The Problem With Christian Music 

If you say Jesus' name only 299 times, then are you really a Christian tho?

SKippySounds this is the issue I have soo much! A song called "Take off - Derek Minor (Feat. Ty Brasel, Canon, and KB)" was released this year and people kept saying "oh this is secular because Jesus (God) is hardly mentioned and KB normally raps about God but doesnt in this song...I'm so disappointed!!" What I just quoted (paraphrased) bothers me soo much. Christian artists or Artists who are christians dont have to always rap about Jesus or the Bible. They can rap about other things too. Jut because you rap about issues like relationships, racism, etc. And not God, doesnt mean you arent a Christian. Christians cant seem to understand this

"you need to name drop Jesus 300 times" LOL SO TRUE!!

Considering Jesus is supposed to be the focal point of Christianity then that is understandable... watering down your lyrics is not going to make me (an atheist) more interested in Christianity.

I seen a guy yesterday say that in Lecraes Rehab album he said Jesus 42 times in the entire album. But in ATWT he only said it approximately five times. He even accused Lecrae of not being Christian anymore. I was sitting there like, if he’s not Christian then why does he have a song about Romans 8:28? If he’s not a real Christian then why is he talking about how God brought him from nothing to something? He may not have said Jesus, but he still said God. I may not say Jesus name when I talk to you, but you can still tell by my fruit that I am a Christian. Had to get that off my chest..... and the guy who said that bull crap about Lecrae lied on everything in his video, and twisted the little bit of truth he had in it. He even twisted the word to match his video. I know he lied because he only showed part of Lecraes interviews and wouldn’t let them finish to show what he really said. I’ve watched all of those interviews too. This Youuber is called thevigilantchristian

Top NF songs?

The AtZ Show All I have (this one is a song title, not all the songs I have) Mansion Therapy session 10 feet down Warm up Outcast Intro I Intro II Intro III How could you leave us He really doesn’t have a song I don’t like Edit: I forgot, my favorite song of his: real

His new album Perception is Fantastic. It's better than Therapy Session.

I agree, but I think Mansion and Therapy session have some really standout songs.

Yeah they do. All of his albums are amazing. I'm not saying Lecrae isn't but I haven't listened to him in a long time. I have a few of his church clothes but that's it.

😬 yikes

@Outcast it’s kind of dangerous because as we know, the industry is evil, and partnering with it would be offensive to God

@Outcast Sounds like a plan😎

isnt the second and third word you use considered blasfomy?

Do not be deceived by feelings.

Music is meant for the lord only as a christian

They don't confront issues like racial injustice. I'm talking about contemporary Christian music.

Reneiloé atheist here Dream works prince of Egypt is good Idk why everyone forgets that movie Might also be my bias of loving ancient Egypt stuff (and ancient Greece)

So me and my roommate have a goal of finding legit good Christian movies so far what we’ve come up with...: Priceless Believe me I think there was one more but currently it’s slippped my mind but believe me is really funny I highly recommend it

A Potato I still listen to Prince of Egypt soundtrack. 👍🏾

Go see "I Can Only Imagine". There was effort in that movie.

Passion of the Christ is good, Mel Gibson had to fight off the Jews and still is ridculed by them today

True. There are both sides to look at. Repetition in a song doesn't make that song bad; it just needs to be executed properly.

Christian music should be about Christianity! That means no cursing, talking about sex, drugs, murder, etc.😌

I whole heartedly agree. We need different kinds of music for different kinds of people. If you need a worship song to get you out of depression, or a rap song to vibe too, or just a praise to get you hype for the day, we need variety. I respect Lecrea's decision and goal for his life. But as for me I just like to vibe to a variety. Finally, this video is really good at generalizations. While most of the content is true (at least for some artist) I know a few musition myself who have started to create songs. Sometimes one verse of a song is all you need to lift your spirits up.😄

Miguel G, you summed us up perfectly!

Flesh and blood do not reveal these things brother. And the grace of God is only sweet to the hears who hear the sound of it.

Why would anyone want to change their sex , to be in a relationship to him..

That's not right and not what I am about . I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THAT WHATSOEVER

@@rickeywatson8797 What are you talking about?

