The Painful World of Crafting Achievements - Getting Every Achievement in FFXIV #13 

"Tremble" being moved to market board purchases is a MOOD.

REMEMBER TO CRAFT ITEMS THAT YOU CAN HAND INTO TRADECRAFT LEVE QUESTS!

From the deepest pits of the market board, to the very pinnacle of the guild suppliers, the economy shall tremble!

18:55. Materiel, with an E, refers to the arms/armor/equipment used by a military force, as in "anti-materiel rifle". Material, with an A, is just a blanket term for any objects/supplies used in manufacturing something.

as a Levi native -- dancing cat boy in the thong is known as the mayor of limsa -- very rare for him to be active but he's a sweetie

Athena’s TREMBLE for having to spend money on the market board is the best use of that joke yet 😂

Crafting Relic tools are known as this: ARR - Luminary Tools/Mastercraft Tools - these are rewarded for doing all of the “Craft/Gather X Times” achievements up to level 50. Heavensward and Stormblood - Blessed Tools are achievement rewards for completing entries in the Crafting Logs, Fishing Logs, and Gathering Logs. The HW tools are Lv.60 (IL 200) and the SB tools are Lv.70 (IL 350). Shadowbringers - Skysteel Tools and Resplendent Tools Endwalker - Splendorous Tools ...But we all know the supreme Crafter/Gatherer Achievement is Pteranodon - Earn 500,000 points toward your skyward score as every Disciple of the Hand and Land.

The best part about the crafting grind is also the worst - it's mind-numbing. How do you guys stay awake while crafting?

0:22 «Saint of the Firmament» just casually balling behind you the whole time, laughing at what you consider a grind

Something to note is that Ishgardian restoration achievements (500k points and 100 tier 2/3/4) get you about 500-600 completions for the level 80 bracket, and the ShB/EW relics get you another 100-200 for their respective brackets.

If you ever see the auto translate "Mare Lamentorum" in someone's adventurer plate, it's a sneaky way to say they have cosmetic mods on and they're using Mare, a tool that synchronizes your mods with other Mare users so that they can see what you REALLY look like. Now you know.

@24:00 "I don't know why those don't count" The only entries that count for the "craft X unique items" achievements are leveling recipes and housing items. Basically if there isn't a check mark there after you crafted it, it doesn't count.

Universalis information is crowdsourced, the biggest problem with using it is that every once in a while, you'll look up a niche item with buy/sell prices up to days ago. As well as prices reportsc fluctuating on high demand items, i.e. new map glams.

11:05 The reason why prices are high on that data center is because often times, the market board is used as extra inventory space. Doesn't stop people from paying that much if they want, but there's less incentive to buy when prices are that high.

One thing to note about the mass craft achievements; quick synth speed is affected by your FPS. So if you do it with your afk frame-limiter enabled, or on a low FPS monitor, it takes quite a bit longer. Small scale it doesn't matter, but when aiming for thousands of crafts, a 144+ monitor can save you hours in the long run.

When you started this series, I started working on the crafting achievements. I'm currently working on completing the crafting log & using the crafting steps in-between to help with the bulk achievements. So far I've completed the crafting log 1-50 on each job, but then I realized housing items also counted towards completion...

I've been on a crafting spree myself! Since last week's video, I have conquered Memoria Misera EX for the first time (10 points), mapped the Lunar Subterrane (10 points), completed the 6.5 storyline (20 points), completed the 6.55 storyline (20 points), completed Tataru's Grand Endeavor questline (10 points), completed my 200th guildhest (20 points), participated in my 1000th Frontline match (20 points), completed the final step of the Mandervillous relic weapon for red mage (10 points), defeated Titania EX for the first time (10 points), and... a plethora of crafting achievements: Crafting 3000 times between levels 41 and 50 for CUL (10 points), thus unlocking the achievement for completing all the "craft x times between levels x and y" from levels 1 to 50 for CUL (30 points) which I was working on last week, crafting 1000 times between levels 51 and 60 for CUL (10 points), crafting 1000 times between levels 61 and 70 for CUL (10 points), crafting 1000 times between levels 71 and 80 for CUL (10 points), crafting 1000 times between levels 81 and 90 for CUL (10 points), crafting 50 times between levels 1 and 10 for ARM (5 points), crafting 300 times between levels 11 and 20 for ARM (5 points), crafting 750 times between levels 21 and 30 for ARM (5 points), crafting 1500 times between levels 31 and 40 for ARM (5 points), and finally, crafting 3000 times between levels 41 and 50 for ARM (10 points), thus unlocking the achievement for completing all the "craft x times between levels x and y" from 1 to 50 on ARM (30 points). All this crafting costed me roughly 10M gil, but I'll get a fair bit of that back over time as my stacks of flour and ingots sell. This week was worth a whopping 270 points for me! I now stand at 19,605 points (ingame) or 18,510 points (Lalachievements scoring system), and I have climbed to #67 on Adamantoise, gaining SIX ranks since last week. That's huge when in the top 100! Grind on, all you achievement hunters! Edit: A comment in regards to crafting recipes not counting for the log. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe only regular crafts and housing crafts count towards the log for achievements to craft x amount of different items per crafter job.

