Let's take a look at the new Losi Super Lasernut! Will this become the new best budget basher or is it just not strong enough to take on the Traxxas XRT, Arrma Kraton 8s or even the Redcat Machete? Let's find out!
Love large scale, but they did it again, same as last lasernut. Making a larger scale vehicle than the components are built for. Saving six bucks on a motor fan for that enclosed motor is ridiculous. Funny you point out the dogbones. Metal RC managed to shear one at the dogbone pin insert with very light bashing. Might be cheap metal. Always impressed with your teardowns.
They should’ve put THIS drivetrain in the 1/10 scale Lasernut. It’s pretty much a 1/8th scale vehicle anyways, so these internals being from the eight would’ve been perfect. They knew what they were doing😂
The review we’ve all been waiting for 🤘 Picked up the 8 Truggy last week and DAMN this thing is way bigger than the Buggy. Can’t wait to try the Truggy on the track but first impressions are pretty good. The shocks on both versions are really, really smooth for an RTR. Only issue I’ve had is sometimes the servo cuts out on the Truggy, had a butt clenching moment when it almost hit a neighbors car 😂 I am very disappointed at how shallow the wheel hexes are on the Super, that was like the number one complaint on the 10 scale!
I'd say the hexes are normal size for 17 mm. Unless there's something weird going on I don't think there's going to be an actual problem with them. The wheels are pretty big but they're not really any heavier than most other large 1/8 scale 17 mm wheels.
@@DoRCthey don’t look very deep when you flipped the wheel over especially for a 6S car. I want to see at least 3/8 or half inch of hex inside the wheel. The 10 scale would strip hexes constantly if you didn’t torque and loctite them after every run
This is targeted towards a specific group that like this type of “Hybrid” for lack of a better word, and doesnt mind spending 800 bucks….looks cool but as someone said in the comments 1/10 is definitely much more versatile Great vid ! And yes 8s and beefier parts will wake this badboy up…. 800 plus 2-300 bucks in extras….save it and buy an xmaxx or Kr8ton 1/5
For sure though I will say that any modern basher especially one that sells for $800 needs to be able to handle at least modest bashing and so far this one hasn't been able to. I've got a couple fixes and I'm going to try it again in the next video so stay tuned!
@@rrrccc1571 I thought they were a set of common tires from looking a lot alike. This does have a thinner nose piece being the biggest difference I noticed. I do want to see them side by side though.
I made one of these out of the 8th scale buggy chassis and the FTX DB8 body. Runs amazing! Just not as visually impressive because it is smaller but doesn’t break stuff😂
Thanks for showing us the Super Lasernut. It really was nice how well you cover it. Losi really did a great job on the body panels and cage. As for the drive train, it's lacking durability from all the videos I've seen. I do own a couple of 1/10 scale Lasernuts and I really enjoy driving them. So far I haven't bashed either that hard and haven't had any issues so far. They don't seem to jump that well but they sure get over rough terrain like weeds and rocks at a decent speed.
If you haven't had any problem with the 1/10 scale version you probably won't have any problem with this either. As long as it stays on its wheels for the most part it'll probably be fine. Unfortunately if you look at the marketing it isn't marketed as a just flat level ground stay on its wheels kind of vehicle and it's durability does not match what they're showing in the videos as far as I'm concerned
@@DoRC Thanks .... Your the first person who had any words of encouragement. You'll probably laugh but my though is to drive it to scale. If it's 1/10 scale and your doing 40mph then a full size Lasernut if you multiplied by 10 would me 400mph. A 30 foot jump would be 300 ft. If you consider scale. Advertising is always deceptive. They probably used 3 cars to complete the video. who knows ...
Absolutely. There are going to be people that are happy with this car. It's not like it's made out of glass like that I just think that most people who are in the hobby these days that buy something which purports to be a basher will probably end up bashing this thing beyond its limits. You don't sound like you would have that problem. If youre bashing scale you'll probably be fine.
