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@SJ-tq8xt
@SJ-tq8xt 6 месяцев назад
US spreading democracy to China 😂😂😂😂. Maybe the US corporations just wanted to make stuff cheaper so they could keep more profits?
@JamesHoffa420
@JamesHoffa420 6 месяцев назад
Yeah he mentions that in the video too smartass
@stefanomaurino8201
@stefanomaurino8201 6 месяцев назад
The US doesn’t help China, on the contrary China is helping the US billionaire/wall street/oligarch (whatever the name) to make more money though Chinese cheap labor and effective manufacturing ecosystem. During this process, China gets technological transfer and know-how. China is actually democratic, just not liberal democracy. China is democratic because democracy means the government gives what the people need. If China isn’t democratic, how can they achieve high growth? Only when the needs of the people are fulfilled will the economy grow.
@stanktaint15
@stanktaint15 6 месяцев назад
And now China dictates what those companies can and can't do or they'll lose their labor 😂
@jamestomaszkiewicz7947
@jamestomaszkiewicz7947 6 месяцев назад
Please read about the sino-Soviet split.
@billl4977
@billl4977 6 месяцев назад
No fan of big corporations, but let’s face it not many people in this country want those jobs. Factories in New England have multiple help wanted signs out, and they get nothing but lazy people coming in or nobody at all
@bassinblue
@bassinblue 6 месяцев назад
This dude getting high off cat shit. America 'spreading democracy' is the funniest shit I've heard all week.
@RockoRocko-rz7kx
@RockoRocko-rz7kx 6 месяцев назад
There was an attempt but it didnt obviously work. It’s actually true what he is saying.
@jackhaugh
@jackhaugh 6 месяцев назад
How so?
@bassinblue
@bassinblue 6 месяцев назад
@@jackhaughYou have to be seriously naive, to think America 'spreads democracy'. Anyone who says that, clearly has done zero research from a broader perspective. America is an undercover empire propping regimes and funding militia groups to perform coups and destabilise nations that don't surrender to the western agenda (the dollar). You have no leaders, as they only have a shelf life of 4-8 years paving the way for the next one. Your 'democracy' is an illusion to satisfy the masses, whilst the true owners of America can execute their agendas, diving people as much as possible so not to be aware and remove the tyrannical entities. Wherever America goes, they leave behind paid members in politics and military bases. Anyone who doesn't confirm to these ideas, is labelled as a 'dictator' or 'terrorist'.
@Justanutherwon
@Justanutherwon 6 месяцев назад
I think you may be the one with toxoplasmosis. The U.S. has went to multiple wars under the guise of "spreading democracy. "
@Gianni523
@Gianni523 5 месяцев назад
​​@@jackhaughWhat classifies as spreading democracy? Toppling governments and leaving the nation in ruin, killing civilian women men and children? Like the 1 million dead civilians as a result of the illegal illegitimate immoral Iraq invasion and occupation committed by the U.S., U.K. Coalition forces? Please.
@danmor2349
@danmor2349 4 месяца назад
I sometimes think Americans are too used to their arrogance - "oh it's a failure cause we have to play by their rules, and we want everyone to play by our rules" .... Is essentially what he's bitching about. This is the catastrophe : that America may not be able to bully everyone
@robincobb8611
@robincobb8611 Месяц назад
Facts!
@FRDOMFGTHR
@FRDOMFGTHR 6 месяцев назад
Klaus’ father was Eugene Schwab who ran the Escher Wyss Factory making heavy water for nazi nukes. EW won an award for being a “model nazi company”
@dreamshots_PIB
@dreamshots_PIB 6 месяцев назад
Didn't know about "escher wyss" and i'm born in zurich… there is a place called "escher wyss platz" (platz = plaza) still to this day, just in plain sight… didn't know this untill now and i'm 31 yo… THAT IS SO SICKENING 😤 I wonder how zurich got away with keeping or even naming that plaza, also how can the citizens who know about this life with it ?! Swiss people are ignorant f's the most of the time anyway but this is hardcore…
@DeMelly__
@DeMelly__ 6 месяцев назад
@@dreamshots_PIBexplain in Fortnite terms
@dingus6317
@dingus6317 6 месяцев назад
@@DeMelly__Tilted Towers had a hidden Thanos memorial!
