The Most Pathetic Ways Twitter Users Defend Movies 

literally no purpose

@@TheMathtag I really don't understand them. Why do they have to pretend every single time that what they like can never be bad like demented fanatics. Soda is not good for people but people like it. Tobacco is also not good but people still smoke it.

Admitting u like a shitty movie isn't a crime.

@@waseem__600 Exactly. Everyone likes something that sucks. What's the big deal.

@@mksmike Yeah what's the problem in liking something that is bad. Why do u need to defend bad things to hell

The "To criticise a bad film, book, TV show, game or so on you have to make your own or a better one" excuse is stupid because you don't.

It’s even better when the person receiving this “argument” proceeds to actually make a better story with less effort and budget.

I think they should try to make their own movie

My response is always “great idea! Let me just get my millions of dollars, professional actors and writers, years of experience and another 30 million for advertising and merchandise!”

"The internet has brought about the era of the eternality of information, now better than ever we can look back to build a better future" Twitter user:"Nah forget it"

those don't sound like defenses

@@isamekailmahmud9302 yeh they are technically fallacies or deflections, but they employed as defenses. Being a defense is more of a use case than a characteristic of an argument

This is what I mostly hear when ppl defend bad written mystery visual novels. "You just dont understand it."

My hero Academia

@@christopherchilaka6009 lmfao.

I hate when characters do nothing the whole series but have power to do so, they don't prep for the final boss but win anyway, their personal problems are solved without their effort. Ugh

MCU Stans on Twitter

Me for MCU till phase 3...

Based

Twitter is only good at hentai and porn, nothing more, nothing less.

You're missing out

@@alan62036 and there's nothing wrong with that. I've learned to beat the shit out of FOMO, I would rather miss out than spend my brain being fucked by minidoses of dopamine every fucking microsecond by mindlessly scrolling through crappy tweets.

Same here

I think people confuse critism with unnecessary hate. Just because I can point out that there are problems with a show or movie doesn't mean I don't like it and doesn't necessarily make it bad. I can enjoy things and still admit there's problems with it

It's because people think nowadays anything that's criticism towards a movie/show they like = hating on the movie/show for no reason but just to hate it and be a dick. When there is a statement that has been said millions of times but people seem to keep forgetting "You can like something but criticize its flaws" for example I love the MCU a lot but ik there is a lot of shit that people can criticize about it. But that doesn't give me the right to pretend like the MCU is a flawless piece of cinema that doesn't have any plot holes, bad/boring movies, bad changes from the comics, etc.

what do you mean by "ignore how bad the product is" ? like idc how bad the product I like is. i can acknowledge it sure. but I'm not gonna be talking about how bad it is everytime I talk about it.

@@weirdo3116 They mean how people like shows/movies that are very hated or bad like the CW Flash or MOS - Shazam! for the DCEU for example. You can like them of course its not illegal to do so, BUT denying any flaws or bad things in it that people criticize or make fun of just because you like it is super ignorant. There is nothing wrong with enjoying something like a movie/show but also pointing out the flaws it has.

​@@weirdo3116 I agree 100%. You don't need to go out of your way to point outs its flaws in every conversation. that would get very annoying very quickly.

Oh yeah same here dude I'd love more content like this

Not sure if you know already, but this guy has been on a podcast called EFAP with people who are also very good at this type of content. All the EFAP episodes and the individuals related to it are good to check out

Imagine finding out your dads heart surgery was botched and they put his heart where his stomach should be. And when you get mad one of the nurses says you can't say shit because you don't have a medical degree. It's funny how we can criticize food from chefs even if we aren't chefs, but can't do it for films

Same thing for going to a restaurant and eating something that tastes like shit.

YOU DON'T LIKE IT?!?!!?? THEN YOU MUST BE ABLE TO DO IT BETTER YOURSELFFF1!!!!

If I and the rest of the consumer base of a product don’t like the product, _our opinion should matter most._ If you’re not making money, you should be going out of business, so make the people giving you money happy gosh darn it!

I have been told that many times actually Some people just don’t think

Batman long halloween was really good

I like the movies but they're shit

@@robin2117I recommend the animated ones there are a couple of new ones

@@trla6505 ik they're really good but the live actions not so much

Well. It makes sense If you believe people equally good at judging something, then the most popular thing is good. If people are not equally good and some are better then others, there is a need to justify why some judgement is better then other. Why is some criticism more valid then that of the masses, and what decides that.

@@Psy_Ro >masses Historically, that's probably one of the *worst* parties to bandwagon on lmao.

@@JG_Wentworth while that is indeed true, equally great atrocities were done by those who thought themselves above the masses.

@@Psy_Ro I'm just saying, a mob can get a *lot* done. A mob also can't be reasoned with to any capacity, you can *try* to stop one person with words but good luck stopping a hundred, a thousand that way.

