года назад
You're doing an awesome work, Maye! Thanks for all you do. Respect!
@kofoblue3172
@kofoblue3172 2 года назад
He was before my time but when I was growing up, I remember the elders talking about him. His influence still exists today but we just don't know it's from him.
@27TaLisa
@27TaLisa 2 года назад
That's scary
@PlanetApathy
@PlanetApathy 2 года назад
@@27TaLisa not as scary as the prevalent influences of our time I assure you.
@bihmthethird
@bihmthethird 2 года назад
If there wasn't a Father Divine, there would be no Reverend Ike.
@Beautifulglenda
@Beautifulglenda 2 года назад
Wait... Rev Ike was a cult leader?
@1love847
@1love847 2 года назад
Who's Reverand Ike?
@anubey8710
@anubey8710 2 года назад
He was also with the Moorish temple with Timothy drew as well. The common denominator was that they all came through Masonry and the Moorish temple because Elijah Poole Bey/Muhammad was also with the Moorish Temple and a Mason.
@queenofbuttercream
@queenofbuttercream 2 года назад
@@1love847 Reverend Ike was a big pastor, now he has a history that is known amongst black people. I'm 40 and I remember seeing him on TV and heading him on the radio.
@123kpatrick
@123kpatrick 2 года назад
Don't forget about Daddy Grace....
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 2 года назад
You were on my recommended list and I'm NOT disappointed
@1eradney
@1eradney 2 года назад
You are a strong scholar and historian on all of your connected parts. Love this quality and loving your work!!!
@KanoniaMakesMusic
@KanoniaMakesMusic 2 года назад
I really loved this video!!! I learnt so much, especially since I’ve never heard of father divine in my life (which is surprising because I relish learning about historical figures)- I am so happy I found you 🤗
@1jonbarnes1
@1jonbarnes1 2 года назад
If he wasn't the first mega church, he had the first mega church, that didn't collect funds from his followers. That in itself is a miracle. (to my knowledge)
@---456
@---456 2 года назад
I'm not sure what he did when he was alive but I remember my family giving money every time they visited. I can't recall them asking for it but then again I was a child in my own world more consumed with the beautiful land and good food lol.
@lavellebrooks2706
@lavellebrooks2706 2 года назад
Yes he did they said.. and he received all the funds they had... And some wanted their money back and even took him to court and he fleed New York to avoid it
@lisaruzicka8345
@lisaruzicka8345 2 года назад
Just found your channel. I love your content, and even more your delivery. Your humor is awesome. The relationship between Father Divine and Jim Jones is fascinating. They both demonstrate the concept that power corrupts.
@charray6867
@charray6867 2 года назад
I agree
@TonyAurum
@TonyAurum 2 года назад
Why am I just finding this channel now? I love topics like this and you tackle it really well! Definitely subscribing
@rightweaponry908
@rightweaponry908 2 года назад
My Dad grew up in Harlem in 40's and he loved Father Divine, he spoke about him all the time.
@Aaron-sg8br
@Aaron-sg8br 3 года назад
I remember reading about Father Divine myself. I honestly forgot about him until I seen this title. Great job with the video and research!!
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
Thank you!
@habibi9318
@habibi9318 2 года назад
Father Divine was like Jim Jones he became rich from the people he thought he was God
@marcusmccray8676
@marcusmccray8676 2 года назад
This kind of content is wonderful!!!! So glad I found your channel. Keep up the great work!!!!
@AmericanShia786
@AmericanShia786 2 года назад
Excellent presentation. I knew of Father Divine, but only the negatives. I didn't know Father Divine was influenced by New Thought. There were many good things in his cult. I subscribed to you channel because the video was so well researched.
@colieaziza9371
@colieaziza9371 2 года назад
I grew up with Father Divine's followers. My grandmother and my aunt lived in one of his hotels. My grandmother became friends with him and his followers. I spent a lot of time at his hotel in Newark, N. J. It was a very interesting experience and helped shape who I am today.
@alireid5874
@alireid5874 2 года назад
In a good or bad way?
@bilderberg_news2644
@bilderberg_news2644 2 года назад
So you spent time at the Hotel Riviera.
@colieaziza9371
@colieaziza9371 2 года назад
@@bilderberg_news2644 Yes. A lot of time. My grandmother lived there for a short time and my aunt lived there for years. I ate at the banquets and in the diner. I spent a lot of time in the dressmaking shop as those ladies were my grandmother's friends. She helped them with work that they had to complete.
@keithjohnson4464
@keithjohnson4464 2 года назад
That hotel is still standing in Newark New Jersey
@immaculatebloodline8082
@immaculatebloodline8082 2 года назад
Link up . Puppies for sale
@violinfire24
@violinfire24 Год назад
This was expertly explained. I was born in the late 90's, so this was utterly unknown to me. What a fascinating collections of teachings! I can hardly imagine what people's first impression of him was- especially at that time!