And I was today years old when I discovered you could hide completed recipes. Thanks Cider Spider for being the most Chaddiest of Chads. Stay strong, and keep grindin'!

as a crafting main pro-tip, retainer ventures are your friend esp when doing achievements! they can gather anything and everything you've gathered except clusters or certain timed/ephemeral nodes so it's much more effective and cheaper to send retainers out for shards and crystals or for mats you know you're going to need but don't have time to gather yourself, including timed nodes that aren't up (retainers aren't restricted to the timer clock, they can gather a timed node once an hour regardless if it's up or not!) and save you a lot of time and money. I usually send mine out while I'm doing other content or while i'm gathering the stuff they can't gather so I can get multiple things done at once.

As a crafter main (finishing my 10,000 HQ wvr recipes right now!) I loved this! A tip: Delicate synthesis is a great skill for low level crafts. It will often give you full quality and progress in just 1 step! (instead of trained eye+basic) I've used it up to lvl 40 recipes, but that could depend on your level/gear

I went to Dynamis once, made a new character just because, and it seemed pretty well populated at the time. Though there was also a bunch of Roe-bots standing in formation near the market board. Half were in tuxedos, the rest were in speedos. They all had names like "Lala Puncher" or "Weeb Killer" or whatever. It was so weird that i logged off and deleted that character. Learned later that apparently it was some guy who thought some people were playing the game wrong and would harass them in chat.

This week really was the child labor episode

Glad our dancing pope catgirl on Coeurl got a shoutout

12:29 you missed Ultros’ catgirl that does /wringhands everytime they’re afk on the bridge, I know them and are apart of their FC Also amazing video as always ❤

This video reminded me that I have almost sold all of my Growth Formula Deltas. I got the ALC achievement a very, *VERY* long time ago. I am just now down to 123 left to sell.

To get a check mark for every single crafting recipe, I had to spend nearly 40 million gil to craft the Hakutaku Eye Cluster. I wasn't doing Eureka, and it was still current content at the time. It hurt.

I've debated saying anything for a while, thought maybe you'd like to know. I wanted to thank you for these weekly videos. My mother (who I'd been the caretaker of for over 7 years, who became effectively my entire world) died suddenly in October, about a month and a half before this series began. Your weekly videos have provided me with regular doses of much-needed humor and laughter at a time when overwhelming grief has been a constant shadow. I know it's not much, I'm just one random person you'll never meet IRL, but I thought i should tell you that your humor has made one person's life a little less painful. So, thank you again, CiderSpider, for doing what you do.

at 17:50, you're looking at recipes that *use* Concentrated Spirits of Salt, not what makes it. To find the recipe that makes it you search in the top left of the Crafting Log instead.

Magitek Repair Materials was my go-to for the 41-50 range for the crafters. Only two mats, one of which you could buy from vendors or GC seals, and a decent sell on the MB So, ironically, that range was far easier to do than the 31-40

For the level 41-50 crafter achievements, a consistent item I have personally crafted is Magitek Repair Materials! All crafters can craft it using the exact same two materials (just different crystals), and it's market tradeable. One of the items (Grade 6 Dark Matter) is vendor purchaseable via gil, GC currency, or even Wolf Marks, and the other isn't *terrible* to grind out.