@@JG_Wentworth and I get it and you are right in a way It is also why it is strange that this point is being delievered when the thing discussed was taste in media. But even if we extrapolate to every aspect of life, ignoring public opinion can indeed be unwise

That sounds fun as hell XD

I dunno, I'd disagree with that. I'm a fan of TLJ, and overwhelmingly all I see when people talk about liking the movie is randoms coming to attack them. Like there are entire massive sections of the internet who dedicate themselves to hating the Last Jedi and the sequels in general, but the reverse doesn't exist. I don't think there is a single video that talks positively about TLJ that isn't swamped with people ruthlessly mocking people for liking it. On the other hand, videos that call it terrible usually only have a few people defending the movie who are buried in comments calling them stupid. The DCEU has a rabid base of people who defend the movies, TLJ seems to have a rabid base of people who attack the movie.

@@enotsnavdier6867 thats sorta a sign that the movie is shit

@@enotsnavdier6867 i didnt waste the time watching the movie but if its directed by the same dumbass who made force awakens about a trooper who watched his friend get shot in front of him by the "resistance" gay ass name by the way and decides oh boi i cant wait to break one of them out of prison and start killing more of my friends thats enough reason to just boycott starwars as a whole at this point

@@generalshock4359 glad you didn't cause it's fucking awful, the hate is deserved RJ ruined SW which is surprising since he's not a bad director but with SW it felt like he simply hated it

@@generalshock4359 your entire point is ruined because you were homophopic which is sad because I would've agreed with you

And it’s great

And a bit of CinemaSins

@@AlejoConejo-vb8ln a tiny bit

@@lfnreviews Oh yeah ofc. Too much in excess is bad

man shouts at cloud.

I was accused of that by a Zack Snyder fan recently. The fact that Snyder felt like he had to explain his DC films years after they came out shows he didn't do a good job of explaining the plot in the films themselves. But a Snyder fanboy thought me wanting any explanation meant I was somehow an idiot who needed every trivial detail explained to me.

@@Xehanort10 same, and I stop argue with any Snyder fan, not worth it

@@Xehanort10 Snyder cultists always do that with the Martha scene it's ao pathetic

@@pats3212 They go on about how it was intended to be Batman realising Superman was innocent and had a family and that he'd be like his parents killer if he killed him. But it comes off more like he's angry that his mother isn't the only woman in the world called Martha and wants to kill Superman for it. On another video this dumbass said that Christopher Nolan and James Cameron were inspired by Zack Snyder even though they've been in filmmaking before he ever was. Hell when James Cameron started out in 1978 Snyder was only 12. Any film not made by Snyder is somehow ripping him off in his fans minds. They'd probably say the likes of Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, John Carpenter and the like time travelled forward to rip him off or something.

The Martha thing is perfectly reasonable and I truly believe you'd have to be an idiot to not understand it after 5+ years.

I mean idk do you really want all that thick chocolate?

@@alexoxo1 its America, if eating one bite doesnt make me nearly flat line it's not good enough

@@GodOfPizza no no it has to be DEEP FRIED and then covered in chocolate again

@@alexoxo1 true

what this guy is saying is factually wrong. How can you factually prove a movie is bad because it doesn't make sense in the same way you could prove the world is round? Sure you can say one movie makes more sense than the other but there's no evidence to suggest that one person is wrong to say a movie is good even if it doesn't make sense. The whole idea of art being objective is objectively wrong cause it's not based on fact like 1+1=2 or Africa being a continent

@Sebastian Riviere There are standards that you must follow if you want to tell a good story. While there are some vague or grey areas here and there in writing, one can't just deny that there are standards to follow, and those who wish to defend movies must know how to do it.

@@AmitCinematicUniverse i think there are standards one can have for a film and we can even agree to certain standards for the sake of argument. You can't however say that there are a specific set of standards that are FACTUALLY necessary to make a good movie. People have different standards and one person's standards aren't better than another person. I can prove to you with science and data that there are a set of standards you have to follow to build muscle on your frame unlike a movie where you can only give me your opinion as to why your standards are necessary which isn't based on facts. The complete and utter lack of concrete basis is the reason that art is inherently subjective.

@@sebastianriviere7047 Do you want to focus on specific standards from this video? I think it could make this debate easier.

@@AmitCinematicUniverse yes, i agree that these standards make for a good movie but that's only in my opinion. If someone came along and said that they didn't hold movies to this standard, they would be completely valid in doing so and what ever standards they held would be just as valid as mine, however nonsensical they may be. If someone said their version of a good movie had to be funny, exciting and awe inspiring but the plot or characters don't really have to be consistent or make any sense, they wouldn't be wrong for having those standards because that's just their opinion, just as we're not right for having our standards because it's just an opinion. People have different definitions of good when it comes to art and each definition is just as valid as the next.