@karakerley4230
@karakerley4230 2 года назад
I'm glad the algorithm shook your channel out! Looking forward to checking out your other content.
@troyguzman4613
@troyguzman4613 2 года назад
My grandmother was actually a devout follower of this man. My mother and her brothers suffered at her hands under his teaching.
@davidjohnson36st
@davidjohnson36st 2 года назад
False prophets will have people doing the dumbest shit ain't nothing holy bout that shit at all no one should be worshipped like that let alone a mortal man
@GeoffreyB203
@GeoffreyB203 2 года назад
Can you explain?
@lizc.4181
@lizc.4181 2 года назад
@Troy Guzman I would like to know how? Please explain...
@lorenzobaines6222
@lorenzobaines6222 2 года назад
What happened?
@Loud2013
@Loud2013 2 года назад
Please say more!!
@beautifulinsanityxxx
@beautifulinsanityxxx 2 года назад
you're very articulate & beautiful. your vibe is magnetic. new subscriber 💜
@bethgreene3903
@bethgreene3903 2 года назад
I love the levity you bring to your video- thank you
@bodiesbymack8496
@bodiesbymack8496 2 года назад
This was amazing, I was familiar with Garvey, but this completely new to me. Thank u
@goldenbrowngod
@goldenbrowngod 2 года назад
I remember learning a little bit about Father Divine in a religion class I took in college. I remember my professor saying he had a big impact at the time but I didn't realize it was as big as it was. Also I didn't know there was video of him. That was interesting to see.
@CertainExposures
@CertainExposures 3 года назад
Back with cult content and I’m here for it.
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 2 года назад
1:08 The church should never have been segregated in the 1st place Yet jews and Greeks had a hard time in the bible..even IF LUKE was greek and Timothy, half greek
@malikmatthews6252
@malikmatthews6252 2 года назад
Much respect good research Young lady can't wait to see what you will do next father Divine feed his people and his hotel Loraine grace Divine still stands today and he always had the cleanest white dinner table that could give Ruth Chris a run for their money even today immaculate dinner arrangements without question
@hoponpop3330
@hoponpop3330 2 года назад
I remember him , I lived in Ct , and it was news when he visited his Churches in New Haven and Bridgeport , he was on the news . My older brother explained him as a religious leader. Who was financially motivated looking back he pretty much exploited Poor black people.
@TimeisUp22
@TimeisUp22 2 года назад
I live in bridgeport. Its crazy how i caught this comment. I guess im too young, because i never heard of him, what was the name of his churches? Which streets was it on?
@kaydenpat
@kaydenpat 2 года назад
I had to chuckle when you said that Father Divine preached celibacy and then the husbands of his women followers had him arrested for lunacy. Heh.
@nate4nate5
@nate4nate5 2 года назад
Mind Blowing!! I have NEVER heard of this man, this is proof that they only teach and show you what they want you to absorb, bless you Maye for dropping this jewel, I'm subscribing RIGHT NOW.
@maryanglin537
@maryanglin537 2 года назад
Wow, i just came across this page, and at 72 yso i recall my great aunt talking about Father Divine. Regardless of anyone's personal opinion Im impressed with this young lady expanding her black history. Im subscribing to her channel for other discussions. Most of these Channels are boring and irrelevant. Proud of you young lady ☺
@jupiterskiss3473
@jupiterskiss3473 2 года назад
You're free to educate yourself
@simantalirainbattise8578
@simantalirainbattise8578 2 года назад
I’m so glad you’re talking about all this history!!
@taneishahn4020
@taneishahn4020 Год назад
I can’t believe I watched/listened to this entire video. It was interesting. You got me when you said you are a U.S history movement. I love history especially U.S.
@eleanorturner4651
@eleanorturner4651 2 года назад
When I was young in the sixties I heard my parents talk of this father Divine and of the Sunday meals he was served after service at his church somewhere down my forty-third street round Wyalusing or somewhere down in Philadelphia but that's all I ever heard about it thank you for being so informative on this subject of Father Divine as I never knew he was into the Civil Rights Movement there was nothing ever written about him that I've enabled spine until your podcast so thank you very much
@302Notary-fingerprintboss
@302Notary-fingerprintboss 2 года назад
@ Eleanor Turner, Yasssss Queen! My family ate there many Sundays after church. Great affordable food. I believe it was by donation. Families ate and paid what they they could afford. Eventually that changed because people would eat and pay $1/$2 dollars I wish they were still there. Many need those meals. Philadelphia has a terrible homeless population nowadays.
@firstladyntrng1170
@firstladyntrng1170 2 года назад
I grew up in Philly and remember as a very young child walking with my grandmother there. They had THEE BEST food !! I can still remember how clean and beautiful it was…white table cloths and silverware..and the most lovely smell of yeast rolls and just delicious food😋..All the “Ladies” wore long flowey white dresses…I said to my grandmother “Is this heaven, are they angels” 😭😭of course as a child I wouldn’t have known about his civil rights work so this was enlightening.
