The Orient Mako Is BACK! Mako III Review (The Real One!)

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After Years of rumors, speculation, and most of all confusion. The Orient Mako III is finally here. It long winding story, but the end result is one worthy of Orient's legacy.
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00:00 It Does EXIST!
00:55 Long Winding Road
03:27 Kamasu Platform and Specs
04:14 On The Wrist
05:03 The Confusing Mess of Names
06:50 We Are to Blame
07:50 A Lot Of the Same
09:09 Same Negatives
10:42 The Hawaiian of Dive Watches
11:54 Grey Dial
14:34 LUME!
15:30 Confusing Colorways
17:00 All You Need

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@RelativeTime Год назад

One correction. For the movement, the beat rate is 21,600 BPH. I copied the text for the video from an older one and forgot to change that part. Also check out Dave's Unboxing of the limited version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gbqf0EZPD3c.html

@rodrigopinto4000 Год назад

Also, I believe the crown is different on this watch (it definitely potrudes more and has a different teeth pattern to it) than on the Kamasu

@9426sunny Год назад

Mako=shark(Look at the back case), Ray = Stingray(Look at the whole case shape), Kamasu = Japanese Barracuda (Look at the minute hand's shape)

@sheepdog-kp9hb Месяц назад

Interesting

@sheepdog-kp9hb Месяц назад

I'm so confused what do we call it? Please help lol

@hobyabernathy9942 Год назад

Thanks Shane for another great review. I appreciate the backstory of Orient and recognize the effort you put forth in creating this video. Nice job in summarizing the situation. The Mako 3 looks good but it seems like I always go back to consider the Kamasu…one of these days I might have to pull the trigger! Thanks again!

@NoNameNo.5 Год назад

Been waiting for this watch! Looks amazing, great review

@XjohnjohnX88 Год назад

Great video! And it reminds me that I used to watch your channel 1 or 2 years ago, then I can't remember. Until the notification of this video. Glad I watched it 😊

@MikeSmith-er1qs Год назад

Great summation comment…. “This is really all you need.” Absolutely correct. The Orient diver collections are just KILLIN’ it!!! I have two Kamasu, two baby tritons, and a Mako 2.

@bernardbarroga1497 Год назад

Good looking watch! And, superb review as always.👍🏼

@reinaldoraphael166 Год назад

Thank you Shane!! Great video as always!!

@BoozewithNick Год назад

As an Orient fan, I loved this unapologetic Orient geek-fest. Too much fun. I love the new Mako 3, the grey dial looks great, and I loved it on the brown leather and grey fabric straps you had it on. This one will be joining the Mako II and Ray II Raven in my collection as soon as I see one at a good price. Thanks for this Orient-oriented episode.

@adk7962 Год назад

I personally appreciate the history lesson. Especially since I’m fairly new to watches. It looks like some sellers are calling it the Kamasu Mako 3. Which makes sense I suppose. When prices come down a bit, I am for sure getting the white dial. Thanks for the great review! Oh and I like the numerals.

@dustinr16 Год назад

Great review as usual. I own both a blue Mako USA II and a black Kamasu and love them both. Modded both with LIW bezels and ceramic inserts. Two points: Firstly, the Mako USA was basically a custom watch ordered by the US distributor “Orient Watch USA” and thus was originally only available through the Orient USA store (and sold only to the USA and Canada). Later, they allowed Marc from Long Island Watch to sell the Mako USA II at the end of their production. Secondly the Kamasu was named by Orient Watch USA through a voting poll sent out to customers. So it was actually fans that voted on the final name.

@eugenesergio 8 месяцев назад

Great review!On point on the look and feel dor subdued looking dial.

@timrosenthal46 Год назад

Great review as usual. I love it , and want one. Orient is one of those brands I just have never got around to buying but I like them a lot !

@trailblazer2339 Год назад

Great to see that you still have your red Kamasu with you : ) I got mine (red dial) around the same time as yours. Even though, i dont wear it much, it is still part of my collection.

