The Mystery of Ura Zelda SOLVED Ft.  

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Question: Who said anything about environments being rendered? From what they were describing, it doesn't sound different from what Out of this World/Another World was doing. If you keep it sidescrolling, then you have more than enough polygons to bluff everything. That early Link model is probably why they gave up on a fully 3d game on SNES.

lets hope nintendo won't remove this video.

Im very hard for games.

Watching before nintendo takes it down!

You mean timestamps.

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Thanks Steve :)

Yeah they really evolved ever since they stopped doing clickbait with the facts everyone knows.

@Dr. Lava's Lost Pokemon You've been a godsend to gaming history. It's weird how apparently you're like the first guy that thought to actually learn Japanese and look into older magazines for this stuff.

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Thanks man, awful kind of you to say :) There's other folks who do this kinda thing too though -- a couple guys who go by the names Shmuplations and Dogasu's Backpack come to mind. There's been lots of folks doing it long before I was. A lot of them aren't on RU-vid though and just post translations on their own one-man websites, some of which are later picked over by RU-vidrs. Lol and actually I can't read Japanese, except some words that are the same as they are in Chinese. I go through a lot of old magazines, books, and websites -- usually in Japanese but sometimes in other non-English languages -- and commission translations. Usually from the same handful of translators I've been working with for the past few years. They're always credited and thanked at the end of every video I write. Also DYKG's founder Shane Gill deserves a lot of credit. He pays me to spend weeks writing each video. Most RU-vidrs and news article writers kinda have to pump stuff out every day or every week. Sometimes several a day. Shane lets me take my time, so I'm very lucky in that regard. To not have to crap out three videos every single week. If I was working for WatchMojo or some channel like that, I'd basically have no choice but to just reword Wikipedia pages and stuff like that. Anyway that was kind of a wall of text. But yeah, thanks LJK :)

Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Toad now all have their own games. The original team is complete.

I mean, Gamefreak is a separate subsidiary than Nintendo proper... it's kinda like the whole Disney versus Pixar thing. Only this time it's the main company running laps around its associate.

@@Wendy_O._Koopa That's completely irrelevant, Nintendo owns a third of Gamefreak and publishes their games, they absolutely could (and should) have delayed it until it was actually ready.

They were NOT worried about looking “weak” or “behind the times”. They were worried about it not selling compared to, effectively, Warhawk which would have been the same thing only running better on ps1. Pokémon doesn’t have that problem.

@@chrys9256 Oh, the absolutely, Nintendo 120% _should_ pull Gamefreak aside and say, "Listen, old chum; you need to start putting more time and effort into your releases. If you need help, we can provide it, but it reflects badly on us a brand when you keep phoning your games in." or something, because it's getting ridiculous.

@@JazGalaxy Have you watched the video? This is the exact wording he used. Since the game was already completed it wasn't an issue of development cost, so if it flopped it would have been a blow to Nintendo's reputation more so than their wallet. As far as Pokemon goes, it's one of the biggest media franchises on the planet with a very passionate fanbase, so yes, people are going to buy it regardless. But once a franchise's reputation is tarnished it becomes much harder to regain people's good will. They might be able to get away with it this time, but for how long?

Or Dinosaur Planet getting scrapped and reworked into a completely different game just because he said the main character looked like Fox McCloud. A move which ultimately led to Rare ditching Nintendo. I do love Miyamoto, and the guy is a legend, but dear god not everything he says has to be taken as law.

This is why mexico is a really poor country.

Tunic rules

I think it would have looked beautiful, but wouldn't have been that interesting to play. Zelda is not a franchise made for puzzle-style platforming, Mario is. I think he had the right idea for saying no. Heck, we still got the "Diorama"-style Zelda game with the remake of Link's Awakening.

Project X was covered in a DYKG video a few months ago, and the video included interviews with two of the developers. It was originally gonna be in this video we're commenting under now, but it got spun off into its own video when the devs got involved. (I'm the guy who wrote these videos btw)

Different things. That was done, from scratch, by the speedrunners themselves.

Like that meme where that guy brings in a couple of pizzas and there's a fire in the apartment?

@@seekertosecretsthat wasnt in mind when i was typing this but yeah its exactly that lmao

like the devil wears prada?

Sounds to me like Miyamoto embarrassed him in front of his coworkers so badly that he became ashamed of ever having pitched it in the first place.

Nah, Miyamoto would make you burn it all yourself while everyone watches in total silence.