@ruthdixon3699
@ruthdixon3699 2 года назад
You're talking about my old neighborhood, I remember the place!
@ricolaw1033
@ricolaw1033 2 года назад
It's at 41st & Westminster. My grandparents block and where I grew up and lived later as an adult after moving back from Jersey and DC. I wasn't born until 1971 and it was open until the early 80's. My older family members have more vivid memories than me. the building was actually a terminal for the Pennsylvania Railroad before 30th Street station was built. Now it's a preschool and kindergarten for Belmont Charter. My youngest daughter attended preschool and kindergarten there.
@ricolaw1033
@ricolaw1033 2 года назад
@@ruthdixon3699 41st & Westminster. my block is 41st Street between Ogden and Westminster.
@enlightened1005
@enlightened1005 2 года назад
First time I heard of Father Divine was in the mid 1990 I was a p public Health Nurse and had to visit one of his followers in a building he had on Central Av. Newark NJ. At first I though it was an apartment building but when the old Male answered the door. I asked to see Me. Love and he answered in a strange voice. Which Love ? We have Peaceful Love , Wonderful Love etc. As soon I gained entry in was shown pictures of Mother and Father which was every where and in every bedroom. There was a large dining area with a place setting for "Father and Mother " who was already dead years ago. A very strange place.
@shannongullett9018
@shannongullett9018 2 года назад
This video is everything! I'm so glad I found your page!
@divaonedivine
@divaonedivine 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing this, I would have never known! Nice addition to black history
@tonyjones1560
@tonyjones1560 2 года назад
My grandfather used to talk at length about Father Divine and said mostly good thing about him. Thanks for this video, I hope he’s not lost to history.
@jonathanking7430
@jonathanking7430 2 года назад
Dr. Maye, you are a brilliant teacher. You make history come alive. I had read a little about Fr. Divine but you brought his Past life out of obscurity. Thanks for sharing!
@fr1daynights136
@fr1daynights136 2 года назад
Dawg how have I not found this channel sooner this content is elite
@Jadetalk437
@Jadetalk437 2 года назад
Thank you for relating this part of history. It is greatly appreciated.
@shostoppah111
@shostoppah111 2 года назад
I was just researching this man’s buildings that have been remodeled and resold over the years in Philadelphia. His full self given name was Father Major Jealous Devine. Just the name is a red flag.
@nlocnil3602
@nlocnil3602 2 года назад
Jealous??? 🤣🤣🤣 red flag indeed
@zaejohnson3414
@zaejohnson3414 2 года назад
@@nlocnil3602 😂😂
@zaejohnson3414
@zaejohnson3414 2 года назад
@Lavender Eyes Tarot LLC lolll girl he say they “major jealous” of him 😂 he really did know what he was doing lol. I don’t think he was celibate honestly.
@charray6867
@charray6867 2 года назад
Big-time red flag
@cstyles744
@cstyles744 2 года назад
I remember when I was a little girl growing up and in Philadelphia my dad used to take us every Sunday to father Devine to eat and even back then the food was so good and you just gave a donation. Best homemade yeast rolls. I Remember all the older women wearing all white as they served us
@mileshall5795
@mileshall5795 2 года назад
This is my first viewing of one of your videos. You are analytical, immensely intelligent, beautiful woman. (What are you doing on RU-vid??!?) That was very well presented & I LOVE content with facts that I haven't heard before. That is rare, but you pulled it off. Much respect😁
@koolLivesInside
@koolLivesInside 2 года назад
I only clicked on this video cuz of your diviness! I learned a lot I never knew. I've come to realize there is a lot of the past our parents never speak about
@mstaramae_irl
@mstaramae_irl 3 года назад
Loving this series! I'm learning so much that I literally would have never even thought to research.
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
Thank you! I have more coming shortly
@immaculatebloodline8082
@immaculatebloodline8082 2 года назад
Nice
@saundrag8849
@saundrag8849 2 года назад
I knew of him as a child, my parents and relatives always talked about him. My mom is 102.
@lavellebrooks2706
@lavellebrooks2706 2 года назад
Wow God bless your mom and may she see more good days
@GeminiPearls2211_OG
@GeminiPearls2211_OG 2 года назад
Blessings
@user-pb6xo2fl5y
@user-pb6xo2fl5y Год назад
Great video. Thanks you! I enjoyed the info,. You are a natural RU-vidr and a pleasure to watch. Cheers.
@TyHybrid
@TyHybrid 2 года назад
God dwells in us doesn't mean we are God it just means he dwells in us. We have his anointing on us.
@silvernblack21
@silvernblack21 2 года назад
And that's only for those who actually have faith, most don't.
@darnellclark
@darnellclark 3 года назад
Once again you teach me something new Maye, Father Divine sounded like Creflo with the suits and the plane lol let me stop before someone gets offended but let me look up Nevel
@MayeMuses
@MayeMuses 3 года назад
History repeats
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