Exactly. Satan believes in Jesus too but that doesn’t stop him from working as the adversary

@@rickeywatson8797 you don't make sense whatsoever bruh

Kevin's dope! Looking forward to more collabs soon!

i agree as well! recently, my Church's worship team got a new leader, and you know, change and whatever... but the music is still just meh, the same every week, the same sort of "love you god, thanks for stuff" sort of thing... im sure most of those people are trying and want to make good music, but do they all really have to say nothing? if anything i like to see what the song is saying, to learn, fellowship in a way... but if the lyrics are just the same thing repeated in different ways, what am i getting out of that?

The AtZ Show woah, you actually replied, that made my day dude!

Narwhal Studios i wouldent call NF a cristian rapper

Kelsie Gildon - Covers,DIY,How To Draw, and More i think its more of hes a rapper thats cristian

But they don't have a belly button tho

JoanieDoeShadow OMG😂

Oh where is my hair brush 🙄

Where’s my MF LARRY BOY

We’re going to get all kinds of nasty letters saying “where’s my water buffalo, why don’t I have a water buffalo?” And are you prepared to deal with that? I DON’T THINK SO

I memorized their number 3 years ago! 1-800-525-5683.

I don't listen to Klove or WayFM when they have those drives. Hallelujah FM or Gospel 900 are my alternatives.

@@1973onigiri you're still using radio stations instead of Spotify or RU-vid?

You are so right

Well to be fair. If you're a christian I feel like it shouldn't be a secret. I believe you should let people know what you believe. However I don't think people should box themselves into just being "christian" if you are a christian that's part of who you are. But that doesn't limit you to only doing christian content. Owl City is an artist I really admire because he writes a lot of deep lyrics and music, but he still writes songs about God and his faith, my problem with bands like Paramore(prior to your comment I didn't know they were christians), is that they don't let God influence their music, or at least from what I can see.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think you have to write a sermon into your song all the time. But personally I just don't christ in their lyrics, like, at all. Paramore is sort of a band that's known for being super edgy and harsh(excluding after laughter, that's more up-beat) and a lot of their songs have rather questionable morals

That's the same with Memphis may fire. After I found out that matty mulling was a, Christian. I have looked at him at a different light

Zoey hanilock Saying who/what you believe in is the whole point of Christianity; in order to be saved you are required to believe and confess Jesus is Lord. We are directed to spread the word of God. The Bible says faith comes by hearing, how can people hear if nothing is said.

lil chris tuten I think the reason why they’re not ‘loud’ about being a Christian is because religion, especially Christian, has a bad connotation in our day and age. And it is quite difficult to share about Christ when people found out that you’re a Christian. It is like an off switch.

They also have those OG classics like "Praise You In This Storm"

Couldn't agree more! The first three songs of their "Lifesong" album are great. I can't believe you actually responsed to my comment by the way. I know you're not a celebrity or anything, but I really appreciate you taking the time to read your subscribers' comments and even reply to them. I respect and admire you for that. I love your content, so keep up the good work man!

Casting Crowns bores me to death.

Which songs have you heard from them?

NEEDTOBREATHE IS LIFE

Isaac Liu ,yes indeed, preach. Those bring people to healing and salvation.

Kelsie Gildon - Covers,DIY,How To Draw, and More he helped bring an end to slavery, he in fact was a slaver that became a believer

Keith Campbell aha gazelle is really a great rapper too

NihilisticEntropy 😐...I guess you just one of "those" fans bruh

Keith Campbell Kendrick Lamar isn't Christian he's a member of the Hebrew Israelite Sect of religious people .Which are black Jews mainly they do believe in Jesus and that he is the Massiah but they are differences when it comes to whom this Jesus really is and some Camps if you ask them separate themselves from Christianity saying it's a white man counterfeit of the real thing.

Keith Campbell oh and yes some Hebrew Israelites are christian just like they are Messianic Jews but all of the Hebrew Israelites are Christians it's kinda complicated

Jamal Holder 😐Huh. I get it. I didn't know. ...Y'know never heard it in a song ...I just hear Jesus and put it in the box

Yes and amen

Christianity is a joke.

@@SpookyKabuki2.0 K.

@@frankocean99 The text wasn't even that long bro.

*starts humming WHO I AM HATES WHO I'VE BEEN*

Death grips is important

Forget and Not Slow Down was Relient Ks best album. Hands down.

The standard for christian music should be no less the standard already set up by the Word of God.

Isaac Good Amen brother. Christian music may always "sound the same" and or be "lame". Take it up with God, He sets the standard. We go by "it is written." Not our opinions. Be blessed everyone.