@dreamshots_PIB
@dreamshots_PIB 6 месяцев назад
@@DeMelly__ i'm 31 years old… i once downloaded fortnite onto my iphone 8 back in 2017, instantly regreted it and deleted it after 15minutes, then i went back to playing pubg 😅 also i don't play video games anymore at all… except the gta remasters from netflix just for the nostalgia 😂 But i try it for you and i guess it's really simple: battle royale is the real world, and we, the small poor people are fighting against each other while the rich, poweful, hidden (they even aren't on the fortnite map) elites are laughing their a… off bc we are doing this and the are getting richer and richer from each battle wo go through with alot of suffering… i know this is not in relation of my comment (the answer above is on point i guess) but it described the whole plot we are in right now with schwab as the leader of this hidden elite
@spinsall87
@spinsall87 6 месяцев назад
If that bothers you morally.. Read Anne Jacobsens book on operation paperclip. The US; after the war, justified the scare of the Soviets and their thermonuclear war; to give citizenship to highly coveted war criminal nazis dr and scientists to work in the dept of energy and nasa. Hell, heres a big slap in the face as well. Kurt Debus. The Debus award name sake. Worked in the Kennedy space center. His work developing V2 rockets for the Germans got him notoriety. The backstory to that, himself and Werhner von Braun were developing these rockets in Germany in caves with use of slave labor from concentration camps. Where the slaves exchanged avoiding the gas chambers to go to work instead. And they literally worked them to death. Railroad traks went in one side of the cave and rockets and bodies came out the other side. One of Nazis responsible for the development and discovery of Sarin gas. Which the name itself is made up of a Letter from each chemist name. A.. for Otto Ambros. AMBROS would later be a leading chair in the US Dept of Energy. Ambros was the head of operation of a synthetic rubber factory in south Aushwitz-Monowitz known as Buna rubber. A manufacturing facility known for its brutality of hanging "workers" who were slow and or refused to work to set an example of what will happen to others who follow in their shoes. Think about that.. US thought it would be a better option that they get these favored and coveted Nazi scientists and dr to come to the US so the Soviets wouldn't get them. Despite some 1600 of them. A majority of them were legit convicted war criminals in the Nuremberg trials for human experiments on Jews, and deaths of Jews.
@ianLord77
@ianLord77 5 месяцев назад
I have a great deal of suspicion and mistrust when I hear someone talk about "spreading democracy". Based on our track record, I think it is safe to say that we ain't exactly the party that could claim any reasonable level of success in that department.
@robertwilson214
@robertwilson214 5 месяцев назад
'spreading democracy' consists mainly of...not speading democracy, looting raw materials with coups and the imf.
@danmor2349
@danmor2349 4 месяца назад
Yeah, he's just complaining about not being able to bully the world like how they once were.
@microfarming8583
@microfarming8583 4 месяца назад
Well said and the world bank and suspect intelligence agency hedge funds run by a front man. China might do things on their terms, but their terms are much more favourable than US and the wests. You only have to look at what we did to Bolivia a few years ago when china offered better deals so we staged a coup and overthrew the government and Elon Musk boasted about it!!!
@vlada
@vlada 6 месяцев назад
The plan? "Lets send all our manufacturing jobs to a place where labor costs are minimal and we can make more profits."
@colindooley4422
@colindooley4422 6 месяцев назад
because americans want cheap things more than they want good jobs.
@bombin1181
@bombin1181 6 месяцев назад
Trillions were stolen from the middle class and used to prop up china. Muh "you wouldn't pay 2k for an iphone", yes, yes we would - those jobs would be still in the U.S. and that money would be circulating within the U.S. economy. Biggest scam of the 21st century
@Poopopotamusgaming
@Poopopotamusgaming 6 месяцев назад
And cheaper products for you
@SteveFrench_420
@SteveFrench_420 6 месяцев назад
And avoid Western taxes
@SteveFrench_420
@SteveFrench_420 6 месяцев назад
​@@Poopopotamusgamingcheaper in price and quality
@ShadowOfTheMetroid
@ShadowOfTheMetroid 5 месяцев назад
"Spreading democracy" is he for real??
@NitoKuvell
@NitoKuvell 4 месяца назад
Another arrogant bloke talking about what he knows nothing
@BigTrees4ever
@BigTrees4ever 6 месяцев назад
What he’s saying about China’s economic strategies being unfair, anyone who’s read Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man knows that they got those strategies from the US of A.
@joebarrett5805
@joebarrett5805 6 месяцев назад
Great book
@PrinceIsot
@PrinceIsot 6 месяцев назад
Go live there commie
@LoupDeFer-p9v
@LoupDeFer-p9v 6 месяцев назад
Are you serious ? You think U.S. are the first empire that developed this strategies ? China got U.S. beat by few mileniums , why you think Mongols took it over ?
@_Jack_Miller
@_Jack_Miller 6 месяцев назад
US of A 🇺🇸 🏆
@PrinceIsot
@PrinceIsot 6 месяцев назад
Go live there commie
@Chatham
@Chatham 6 месяцев назад
I lived in China for a while. Communism mixed with capitalism works very well for them 💯 750 million people lifted from poverty to the middle class! Pros and cons, but the ccp has a really good government model with no nepotism
@johnmartin8039
@johnmartin8039 6 месяцев назад
The reduction in poverty has nothing to do with them being communist or it being mixed with capitalism. They're economically capitalists and socially communists.
@zachhoward9099
@zachhoward9099 5 месяцев назад
There’s no way with only CCP membership and whole families being Party members that there isn’t nepotism
@kaiserxblue
@kaiserxblue 5 месяцев назад
@@johnmartin8039 It quality of life improvement, isn't that what all countries try to do? Doesn't the whole world wants their people to have a better quelity of life for their citizens? So what he's saying it's correct.