@RelativeTime Год назад

Every once in a while I think about selling it, but I don't think I ever will.

@RicanAggie Год назад

This is one of my favorite watch channels!

@AlexanderB. Год назад

Beautiful! The colour combo works for me with the gunmetal dial, the earthy bezel colour with gilt and orange accents. And thank god it's got sapphire! 😅

@twitchyjambo Год назад

Great video Shane🤯 great content man😎👍

@bryane2857 Год назад

Thank You... Because of you I started a small collection.

@larrydalton2205 Год назад

Thanks shane, it's nice to see an entry level Orient diver again. I never had the regular Mako 2 but the Ray 2 in blue was my first entry level modern diver before buying an SKX and going deep down this rabbit hole of dive watches. The regular Mako with arabics has always seemed to have weaker lume than the Ray line and the USA lines but even though I never bought a Mako, I always liked the look. I still have that Ray and did a minor mod on it to get a tapered bracelet and sapphire. Still have the white and black versions of the USA 2. So yes the drawbacks are continuing with the small crown and untapered bracelet. I don't even really mind pressed clasps as they often feel slimmer than milled. Orient will probably always stay in my collection.

@younusimam-thesalamproject6340 Год назад

Love my green Kamasu! Great collection anchor.

@ArniesTech Год назад

HOLY!!! I always wanted this Mako dial but never liked the chapter ring. Now my dream has come true 💪🙏😍

@vincebrickner5529 Год назад

Nice review I like my kamsu and my ray. Keep them coming.

@nrs6956 Год назад

Good review. Thank you.

@brianmsahin Год назад

I'm feeling old watching this Shane as I'm wearing my old orange bezel 44.5mm Mako XL, which I think I bought sometime around 2011 with its shake to wake non hacking 46943 movement. I think it came out sometime between the first and second Mako releases. Still one of my favourite watches, excellent timekeeping, accidentally magnetized it a few years so took the opportunity to have it serviced and it's running at +1 spd! You do need a wrist on the larger side with its 51mm lug to lug but I think 7.25" and above is fine. I do like this new one whatever people want to call it and excellent review as always!

@josephj7387 Год назад

Amazing review as always Shane! So much useful information and perspective. I like this grey sunburst look as well. Cheers from Bengaluru India 🙏🇮🇳

@haneda70 Год назад

Excellent review. Thank you

@indyawichofficial1346 Год назад

I must say that this channel is by far the one, if not the best around. From the content to the context, to the way of presentation. Solid, staight to the point, there is no single minute I would call boring. Always informative, objective and interesting - love the perfect narration. Not to mention the look - edit, sound etc. All the best, keep up the fantastic work !!!

@RelativeTime Год назад

Wow! Thank you and thanks for watching!

@dparis2172 Год назад

Agree.

@larrydalton2205 Год назад

Indy got it right.

@timefliesby-jleo474 Год назад

I love this colour way! Awesome! Great video and I enjoyed seeing all the mako/ray/ and kamasu’s in this video

@RelativeTime Год назад

Thanks. I've gotten a lot of footage of those over the years, so I might as well use it.

@timefliesby-jleo474 Год назад

@@RelativeTime yeah for sure, it was great, is the burnt orange only a UK release?

@RelativeTime Год назад

@@timefliesby-jleo474 I think it and another blue version are JDM only.

@gopherproxy Год назад

Doood - you taking off the specs the way you do means awesome lecture ahead 😄👍! Fab review and I think you're right about this new Mako (or whatever it's going to be called) - it's simply not interesting enough in all regards, particulary a step down in design-language compared to the sharp and consistent barracuda look of the red Kamasu. Sadly the bezel spring (I guess?) of my own Kamasu broke after 1 year, it's now a 60 click turn with a wobbly feel, but still love the look of it. Heard about quite some issues with the Kamasu bezel, after I started researching the topic...

@markgray5744 Год назад

The 12 6 9 dial with sword hands is classic military spec diver.

@carlosjerson6730 Год назад

I just got the Orient Baby Triton, the bronze case painted and green dial, I'm ready to love it and behold it for the rest of my life, to each its own I say.