Ura Zelda’s content pretty much lies between master quest and majoras mask. We already have what’s there.

​@@founderofthenewworld1838Right, like randomized dungeons and network features.

​@@Nate-ll4do There's no evidence that either of those ever made it to a workable state.

I mean, when you work for a company like Nintendo, you are always under contract to not reveal any of the secrets of the games, no matter what, no matter how long it passes.

He probably signed an NDA so he will never be allowed to talk about it.

Guy: I still wanna live *chuckles* DYKG: Lol what a jokester *red dot moves around in his forehead*

They'd have taken his finger

Honestly this is probably more of a cultural thing. The Japanese tend to take rules and contracts very seriously, so it's more likely out of principle than fear. Then again the Japanese police regularly check up on people, so it could be out of fear. I'm not sure where I'm going with this.

It'd make a great video indeed

It would be interesting how "bad" it is. I mean Nintendo saw their benchmark and canceled it immediately...

I hooe

It was probably just a really bad game, nintendo literaly cancelled inmediately and restarted development with retro studio

We'll probably know every detail about that version before we ever get an update on the actual Prime 4.

Wait what happened?

@@brandinoiii4293miyamoto fucking murdered him

People with money are capable than more than you think.

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I'm actually in agreement. Makes sense master quest part was already done as it was the easiest part and no sense to waste it

I mean it technically still is master quest. It got scaled back in development sure but MQ is still the finished product.

I thought it was the broadcasted snes game lol

Technically it is, as is the name used in Japan for Master Quest. But yes, the original project was even bigger.

The simplest way to put it- Master Quest is all that got finished of a planned expansion before (most of) development team switched to making Majoras Mask.

Zelda 64 is one of my fav alpha too. I really like the looks of that empty, but fully 3D Castle Town, the woods with the Poe and such. Hope one day one fan could recreate that and let's us play XD

Yeah I was never satisfied with the answer that people said that Master Quest was what it became but with this now I feel like I can rest

@@albertwayne2323 The rom that was made early in 2022 or late 2021 was really awesome, to be able to see and look at some of the rooms we have seen for about 25 years was such a mind blowing moment for me. That evening I went to get my roommate to show him, I had left the game running in the room in the Great Deku Tree with the 3 platform/pillars and the Deku Baba, it was incredible to visit it myself!

You should go outside, your parents are disappointed in you.

I expect it was kind of in response. They'd been burned before and didn't want to touch it again... only that happened right as it became viable.

Way more than even what they do now...

You did a great job!

The real OG

Tony from H4G is simply the most relaxed guy you can find on videogame RU-vid. Really love the channel for years now and it's actually nice to see it gained more popularity over the years. Underrated, yes, but in the rise when it comes to new subscribers.

been watching hard4games since like 2011, I'm also stoked to see tony here

@@TeamTeddy666 Been watchin around 2010/2011 too. Back when it was low quality picture and 3 guys hanging out and talking about video games. It was before people made videos for money, so it was some nerds making videos for fun. I think I found the channel cuz they were talking about a URA zelda mod (that ended up getting canceled).

INSANELY underrated; seriously, anyone who is subscribed here is guaranteed to enjoy his channel; uncovering history and preservation are his game

@@TeamTeddy666 I’ve also been watching hard4games since 2011 or 2012 when I was only 11 or 12 years old. I’m glad to see Tony’s channel finally emerge from his preservation work.

I was extremely dissapointed that they switched to the OOT style which is, in my opinion, one of the ugliest games ever made. I HATE that link and half the cast look like monstrous goblins. Even then I remember seen Impa and being like, “what the hell is this?!”

@@JazGalaxy what? The alpha art style is far worse...

Yeah, OoT sure hasn't aged well. At least the 3DS remake still looks good.

@@camthesaxman3387 it may have aged but it's still looks great for an N64 game. Gamers back then used more imagination in how art styles were in regards to graphic limitations, something we now take for granted.

​@@JazGalaxytoo late it's already out along with majoras mask, keep coping.

WHAT! Oh my god that's awful! I hope I can find this treasure reposted again soon.

@@BrennanMorris Nintendo took it down, so don’t count on it

@@solid_justice5855 that makes me so sad

What was the video about?

@@BananaMana69 zelda game by Retro studio

Nintendo had the right to do so. You might not like it, but the video was not out of the grey area were Nintendo could get it down if they wanted.