They became apostate - praying for God's Judgment on them.

There you go! How is god a creator and created us but we arent putting that in the music! Where is the artistic growth? CCM has really become formulaic!

Pretty Jackson but how genuine would the revival be? 75% of Americans already claim to be Christians... But look at their lives. There’s no repentance, no new being. When we genuinely come to God and Christ, we become a new creature, and we are in the world but we must not be a apart of it. You can’t love God and the world at the same time. And these modern Christian music doesn’t tell you anything about the truth of why Jesus came.. he didn’t come to make us successful or make our lives easier, actually it’s the opposite. Jesus said it’s difficult to follow Him and that you will face persecution just as He did. It’s very sad to see how many people think they are being saved, someone needs to tell them the truth 😔

We do, it's called the Hymn Book.

brainwashing.. since all christian family's that have children are forced into christianity.. they're never given the choice.. believing or not... I'm from a christian family, I was given the rare choice not to believe in something that cant be proven... its sad these people think just BELIEVING god exist must make it true.. its a neat scam..... and it gets money everytime they hand that basket around the church's. funny they're exempt from paying tax's like normal business's too....

Nate S. Yaaassss!

My favorite band.

I love HAPPINESS and I’m not even christian. I mean Chance The Rapper is also _technically_ a christian right?

I know the best breath.

absolutely, everyday

Love them ❤️

bingo

What do you mean by that?

Serite Ross I think what he is trying to say is that the music needs to be a more one size fits all rather a tailored fit. (I’m in ministry but not a worship leader so bare with me) There are two types of Christian music in my opinion, Worship or “In the bubble” and Christian artists that are “out of the bubble. Examples for in the bubble artists would be Mercy Me, Toby Mac, Newsong. Examples of Outside the bubble would be Demon Hunter, ANyone from the 116 group, Switchfoot, etc. when worshiping at a church there’s something that needs to be taken into account, the congregation. The congregation is filled with people of all walks of faith. From those who come once a year, all the way to those that comes multiple times a week. Therefore we need songs to be able to hit both the heavily devoted as well as the newcomers. Worship is to praise God, no matter how simple or intricate. Outside of the bubble artists use their specific genre to reach out to a fan base that’s heavily mixed of both believers and non believers. A great example is when I went to see Red and Demon Hunter in concert. There were a lot of Christians there but also a lot of non Christians, F words going everywhere. But the thing is, they are listening to God influenced music, a reaching out, something that worship music doesn’t do. Worship music is to raise a voice of praise and acceptance, not to be evangelical (spread the good news). Sorry I know that’s a lot but that’s just my perspective. I love equally but sometimes I want/ need one or the other. If anyone asks I listen to non Christian stuff as well, grew up on Kiss but love all genres. Have a great day y’all.

@@jkatt100 I think I get the general idea of what your saying.

Serite Ross let me know if I lost you at any point, sometimes I’m oblivious to certain phrases (churchy words) i use that not everyone knows.

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It does seem like a lot of it lacks raw emotion. Like we're too scared to show our flaws or question anything.

One thing to understand is that Worship isn't about ourselves. It's about singing our hearts out to God. It shouldn't be about making a song sound catchy, or have words that stir emotions, Worship is about getting our eyes on God, (Even in those dark times.) The bible tells us to put our trust in God, not ourselves. If we just focus on how bad our lives are we miss out on what God is actually doing in our lives. A perfect example would be Job, he lost everything and his own wife told him to reject god and just die. Job could have caved in and cursed God and gave up, but instead he praised God, and knew that anything in his life could be taken like that. Also when we have feelings of doubt, condemnation, and hurt, and despair, we ought to know the enemy will do anything to pull us from the faith. Also to the people who tell you are a bad person for having those struggles, and doubts, obviously are hypocrites, because everyone goes through those doubts and struggles. Also people need to be more loving and understanding when it comes to dealing with people, it can ruin them if they don't receive love, but face judgement from the mass. Jesus went through the same exact thing. The people were praising Him when He entered Jerusalem, then where mocking Him on the cross. We have to understand if we stand for Christ, not many will be on our side, because we are now enemies of the world. We are a threat to the Satan, and we are spreading the good news of the Gospel. Finally I'll say this, I've gone through the worst of the worst, and was hanging on a thread. I was dealing with dark thoughts, I was at such a low, but somehow I knew God was going to make things right. As bad as those feelings of darkness, and thoughts that reveal our dark side, its part of our nature, we where born into sin!!! None of us are made new until we come to Christ, and accept that He is our only way to God. Nothing else will suffice. The heart is deceitful above all things,And desperately wicked;Who can know it? I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings. Jeremiah 17:9-10 God knows everything about us. When we have thoughts that aren't right, we have to take captivity of those thoughts, and lay them down at the Cross. Same goes with how we feel. Feelings are extremely deceitful, they come and go. Now I'm not saying its easy to lay down our troubles at the cross, and let Jesus carry those burdens for us, but it sure is a lot easier then carrying them ourselves. God wants us to come to Him, and give all our troubles to Him. He wan'ts to have a relationship with us, and wants to help us thrive and grow. He truly is the one and only who won't leave us or forsake us. He loves us and wants to help us grow in Him. Love you, and better yet Jesus loves you more.