@daleclark3138 Год назад

I have four or five Kamasu models. Now thanks to this video I have another to look for.

@erraldstyler 6 месяцев назад

That red Kamasu was my first and i really love it. The dial is insane in sunlight. Definately getting the grey Mako 3

@edcfyau Год назад

Nice review. I really wish they being back the mako usa white dial

@timothywillis8883 Год назад

Got several Orients, and I love them all! Top quality for reasonable price!

@corneroftheroom3896 Год назад

I love the color of the seconds hand. I’m such a sucker for orange and gray.

@williamhill7312 Год назад

Great video

@Nefville Год назад

I'm definitely a fan of the Orient Mako Kamasu Kanno Ray Tristar 3000. All kidding aside I like the arabics, makes it more versatile looking to me. Kind of a field/ dive watch, or what we call in the south, a sinkhole watch.

@dunderhay9169 Год назад

Great photography, and I found your introduction about Orient names interesting. There are still many great value watches, as you say, the Mako 3 or Kamasu would be as reliable, tough and comfortable as many much more expensive watches.

@jasperyoung2466 Год назад

Damn that grey dial is insane

@larryleyba6496 Год назад

I loved my red Kamasu. It went missing a couple of years ago and I mis it terribly. Oddly enough two other Orients are missing. My Mako XL with a full lume dial, and my champaign colored Ranger. I still have my green Defender 2 and a Nami with a carbon fiber dial. I need to find those watches.

@rickrounds2173 Год назад

Perhaps Orient could give Seiko some tips on how to line up the bezel with the watch indices.

@RelativeTime Год назад

That would be nice.

@adammordo Год назад

And maybe even hook them up with their sapphire glass suppliers.

@aryayogarudhita3953 Год назад

Touché

@Rauz11 Год назад

@@adammordo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm Год назад

It’s always the bracelet… I put my Kamasu on a jubilee with solid end links and a better partially milled clasp and transformed the watch, and one of my favorite watches… A collection of ever 60. I’ll do the same with this one and it’ll be awesome.!

@sneak880 Год назад

Great video as usual... Cheers! By the way, from a few real pics and videos I've seen of the 'white' dial Mako III variant, it's actually a champagne colour.

@RelativeTime Год назад

That's intersting. They should of gone with a polar white.

@sneak880 Год назад

@@RelativeTime agreed!

@MIt-ql5bo 4 месяца назад

Thanks again for this Video

@RelativeTime 4 месяца назад

No problem. Thanks for watching!

@Mr_Memer.876 Год назад

I actually found the crown on the Mako 3 to be far superior to the one on the Kamasu. The teeth are more aggressive giving much better grip. I kept hold of my strapcode Kamasu bracelet when I sold it, so i swapped out the OEM bracelet as soon as it arrived

@janiranta8954 Месяц назад

Just bought the blue one with kamasu II name. About 320e. Cant wait for next week to get it.

@georgegonzalez8818 Год назад

I own the Ray llc. Love it. Looking forward to buying this one

@KNM48 Год назад

I've just picked up the white/silver dial version. I think it looks even better in real life than on the web.

@danieljones3683 Год назад

I have always been a fan of Orient watches. I have a Mako 1 with the blue dial. I also have a Ray 2 with a black dial. I want a Kamasu with a red or green dial, I can't make up my mind. The Mako dial has allways been my favorite for legibility. I am very interested in the Mako 3. I would like to see the dial colors in person but for now my choice would be the grey/silver dial.

@S-Ltd1000 Год назад

I had a V1 with the twin crowns. Loved that watch and regret selling it. For me the pick of the current range is the Triton mini. A little bigger than the Kamasu and the Mako with a more serious tool watch design.

@davidlloydjones752 Год назад

Definitely the best Mako yet.😀

@dig494 Год назад

I am an Orient fan. Comparing this piece with my blue Kamasu on a Long Island Watch bracelet I have to go with the Kamasu but if one was on the fence they are cheap enough to buy both.

