The PO-20 Sounds are Different than Other PO's!

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The PO-20 Sounds are Different than Other PO's!
Today I'm going to show you how the PO-20 Arcade handles it's sounds very differently from other Pocket Operators. While it might seem limiting on the surface, the increased polyphony of the Arcade can really open up some interesting songwriting options! Enjoy the video :)
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Комментарии : 73

@rlynker 3 года назад

I love more people showcasing the PO-20. This is hands down my favorite PO. The chord feature makes quick song ideas a reality in no time! Plus, without your lead notes (that don't change with the chord) you can change your whole song just by trying new chord progressions (since the follow sounds change as well). At times I would use the PO-12 Rhythm for drums to go with it, but the drum sounds on it are really just fine! My only complaint (and why I was hesitant to buy one for a long time) is the chiptune sounds. The bass sounds great and some of the sounds are decent, but I would love a PO that had all these features with more mature sounds like on the PO-28 Robot. I really was hoping for a PO-3x that would essentially be a PO-20 with better sounds. And I am still on the lookout for a low cost, portable device that has these features.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

I personally love the chiptune sounds, but I definitely see your point. I can't believe they haven't released a newer PO with the same workflow as the Arcade yet!

@rlynker 3 года назад

@@FreeBeat Does the OP-Z have any of those features? I always hear that the OP-Z is "every PO wrapped up in 1 package", but it's so expensive I have not really taken the time to look into the specific features.

@jaredgodinez7544 3 года назад

Sick! Ordered mine the other day, glad to see another lesson up before I get exploring.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

Nice! Happy jamming :)

@willft520 5 месяцев назад

What a great video! I love everything about the PO's!

@baconsledge 3 года назад

Great selection of reviews,etc.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

Thanks so much!

@mickypoo4622 2 года назад

Another great tutorial of yours for the PO 20! You obviously have great insight into these PO devices but pass on your knowledge in a way that is easy to understand and also fun to watch. Moreover, you always make your explanations comprehensive, clear and concise, which is rather refreshing and always appreciated. Many thanks again and please keep up the good work.

@FreeBeat 2 года назад

Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate it! Do you have any other PO-20 (or any PO) tutorials you'd like to see next?

@mickypoo4622 2 года назад

@@FreeBeat That's very kind of you to ask. I also have the PO 33 KO and PO 35 Speak but I see you already have plenty of tutorials for those so I will just watch them first and see how it goes.

@rlynker 3 года назад

Not sure how many PO-20 owners are on here. Anyone want to share some of their favorite chord progressions to use on it? Aside from the many combinations of Am/F/G/C (I know...boring, but they always work :) ), I like: Am-Am-G-G-F-F-Esus-E (or Em instead of the Esus). The SUS (or minor) to major resolve sounds awesome though it quickly gets drowned out once you add other sounds.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

I tend to pick starting points that don't sound as "good" and work from there!

@rlynker 3 года назад

@@FreeBeat Interesting....I should play around more with "odd" progressions.

@vectorhunter4659 3 месяца назад

so good, I love this PO

@kengreen6901 2 года назад

Thank you for all your Arcade time, it’s definitely one of my favourite PO’s

@FreeBeat 2 года назад

No problem, thanks for watching!

@kengreen6901 2 года назад

Me too, but they are all like kids, kinda love each one in different ways.

@paddyboy207 Год назад

Wow, I totally underrated the PO-20, the chord feature is really nice. Thanks for the video.

@FreeBeat Год назад

Yeah it is!

@danielleanderson6371 5 месяцев назад

That bit about using sound 8 for the snare is a big mood. The PO-28 only has one knob you can use for it's snare and it's a great snare. The PO-20 has two knobs for its sound 3 snare and all it can do is sound like hot garbage. No clue why TE thought that was an acceptable snare sound for a PO with such a heavy emphasis on making backing tracks. Speaking of sound 8, though, it's really annoying that the sound effects loop twice on knob A instead of each sound having one window that's twice as wide. Makes it a real pain to select the exact sound you want from it, though thankfully that beautiful sound 8 snare is positioned at 0 and 50, making it far easier to access than the open hi-hat/cymbal at 40 and 90.