You need gospel

I've found the most honest, and theologically deep music ends up being the Christian's that are into "hardcore" type music. Wolves at the Gate for example: they have SO much Biblical depth, they've helped me understand the character of God in new ways. Taught me new verses. You have some of the more main stream stuff like Memphis May Fire with more generic lyrics but still filled with honesty, openness and Biblical truth. I've personally found a lot of the hip hop stuff to be a bit empty(particularly comparing the musicality of the different Christian genres.) The thing is; different music reaches different people. Which he points out in the video, but also while kind of ragging on the music that I personally know several people have come to Christ through. God uses all different kinds of music to reach people; and the Bible seems to indicate that unless the music involves promotion of sin, or causes you or your brother to stumble we really don't have grounds to bash someone else's view.

Cross Movement are the OGs!!

Completely agree with you, this guy is bashing worship music and christian music but the whole point of it is to glorify God not to make us feel good it's for the glory of God. And God bless those who turn to the world cause the want to fit in or they want to make more money but a true christian singer would understand that his ministry is and his gift of singing or being able to play an instrument was given by God and is only for God. I always tell God take me where you want me to go and tell me what you want me to say cause sometimes our flesh doesn't like what God tells us to do and we try to justify it but it's wrong. Let's not forget the purpose of us bein created, to glorify God in everything we do, and if you feel like doing your own thing than may God bless you because his will is always first than ours.

valente arroyo Totallly agree

I couldn't have said it any better myself

Well said 🙏🏾

You'll never gain more followers if all of your outreaches towards new people are garbage. A belief system isnt an excuse for terrible media

That just made me go "Huh". I swear, other Christians don't know what they're talking about half the time

I hope he's joking I couldn't tell lol.

Matthew 6:7 ESV - 7 And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. One version says Repetitive babble. God hates repetition.

LALA FILMS thats wheb u are pray bro... the question here is "why do u sing?" And not "why do u pray?" When u sing... the act itself is repetitive, regardless of whether the song is really good or its terrible. When the angles in heaven singing to God (book of revelation) they sang repetitively.

+precious igbebor singing for god is a way of praise. If your praise of him doesn’t actually have depth to it, meaning, but rather going through the motions like a lot of Christians songs do nowadays it’s not true praise because it no longer truly means something

+jordan scott no where in the bible does it say, our praise should be long and thoughtful, God looks at the heart, and moreover you should glorify God from your spirit and not from your mind, just because something is common and u do not think is correct doesn't make it wrong, all these facts are from his head or experiences and not from God. Thanks

+precious igbebor “going through the motions doesn’t please you” a direct quote from Psalm 51:16 MSG. All of these modern day christian songs go through the motions and have not thought. Mindless praise means you’re not actually thinking of pleasing him it means you’re trying to meet a status quo. You can only say “god is great, god is great” so many times before what you’re saying has no merit. Zec 7:4 Then the word of the LORD Almighty came to me: 5 “Ask all the people of the land and the priests, ‘When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months for the past seventy years, was it really for Me that you fasted? And when you were eating and drinking, were you not just feasting for yourselves? They too were not having actual thoughtful worship they just repeated what everyone else was doing because everyone else was doing it so then they felt obligated. They wouldn’t say that, and neither would christian “artists” (I use that term sparingly because there is no true artistry in the act of reusing the same phrases that have been said since the 80s). Literally what you said was one of the most anti intellectual things I’ve ever heard. There is nothing wrong with having commonality, what’s wrong is that christian music doesn’t think about what they’re saying. They plaster the same phrases of what other people said before them and then they profit off of it because they know people like you will suck it all up

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Cringe Critic yet he supports the gay agenda.

