The Odd Couple: Baltar and Lucifer - A Battlestar Galactica 1978 Compilation 

He was awesome as Kayless the Klingom on Star Trek DS9

@@user-dk3up2nl1m He wasn't Kah'less he was Kor on the Star Trek TOS and reprised as Dahar Master Kor a couple times on DS9 before he passed away not long after.

The Bond villain we never got?

This is Jonathan Harris from Lost in Space... "Anything is possible, but the odds are astronomically against it."

I thought all the cylons were cool in the original series, but Lucifer was particularly cool with that shimmering cone head.

My Anatolian LGD (a dog) has a peculiar pattern on her arse (her curly tail is always up) that always looked like Lucifer to me. I once created a side-by-side image of her arse and Lucifer, and posted it to social media -- only a few old people chuckled, sadly. But now, the youth are made more aware of this old show, with it's dog arsehole-shaped characters. 🎉

I was shocked after I found out as an adult that the actor in the suit was a little person! (I guess it makes sense as they have A LOT of electronics in there to fill up space)

Even George Lucas had Kenny Baker inside R2. Robotics weren't cheap enough to do what the can do with say Baby Yoda today. So human beings, in this case, little people, were the stop gaps - doing what the computers/robotics couldn't. @@SJHFoto

We're not old _yet._ We're middle aged! Yes, it's corny. Yes the execution owes a lot to _Star Wars_ (tho' not the concept; Larsen was shopping the show around as early as 1970; obviously Lucas' success got the show green lit.) and yes it's lighthearted, if not comic, tone is sometimes at odds with it's very dark core story. @@cacogenicist

It was a well made sci-fi drama...it never gets the love it deserves. At least the remake gets respect.

@@mikep5335 The remake wasn't influenced as much by Star Wars.

@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq right. And actually the pilot, originally called "Adams Ark" was written by Glen Larson in the 60s...So actually the original idea WAS original...even if later drafts nodded to the Star Wars phenomenon (probably because of network pressure)

@@mikep5335 I think that there was pressure to emulate some ideas from Star Wars, from Glen Larson or a studio suit / exec. BTW even the fighter / utility craft in Babylon 5 were designed to loosely resemble X-wings.

The novelizations explore Lucifer’s sarcasm

It seemed to me that Lucifer's "... By your command..." almost turned into a "whatever" after a while. Lol

A sarcasm that Baltar often misses. A fact not lost on Lucifer. If the show had managed a few seasons, it would have been interesting to see where that might have gone. As it was, we got what we got.

@@Estes705it talking about desires , in the garden of eden the demon offer human becoming gods , this is replicated in myth in the Middle East genies grant wishes but always end very bad , the narrative is about doing a pact with hell , trust me this is not a joke , Disney another corporation run by occultist in fact Walt was 33 degree mason use godmothers to grant wishes now you know what it really mean in the far East dragons grant wishes and the number 666 is good luck get it all is satanism . Satan is call in the Bible serpent and the ancient dragon.

Lucifer reminds me of a combination of C3PO and Dr. Smith from Lost In Space

I wish they did a new series with these guys in charge of the cylona

Even as a little kid I loved his voice. I watched _Lost in Space_ because of him. That show drove me nuts even in single digits. Everyone knows the _second_ time Dr Smith sells them out, he'd have been taken behind one of those big rocks and gotten the Paulie treatment (no canolis this time tho). It was simply not tenable that he wasn't unalived.

Mr. Harris’ delivery was impeccable! There are no actors around today that can duplicate him

I thought I recognised his voice, thanks for the clarity.

They could of also gotten the actor that voices KITT(Also played Mr. Feeney from Boy Meets World) from Knight Rider to do Lucifer's voice too. He did appear in the Halloween episode of Galactica 1980.

And he got to play Lucifer in Fantasy Island!!

A perhaps unconscious inspiration. The parallel runs even deeper than that. Both Baltar and Lucfer are completely amoral - whatever will accomplish the task or goal, is a good thing. The Cylons are very soclialist about stuff: if there's resistance - smash it, buy it, circumvent it, but overcome it by whatever means necessary. Whereas Kirk and Spock had deeply moral cores - defend the process of laws, Federation population, property etc. Now they often broke the rules doing this, but the moral nature of what they did was always apparent. So Lucifer/Baltar are a moral mirror to Spock/Kirk.

Very well said. These well written exchanges were the absolute highlights of the series.

I've heard that they would have had humanoid Cylons, including a *female* Cylon like Six in RDM's Galactica.

The more modern one wasn't much better either.

@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Actually they did have Humanoid Cylons for one two part episode of Galactica 1980 and that episode wasn't too bad.

@@michaelbenjmitchell1 I've heard that there were plans to introduce a *female humanoid Cylon* if Galactica 1980 had lasted. I think that Richard Hatch's idea for BSG:The Second Coming might've been swiped for Ronald D. Moore's version, but I don't have any proof.

@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq The Reboot series was pretty much Hatch's and Moore's brainchild.

one day....

@@TheRogerhill1234 Would need permission from the Harris estates first.

"Oh the pain - the pain of it all" - myself and my eldest still use that one to this day - drives everyone else bonkers. GREAT!

I'm sure when it reads half the prompts we give it, it silently thinks, "Oh the pain... the pain!"