@ringaleavo Год назад

The minute hand is too short, thank you Seiko!

@KNM48 Год назад

I like the Mako and it's more field/pilot style dial. I'd like to see a plain black version of the Mako 3 though.

@ScoobieDoobie197474 Год назад

That orange fume dial is fire

@Intelligence3 5 месяцев назад

I recently chose the green Baby Triton. Horizontal Day-Date can look dated, or it can look vintage-inspired. To me it always looks dated on the Orient dive watches, or on any contemporary dive watch, tbh. But the colorways of these are outstanding and unique and it was a close thing for me and for the price it sure seems like owning both is a an option. I like that these colorways are really different, which gives a reason to consider these over the Kamasu. I also think the Arabic Indices provide the same inherent value.

@Sepulkrum Год назад

looks great

@BetamaxBabe Год назад

I liked my red Kamasu when I had one! It was one of the most legible watches I've had. I became annoyed with the disproportioned crown and eventually sold the watch. I'm surprised Orient hasn't corrected that yet.

@TinBin-Craig Год назад

nice watch... like a lot cheers

@chrisroy1613 Год назад

I needed to add that champagne dial to my collection....it kinda jumped off the screen at me!

@horstweihrauch1 Год назад

Got the blue version. Very nice watch

@stavros_katsopr Год назад

Funny enough you're right, whenever you come in my mind, the first thing that pops up next is that red Kamasu... Cheers Shane, happy you continue the Orient's Divers Saga, looks like you'll be the source for it in the future. Be well mate.

@RelativeTime Год назад

Thanks. In some ways this is also a long term review of that Kamasu. Got some newer great shots of it to include.

@MrBacchus18 Год назад

To be more specific the red kamasu I associate with your channel 😀

@smokingbeetles5793 11 месяцев назад

Love Oris. Great quality

@karlsenula9495 Год назад

Dial layout Gives me a bit of a Longine Hydroconquest look to it

@Bonatno Год назад

Would make a great explorer homage by popping off the bezel and putting on a plain non rotating bezel.

@ericsherer3505 Год назад

Crown size is my only issue with my Mako USA. Can not understand why they stay with it.

@adamhill364 Год назад

I bought the original Mako USA with the extra pusher, it's bean in the rotation for years now

@vaclav_fejt 4 месяца назад

I don't like the Mako dial layout and hands, but I respect it for what it is - the base of beautiful original watches like the Ray and Kamasu series.

@RelativeTime 4 месяца назад

This is true.

@anthonydevono8833 Год назад

Have they sorted out the crown on this compared to my kamasu Teal green dial as mine is small and hard to get the thread to catch to re screw in

@brianmccord7387 Год назад

Sorry to double post but I do remember Marc from Long Island Watch telling Tristano that Orient Watch is actually in a weird place in the Seiko Epson corporate umbrella where they are actually overseen by the printer division and they don’t get the same marketing and research and design budget as their big brother. I think that shows in their weird approach to proprietary websites and model names. It seems like someone needs to step in and re-organize things for them, so that they can capitalize on being the value for money diver and dress watch king.

@snapfitness1 Год назад

Im really hesitant on buying after market bracelets. More times then not they arent long enough and i dont think i should pay more for extra links. I like the newedt mako and may look into either the white or silver dial.

@luishd1726 Год назад

Why they insist in doing this so big ? Make it 39/40 mm and 20 lug to lug. Seiko has just done It with his Seiko 5 SKX style. It is the reason why I have not bougth a Kamatsu.

@TheGrenadier97 Год назад

I like the size in my skinny 6,25" wrist, although it could use 20 lug width. I believe that Orient considers a smaller Kamasu in the future, hopefully with better prices than the smaller 5KX.

@larrydalton2205 Год назад

Somehow on this watch and the Ray and Mako USA series the size seems smaller on my wrist. I really don't notice the difference between it and my 40mm divers. In wearing my Christopher Ward Trident Proo 300 40mm today and looking at my wrist it seems no bigger than my Mako USA 2 white dial. Even though it is.