@vitalymaliarov696
@vitalymaliarov696 6 месяцев назад
Lol, I love how James still cares about "spreading democracy"
@JuanPimentel__
@JuanPimentel__ 6 месяцев назад
This guy still thinks America is perfect.
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc 6 месяцев назад
Same 💩 for over 100 years and people still believe it.
@Hboybatman
@Hboybatman 6 месяцев назад
90% of people that Joe has on his podcast related to politics are all just stooges for the liberal American empire. It's shameless.
@FloppyxPancake
@FloppyxPancake 6 месяцев назад
He's playing too much helldivers
@ItsBluecheeseWithWingsOrGo_
@ItsBluecheeseWithWingsOrGo_ 6 месяцев назад
Better than spreading whatever that bullshit flag in your profile pic does
@Hoosier765
@Hoosier765 6 месяцев назад
The middle class was too powerful. Wall street does not share power.
@johnmartin8039
@johnmartin8039 6 месяцев назад
What does that even mean?
@dmax5678
@dmax5678 4 месяца назад
@@johnmartin8039 It means a population of intelligent and wealthy people can challenge existing monopolies. However, if you destroy their livelihoods, poison their food supply, demoralize them, and make them hate each other, they will not challenge your monopolies, since they are too busy just trying to survive and fight each other.
@godofthisshit
@godofthisshit 4 месяца назад
@@dmax5678 Sounds like victim hood to me
@munaali840
@munaali840 4 месяца назад
they said that in the 60s and fought back late 60s/70s starting by assassinating the president and black leaders. Americans had more time on their hands and there were massive environmental, social and financial gains cutting in on profits and power
@IrishMeep
@IrishMeep 6 месяцев назад
Jamie sitting there thinking of HellDivers 2 every time he hears spreading democracy 😂
@giovanniamore7532
@giovanniamore7532 6 месяцев назад
" do i smell communism here..?!? " 😄👍
@luigitavarezklk07
@luigitavarezklk07 5 месяцев назад
Managed democracy 😂
@Hoosier765
@Hoosier765 6 месяцев назад
Americans "we need higher wages to afford these prices " Wall Street " best we can do is open the border"
@greg6162
@greg6162 6 месяцев назад
Wallstreet got lucky… everyone is asking Biden for favors and he’s playing Santa Claus for the elite’s, everyone gets a YES
@nolalove7054
@nolalove7054 6 месяцев назад
Probably why the borders are open, we can't compete with China' s manufacturing and cheap labor.
@Justanutherwon
@Justanutherwon 6 месяцев назад
Ken Griffin is one of the biggest financial terrorist the world has ever known. He makes Bernie Madoff look like high schooler mowing lawns during the summer.
@lfcbpro
@lfcbpro 6 месяцев назад
Americans - don't understand inflation, lol
@robertwilson214
@robertwilson214 5 месяцев назад
You owe South America and Africa trillions
@PianoHamsters
@PianoHamsters 6 месяцев назад
I love when people who act like they are “China Experts” can’t even pronounce Chinese words correctly 😂
@nazrulhussain2989
@nazrulhussain2989 6 месяцев назад
That's funny 😂🤣
@mikebelnap3079
@mikebelnap3079 6 месяцев назад
Please expound comrade
@Chatham
@Chatham 6 месяцев назад
Huge facts!!
@TheToxicTank
@TheToxicTank 6 месяцев назад
Makes perfect sense that English born speakers can not pronounce native Chinese words easily. When is the last time you heard a Chinese person say the word "look"?
@Skeletal33
@Skeletal33 6 месяцев назад
*We* made China a superpower by moving all manufacturing/industry there.
@logen6792
@logen6792 6 месяцев назад
What's wrong with China being a superpower??
@silys5253
@silys5253 6 месяцев назад
lol. China has been the biggest economy on the planet for 18 of the last 20 centuries. Wealth was extracted out of China through imperialism/colonialism. Think opium money that went into ivy league cities. US then tried to contain and exploit China. Entire globe is now turning against US - guess why. US terrorism across the globe.
@MrTheSmokinman
@MrTheSmokinman 6 месяцев назад
Also letting them buy land in America and manufacturing facilities. I've worked in dozens of factories in my life and everyone of them at some point will say "we need to clean up, we are having visitors on such and such day." Then its a bunch of Chinese dudes coming in checking out the place and a few times buying or investing in the factory. Then we get layoffs.
@NUGZo7
@NUGZo7 6 месяцев назад
💯
@NUGZo7
@NUGZo7 6 месяцев назад
💯​they own a SHITLOAD of our farmland surrounding military installations its NUTZ @MrTheSmokinman
@Razear
@Razear 6 месяцев назад
There's a book called _The Hundred-Year Marathon_ that talks about China's goal of overtaking the US as the global superpower. China is graduating over a million engineers a year and building hypersonic missiles while America's most pressing concern is about pronouns with a geriatric Alzheimer's patient steering the wheel.