13:58 huh. that is my character right there. forgot i was afk with that werewolf outfit in limsa lol

11:52 Papa Mog is a staple of Lamia, he's like a cryptid, most times he's standing right there, and everything is right with the world, but sometimes he's missing, and then you have to contend with the knowledge that you could encounter him *anywhere*

Firmament Achievements are the most expensive I've done

The most expensive thing I did in FFXIV was pentamelding my crafting and gathering gear so as to be able to gather the mats from legendary nodes to craft the Riniscita gear. FFXIV is such a player-friendly, non-punishing game that I was really taken aback. Pentamelding is mandatory, but the failure rate is astonishingly high. I got as much materia as I could with scrips, but it still cost me around 11M gil to complete, which was nearly all I had after just a year of playing a lot. I got it back flogging the gear I made, but casuals have no chance.

I’m not 100% sure how I feel about Athena whisper yelling “TREMBLE!” in my ear…😂

I just went and did every recipe in game ever once, and then saw what was left...took ages but im crazy. now im working on getting every fish...this takes even more. Good luck on the ocean fishing quest, you actually need a premade for some of those achievements

There's so many things I'm looking forward to in this series, from the Zadnor duels to the Ultimate achievements I am excited and nervous to see how those will go when you eventually get to them but I'm rooting for you Cider!

I bought both of my FC's airships, that's about the most I've dunked in-game ever. About 800k per piece averaged out, so I spent a nice 6.4M gil. Thank goodness I'm going to make it back with all that Dusk Leather and Company Tabards/Company Hats! Maybe. I'm probably going to make more from grinding through Eureka to get three relic weapons lmao.

Since you're doing -all- of the achievements, you might want to keep in mind that you can use the Ishgard restoration expert crafts that you'll need to do ~500 of (for each crafter) to get a lot of progress on the 71-80 craft achievements.

I’m still pretty new, so the most I’ve spent towards an achievement would have to be around 100k gil towards the ARR base relics

5:34 - I commend the dedication to the bit for like a second, tops, of background audio that half the audience won't notice. I've done a fair bit of crafting log completion, though I haven't done the "synthesize nine thousand boolsheets" grinds for most classes yet. Money isn't a concern, because I hit gil cap off crafting in HW/SB when the barrier to entry was substantially higher (and thus competition was much lower)... but holy shit the strain on your inventory is rough when crafting a lot of different low-level stuff. (I actually really enjoy log completion though... I do it even after the achievements are done. Monkey brain likes checking things off.) 8:34 - "because I'm too lazy in most cases to gather the items myself" - that's good! People talk like farming everything yourself is "efficient" - but man, if you spend 15 minutes gathering a few hundred dirt cheap items in the world, when you could've just spent 8k to get them on the market board, there's nothing efficient about that! Unless you put zero value on your own time and effort, the MB often *is* the most efficient way to go. (Of course, some people just LIKE to get their own mats, which is fair.) 9:08 - man, I'm not going to complain about the hordes of naked people in Limsa any more. Seeing it that dead just looks wrong. 12:55 - maybe they should add femroes to universalis

Thank you for theses videos... You are a true inspiration to achievement hunting! Thank you Also, I'm on Ultros and these are the norm for us. Supprised you didn't see the 'dead' tank in front of the market alley. And I too remember the Jades

You have one of the most unique and baffling UI setups I've ever seen and I just want to say I'm impressed.

It's my favorite video series to watch at the end of the week!

I just combine the "Make items X times" and the "Make quality items X times" into one task, there's a specific action for crafting called delicate synthesis which allows you to craft an item every time with HQ. One button press.

This is a good start for the actual crafting grind: All the Ishgard Restoration achievements. Good luck! Also, if you dont gather the mats for all the achievements, this is one that's gonna cost you. On the bright side youll get a ton of scrips to make money.

Specific crafting notes for Alchemist: 1. Orchestrion rolls do not count toward log completion because they're master recipes. 2. There are NOT enough level-based recipes in the normal 1-90 logs to complete "I Made That: Alchemist VI." 3. To complete the achievement, you need to make Ornaments (mostly corsages) which are found under Special Recipes > Other > Ornaments (1/2). You don't need to make ALL of the ornaments, but need to make about 70 of them. Stockpile Bear Fat and various waters, and shop around for the flowers to find the best deals - most are cheap, but some are randomly expensive.

Ok Cider, you've just changed my life with "hide completed recipes" and I've been playing this damn game since 1.0! I need to press more things just to see what they do.