Yeah I think as long as you understand that it's going to have durability limitations it'll probably be pretty fun. I'm not sure though as I broke it like three times in a minute and a half a bashing
I remember that’s exactly what I thought about the first version but I’m not falling for it a second time it was by far the worst RC I’ve ever owned it’s a money pit lemon that is a shelf Queen it continued to break over & over. Mind you I paid over $500 for it. Mark my words you will not be happy with it.
awesome vid. i hate when you lose footage. On the positive note. just means that you get to bash some more. it's the good stuff that is frustrating to lose. lol. Can't wait to see the power house added to the lazynut. Have Fun
Cool tear down. I think your idea of "bashing " in this specific video and your other vids is quite different... I understand there were early failures, but I wanna see Omni Terminator levels of BASHING on this LazerNutjob
They couldn't make the radio box waterproof because Traxxas patented having a radio box with a gasket and then sues anyone who does it. The Arrma Nero was one such example
Although I know the 1/10 scale version has a lot of durability issues, I feel like that truck is more "scale" accurate than the larger 1/8 scale truck.
Looks designed to break parts. Drivetrain too weak and small for platform. That's sad. Nice job on the No Cry screwdriver. Bought one, modded it, and has the perfect light torque touch. Excellent recommendation, excellent mod. Thank you! I didn't know anyone sold a capable $40 driver that also has torque control.
About what I expected coming from Losi. They make amazing scale trucks (Hammer Rey is a great example) but they aren’t big time bashers. I’m sure with some aluminum braces it will do fine with mild jumps and ripping around 👍
Agreed on all points, the scale is incredible and looks great, but they’re intended to be driven like their 1:1 counterparts. There’s a guy on RU-vid (forget his channel name) who runs a lot of their vehicles in a very realistic way, specifically the Hammer Rey, and the realism is very evident, just gotta run it a little easier.
To add to that (hadn’t finished the video yet) the surface he runs on in this video is ideal IMO. Just wavy bumpy sand dunes (relative to the vehicle), it’s perfect for this car.
Yeah that's kind of why I ran it there. I figured this would give it the best chance of surviving and still at least make me feel a little bit like I was bashing. Unfortunately I still had problems. We're going to try to redeem it in the next video though
@@DoRC there was another video of this car a few days back and he also broke a rear dogbone (although yours just popped out). He was also running on gravel so I figured a rock got stuck in the outdrive but seeing two issues now..
Lol. I'm not too worried about the lipos. The motor should always be the limiting factor and it's going to handle just so much. We'll see how it does on 8S though :-)
Sounds like they did the no testing before release like the first lasernut. I had many issues out the box. I think they will slowly update parts as we bash these in the real world. Either way im getting one next yr since the original handled city bashing until I crashed into cement @ 40mph.
@DoRC I'm going small scale for now like the grom line. I'm constantly running out of parks I can safely bash around with larger rigs. I need to move out of this city for many reasons and my hobby is definitely one.
I don't understand why Losi makes fragile drivelines when they have immediate access to their Horizon Hobby partner in Arrma. I had a Tenacity DB Pro and absolutely loved the design, but could not stand that it constant ate differentials and other driveline components. After breaking it almost every outing (not extreme bashing), I gave up and got an Arrma Mojave EXB and I have never broken any of the mechanical components. This Lasernut looks awesome, but I'm done with fragile RCs. Put this body on the Mojave chassis and you have a guaranteed winner.
Not sure. They obviously have access to the stuff as evidenced by the NASCAR Grom but maybe horizon doesn't want there to be too much overlap like that as the brands would become competition for each other which wouldn't be good for horizon
Yeah I'm going to try to land it nicely as I am almost certain this won't handle a bad landing but it'll be interesting to see if it handles a good landing.
Yeah I'm a little worried so far. I've got a couple of fixes I'm going to do and we'll give it another shot in the next video but I'm not super confident about it.
Very interested in seeing you abuse this thing. I really like the look of it but am concerned about the drivetrain. To me a buggy like this but not weighting 30lbs like a DBXL is really interesting.
My Fireteam feels heavier than my Mojave. I've not put them on a scale but I think the Fireteam weight is around 14-15 pounds. It's very similar to the Mojave but with bigger tires and the extra handbrake servo and stuff. The body is quite heavy also.
You're right. The fire team weighs 13.7 lb. I thought the Mojave was heavier for some reason. This is still significantly heavier than either one of them though.
The optional spektrum servos are 1/5 sized. The s905 is 1/6 sized. That servo and the one that comes in the Blackjack 42 are the only servos that fit that mount. That’s a deal breaker for me. S905 is slow and sloppy. Not a fan.