@martinkavanagh196 Год назад

Would you call that "Day-Date" complication 'double action' or 'Triple'?

@MrKanjidude Год назад

It's a pretty good looking watch, that's for sure. I like the colors and the somewhat unique design. Hope they'll offer a smaller size without the day complication in the future.

@Halimsahin6 Год назад

which color is better?

@simonwright6882 Год назад

As far as the naming goes it really should come from the manufacturer. Its weird how you can move up through the levels in collecting yet i sill see the strong value for money in these pieces.

@ishantsoni4748 8 месяцев назад

Hi i which one is good for daily formal wear as well as casual between RA-AA0819N19B an RA-AA0810N19B? I never had any diver watch

@RelativeTime 8 месяцев назад

It depends on your own style, but I think the RA-AA0819N19B would be better for something a little more formal. Although depending on how formal... maybe a good sports watch would work as well.

@krasnaludek298 5 месяцев назад

I really like this watch & typically gray is my favorite color tone, but the gold ruins it for me. I’m not a fan of the 1980s pimptastic gold. I’d go for the Blue or Cream dial versions, as neither has any gold accents. 👍🏻

@chrisbradshaw7708 Год назад

I will admit to being a Seiko fanboy, and have the SKX007, 009, and the Samurai. I have yet to pull the trigger on an Orient, and I'm not sure why. If I had to pinpoint a reason, perhaps odd case sizes and lug widths, particularly on the Bambinos. That said, this grey dial looks spectacular and might be the one that hooks me.

@RelativeTime Год назад

The bambino lug width still confuses me. No idea why they went that way.

@ngebahasjam Год назад

I am still waiting for the ivory dial's price to go down a lil bit. Here in Germany, it costs more than other 2 colour options. I think that ivory colour is simply superb and stunning. Plus I haven't had diver watch with that colour, and also, to give variety on my Orient diver watches. I have Red Kamasu and green Ray III (Kamasu II). So now, time for ivory Mako III. As for blue, I have had already too many diver watches from other brands with blue dial

@RelativeTime Год назад

There is also a new 40mm diver coming from Orient. Not sure of the name yet. I think Orient Japan is just calling it the 40mm Mako.

@R3D-Remi Год назад

Where and when can I buy in the US?

@brianmccord7387 Год назад

I have always felt that the 22 mm bracelet is out of proportion to the usual Orient diver cases. This was particularly egregious on the Mako USA.

@magnang Год назад

Yep. I felt the same about my ray 2. Easy enough fix.. buy a 22mm and 20mm oyster online.. make sure they are the same model, same brand. Use the 22mm endlink with the 20mm bracelet. 20mm band makes a huge upgrade to how the watch looks and feels. It's worth doing.

@danpodina438 Год назад

I have to disagree on this. Dive watches should have a bold wrist presence and I think the 22mm bracelet helps.

@brianmccord7387 Год назад

@@danpodina438 that’s a fair point but if you had seen the 40 mm Mako USA, you would see that the case was actually swallowed by the bracelet and I think it reduced its wrist presence.

@TheGrenadier97 Год назад

I'm ok with 22, but sometimes i look in it on my wrist and have that feeling that "there's too much steel there". I may try multilink bracelets to see kf it changes the look.

@danpodina438 Год назад

@@brianmccord7387 I can see your point. In the end it all comes down to personal preference.

@WashJosh Месяц назад

Complicated story, I ended up with a Mako 3. It’s the Grey face. If I got the Burgundy face and black bezel I’d be more hyped about it. But it’s okay. I’ll just put some NATO Straps and use it for work. It’s classier than my G-shock🤷🏻‍♂️

@fbcpraise Год назад

How many different versions of the Bambino are “still alive and kicking?” Orient seems okay with multi-generational watch lines.

@RelativeTime Год назад

That's a good point. Although is the Bambino name from Orient, or another unoffical nickname?

@bruceleroy8063 Год назад

I like Hawaiian pizza and sharp, yet whimsical dials.