Somewhere out there, there's a sweaty dude who watches the FFXIV market board religiously thinking, "Holy shit I need to get into the Trillium Bulb game, these babies are selling like hot cakes"

I recently finished the Hand of creation title and boy was it a grind forgot to add this but it was many millions for the title

As someone that's also working through crafting achievements, yeah, it was probably one of those that were the most expensive for me too

This was so funny. I watched while gathering and looking at what I needed to start with. Thanks for putting this out.

Your videos have kinda inspired me to start working on achievements for fun! I've been chipping at the crafting ones first since I had already been doing stuff for that anyway :)

The quiet "TREMBLE!" every time you bought something had me wheezing with laughter and also relatable fear.

As someone who makes a large portion of my money selling shards, I salute you and others like you.

"Materiel" (with an E) refers to equipment and supplies for a military-type operation. "Materials" (with an A) are just generic stuff. That's why the two tabs in the GC.

Fellow achievement hunter here ! Crafting does take a lot of time but auto-crafting it will take you even longer ! -76 800 crats from the thumbnail isnt exactly right since you have to craft 10 000 HQ items per crafters which means 80 000 crafts for all 8 of them at minimum. -"Craft x amount of time" is less painful if you combine it with "Crafting log" which can go up to 800/1000 for certain job/expansions if you count gatherings/crafting your own materials (Goldsmith works good in that way) -Working towards 10 000 HQ on one job is painful so it feels best to do it actively while doing the two other kind of achievement listed above, even after doing all of these with as much HQ possible (mats + the craft itself) can get you up to 9 000/10 000 and every non-HQ auto-craft done for "Craft x amount of time" will recquire you to come back later to craft again but HQ (usually the lvl 1 receipe thousands of times) - So that makes 80 000 in a perfect world but if we count relic tool stuffs and firmament we can easily add another 1 000 per job which leads to 88 000 not counting non-HQ crafts ! -Crating log doesnt count expert receipes (including orchestrion rolls) but it counts furnitures and most importantly the "other" tab which have the FLOWERS EQUIPMENT for ALC and there are hundreds of them, that's why there is 700 logs for ALC

I'm doing this on a self sufficient account (no marketboard, trading), and just gathering all the shards needed for the 41-50 crafts will take roughly 110 hours, if I'm focused, closer to 125 if I'm distracted. The bright side is that the gathering Luminary achievements are completely passive and are 100% efficient.

Fun fact about the ARR relic tools, once you get one of them, you can get ALL of them from the Calamity Salvager. Since they're all linked to the same achievement and Calamity just checks achievements to know what you've unlocked, he assumes you have all of them. So if you wanted to use them for glams or whatever you can! My achievements for the week: - 100 unique Carpenter leves and 100 total tradecraft leves - 270 Triple Triad cards collected and 92 unique NPCs beaten - Level 80 Blue Mage, Paladin, and the achievements for omni-80 on all DoW and all combat jobs - Level 90 Fisher and the achievement for omni-90 gatherers - 400 unique fish caught - HW Sightseeing Log done (2 achievements - 500 total A-ranks killed - 150 Deliveries to Ehll Tou, finally time to move on to someone else

Crafting the Alchemist Lv60 recipe Hakutaku Eye Cluster (for the proof) cost me upwards of 4 million for the five various (Type) Hakutaku Eye components. Since by Zeus there was no way I was going to even bother with the RNG layered on top of RNG that is happy bunny chests in Eureka.

Seeing "Child Labor" being the only quest tracked during this vid is EXCEPTIONAL

As a Gilgamesh native, stuff here is notoriously expensive, it's normal to see people hop to another server or DC to buy and then resell on Greg.

good video as always, cant wait for the triple trial/ gold saucer chapter.

I get more excited for these videos then most other forms of entertainment in my week.

I don't even play FF14, but that patented Cider Spider voice and sense of humor made watching a 30-minute video about crafting items quite a bit of fun. Thanks for a series I look forward to watching every weekend.

Your achievement vids are always a nice way to start my day off during work when i see them

An excellent qol features would be the ability to see where a given vendor actually *is* because a lot of these are in really stupid locations and if they're not going to consolidate them like they *should* into main city vendors they could at least make it clear if I gotta haul out to Southern Thanalan for something with a 50x mark-up on the market board.