Ah ok. I thought the new ones for the 8S trucks were the same size but I don't have any actual experience with them. That is a bummer. I'm sure someone will come up with and aftermarket option but seems kind of shortsighted
Again with the lazy wire management from Losi. Ever since my Super Baja Rey that I bought brand new the wires for the lights were cut from the poor application of the zip ties
This one's not too bad or they do have some nice cable management on the chassis itself but given that you really do need to take the body off to do any major work to the car I think a single disconnect at the back of the chassis would have been a great addition.
The large plastic ones that you see externally are. They aren't connected to each other side to side. The real sway bars are just standard ones that you would see on most RC cars.
All hex screws under 4mm are crap, and when they strip, which they will, you can`t just use something else. Small scale hex is trash, whereas philips work in all sizes and you can use different size drivers or even a flathead driver. Reviewers going "oh and it has hex now" need to stfu, because when I look at small hex screws, all I see is problems..
I wouldn't say under 4 mm. I have very few problems with anything down to 2 mm. The 1.5 can definitely be problematic though. If you're having problems with smaller screws it's possible your tools are partially to blame. Especially at smaller sizes the accuracy and strength of the bits plays a big role in whether or not a screw will strip out.
i just.... don't get it. fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... like. WHO at Losi is so goddamned stupid? i'm sorry, but there's no other word to describe it. because why otherwise go out of your way to ruin your name... again? just.. too many problems 1) as a shock to no one, undersized drivetrain/chassis. just like with the previous one, which was a 1/8th car in a 1/10th chassis, they put a 1/6th on a 1/8th chassis. and things break! shocking, i know! 2) what is it with Losi and their fetish for fake swaybars? it's a huge, expensive car, put in a real one! 3) IF they do another Lasernut, please, for the love of god, PUT IT ON PORTALS! sad how they go out of their way to make it look scale, but don't do the most important part of making it a scale U4 car like the real thing next to it in promotional videos: portals 4) continuing from 3): use actual beadlocks and make them aluminium for a bit of weight [needed for CoG tuning due to portals] and speaking of 3), why is it that no big brand does portals for independent suspension cars? the Chinese boutique brands seem to care much MUCH more about actual rock racer realism than all the american big brands combined. sadness question: what's with the super 'squirrelly' wheels? particularly while steering. i haven't seen a single SuperLasernut video where they didn't look like they were on the verge of flying out, or as if they were very poorly assembled beadlocks i'm just sad. so supremely, incredibly, sad and disappointed. realistically, i have no place to run or even store this behemoth, but being a huge U4/KoH fan, i would've made some sacrifices to own this thing if it performed and went a bit beyond fake exhausts for scale realism... but this? this is frankly insulting :( :( :( :( :( [and considering it's the same crap as the predecessor, but bigger and more expensive, there's next to 0 chance of the aftermarket fixing even half of the huge problems with this thing, because it will be so unpopular :(]
Same here . I noticed the thicker grass will wear down and lay flat eventually and wear in a path . I was tearing my yard up so lately I ve found some spots next to tree lines where the grass is thinner . I put the reccomended arrma wide kit on the granite and the aluminum shock mounts that bring the shock out a little bit and it has made for more sticky landings . My k6s rear end still bounces though . I can live with it .
@Hungrybird474 The biggest issue I have with tall grass is electronics overheating. Tall grass is pretty much the highest friction surface you can bash on
Such a good looking buggy. I'm guessing the choice of going with an XXL 1/8 platform, similar to the reason why then went with a XXL 1/10 for the previous smaller Lasernut is to maintain the scale appearance. In both cases using more appropriately sized and robust components would make it look like a thick, chunkier version of the prototype. An RC that is meant to be driven in the same manner as the real thing, where failure would be experienced when driven beyond the capabilities of the real Lasernut. Question is can it hold up to that light bashing? I got the impression that the smaller Losi Lasernut didn't even do that, I thought this one might, but that popped dogbone does raise concerns. At least no parts were broken...one component just disassembled itself. Either way I think you reasonably max out a chassis for typical RC use at the XL size, such as a DB Pro or Baja Rey on a 1/10 platform; or Mojave, Fireteam, or Big Rock on a 1/8 platform.
Yeah that's entirely possible. So far the answer to whether or not it can handle light bashing is no but I'm going to give it a second chance on 6S before I go to 8S in the next video and I've got a few tweaks I'm going to make to give it the best chance of success.
