The Ouya is still alive...in 2022 | MVG 

Stadia isn’t even a platform anymore, just a service that might be integrated into a ChromeCast. So uhh lol

@@jankocbek85 You write like a Stadia investor. You probably have butthurt.

Its still alive tho

Stadia is not dying soon, it was just rumors, Google themselves just confirmed they are not shutting down their service.

@@HelmuthGerka Yeah and Google has never shut down multiple companies or services ever...

that should have been its entire function, a tool for beginner developers to create and share their games - imagine if it had been marketed that way - it never would have had to compete with infinitely more advanced products

cool

@@weston407 agreed

And I liked it!

Shut up.

Lol imagine if the always on drm was mentioned in the kickstarter, it would have been at least one of the least funded kickstarters I bet.

@@plasmaoctopus1728 yup, definitely. This is why im proud of cracking groups and proud of hurting game sales of greedy cun7s like EA by cracking games literally a few hours after release.

There was no drm. There never has been. You never were required to be connected to the internet to play the games. I'm not connected now and I have a limited edition that's full of games and software and everything on it works. I was just using it a few days ago.

@@yackablejohnson1485 you clearly have no idea. There were MANY games with DRM's that required an active internet connection. If you really think DRM doesnt exist in games then you need help, asap. one word: Denuvo.

Indeed, an expensive lie...

Keen to know what was going on behind the scenes, if you're willing to divulge! Was the whole thing a mess from the beginning? I remember the Kickstarter video had really high production values and thinking that their marketing team really knew their stuff.

Thanks for the memories man. It's surprising how well y'all got the UI to run despite the hardware limitations.

This is a reddit AMA waiting to happen.

@@SonicBoone56 Am I missing something? He said it was a quad-core 1.6GHz SoC, right? That’s “limited?” Seems pretty respectable for the time...

It might be good to look into handing that server software to the homebrewers if your not under any disclosure agreement would be interesting to see what they could do with it

Is anyone actually buying your games on ouya?

@@No_True_Scotsman it's literally impossible to buy directly until the custom store launches from the community

Why make games for it though? So all five of your fans will see them?

@@twisted_nether373 you clearly have never been passionate about something.

@@SonicBoone56 there is a custom "store" but doesn't support payments. But new apps and games get added to it.

In a way the creators of the Ouya got their wish granted monkey paw-style. They did make a console that was kept alive by hackers and homebrewers, but this meant they couldn't sell a dime's worth of software on it.

@@ZorotheGallade The lack of licensing completely killed it, no doubt. My question is if the micro-console movement actually succeeded. it seems to me nothing came of it, and anyone who has one of those things mostly uses it for TV and streaming.

@@poetryflynn3712 I don't think it was the lack of licensing. We knew at the time what this was; it was a smartphone hooked to a TV... but done so with a better User Interface, Shell, and Controller. It was promised to be decent, and not clunky. But clunky is what they delivered with that poor UI, lack of games and sideloading, and that horrible controller. It was very similar to the cheap Chinese gadgets of the day. That was one of the main killers, the second thing that killed this was the slow release and weak hardware. Tegra-3 chipset was decent for early 2012, but when this shipped in late 2013 and after it was quite obsolete. OUYA could have succeeded if they managed to rush it out the way it was, but in early-2012 and gave the developers all the tools to help make it better. It would've been praised by the community, and kept around like a Raspberry Pi or Odroid. They could have made a second version with much better software, better controller, and processor (cheap QSD 810) and expand into retail stores. Then they could have made the third version, as a free upgrade (trade-in-service) later featuring a much more powerful QSD 835 chipset, except this time the bootloader is eFuse locked, no sideloading, and all the games are free to use, but there's a reoccurring USD $8/monthly fee. And it becomes the Spotify for Indie Gaming.

@@ekinteko I think you kinda hit on the main point there. They dropped the ball on overall execution. Aside from the controller issues, it was a perfectly acceptable first go around and could have gained traction over time. - I don’t think locking the bootloader, blocking sideloading, or a monthly fee would have been totally good things. Granted that selling a completely open ‘developer version’ and a locked bootloader + some exclusive games ‘consumer version’ might have worked out.

@@jnharton Cheers, thanks. It was more about embracing the development community and giving it a cult status, for the early days when they're at risk of not making market penetration. After that, they now have the designs, expertise, and technology to make something competitive. And they can apply those previous 5-years of hard work for a next-gen version. With the next-gen version is aimed at the mainstream people, hence the subscription model. But a subscription model device like this would never succeed if people can circumvent the locks easily. That's the philosophy anyway.

I'm gonna go check out Trashmania right now!

If I ever get an OUYA I might give a shot.

How much did you end up getting paid?