@FreeBeat 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching!

@vilesounds 3 года назад

I've been neglecting my PO-20, because I don't feel as familiar with it as my PO-133, videos like these are a big help, thanks!

@rlynker 3 года назад

I have the opposite problem! Heh. I have a PO-33 that I almost NEVER use even though I know it's an amazing PO. Because of the level of simplicity of the early model POs, I just feel more comfortable with them. I need to use my PO-33 and PO-35 more because they sound amazing.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

Glad you like the videos! Happy jamming :)

@howardgreenwich490 3 года назад

I've had the arcade for a few months. What it gains in versatility, it loses in how long it takes to make a song. The chord capacity makes it a lot more musical in some ways than other POs (I also have 12 and 35), at least as we think about traditional chord progressions. That's why I wanted it. But my excitement of putting together whole songs was tempered by the work it takes to tune each note of the melody (over several patterns) and then sting together a gazillion patterns + the chords. And, the live performance options are meh compared to the others I have. The best in my opinion are the low and high pass filters. If TE were to build on the arcade, I'd love to see some more sophisticated sounds than chip tunes - maybe using samples. That would make it worth it for me to put in the work to create a song on it.

@rlynker 3 года назад

You hit the nail on the head here. There is a level of complication for lead notes. I usually have to write it down first and then set the notes or I experiment with the notes 1 pattern at a time. The PO-20 is perfect for making your chord base using just the sounds that change. Then you can play around with different chord progressions without changing anything. I think if you are into chaining POs together, you could do melody (and optionally drums) with other POs. And I, too, would LOVE to see an updated version of the Arcade from TE. I was hoping a new PO-3x model would come out using the chord features with updated sounds and features.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

I actually think it's almost faster to sequence on, but only if you know the exact notes you want in your melody. It's definitely not a good PO for improvisational jamming. Thanks for watching!

@Mnnvint 2 года назад

I started with the PO-20, and I was a bit disappointed in the other way. I was surprised the effects "stuck" in the PO-16, even when edit isn't active, and how they have to be added during play and can't be added per note while you enter it. PO-20 has a cool palette of chip sounds, but of course on a real fully programmable chip you can do infinitely more, even on the weaker 8-bit music chips. There are also things on the PO-20 which 8-bit chips didn't have, like reverb (it had to be faked in expensive and limited ways!). PO-20 is good for "chippy" effects but keep in mind chip music is way more than that :)

@phyzzx Год назад

@@Mnnvint If they put all the POs into a single or even two units with just a few small upgrades I'd probably buy them just so I can have all of what each individual PO is missing together and maybe move away from battery ONLY, sigh. A man can dream.

@kengreen6901 2 года назад

Wish T.E would make another Arcade version...but yah, thank you for all the Arcade vids. All your PO vids have helps Soo much!

@FreeBeat 2 года назад

Glad the videos have helped, thanks for watching!

@vprice509 3 года назад

That sequencer is perfect for your Epic Quest soundtrack needs, I’d say. Looks fun.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

It definitely is, thanks for watching!

@ClementineFury 3 года назад

I'm a simple man; I see the po-20 in the thumbnail, I click.

@rlynker 3 года назад

You and me both! I love to see PO-20 videos to see what people have done with it....to see if I can learn new ideas.

@ClementineFury 3 года назад

@@rlynker agreed! The limitations built into the technology lead to some really creative work arounds to get a desired result a lot of the time Plus the sounds are just great, I go back to the first po-20 + NTS-1 jam on this channel way too often because the po-20 sounds too good with the reverb

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@kengreen6901 Год назад

Much learning!