@jerrywatt6813
@jerrywatt6813 6 месяцев назад
Yep 😊
@jimmielin1141
@jimmielin1141 4 месяца назад
A million engineers? Try 4 million in 2023
@donn.4766
@donn.4766 4 месяца назад
I always saw it this way. America exploited chinese cheap labor and lack of labor laws for decades so the corporations can profit and consumers can get things for cheap. Then china learned the game and became successful and now we’re crying “not fair!” Why weren’t we all against human rights when we were exploiting their labor? We are just mad they are becoming powerful and are trying all kinds of ways to undermine that.
@neuberknight575
@neuberknight575 5 месяцев назад
They wrote the book on war, guys. You won’t beat them because you don’t even know you ARE them.
@action2news256
@action2news256 6 месяцев назад
Why in God's name would I listen to a man who just now figured out what geopolitical means
@Good.Glacier
@Good.Glacier 6 месяцев назад
My Wigga!🎉
@pin65371
@pin65371 6 месяцев назад
He also seemed to be confused about losing market cap vs losing money. He said Google lost $90 billion and said he didnt realize they had that much to lose. They dont. They lost market cap
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc 6 месяцев назад
He has no clue what the ECONOMIC models of capitalism and communism are.
@sai600
@sai600 4 месяца назад
joe rogan gives a lot of these people a platform in the name of being open minded
@joeyp1927
@joeyp1927 4 месяца назад
The idea that China puts countries in debt traps or otherwise makes them dependent is a myth that has been debunked by the economist Deborah Brautigam in a recent article for The Atlantic. She notes that, in fact, China often gets the short end of the stick when making deals with developing countries as China is so desperate for resources. Brautigam is no softie, either: she is a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) at Johns Hopkins who has studied African development since the late 1970s, and wrote a book on China's relationship with Africa titled, The Dragon's Gift: The Real Story of China in Africa.
@damiens6465
@damiens6465 5 месяцев назад
China saw the Soviet Union losing/ collapsing and decided to compete with US at our own game. Not because their nice, because their intelligent.
@willsmith5653
@willsmith5653 6 месяцев назад
Volume: 0% Knowledge intake: 1000%
@Vffhndsercchi
@Vffhndsercchi 6 месяцев назад
Ren
@alexeilindes7507
@alexeilindes7507 6 месяцев назад
Stimpy you idiot !!​@@Vffhndsercchi
@jkb462
@jkb462 6 месяцев назад
Imagine a country wanting the best for their people and wanting the best for their country. Just astonishing.
@sopranos45
@sopranos45 5 месяцев назад
If u think it's just that then ur a lost sheep smh 😢
@jkb462
@jkb462 5 месяцев назад
@@sopranos45 evidence?
@sopranos45
@sopranos45 5 месяцев назад
Evidence of what that China has a plan to rule the world? Google it you'll see plenty of information
@damiens6465
@damiens6465 5 месяцев назад
They didn’t become this because they care 🤣- superpowers fight and they’d rather not end up like the soviets
@Odith-t8s
@Odith-t8s 4 месяца назад
White men hate when others get more powerful. They get verrrrry insecure.
@patriciaburlow8469
@patriciaburlow8469 6 месяцев назад
I like the monkey at the beginning..
@garrettramirez428
@garrettramirez428 6 месяцев назад
It was all downhill after that.
@MultiSpur
@MultiSpur 6 месяцев назад
How dare China? Doesn't China knows that everybody have to play by American rules when they do business in China?
@lutoli636
@lutoli636 2 месяца назад
现在有些事情变了,我告诉你,A global war has begun, and although foreign media have been hiding the news, it is easy to know in China what chess game is being played in order to deal with the present, future world powers, China, Russia, Iran. You know, how many countries are attacking what you call number one, and how many attacks she's been subjected to, and she's afraid to say, bases, garrisons
@amjrpain919
@amjrpain919 6 месяцев назад
In our hubris, we erroneously assumed that China would prefer our "grand experiment" system of government to what they were far more accustomed to.
@jimmielin1141
@jimmielin1141 4 месяца назад
Most Chinese leaders studied in western countries and they see flaws of the “western democracy “ and they never bought the ideology that western countries tried to sell them. Just look at XI, the present leader of China, he studied in Ohio state university.
@jimmielin1141
@jimmielin1141 4 месяца назад
Furthermore, all those so called “China experts “ always wrong about China while barely any one of them stayed or studied in China or speaking Chinese language. After all they aren’t so “expert” if they don’t even speak the language.
@edwind5559
@edwind5559 6 месяцев назад
What i wanted to say is that I don't think the version of democracy we have now is not what the founding fathers set up. It was meant to be a republic. "And to the Republic for which it stands".