There WAS an Xperia Play. It was a little weak-sauce.

@@blunderingfool like most of there digital storefronts

To be honest I'm kinda glad emulation handhelds are the current norm instead. Having one device and having to worry about battery life, notifications and calls in the middle of games and what not just kinda sounds like a pain, like those android controllers.

Steam Deck and things like Anbernic's handhelds exist outside of Google and Apple's corrupt mobile storefront infrastructure to fill this void.

Agreed. I use a ps3 pad

I had mine as a Kodi media center. Awfull console but great (at the time) media center.

I loved the vision, hated the execution. For the price I paid it was totally worth the price of entry regardless.

@Nomad Ouya should have had exclusive 1st party games

@Bold Onecalling the Ouya controller" garbage" is an insult to actual garbage 😅

THE AMAZING FROG WAS SO GOOD!

​@@AdamCortez11It's on Steam now and still recieves updates regularly, I played it today with a friend

And unfortunately Genshin Impact has revived that trend, now a lot of companies are gonna make average to bad open world mobile games that also run on PC with gacha that's about the beautiful hot female characters and handsome hot male characters.

​@@thegamerfe8751 Gacha and lootboxes were already a huge trend in AAA games before Genshin Impact. Hard to believe there's going to be another gacha game as big as Genshin Impact as of right now. And there's nothing wrong with beautiful female characters and handsome male characters, in fact more companies should be following suit in their character design.

@@you-chan4641 Honestly, Genshin is barely even a Gacha game. Most people playing it don't play it for that reason. The problem with gaming right now is that too many people from outside of gaming want to make an impact using the same strategies that have failed over and over. Crypto, Mobile, Cloud, VR, etc.

"Everyone" ?

@@poetryflynn3712 "Genshin is barely even a Gacha game" Nice joke.

You could use other controllers right from the start. I have been using my old Six Axis PS3 controller that came with my original PS3 model (prior to Dualshock 3) and it worked just fine. I use it for emulators all the time.

@@LUCKO2022 Yeah, i've used a PS3 controller on it with zero issues. I even have a saturn to usb converter and it works fine on it

To clarify what I meant to say was that it shouldn't have even shipped with a controller, it would have been more hacky and more in the spiirit of indie gaming.

That's the problem with these big companies. They will sue for piracy yet they do nothing to preserve their own games and would just happily close online store fronts. Some can't even emulate their own games *ahem Nintendo and Sony*

Expect the price to go up by 800% on eBay after this video....

@@ooze1982 They just want to re-release it and sell it again for $60

@@literallyanything9811 they’re probably pulling a HMJ. Hyping it up to be able to offload their devices at a premium. It’s not like this is a necessary revolutionary must have device like arguably the PSTV. Way cheaper or more powerful to DIY.

Exactly put

"I'm going to pack this up" -unplugs it from the tv and puts it on a desk instead of packing it up- I don't understand that train of thought lol

Rich from rtusa always hated it.

Ouya was conceived from poorly done market research, not from desire to make something enjoyable. And it really shows.

Nothing special.

That sounds like a reason why it died honestly

Yeah I wrote it off immediately thinking it was just a console that played mobile games

Ouya was conceived from poorly done market research, not from desire to make something enjoyable. And it really shows.

@@Thatonedude917 Even so, the hardware structure was identical to that of 2009, similar to the Zeebo. Despite releasing in 2013, the system will struggle to run mobile games that were recently released on then-current mobile platforms. Chances are that Ouya may struggle running games like Chain Chronicle and is possibly unable to run games like Mario Kart Tour. However, it may have no problems running the entire Zeebo catalogue of games.

Given recent developments I think it's safe to say it's dead and never fully materializing by now.

LMAO

I still regret not convincing my dad to get the Sega Dreamcast at Toys R Us many many moons ago. It was on clearance for $99.

love this

AWWWW

It's eeeeeasily powerful enough hardware wise but the old Android and its Java based, highly layered architecture is not helping. The base system didn't have gaming ambitions at the time, the whole input event loop, surfaceflinger update etc have non realtime behaviour. Attempts at low latency audio output get punished hard by the operating system as well. A better engineering company could have reworked it to fix scheduling, fix priorities, and create fast paths for critical game functionality.

@@SianaGearz enough for what?! ps1 at most

@@megajatt123 a lot more than that. N64 (except a handful games), Dreamcast (with some transparency glitches), PSP, if the software didn't suck. GameCube/Wii might be a bit of a stretch. But all of this needs the sort of drivers and a dedicated low overhead API that wouldn't have happened in that era, not on an open platform for sure, before Vulkan. PS1 you probably don't even want to use hardware acceleration, it's faster to just draw in software, too much overhead.