12:00 Jenova has a dedicated dancing catgirl in the main city of whatever current expansion is. Her name is Mint Dew, currently she is in Sharlayan, you can find her there pretty much 24/7

I've been excited to see you start grinding the DOH/DOL achievements. The Diadem and Skybuilder ones. Woof. My friend is a Saint of the Firmament, got second place (first place was either botting or a multiple-people-using-one-account situation because they were online basically 24 hours a day), and the Pteranodon achievements were starting to break her lmao

I can't believe I'm watching a crafting spam video right now. But at the same time, I'm watching Cider's inventory no longer be a mess for a time lol

I appreciate that the quest "Child Labor" is in progress during the beginning of this crafting video LOL

Hope the devs are watching this, I am now expecting a Marketboard in the next raid series. *Edit: Hot damn, and a max level guide for crafting lower level stuff as well! This video just keeps on giving :D

I was totally waiting for Charity to start tackling the crafting wall and am not disappointed. Can't wait to one day see her on a tiny pterodactyl. And talk about a rare instance of no Tank Program on Ultros.

It's funny, I just started doing the gathering achievement grind, so this video acted as inspiration. :)

@8:10 I don't recall exactly how much but a few million toward Eureka stuff, to get all the special Actions unlocked so I could begin making the Eureka armor.

Most amount I've spent was in fact on the crafting log because not only do you need to do the regular crafted items but you also need to do all the furniture, and all the flower stuff that alchemist makes. There's a lot of special furniture that needs materials from airships, submarines, Eureka, retainer ventures, tribe quests, maps, and most notably a whole lot of stuff from Coils. Because the Coils crafting items are classified as "monster drops" instead of regular loot it means you either have to do Coils synched or spend literal millions on marketboard. The Hakutaku eyes from Eureka are also stupidly expensive. Thankfully for HW onwards a lot of the more annoying stuff got moved to master recipes, so you don't need to worry about it. That's why those orchestra rolls didn't count, master recipes, tribe quests, ishgard restoration recipes, custom deliveries, dyes, side stuff like that doesn't get the check of completion so doesn't need to be done for achievements. Don't need to grind every extreme dozens of time for crafting materials.

I'm planning to go for the 'Of The Golden Ladle' title by making Rolanberry Cheese. It's made with 1 rolanberry and 2 night milk. The night milk can be bought from the sahagin for 84 gil each while the rolanberry can be harvested with botany at lvl 45 nodes near Bronze Lake thus making it also useful for grinding out the lvl 41-50 botany achievement. Rolanberry Cheese can be turned in via levequests so it might also potentially earn profit in the end. The levequests themselves can reward you with fire shards so it would be best to craft the items in batches rather than doing all of them at once since the recipe needs fire shards.

HEY! what's wrong with Primal?

i love that even with a very boring and uninteresting set of achievs you manage to make it entertaining and heck i even learned some stuff about the first iteration of doh relics! my current little hobby is ocean fishing so i can't wait to see you tackle that too 😏

"Our last hope is Primal, and those are words you never want to say." As someone who is on Ultros, we're not as bad as you think. 12:15 I TOLD YOU.

Lucis tools my beloved... I did all of those back on the free trial in ARR, so had to gather/craft everything myself with arr level stats. Genuinely had a good time doing it! Also the ALC tool's an unfortunate pick but the Lucis tools are comically oversized, they're so much larger than others. Might not scale as well for a Lalafell tho... About the crafting log achievements, I worked on those at the same time I worked on the unique levequests achievements, so when I did a tier of a levequest, I also did that tier of crafting recipes, so I was focused on the same relative set of materials. I've got 6/8 of the crafting log achievements, but CRP and ALC don't have enough recipes in the regular crafting log to complete the achievements, you have to craft furniture too to get those. So I'm putting them off to see how many recipes Dawntrail gives to each. Oh yeah also expert recipes don't count for completion, which you clearly figured out. I recommend against doing the shb achievements the way you were, you'll get them by doing ishgard restoration achievements, skybuilder tools, and resplendant tools anyway. Similarly the endwalker ones from splenderous tools. I'm very stingy about spending money so I can't say I've spent much on achievements at all, I think I bought a bunch of logs to get a CRP crafting achievement at some point? Doesn't matter. Also personal achievement progress from this week, I cleared TEA! Wahoo!

looking forward to the Deep dungeon Achivements

Carpenter and alchemist crafter log. After doing all the normal crafts I was left with the furntiure and I could not be arsed to gather any more mats. I also bought all the hakutaku eyes to craft the cluster. Cant remember how much they cost, but was a few mil.

