I don't really think it's that controversial in 2023 to say that getting involved militarily was a mistake based off of a very misinformed read of the situation. The Vietnamese have hated the Chinese for literal millennia, Southern Vietnam falling to the communist north wouldn't (and didn't) help the PRC establish hegemony in SE Asia. A lot of good people died for a war that was largely pointless in the end.
@@MidwestMountainMan Why do you say pointless? US learned to involved more proxy and allied armies in their invasions and also learned to only allow press pre-approved by military officials in zones of operations. It did marvels for public perceptions of future US aggressions.
Statler and Waldorf screwing over Fozzie again while *also* messing with Kermit by pretending they had nothing to say about Fozzie's new rountine is so in character for them.
@@TheKorenji"The internet is a COMPLETELY different culture!" "You said it! Everything here is immediately followed by sarcastic remarks and nasty responses." "Looks like we're right where we belong!"
I love how Kermit is always trying to preserve the sanctity of comedy as an art form by reminding Fozzie of the ground rules of what makes a joke a joke.
@@warlordofbritannia Neither ever recognized Taiwan as a sovereign nation, instead they simply acknowledged the Republic of China (which at the time and still to this day is still only in Taiwan) was the one and only China. Then they simply switched the recognition to the PRC (including their sovereignty over RoC controlled land) and kicked the RoC out of the UN. The difference is important because even to this day it is still the Republic of China and inside the island there are people who still support their claims as the legitimate Chinese Republic and those who seek complete independence with the Chinese identity.
@@akimgranada7239 So, in other words, they used to recognize the government based in Taiwan as a sovereign nation, until they swapped to the PRC…and that’s different from what I said because…?
I like how Kermit has his own opinions on these issues himself. It kinda makes him feel like his own functioning adult who just happens to be good with kids.
@@john2g1Yeah they’ve started feeling the need to address more and more complex social issues on the show that, the longer it goes on, the less likely the kids are to understand what they’re even talking about.
That’s always been Kermit’s deal. He’s an educator and an entertainer, but he’s also the reason the muppet show is running, in and out of universe. He’s the one that assembles the acts, keeps Piggy in check, and its because of him that the muppets were united in the first place.
*Fozzie:* Wow. I...I didn't think I would go for the heavy hitters. *Waldorf:* Don't worry. Hiroshima can't possibly get hit any harder. *Waldorf/Statler:* OHHOHAHA!
Sad/funny fact: Actually the bomb dropped on Hiroshima went through a faulty reaction and only 1/10 of the uranium reacted the way it was designed to. It quite literally was *supposed* to be hit harder
The only surprise for me is that it took people _this long_ to brutally kick the ever-living crap out of that gratingly, infuriatingly unamusing bear. I mean, I suppose they could have just fired him from the show (Kermit runs the theatre, after all), but either way is fine.
Wocka Wocka was a disgraceful policy in the Congo in the 1960s by the ruling elites to engage in genocide against disenfranchised tribes and steal their land. 😢 The fact that you or Fozzie continue to show your support for these war crimes by continually shouting the slaughter phrase is simply obscene 😏
One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone will tell a bad joke and then exaggerate the awkward response as the punchline. "THAT JOKE SURE SUCKED HWOAAAAAAAH" as their spinning bowtie goes crazy. Just write an actually clever or funny joke, the effort is worth it!!!
I thought the punchline was going to be him saying that all of what he said WAS a joke, but then we got an actual punchline. Or rather, a line of people doing the punching!
@@binkyboy448Every entertainer has "virtue signaled" except nowadays its less accepted because its not seen as brave or new. People are cynical. Back in the day people were sharply split by virtue signalling like Star Trek's interracial kiss. Now people just whine because its all old news and seems overplayed.
@@PhoenixFiresIt’s not virtue signalling if it’s controversial. At that point you’re making a point about an injustice, rather than just saying stuff so you look good.
That night Kermit stood on stage watching as the crowd put Fozzie in the hospital. He looked him in the eye and said nothing. It was the best show he had seen in years.
Fozzie: I'm gonna say statements that are not controversial. Stattler and Waldorf: Why don't we ask him a question where the answer is controversial no matter what? Fozzie:...........Oh, crap!
Fozzie was doing that old school style of comedy. The 2 pies in the face, and one in field in Pennsylvania kind. Sometimes it lands, and sometimes it doesn't take off.
@@hugoumero9723 Speaking of him apparently Oliver Stone tried for awhile to do a film about him in the vein of his biopic about JFK but it never got off the ground. When he saw Nolan's film he was impressed with it and was surprised a film like it could get made in this day and age.
Criticizing the iraq war isn't really controversial since there is a lot to criticize. The thing that's controversial is whether the war was right or not. They had a criminal dictator in power and the CIA had evidence that the removal of chemical weapons from desert storm wasn't complete and that iraq was assisting terrorist organizations. Leading to the general fear that iraq was giving WMDs to terrorists. However, the CIA's intelligence would later prove to not really be credible. Especially with their intel on the russia/ukraine situation and also the effectiveness of the afghan national army post US's withdrawal from afghanistan. Plus there's also how coalition forces conducted the war. This leads to a general belief that the war wasn't really good in hindsight but as Fozzie said in the video, "hindsight is 20/20"
@@dickkickem4238 You forgot about Saddam refusing to let UN nuclear inspectors into the country, and when he did there'd be satellite footage of trucks moving things away before inspectors could get there. It created the appearance that they were developing nuclear weapons. Saddam wanted to look powerful so he could bully other nations. Somehow he forgot that he only rose to power because the previous bully got killed. Overall going to Iraq was right. Doing it without a long term plan to implement a new government or an exit strategy was bafflingly stupid.