@FreeBeat Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@Sadiquecat 3 года назад

I'm resisting the urge to GAS by releasing 1min of music per € spent on something before buying another. But oh boi the po-20 is making that challenge hard!

@brokenscart7989 3 года назад

Theye cheap enough to be impulse buys and that’s dangerous..

@rlynker 3 года назад

My favorite PO. So quick and easy to create the base for a song and quickly experiment with chord progressions.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

That is a really great challenge, I might have to try it!

@bobbyarchaic9649 3 года назад

Those are interesting changes. Particularly with the way the drums are handled on the arcade.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

Yeah, I actually really like it!

@antonio_luis 3 года назад

I've always viewed the way the Arcade and the Tonic function with parameters to be similar. Since the 16 sounds are already locked in. And the two knobs alters the sounds.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

They are fairly similar, with the Arcade having much higher polyphony. Thanks for watching!

@edtuckerartist 3 года назад

Wondering if anyone has had the microphone stop working on there PO? My 133's mic stopped recording after I used a small dry paint brush to clean dust off, line in still works though.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

I haven't heard of that, sorry :( thankfully the line in works, but frustrating your mic stopped.

@TheMortyvicar 3 года назад

I just had my ears opened up by your demo. 🤔 now I got G:A.S. 🤣

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

Hahaha sorry!

@hellf.o Год назад

Hi sorry if I'm late this is really a great one! Few questions: Is it possible to set the pattern lenght (1/4, 1/8..)? And how to trigger sounds? Thanks a lot for your channel always so ispiring!

@FreeBeat Год назад

Sadly you can't change the pattern length :( What to you mean by trigger sounds? If you mean just playing them, you can't really on the Arcade. They have to be sequenced (at least the melodic sounds).

@hellf.o Год назад

@@FreeBeat Sorry I meant how to re-trig Thanks for the reply!

@cloroxpl 3 года назад

I sold PO-20 (my first PO) after few months. It's a good starting point, but it's just too repetitive for me. I wish a possibility to download sounds pack like in PO-32.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

The sounds will always be similar, but the actual songs you can make with the PO-20 can be so varied!

@Shirloq 3 месяца назад

I'm a bit confused. There isn't a "16 levels" mode where i have a sound selected (via holding sound and pressing the pad) and I can play the sound chromatically if I'm not in Write/step mode..?

@FreeBeat 2 месяца назад

Nope! It's pretty different but still super fun.

@Subzeranea 6 месяцев назад

Po33 is more versatile for the sampling feat but po20 is more fun! Chiptunes sounds me so good, I love it❤

@jordanWAH 3 года назад

Yeah, man, the po20 is so much easier to get something good sounding from it. Makes me want all of the first operators to see their differences and similarities.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

I find the first generation needlessly complicated to use honestly (except the rhythm). The PO-20 is the first one that really makes proper sense to me haha. Thanks for watching!

@edtuckerartist 3 года назад

Don't have the Arcade (yet) but do have the Robot - which seems a little more confusing to use for me.

@FreeBeat 3 года назад

The robot is fairly simple except for when it comes to switching between lead and bass sounds live in my opinion. And the sequencer seems to have a mind of its own when live recording haha. Thanks for watching!

@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers Год назад

😀 Is this the only PO that enables you to choose each note by letter? Ab C#, etc.?

@alitna Год назад

Arcade was my first Pocket Operator. I really love the sound. But in hindsight it was a mistake to choose it. I think the other ones are much easier to learn.

@FreeBeat Год назад

Yeah the Arcade is awesome but it can be a bit complicated for a first PO!

@acerbt 10 месяцев назад

You were using cords a minor, c, and d. The cords are in this order, starting from the upper left. d minor, e minor, e sus4, e major, f , g, c/g (c cord over g bass), e/g# (e cord over g sharp), a minor, c major/a (c major over a), d minor/a (d minor over a), d major/a (d major over a, a major, b7, c, and d.