@contacthigh8571
@contacthigh8571 6 месяцев назад
We’re also pretty far from a nation under God
@Gianni523
@Gianni523 5 месяцев назад
​@@contacthigh8571Depends on who you're asking. Lots of people out here have money as their God, and entities like moloch + baal 🤷🏻‍♂️
@kyleyost1163
@kyleyost1163 5 месяцев назад
​@@contacthigh8571interesting how both the Constitution and Bill of Rights never actually mention God. They do, however, mention the separation of church and state...
@contacthigh8571
@contacthigh8571 5 месяцев назад
@@kyleyost1163 insufferable
@neko77025
@neko77025 6 месяцев назад
this guy is all over the place .. how can you understand him ...
@alexplummer6397
@alexplummer6397 5 месяцев назад
The unnatural fear of communism by American is just fascinating. The irony is that they ignore their country’s involvement in others similar to the Soviet union
@rosesoulis1840
@rosesoulis1840 5 месяцев назад
Un Natural fear of Communism.....you are beyond stupid
@ryell0913
@ryell0913 6 месяцев назад
Sounds working for me on mobile.
@Reg_The_Galah
@Reg_The_Galah 6 месяцев назад
It works for me 🥺
@zachhoward9099
@zachhoward9099 5 месяцев назад
No issue here either, idk what these comments about no audio are talking about
@TaylorSharkey
@TaylorSharkey 6 месяцев назад
This guest is off his rocker. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
@vibhor5015
@vibhor5015 6 месяцев назад
US spreading democracy to other countries, while people voting for two 80 year olds knowing that they'll not be in power. Where is the democracy? 😂😂
@mikebelnap3079
@mikebelnap3079 6 месяцев назад
Does anyone remember “those manufacturing jobs have went to China and they’re not coming back …….these workers will need to learn how to core” Anyone?
@zachhoward9099
@zachhoward9099 5 месяцев назад
Code you mean?
@PearlTheSpinster
@PearlTheSpinster 6 месяцев назад
Ive been saying this ish for years. Without china we pretty much have nothing. Hearing this really leans into that TikTok thing. How is the US going to try to force them to sell their company? TT is world wide, and I just feel like the US underestimated the power of another country again, especially one that makes pretty much every dam thing we own. They tried to hit china with all of these extra dam fees and rules and now look, every dam thing is expensive. If they really wanted to be effective in ruling a country like china, they would cap some of these prices. Theres no dam way a cell phone should cost thousands of dollars. I guess we shall see.
@WD00777
@WD00777 6 месяцев назад
Love seeing James on the podcast! Crazy how much of what’s been going on was called him before 2020.
@Luumuvaris
@Luumuvaris 4 месяца назад
It's always sort of shocking to hear someone that confident and not understand anything what he is talking about, nor not making much of connections between things, like why Cuba would suck. Or to think North Korea sucked, but apparently doesn't anymore.
@kyleyost1163
@kyleyost1163 5 месяцев назад
A global economy, especially a capitalist one, requires rich and poor countries. One for cheap manufacturing to sell for affordable prices to the privileged. However, now, everyone clamours when they realize their Nike shoes are made by 10-year-old Chinese children, or their Apple phones have cobalt mined from slave camps in the Congo. Mostly, first-world countries love to virtue-signal about how the world should change, while blissfully ignoring the conditions of which their consumerism is built upon. We create consoling ideas like recycling, where around 75% of what we put into blue bins is either put into landfills, burned as emissions or shipped to 3rd world countries (we pay for them to burn it off our carbon books). Currently, what matters most in the world this year is whether US voters put a decrepit, deceitful 81-year-old in office or a unfit, deceitful 77-year-old in office. Food for thought: "There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." - John Adams
@runswithtrees6173
@runswithtrees6173 6 месяцев назад
I love how bots always flood comments with the comment “no audio” lol
@shaunweddle1173
@shaunweddle1173 5 месяцев назад
Probably Made in China bots
@PaulVisionLee
@PaulVisionLee 6 месяцев назад
I remember having to order parts for my company about ten years ago. I wanted to order from America only but the cost difference was China was 80% cheaper. Good luck changing that lol
@wardy4903
@wardy4903 6 месяцев назад
You got your parts from slave labor
@cspdx11
@cspdx11 4 месяца назад
When the dollar crashes
@Geopoliticstoday2
@Geopoliticstoday2 6 месяцев назад
The plan started with Kissinger and Mao in the 50s.
@JoshSandhu
@JoshSandhu 5 месяцев назад
You make it seem like Mao and Kissinger are aligned in ideology, which is frankly absurd.
@Geopoliticstoday2
@Geopoliticstoday2 5 месяцев назад
@@JoshSandhu and you dont read enough. Kissinger and a few more....created the Chinese Skull n Bones and helped Mao create communist China by aiding him in a propaganda newspaper in the 50s.
@Geopoliticstoday2
@Geopoliticstoday2 5 месяцев назад
@@JoshSandhu dont you know about this experiment in eugenics?