Fozzie: “slavery… was bad!” Audience applauds Fozzie: “in fact, it was so bad, I wish it had never happened! I wish all the slaves had never been brought here!”
You see the Iraq War was... Uh... It's a lot like a box of chocolates...it... Uh.... When you apply heat, it becomes big brown mess with lots of different flavors... ...... *Ugh, shit*
Tbh if a comedian got up on stage and said: "slavery..." and paused for just a couple seconds to let everyone's minds go wild before adding "was wrong!" would be hilarious irl. That subversion of expectations would actually make for a funny joke. Though you couldn't do that format repeatedly to one crowd as that bait and switch only works once.
Serious comedy = affirming what the audience thinks is popular to acknowledge believing. Isn't that kind of the EXACT OPPOSITE of what comedy is? "But flippancy is the best of all. In the first place it is very economical. Only a clever human can make a real Joke about virtue, or indeed about anything else; any of them can be trained to talk as if virtue were funny. Among flippant people the joke is always assumed to have been made. No one actually makes it; but every serious subject is discussed in a manner which implies that they have already found a ridiculous side to it." - Screwtape
This is just how George Carlin used to perform comedy, he would go on stage and just have an angry rant, not make a single joke. He seemed to find a large audience of angry people who agreed with him and probably never had the balls to stand up for themselves.
The only thing Lincoln was into was keeping a united country. He cared not for slaves. I The South was willing to end slavery to achieve international recognition.
Short answer to both questions: The necessity of bombing Japan in recent years has become somewhat debatable though while the civilians didn't deserve it the government of Imperial Japan had it fucking coming. The Iraq War was a dumb fucking impulsive knee jerk daddy issues induced decision by one of the most incompetent leaders in history, and while Saddam had it fucking coming in the long run it did NOT work out. There, helped you out Fozzie.
The Atomic Bombs didn’t even hit the government of Japan, not to mention that the U.S. still allowed those fascists in power afterwards, how about you do actual research like Shaun’s video on the bombings instead of the fake history that the U.S. books try to sell you.
Having Kermit say “Women shouldn’t vote” is certainly creative. You clearly have a knack for wild and whacky ideas for your videos. I certainly commend your creativity and imagination!
"Your thoughts on the Confederacy?" "Not good." People who think they're bad applaud, people who think they're great also applaud. Hmm, I see you Fozzie, I see you.
There are people that get an ego boost out of thinking they're unique and special for thinking that mass murder is bad and that that makes them a good person.
Tbh Kermit is kinda right some comedians can be political mouth pieces who just say statements instead of jokes, but the ones who incorporate it into their jokes do it very well
@BreakingBaIIsHe's been ass for the past 6 years or so. Dude just goes up there and talks for 1 hour and the jokes all require you to already be so into him that you laugh at anything lol. George Carlin is the true GOAT example of this.
@BreakingBaIIs I always know when I come back to a reply where someone just pastes a chunk of misinterpreted information that I've caused someone to question their own stance and experience a psychological knee-jerk defencive reaction. I refer of course to the fact that you had to mention yourself, "this includes human rights" because the quote that YOU selected didn't actually say it. And to answer your final question, which should have been all that your comment consisted of, Chapelle made several disparaging remarks about trans people and then tried to pull the, "I have a trans friend" card, which is the EXACT same energy as, "I can't be racist because I have a black friend". It is possible (disgusting, but possible) to have a friend which belongs to a group of people one dislikes, simply because your friend "isn't like the others". Hope this all helps you understand my point further because I shall be disengaging after this; I've said all I need to say. Have a fantastic life.
@@oxymoron02 The entire concept of Human Rights is inherently political seeing as it's something that's decided via the use of legislation drafted by a political body, in this case the UN.
@@roundabout468the " comedy " of george carlin is like fuzzie rutine, make controvesials statements without remate , and insult to conservatives , religious people and religion
I'm paraphrasing a comedian who was asked the same question: "Well, the Iraq invasion happened on the aftermath of 9/11. And we can all agree that 9/11 was bad. Like 7/11 but at least two degrees worse. America was like that large kid whose main attribute was that he was into sports. If you tapped him in the opposite shoulder, he would punch the person next to him. America is like that kid. Not too bright, not too keen on geography either, but boy he could throw a punch."
Standler and Waldorf knew what they were doing….they went along with the bear’s comedy act to get him beaten up. Waldorf: Well of course we did….he can’t reach us
It's always such a treat to get a glimpse into an American's mentality, where Holokaust is a less heavy subject than war in Iraq and 9/11 was the greatest tragedy human history
@@jlev1028 so do statements. Every statement on the internet is someone's opinion mixed with facts, like "slavery is bad" is just an opinion that everyone agrees on And you can kinda see setup and punchline here: "slavery" is a setup, where everyone looks for what you will say with anticipation, and "is bad" is a punchline, where your previous words now make sense in a context It may be a boring statement, because everyone agrees on it, but jokes can also be boring ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
comedy is not just about making the observation. you have to make the observation and either put your own spin on it or point out some sort of hypocrisy, something absurd, create a hypothetical, etc...the observation/statement is just a jumping off point.
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol comedy is about creating something funny, and you're not defining what it is. Instead, you explain how comedy works, but that's not the only way, just a classic one In my opinion, if people laugh because of something, they consider it fun (ofc with some exceptions, like physical stimulus etc.), so for them this is a comedy, even if it was just an observation with no twists or spins
i like how accurate this is because this type of "comedy" fosters an audience who will kill you if you say one thing out of line with whatever npc narrative they've subscribed to
So what you're saying is, you have main character syndrome and believe the opposite of the obvious statements in the video. If thinking things like slavery was bad, or the holocaust was bad, makes people 'NPCs' in your eyes, that says a LOT more about you than those you judge.