Kor the Klingon, Baltar, " Quinn ", an alien / human mutant hybrid in The War of the Worlds series - quite a body of work for his filmography.

Honestly John Colicos, Jonathan Harris, Lorne Greene, as well as Patrick McNee made that show. Lloyd Bridges also was great. Gotta love old school.

@@CT-uv8os Gotta agree with you there. Most of them weren't just " famous for being famous ". They earned their stripes, folks !

Lucifer was basically a snarky version of See - Threepio who liked dressing like Liberace ( Google him..... ).

Patrick MacNee played John Steed.

@@CT-uv8os Yes, and he did the voice of the Cylon Supreme leader, as well as, a Devil like figure later in the season.I screwed up his name. Thanks.😀😀😀

A trio of really evil characters- All famously known of other Science fiction to shows.😊. Except McNee he was the good guy in The Avengers.

@@paulhunter6742 Everyone makes a mistake sometimes, lol!! Patrick McNee's voice is unmistakable, as is Jonathan Harris'. John Colicos was perfect as Baltar. A great shame these 3 actors are no longer with us. Classic. Such a classic.

​@MichaelKurse Np. Sorry for the late reply. Lorne Green, George Murdock and Lloyd Bridges were great on the show too. I love the esoteric overline of BGS OG.Cant beat old school!

The extraterrestrial " Odd Couple " !

@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Thanks to you, now I can't get The Odd Couple TV song out of my head! 🤣

@@pacnwguy9056 Congratulations ! You've got EARWORM ! I had it all through Christmas when they played " Last Christmas " & " All I want for Christmas is You " to oversaturation. Oh, yeah - I think that Six or Brother Cavill was the RDM Galactica version of Lucifer. I'm not the FIRST person to express that idea, BTW.

Knowing Jonathan Harris, that would have degraded into a comedy pretty quickly.

This was really intresting! We never got a complete back story or ending on Baltar

Same, he was adorable in that episode!

RIP Jonathan Harris

Maybe he had a stack of magazines or comic books?

Yep. So was his opposite number, Adama (well, a Canadian at least)

Yeah, Lorne Greene (sp?) bounced for better weather eventually! ;) @@SJHFoto

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It does lead to some interesting questions. Does he just sit on that throne 8 hours a day awaiting these occasional updates? And yet, back in 78, I NEVER thought of that.

Hehe!

Lucifer - Like a snarkier See - Threepio.

Wasn’t quite the same. But yes.

Same. It's awesome.

In German, I think it was "zu Ihren Diensten", which is more like "at your service".

I recall a comic run that finished up the story (better than G80 imo) which had him become a cyborg after multiple injuries, but that could be changed to fit the theory.

Okay, I looked it up and it's from 2009 and a completion of G80 that saw Adama and Baltar face off one last time as the Galacticans and Earthlings teamed up against the Cylons in a climactic finale. It was part of the Classic BSG Omnibus Volume 1, which I got my dad for his birthday a number of years ago.

@@darthplagueis4626 Very nice! I also recall Earth building a Battlestar in Adama's honor and uses his name. It was a TRS Jupiter Battlestar!

Lucifer: "We are ALL machines. Even you...of a sort!"😉

Baltar was executed by the Cylons in the theatrical version of the first couple episodes

I also like how he told Lucifer that he would do it even if they were human pilots and Lucifer agreed (with the ironic tone to suggest how loathesome Baltar is)

@@SJHFoto To make an omelette you have to break a few Cylons ?

Me too. But I've always wondered what was up with the collar. Too low. The neck area is kind of drafty. And that white portion, I'm not sure what that was supposed to be. Some sort of undershirt? But then now I see it again, it seems like it's trying to be a cravat or ascot. Kind of like a Count might wear (as in "Count Baltar").

@@zemxxi2765 How did he get his laundry done, since the base ships had no laundry facilities ?

Possibly, the imperious leader demoted lucifer for what he considered failure.

He said once that he was asked that very same question. He told a group of fans that he was reading MARVEL comics !

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That was in the movie version. Once it was accepted as a series, they cut that dialogue

Yeah, it was undoubtedly too expensive to maintain the large throne room from the early episodes of the show.

I know. He’s not even got a tv in there.

According to Count Iblis, he compelled Baltar to go to the Colonial Fleet, although in Baltar's mind, he probably thinks he reasoned it out of his own accord.

@@darthplagueis4626 That's another mystery left unsolved. The agroship miracle was also suggested to be a coincidence.

Doesn't that contradict the transactional nature of Iblis' power? He himself says he has no power of Apollo because Apollo rejected him. While Sheba willingly followed him and therefore, he could kill her. If he _compelled_ Baltar somehow, that kinda blows that mechanic right up. Of course, if he meant he blackmailed him or something, then ok. If so, it would also beg the question as to why Iblis didn't just compel say Tigh to take command or Starbuck to do whatever? Imo, making Iblis' power contingent upon _consent_ makes for a much more interesting dynamic. And is one of the more interesting parts of the mythology of Satan. @@darthplagueis4626

Wouldn't it have just been the Mormon-Angel guys in the sparkly-glowy ship that saves Apollo and Starbuck? -- and gives them the snazzy white unis! @@zemxxi2765

Commander Gampu.

Yep. Didn't James Doohan play a commander on that show also?

@@CT-uv8os Yes! He left to go film The Motion Picture!