It's not as much an argument as it is an attempt to turn the discussion in a direction that the fan can better defend the thing, it might as well be taken as admitting defeat: "I can't defend the movie I like from an artistic standpoint, I'll try to defend it from a financial standpoint."

Especially since poor reviews can lead to damaged box office earnings for the future. Example would the new (2021) The Suicide Squad, which is universally considered good but it was a box office failure because of the 2016 film being awful

or "it's a movie about space wizard intended for children" xD

You can have a good movie for kids. I have seen kids movies with better writing than the flash. Which doesnt mean much

That is something I can respect as I tend to turn my brain off when watching any series, anime, or movie

Lol

Especially Eremikas

@@dostoevsky8530 Attack on Titan. It was a masterpiece until the author made the worst ending in history just so he could please his dumb fans (Ending Defenders)

@@deathcart4446 dam I love AOT and I avoided the spoilers, but is it really that bad?

@@thebean6496 Yeah and what made it worse is that after the last chapter, Isayama added more extra pages which completely made the whole sacrifice in the last arc and the series meaningless. What's the point of it? It made me regret reading AoT even more.

It’s also like “Damn Bro, you hit me with the 🤓? Guess my well built argument is destroyed”

Exactly

That arguement makes my blood boil. That just implies that if your audience is younger, you don't have to give shit in the writing department.

@@grayski3324 agreed. That and there have been great content for children as well.

I like this one because it shows that you can enjoy a movie while understanding it is flawed. Which is correct

@@XenteBR yeah like the last Spider-Man movie was absolutely awesome, and yeah his friend learning magic quicker then the sorcerer supreme is utter bullshit, but most of the movie was great though

@@Spiceodog Exactly. People are going to call me a hypocrite, but yeah.

Not really that high of a bar to surpass

Exactly, mate. I get this shit whenever I criticize phase 4, especially Fatws.

@@grayski3324 it’s an easy ad hominem to throw out while not having a valid counter point

@@joro3945 It's sad to see since I love discussing media and finding it's objective quality.

@@grayski3324 same here, it’s just a sign of how people believe there can only stance or another with media it’s not like you can enjoy something but still criticize what it did wrong..

If you dare point out s flaw you must be a DC fanboy!!!

well... yeah, no one has to have the same things they look for in movies as anyone else, esp. given how many kinds there are. i agree that theyres a ton of dumb and contrived bs in Godzilla vs Kong. i also know in my gut that the makers of the movie did not care in the slightest, because the purpose of the movie is very obviously not about delivering a good story - its about two lovable monsters punching each other in the face. now, if you value story in monster movies more than the makers of the movie, thats fine. youre absolutely entitled to that preference, but that doesnt obligate said movie makers to appease your preference in the slightest, not even if many more ppl than just you share it. so when GvK failed to live up to your story expectations, you have every right to not enjoy the movie, and you have every right to say you didnt enjoy it on social media without getting lambasted into oblivion, but you have no right to be mad at the creators for not delivering what you wanted from the film. they mightve just enjoyed making a stupid, inconsistent fight movie more than you wanted to see it. (and yes, im aware that ive provided no evidence that GvK's creators only cared about the fights. in fact, im willing to bet many people that worked on it thought they were writing and scripting out a great film with no flaws. im simply using logic to deduce that a multimillion dollar product, whose base pull is *probably* the fact that two monsters punch each other, was not made with great care taken to ensure its story was consistent. also, as a piece of personal advice, ive learned that laughing at dumb stuff when it happens instead of raging like madvocate likes to (ik a portion of it os just for show) is way healthier. after the last jedi, i instead laughed at dumb stuff in rise of skywalker instead of groaning, and had a blast. it was like a live MST3K showing, highly recommend for general media-consuming use)

this is why i cant support the high rating of demon slayer on MAL as much as others. The one aspect i cherish the most, writing, is mediocre. im hoping for it to improve as more manga chapters are adapted, though.

Problem is... Politics is more about money, power, and pride. So... They'd likely just use the newfound logic to fuck shit up more for more of that.

Some people are really weak and need to hear their opinion echoed back to feel confident in what they're consuming. When they flip their shit so much at criticism, I wonder if they even really ACTUALLY LIKE the thing they're shrilling for, that maybe deep down they DO feel disappointed but for some reason they're in denial and prefer making asses of themselves to not admit it. Almost like being in a toxic relationship with bad media. lol Just stop defending it if you know it sucks and doesn't even entertain you that much. I like watching Flubber, The Swan Princess, Space Truckers, Batman & Robin and a few others regardless of their poor writing or how they got critically received.

not just choking

You mean this reality? The one we're in right now? I don't know man, I haven't ever tried to butter my toast and found that the knife disappeared out of my hand all of a sudden.

You are gay and also black.

@@natedigger5678 that's pretty neat. I never realized.