@@SianaGearz bruh there is no way on hell tegra 3 finna be able to gc at even halfspeed let alone wii

Android is a disease, every console/phone/tablet/pc who is older then 5 years is unusable with this OS

agreed, it's fascinating stuff

Congratulations you have been selected amongst my shortlisted winner's 🎁

I agree, the Nvidia Shield IS a successful device, no doubt.

@@RarebitFiends most people like the shield tv for it's powerhouse home media abilities, not as an Android gaming device. That's pretty much how it's marketed I like it either way, but it's not like the shield brand has been marketed as a gaming device for a while. It's more of a bonus than the main draw

@@davidlane1248 I agree they did find a good way to market it!

Do Android boxes count? They make plenty of those, but you probably meant an Android console in the style of a video game store or some such perhaps?

@@crystalwater505 Theoretically any Android-based device with decent specs and Google Play store that plugs into a TV would qualify. I don't have much experience with the Android boxes, so I can't say for sure. I guess at least some of them would work.

I Never had any issues with the controller 👍

Retail on eBay

Keep them and let your kids sell them, by then they will be priceless rarity antiques. Provided you keep the boxes unopened! I collect all kinds of stuff like that, and spending £12000 in 15 years, my collection on resale is already worth three times that. Wish I had a boxed OUYA these things are worth more in the box than they ever will be in your hands. Those two could pay for your childrens education, marriage and started house. No joke!

@@DailyCorvid lol, no they won't 😀

@@jothain Why is that? This should be interesting... Please since you seem to know a lot about this particular subject : *Enlighten me* , as to why in 50 years time, two brand-new-in-box OUYA's will not be worth at least enough to put one child through college and then get them a starter property, with coins left for a wedding ring? EDIT : If you've got half a brain you won't bother trying to prove that, and will slink away quietly.

raspberry pi is the best for emulation

No Ethernet on the Kickstarter edition? Wow, y’all got screwed.

@@elephystry The Kickstarter edition had ethernet.

@@TechTrappings oh okay thank you

The Lemonade Factory was around the corner from the Tootsie Roll factory.

It’s still cheap enough that if it dies it dies, I’ve been using mine for stadia for a year and it’s still alive.

@@EvertG8086 for now. google is trying to sell it stadia.

There was a copper colored OUYA? 😮

This is a hilarious cope

@@IvanKinkle - Yep, look up Ouya limited edition brown on RU-vid. It was only available for the very last week of the original Kickstarter. A lot of old photos make it look dark brown, but under proper lighting it had this beautiful copper/bronze sheen to it.

It is good for emulation, sure, but it is far more fun to explore all the wacky games that were made for it. Some, as pointed out in the video, were just bad. Some looked bad but played great. And others were just awesome - including some that never really had any press coverage. The native game library is severely underestimated if you ask me - luckily some of them had success on other platforms, too.

Maybe some new version of Nvidia Shield 🙂

Are there*any* good games on Android only? I'm not kidding.

"The television” mentioned x1000

@@rennmaxbeta Then there's the infamous "Our controller has a touchpad! You won't find that anywhere else!" Only to have the interviewer correct her, in front of a live audience.

I think so too. Never got one, but I definitely wanted it to succeed. But I suppose whatever the platform is, it needs some Sonic, Mario whatever to gain any traction. I was also but sceptical about having platform that would do indie games, but still have good emulation properties. Latter is so big thing that it'll for sure eat out revenue from platform store. But I think something like this will still hit through quite heavy. Considering how many countries are in energy crisis, heck mine got doubled just a week ago. Now would be good to have something like this and slap simple "compare energy consumption to pc and Xbox and ps5" in features too.

@@jothain I say the Ouya was the precursor to the 'set-top box' and single board computer craze that is going on right now.

@@shadowtheimpure I suppose so. It's interesting to see that many mini consoles like Nintendo, Sega and Psx have sold fairly well recently. I'm actually fairly surprised about that as most seem to have quite bad lineup of games in them. Though I guess they all have been hacked to remedy situation. Anyway in theory this predecessor offered more out of box.

The Downfall came imho around 2011-2012. Before that there were amazing games and often had a free lite version as a demo. Games like Asphalt 4, NfS:Shift, NOVA or galaxy on fire are great games with tons of content. Then there were simpler 2D games like mirrors edge or puzzle games which required touch or accelerometer input to steer.

Yah no it is all rtusa and yongyeah

this guy hasn't heard of the ayn odin everyone point and laugh

@@supernoob17 ayn Odin doesn't fix the fact that Android is a crappy platform for games. Also Windows For Arms is Dookie

@@supernoob17 Point at yourself and laugh, nimrod. It's just another one of the many "x86-based handhelds" I explicitly called-out in my comment I never said the Deck was "the only one."