@@toumabyakuya We really couldn't care less if Nintendo had the right to or not, because it was still extremely unnecessary and pissed us off. Just standard Nintendo hating its fans. We don't have sympathy for that behaviour and CERTAINLY won't defend it.

@@toumabyakuya Many things are "right" to do, but doing them is petty and gainless. Nintendo guarding unfinished games like Area 51 just makes them look like spiteful mafia men.

@@jokx4409 *"because it was still extremely unnecessary and pissed us off."* Man, all you did right now was confirm my believe that you are being fully sentimental and letting your feelings cloud your better judgement. "Unnecesary"? Maybe to you, but Nintendo could have their own reasons (that we neither know nor need to know) for considering keeping that kind of information secret and only available for themselves. *"Just standard Nintendo hating its fans."* I mean, the same could be said about you. Just your standard "fan" hating Nintendo for no good reason. Honestly, this is quite petty out of you.

@@flurpoid *"Nintendo guarding unfinished games like Area 51 just makes them look like spiteful mafia men."* They easily could have their reasosn, reasons that we don't know nor need to, to keep their secrets. It is not up to you (nor up to me) to decide which secrets Nintendo should and should not keep. I mean, I good reason to keep this kind of material secret could be to avoid their rivals from capitalizing from their game not being released and releasing a game that its similar to theirs or a game that has a mechanic similar to one Nintendo ended up scrapping. Another reason could be to surprise their fanbase: Imagine, if you would, that the entire first few months of development of Metroid Dread (Switch) got leaked to the public a year or two prior to the official reveal, do you really think the impact would have been the same one we got without knowing about it?.

Agreed they really know how to piss off fans and preservationist

@@Lownamebrandrooting through someone’s trash and calling it preservation is a solute bullshit. Largely because of just what this video does, which is to try to make more out of what exists than should be made. And moreover, Nintendo is famous for utilizing old ideas in newer projects. So there is nothing to say that this stuff is truly discarded. I’m short, you do NOT have a “right to know” things a provitamin entity doesn’t want you to know. That’s not “preservation”, it’s entitled, invasive, obnoxious, predatory behavior.

@@JazGalaxyOkay Nintenbot

@@JazGalaxy Nintendo aren't going to hire you bro

@@JazGalaxy My god, this has to be the worst youtube comment or reply I've ever read.

Wow. That sucks

Zeth his name was iirc

ZeffN64 didn't kill himself

Nintendo Ninjas at it again

I followed that from the start. He swore that it was gonna be the one zelda project that wouldn't get cancelled, cuz there wasn't many zelda64 mods back then. It ended up getting wayyyy too ambitious and there ended up being drama and it got canceled. If it wouldve been completed it wouldve been ahead of its time and probably the best zelda64 mod of all time. The stuff that was done looked really good, because it was a team of modders instead of a single person

@@user-qv5sm5dw1v that series has existed since 2006.

If you're talking about Mario vs Donkey Kong, that started on the GBA in 2004, then had two decent DS games, then fell into mediocrity on the 3DS and Wii U.

Yeah that’s obvious. Anything else is wishful thinking

They explained it as diorama. Which was Hiratake's original idea(link diorama )Kinda feels like they just took his idea and didn't even give him any credit.

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If they do, we riot. None of the content in any of these videos is copyright infringement, especially since this data has been available for years, and because it's for educational purposes, it falls into fair use. DYKGaming just makes it easy to consume, as it's gathered in one place

They already struck it down once. This must be a re-upload.

They might because of the FX Link 3d model.

@@kaitoudark1 However, most of the data in this video came from the Giga Leak (an unauthorized leak of data from all of their games) so Nintendo would be in their right to take this video down because they didn't give anybody permission to posses this data.

@@o4saken1 Nah, that was a different video.

I for one, absolutely do not blame him in the slightest for having quality control and higher priorities on his mind at all times. Part of being a leader means having to have the guts to make unpopular decisions for the benefit of all, and that's all he's ever done.

@@the-NightStar quality is something yes, i also have very high standards unfortunately, but this seems a lot more like wanting the monopoly of something

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Reminds me how I’m such a big Star Fox fan, and my sister is a big Zelda fan!

Not really hacked into because of code, it's in the game for targeting test

Tetra's Trackers, also known as Navi Trackers, WAS released in Japan as one of the games in Four Sword Adventures (2004). It was not included in other languages' releases. It has nothing to do with Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (2014).

Haha, funny...