The most gil I've spent on an achievement... I technically bought the six items for the extra Eureka magia boards (stuff like Skoll's claw) prior to doing Baldesion Arsenal, or bought Runner's Secrets for Augmented Bozjan gear prior to doing DR Savage, but those were honestly optional. I think the stuff for the magia boards was technically cheaper since I already had earned two items (sadly just the two cheapest ones). Otherwise, while not technically an achievement in-game, I did work on crafting all items that'd give a checkmark in the crafting log. This excludes most of the items in the Master books but it does include furniture. Certain items drop from the synced Coils of Bahamut raids, and are used to make Allagan-looking furniture. I was doing this prior to data center travel and unsurprisingly, no one in Crystal runs synced Coils of Bahamut in PF, so I wasted gil of my own to buy the Coils mat to get four or five items crafted. Two ADS Plating for like 5mil each, two White Raven Armor Fragments for a mil or so each, and somewhere over 5mil for an ADS Illuminant. Painful.

As someone who is doing an alt on Maduin, it's so difficult to get duty matchups that I've had to travel to Balmung just to get bits of the MSQ done.

Big fan of the series, keep it up❤ For the 3000 41-50 Crafts achievement you can go for Magitek Repair Materials and turn a nice profit out of crafting them all since submarine owners use a LOT of them for their workshop!

I probably spent near 7 million to work through Eureka with the fragments/red coat/kirin gear. All for the relic, achievements, and the shiny armor for two dye channels

Welcome to my special hell of crafting achievos, good luck and godsspead

What a strange coincidence. I just started filling out my crafting logs this week.

So, we were the Jades. Now just the Viera(FATED). So cool seeing us in the video!

I have a character that I started with friends and since they took a while to actually get in to the game, I got MIN to 60 (thinking that the DNC quest only needed any 60 job like the wikis said (it needs DoW or DoM)) and then SMN to 50 followed by RDM to 60 to unlock DNC, then because they were still taking their time I started crafting with the other friends who were actually playing those characters, then we decided to get the 50 endgame gear using only ARR stuff, then after they stopped I kinda just kept going and got all my ARR mastercraft books, Lucis tools, Atma relics (still working on the later stages), and finished Feast of Famine while still not leaving ARR. Getting those books and Lucis tools without scrips is a nightmare.

I haven't played in a while because of life being busy, but I'm excited to start wrapping up achievments for the crafting titles I'm hunting

12:00 where you talk about the AFK catgirls reminds me of my home server (Chaos, Spriggan) where we have a guy named Exotic Dancer who has all jobs maxed and has been doing nothing but Gold Dance in Old Gidania at the Shaded Bower for the entire 4 years that i have played the game. (besides probably catching up on MSQ?? idek) He never changes spots, never chats, is always AFK, has had the same glam ever since i first saw him. Absolute menace.

"So, this world is out of kudzu" is ironically hilarious considering that stuff grows crazy fast and is hard to actually permanently remove.

As a Famfrit native, Fated replaced the Jades pretty quickly after the Jades disappeared. Heard the Jades came under fire for talking to some minors or something and dipped. 🤷‍♀ All I know is that Famfrit Limsa is something else. Haven't quite been to another world's Limsa that hits the same and Famfrit's.

Some recipes don't count towards the "craft X amount of unique recipes", notably mastercraft recipes (such as the orchestrion rolls you crafted in this video). Look for the little check mark on the item icon in the crafting tab and if you see the check mark then you know that most items in this tab count towards that achievement. On top of my head I know levelling items and housing structures/furnishing are included.

12:01 thank you for Levi's top afk'r doing the manderville in the background.

That "hide completed recipes" button blew my mind :O

I've been slowly trying to get crafting achievements as well, and I know the answer to your question at 23:50 . Unique recipes only count if they're a leveling or a housing recipe. so lvling is all things in the leveling tab, and housing consists of all recipes under the housing tab in special recipes that doesn't have stars next to it. Some crafting jobs it's no big deal at all, and some jobs it's... ugh. Just to help you out in your crafting future! :)

Over on Odin the AFK alpha is a Lominsan Anchovy, who is occasionally accompanied by a very tall Vierra (femroe wearing bunny ears)