@zippy8442 Год назад

also a killer midrange by innova

@daniesteban4269 Год назад

Hi Shane. Please, can you confirm if the arabic numbers and the applied indices are totally white or are a bit green cause of lumen? Thanks at all. Best regards.

@RelativeTime Год назад

They are white, but will often look a little green because of the lume.

@daniesteban4269 Год назад

@@RelativeTimeThanks for your fast answer. Hope all the luck for your chanel. Best regards.

@nedflanders3769 Год назад

Ugh. The crown is hard enough to use on the Kamasu. And you’re saying it’s even harder to use on tis new watch? They really need to make the crown bigger, or the crown guards smaller, or both!

@user-lk4nk1gy7h Год назад

Orient puts second hand, bezel from Ray in Mako & it fits perfect!!!**) Mako&Ray - Classics now. Faaar classier than Kamasu, i guess. And faaar classier than tons of PRC mikrobranddivers. Colors are pretty attractive for me. Black, blue, orange exists looong time in previous TRUE Mako and Ray (1&2). Price...Mako 2 (without Mighty Sapphire and with short second hand))) was about 150. Now ...300!!! SRP, of course, but ...:)

@watchalot919 Год назад

The Kamasu is indeed the best main stream brand entry diver, but it's a shame Orient are so reluctant to make smaller watches. However, compare it to a microbrand and look at the difference. I look at my Phoibos Voyager 3, which is about the same price, but better in about every way

@robbbbery Год назад

I know this vid is about the mako... but what watch is in the background at 37 seconds?

@RelativeTime Год назад

That's the new Hydrotimer by Jackmason. jackmasonbrand.com/pages/hydrotimer I'll have a review in a few weeks.

@nigedei 10 месяцев назад

I bought the gray one and I am kinda unhappy with it. For my use it is way to reflective, as you mentioned in your video. The readability is Soo bad. Maybe because of my poor eyesight. I keep finding myself dodging this watch all the time and wearing other ones :-/ that's sad, as I really like the design and the size

@kennethchia4517 Год назад

How do you compare it to your slightly pricier Seiko monster STO with penguin feet?

@RelativeTime Год назад

Compared to the Antarctica version, I like that better just because of the unique dial. But if we are talking about any other monster, I'd say the Mako comes out just because of the Sapphire crystal. Very different styles. Like the Mako / Kamasu will be more contemporary, while the monster is a bit stranger and more aggressive. Other than that, fairly comparable.

@cebrium 11 месяцев назад

Do you think this would look good on a black, stainless steel bracelet?

@RelativeTime 11 месяцев назад

Hard to say without seeing it. If it was a fitted bracelet so you didn't see any gaps in the end links, I think it would look okay. But if a normal straight and link I think the silver and black clashed too much

@wuyeah-kx8es Год назад

Naming I thought was pretty clear, dial dictates the watch. Numerals Mako, round indices Ray and rectangular indices Kamasu.

@ralphdsouza5022 Год назад

I ❤ Orient

@waltersjohn6339 Год назад

It is really puzzling why Orient does not "move upscale" and adopt the features of the Mako USA II in all of their watches. Dont get me wrong, I am a huge Orient fan. The Mako II was my first mechanical watch and I have been hooked on mechanical watches ever since. I own a Mako II, a Ray II, two Kamasus and two Mako USA II models. As much as I like the others, the Mako USA models are in another class. The Mako USA models can hold their own with watches costing twice as much (or more). Why make anything else?? Or why not sell dive watches at several price tiers? These new models don't really offer me anything that I dont already love about the Orients that I own. Like you, I think that the red Kamasu on a Strapcode bracelet is pretty hard to top and is my "go to" watch.. I agree, the white Mako III is about the only one that I would consider.

@galacticcaveman4045 Год назад

Yeah, this one might end up being called the "baby triton XL version 1.26" On a serious note, i'm with ya, this should be called the Mako 3, and the upgraded ray(the round indices) should have been called the Ray 3, not the kamasu 2. it makes no sense, it's not some upgrade over the kamasu in any way.