Sham Hosein no he doesn't

Chrish Pilapil stop blindly following People. Look for yourself. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-au1gL1nbyEg.html

Who cares? We're Christians, Jesus has saved us all from sin. If you hate gays, don't try to back that with Christianity because we don't believe in that. We believe that homosexuality is a sin, which is something we all suffer from and need to be saved from, and that doesn't discount people's worth. Don't try to back up your hatred and bigotry with Christianity.

Bueno, ahora si son muy repetitivas

Switchfoot knows whatsup

I like christian artist box because it mean they stand bold for their message any they are not ashamed of it. artist who happen to be christian also include Paramore many other who just make selector music. what makes christian music christian is the lyrics and listen to it built up in your faith.

Hoping to see them live soon!

100% on your final sentence

Kevin Davis ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WKZjXyikYvA.html

It has the same repetitive drum rhythm too. Why can't contemporary christian music have a nice and groovy drum groove like its gospel counterparts?

This is a very modern trend. Songs sung by congregations throughout much of church history were quite lengthy, and short hymns might have 5 verses. Many also included four-part harmony as a standard. Often, these were used to help remember theology (as our memory is often best with thoughts set to music), so that memorization served a purpose in peoples' walk with God.

Hey Kevin! Really like your videos.

For sure!

I found your channel thanks to this video.

The AtZ Show Aha Gazelle is a good christian rapper. Check him out

Say Goodnight Kevin Cosmos? Earth is stationary. RE-read your bible and realize the elites have us fooled. The "Universe' makes no sense from the perspective of intelligent design...and the people pushing the heliocentric model also push the big bang. EARTH IS ALL, and we are not specks of dust. Research flat earth.

Me too ☺️

@@deborahsiahaan9261 have you heard the version of amazing grace by the Finnish singer Tarja Turunen? I listened to it recently and was quite impressed, she doesn't do the entire song though.

Similarly, if it's a Christian song (most), then it leaves you feeling like somebody died. And I'm speaking as a Christian musician.

First of all, porn addiction is not a thing. Second of all I'm pretty sure if God cared so much about people's listening habits he would have struck a few people down with lightning by now

@Sir Donkurito So it's not just me... There are times when I feel less guilty for listening to P.O.D. Haste The Day, or August Burns Red since they're Christian Metal bands. As opposed the secular bands I listen to like Disturbed, Iron Maiden, or Grave Digger.

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This «supject» has been up before RU-vid was thought of, aka before the internet

Mrs_pinky85 ,again your awake, praise God! Many people aren't.

I don't see why an all powerful perfect being would need your praise or anyone else's.

Do we need to listen to worship 24/7 tho? I don't believe so

There is the saying help yourself then god helps you. Overly worshipping doesnt help anyone except yourself. And helping people or doing something for others does far more than million. prayers. And forcing that on anyone is disrespectful too.

Mrs_pinky85 I did a rap song called change at church but I thought about I was pretty much rapping about myself instead of rapping and praising God

Inside My Mind It did trip me out hearing that future voice intro about if you dont like metro he gon shoot you. Lol. Was like look at Lecrae getting them expensive beats

Amen

That's so fucking cringe

jesus is a man tho bro

José Hilario Ah yes, the book that condones slavery, genocide and human sacrifice is a "good" place to get your morals from

Bryan Ziegelman you sound slow

I love Jeremy Camp-.

I've heard a couple singles from his first two albums. Looking forward to dissecting his 3rd.

Lol what?! Dude, Switchfoot is my FAVORITE band of all time. And how are they false teachers? How do YOU know how “Christian” they are? And how is this lady showing a satanic symbol?

@Maria Kenedy Amen

You can see the FUTURE

I agree. It's like Kevin said, once the top guys knew they could milk the "genre" for money, they sucked a lot of the authenticity away from it. It's not to say it's all gone - just harder to find.

The AtZ Show just gotta know where to look. Still greats out there

Tooth and nail was king. Lol

ravissary79 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WKZjXyikYvA.html

Kelsie Gildon - Covers,DIY,How To Draw, and More for king and country is amazing