@justamoroccandude2588
@justamoroccandude2588 4 месяца назад
Ideology is for the commen people Business is their Game ...​@@JoshSandhu
@theghettogentleman
@theghettogentleman 6 месяцев назад
Literally what’s been happening here in Jamaica for a good number of years now, and the intensity has been ramped up a lot recently.
@pantethine66
@pantethine66 5 месяцев назад
Irie mon
@stellarmella9557
@stellarmella9557 6 месяцев назад
its kinda funny that these so called "china experts" often assume that the governments of third world countries are somehow dumb, unsophisticated, and are often victims of either the eastern/ western bloc policies. You want to know why third world countries are much more receptive to chinese infrastructure investment? because they are much more "professional" and often are direct as to their business interests. The west however would often sell their political ideologies first. Remember, the "unsophisticated" government of Afghansitan and the local tribal/ religious power players milked the US taxpayer's money for 20 plus years without America gaining anything besides dead veterans and loss of billions of dollars. Now China has moved in and started developing infrastructure and industtries needed bby te Afghans without shedding any blood. The BRI is very successful in places like Africa and SE Asia, really helped the transportation of goods, thus increasing the robustness of the local economy. This guy is talking out of his ass. Might as well report this videos and the whole podcast as misinformation.
@andrewschuschu3499
@andrewschuschu3499 6 месяцев назад
Means of production- if you give it up, someone will control it for you. Then they’ll control you.
@TwistyThreeFifty
@TwistyThreeFifty 6 месяцев назад
This guy got his economics degree from Trump University
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc 6 месяцев назад
Anyone who talks about communism thinking is authoritarianism without exolaining the economic model is a m0r0n.
@nunyadambusiness6902
@nunyadambusiness6902 6 месяцев назад
Actually he got it from 1 that the traitor Beijing Biden supports... 😂🖕😂...
@sevensages5279
@sevensages5279 6 месяцев назад
he got all D's for DIPSH***IT! 😂😂😂
@fongponto
@fongponto 4 месяца назад
The guy personifies the average adolescent us perspective on reality
@slammajamma5435
@slammajamma5435 6 месяцев назад
You can blame others, however; If you want answers look 👀 in the mirror. Monopolistic-capitalism is a criminal hierarchy. The few benefit at the cost of the many. It’s not complicated and you, we, us, have been lied to in order to monopolize power and wealth. Either you are for the Workers or you are for inequality, imperialism/capitalism. Choose!
@johnmartin8039
@johnmartin8039 6 месяцев назад
It's not complicated followed and preceeded by complete meaningless nonsense
@zardoz7900
@zardoz7900 5 месяцев назад
So they not only gambled away your pension but they used that money against you via ESG
@rakeshs3761
@rakeshs3761 5 месяцев назад
The „ expert „ doesn’t know much . China - India road 😂
@palmsun
@palmsun 6 месяцев назад
Who ever runs this channel needs to step it up. There were so many good nuggets from this episode that need their own clips, but this is one of the more important ones for sure.
@David_10157
@David_10157 6 месяцев назад
It's not 4D chess. Many historians and other academics have stated that the Cold War itself is what stabilized the world otherwise, there would have been another World War. In other words, the lack of a formidable enemy leads to World War. It's no different now, but instead of U.S.S.R, we have China.
@clownworldtimes6434
@clownworldtimes6434 6 месяцев назад
Yep, there hasn’t been a war between any major world powers since the end of WWII
@greg6162
@greg6162 6 месяцев назад
More like China has US… they’re officially the superpower of the world as of now. I mean look at us? How can you look at Biden and think the US is still the same superpower it was. I mean we’re being invaded by illegals… imagine if they were soldiers?! We’ve never been weaker as a country. All the left cares about is expanding the LGBTQ community. They’re literally indoctrinating and recruiting faster than the US military. We can’t handle Mexican’s and South America invading us… imagine if a country with a strong masculine military decided to invade?! They would pound our asses through Mexico
@godofthisshit
@godofthisshit 4 месяца назад
@David_10157 So Germany wasn't formidable leading up to WW2?
@samuelanimaddo7611
@samuelanimaddo7611 5 месяцев назад
This guy has no idea what he is talking about, just regurgitating Viveks talking points
@stevenjlindgren1970
@stevenjlindgren1970 6 месяцев назад
More of THIS. We need more rational conversation as well as public education on these subjects
@dontevntrip8627
@dontevntrip8627 5 месяцев назад
You talk billions when the United States printed Trillions. At the end China, Us, the entire world still sufferers from people living in poverty for no reason. Basic needs should have been given and met for every human to at least try to prosper some never will be the opportunity should of been there. No one’s country doesn’t have this issue , it’s time for the world to come together and fight against poverty of the masses, it would fix so much that’s wrong with this planet.
@Yes_Im_Adarsh
@Yes_Im_Adarsh 27 дней назад
Sometimes I think a lot about Vivek , he came out of nowhere, gain so much popularity, captured so much mind space & just vanished, vanished, What's the game…
@dormantlogos7814
@dormantlogos7814 3 месяца назад
Fun fact: Xi Jinping, the Xi is pronounced as “She”, not “Ji”. And Huawei, is pronounced as “Hwa Way”, the H not silent. Please stop pronouncing them wrong, this is not a preference thing, it’s not about how you prefer to say it.
@UnitedAfrica-uw9ct
@UnitedAfrica-uw9ct 4 месяца назад
I am from Africa i will choose China over the West...trust me
@mave2k
@mave2k 6 месяцев назад
The goal is to spread democracy? This is the dumbest take I've ever heard.
@Justanutherwon
@Justanutherwon 6 месяцев назад
You have a smooth brain. There was a LOT in that interview that went way above your head. If this was your reaction, you should probably stop commenting moving forward. Let's try and make AI a little less retarded.
@franciskeikeire3662
@franciskeikeire3662 4 месяца назад
China's model worked well for their people. Similar population size next door in the so called largest democracy, and look at the different rates of transformation in both countries.
@jays5478
@jays5478 5 месяцев назад
See Ken Griffin. Bernie Madoff on steroids.
@Deskooled
@Deskooled 6 месяцев назад
I read The Coming Collapse of China by Gordon Chang 20 years ago. He predicted everything that's now happening in China and he got so much crap for it. That deserves more respect.
@robwindsor6373
@robwindsor6373 6 месяцев назад
Joe's getting a dose of reality and the Gospels. Awesome.
@polo-kf6yh
@polo-kf6yh 4 месяца назад
But trade in USA, isn't there a rule too.. What is that? Democracy? How democratic is America?
@geoffreyroberts7092
@geoffreyroberts7092 5 месяцев назад
Yet nobody still knows what Communism is truly.
@jimmielin1141
@jimmielin1141 4 месяца назад
There a book of Marxism I don’t know if you can buy it from Amazon or not. The book already predicted the end periods of capitalism and how globalization is being implemented. I studied some of it when I was in China. Kinda hard just to explain it because it describes a whole different political system than the capitalism. So yeah the waste worlds rant about how socialism and communism is evil is because the western countries are fear mongering its people so they will hate it.
@louielogicsxxx3669
@louielogicsxxx3669 6 месяцев назад
“Spreading Democracy”……this is the dumbest conversation I’ve ever heard.
@OgollaJr
@OgollaJr 4 месяца назад
Talking about spreading democracy to China when even UK don't have democracy
@TheMoonDejesus
@TheMoonDejesus 5 месяцев назад
Joe is to far down this path to still be so uninformed about the world and how to vet guests.
@234wq
@234wq 5 месяцев назад
China made your headphones, that mic, your t-shirt, that red curtain. You have to make your tin foil hat yourself.
@theblackgods4699
@theblackgods4699 6 месяцев назад
Joe rogan and random guy have an idiot contest
@greg6162
@greg6162 6 месяцев назад
Says the guy who doesn’t understand… just ask what they’re talking about if you don’t know???
@fromthefrunchroom
@fromthefrunchroom 6 месяцев назад
Who woulda thunk that we need to invest in infrastructure
@UnitedAfrica-uw9ct
@UnitedAfrica-uw9ct 4 месяца назад
Where did you get this guy Joe ? , he says we went to China to build CHINA , NO the Chinese built China , do not forget millions of Chinese workers who worked in factories for peanuts for decades , while investing their income into US stocks and Bonds , they became rich by work and investing and education....
@imveryhungry112
@imveryhungry112 6 месяцев назад
I really think them trying to imprison trump and strip his assets right before the election makes us look horrible abroad.
@dan15000
@dan15000 6 месяцев назад
The belt and road initiative has almost all but ended now, it was too costly for them
@MH-hl4ug
@MH-hl4ug 6 месяцев назад
Bro your just repeating what us media says. Go to check the belt and road website and see the progress of the projects yourself before laying out stupid comments like these
@dingleberry4234
@dingleberry4234 5 месяцев назад
Ehhh idk about that
@Odith-t8s
@Odith-t8s 4 месяца назад
​@@MH-hl4ughe's a white boi coper
@poisonblood696
@poisonblood696 6 месяцев назад
Capitalism and corporations are communism! Let me give you a crackhead theory to explain how they are not completely opposing philosophies...
@SixStringsAndBeyond
@SixStringsAndBeyond 6 месяцев назад
Tell me you use cocaine without telling me ...😅
@MrA5htaroth
@MrA5htaroth 4 месяца назад
Oh, and "democracy" is a red herring. There are autocratic regimes that rule in the interest of their nation and are responsive to need, and there are democratic regimes that rule in the interest of wealthy international interests and could not give two sh1ts about the people that vote them in. I am a UK citizen living in China, in case you wonder where this insight comes from.
@logen6792
@logen6792 6 месяцев назад
"spreading democracy".... Libya is a victim of that🙌
@RealByteSize
@RealByteSize 4 месяца назад
0:54 kinds sounds like the US LOL
@lfcbpro
@lfcbpro 6 месяцев назад
Who said democracy is good? Who said capitalism is good? Are there any democratic/capitalist countries that take care of their poor or sick? The whole concept of capitalism is someone makes money while someone loses money. How is that a good idea? The whole idea of democracy is that nothing actually gets done, especially in the US.
@theghettogentleman
@theghettogentleman 6 месяцев назад
I thought we’d gotten past the point of using Reuters for fact-checking by now. Sigh…
@jayhay1237
@jayhay1237 6 месяцев назад
Socialism and communism depends on optimism. "this time is gonna be different! Damn, well this time is gonna be different! Damn, well, this time is gonna be different..."
@nenasiek
@nenasiek 4 месяца назад
Hello from a nordic country😊
@cyberiadiscordia389
@cyberiadiscordia389 6 месяцев назад
Succinct clip of what goes on in the average boomer libertarian's headspace.
@williamhensley8698
@williamhensley8698 5 месяцев назад
China's current model is Fascism. They shifted one space to the right and landed on Fascism.
@ausgepicht
@ausgepicht 4 месяца назад
Not sure who this guy is, but he uses a LOT of words to say little or nothing. Seems like he was trying REALLY hard to look smart or insightful as opposed to just being in a conversation.
@rdman86
@rdman86 6 месяцев назад
This guy loves to make sure his voice wins
@CaliSpecial
@CaliSpecial 6 месяцев назад
They learned this from the US
@oscg912
@oscg912 6 месяцев назад
Just when you thought he was quite smart and then you realise he is just reciting an old movie plot…
@bmannhamps481
@bmannhamps481 2 месяца назад
This guy follows the Wall Street Journal handbook to a T
@markmack2746
@markmack2746 6 месяцев назад
I've been learning about the belton rd initiative for years. Titus frost has been yelling about it forever.
@christors
@christors 6 месяцев назад
MADE IN THE USA MEANS SOMTHING, BUY AMERICAN........ spending your dollars in the country keeps them in the country, ONCE THEY LEAVE THE WEALTH LEAVES WITH THEM-
@samclark3370
@samclark3370 6 месяцев назад
The wealth stays with the wealthy if you buy in the USA or not. Quit acting like trickle down economics work.
@johnmartin8039
@johnmartin8039 6 месяцев назад
That's not how that works
@johnmartin8039
@johnmartin8039 6 месяцев назад
​@@samclark3370that's also not how things work.
@Nomad612
@Nomad612 4 месяца назад
I can’t honestly blame on the us government for thinking china in the end will become democracy because the same strategy worked on Japan and South Korean.
@chatter4427
@chatter4427 4 месяца назад
Difference is the other two governments are directly installed by the American government after military occupation
@_Wai_Wai_
@_Wai_Wai_ 4 месяца назад
The people in charge of USA are primarily concerned about maintaining Petrodollar supremacy.
@MrA5htaroth
@MrA5htaroth 4 месяца назад
I hope to hear something useful, but the comment made from about 0:43 onwards doesn't give me hope. He criticises China for going into countries and putting in the capital investment that will allow them to build the infrastructure that will allow for the exploitation of raw materials in that territory. That seems really positive to me. The problem is not with the Chinese doing that, it is with local people not using the wealth that this might generate to lift up the rest of society through taxation and profit sharing so that other economic sectors might benefit.
@Vffhndsercchi
@Vffhndsercchi 6 месяцев назад
Ren should be on jre
@standardprocedure7017
@standardprocedure7017 4 месяца назад
This is the same guy that wants history to not exist and to not have a contemporary effect.
@waynedurning8717
@waynedurning8717 6 месяцев назад
You know who was sounding the alarm about China back in the 80s snd 90s? Thats right, Donald Trump!
@payton7920
@payton7920 6 месяцев назад
I can always count on Joe Rogan podcast to give me the dumbest fucking takes on China I’ve ever heard 🫡
@Mriya2012
@Mriya2012 6 месяцев назад
to be fair, cooperation between China and the US made the last 40 something years one of the most prosperous times in world history. Insane amount of wealth was reated across the board. Billions of people's life were changed for the better, and US still is the No.1 Economy in the world and overtook China in growth in just five or so years. Great plan if there is one.
@dontbestupid6664
@dontbestupid6664 4 месяца назад
He’s talking about What China is planning on doing, but what America and the EU already do. Lol.
@hue9962
@hue9962 4 месяца назад
Lol😂. This guy doesn’t know what he talking about. Deng Xiaopeng only wanted to lead his people out of poverty after what Mao destruction of the Chinese people with his economic policies and red army did. Deng wanted to implemented capitalism but he didn’t want to let go of power of communism party. Therefore he implemented term limits hoping to make it a true republic. Unfortunately Xi reversed a lot his work. After Deng came back from exile he help china great again. You think he or the party give a crap about world domination at that time? Deng only want his for people to be feed and gainful employment. 😂people in USA don’t know about China history of the cultural revolution and 100 years of humiliation by western countries and yet they talk like they know a lot.
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