The Problem with Rocket League in Fortnite 

It feels like a betrayal to be told “we’re working on new content for the game” and that new content has nothing to do with the game we love. It’s just disappointing

people keep saying that "rocket racing was the reason why trading got removed" but for me they're using rocket racing as an excuse to get rid of it. all epic want is our money, so if you can't trade anymore, you gotta buy the items from the item shop. biggest asshole move i have seen in this game

When Epic bought Rocket League, the community was worried the game would become a neglected cash grabber. It took some time, but Epic delivered! Waiting for an indie developer to make a spiritual successor. Feels like just a matter of time before Epic shuts down even more servers to prioritize their bigger cash machines.

the saddest part about the nonexistent updates in rocket league is that the community has both EXPLAINED and MADE what we would love to see in the game. its not just "we want an update!" its "this is explicitly what we want here is a way to implement it" (custom maps for example)

Honestly the way Epic treat us is just embarassing

This mode would’ve been so much better in rocket league itself. With all the movement tech and demos it would’ve been perfect and easy to integrate

Epic’s doing what other game companies are too scared to do… destroy their game 😂

I think they should just listen to the community before the game just dies.

The drifting in rocket racing just makes me want to play Trackmania's Canyon environment.

Imagine putting Rocket League in Fortnite and having actual people as the audience instead of our Egg overlords.

I honestly suspect that the fabled "Rocket League 2" might be a thing launching inside of fortnite, once all of rocket leagues assets and cosmetics get ported into Fortnite, we already have a car that acts like the Rocket league vehicle inside fortnite currently only usable inside of Creative

I just dont get why at the end with the dev tweets they were all like "omg yayy this is so emotional im very glad my project has been revealed now" its like bruh this whole time its been a FORTNITE MODE??? Has nothing to do with RL and no wonder the games gotten more stale lately

They actually pulled Rocket League developers off RL to do... this. That has to be a massive april fools joke that was just too late. "Oh yeah, we're definitely working on something big and new - just not for the game you think"

I usually play Rocket League with about 140 ping, so I could imagine the hell I will experience if I get this game

To have content and features removed from an actual game in favor of a mini game that will only see short-term success speaks volumes as to how epic games sees and treats us.

i think why they went silent until the last minute was because of their decision to remove trading. if they posted a season 13 trailer, for example, they would get 100% hate and i would be one that’s hating too and everyone would quit

Great video, and agree with so much. Countdown to the countdown is hilarious, along with the crowd crash.

no dropshot either :(

At this rate they should just make the game open source and let the community update it regularly lmfao

One of my favorite games of all time was "Battlerite" an arena battle game with incredible gameplay and high skill ceiling. The devs decided to instead of working on this great base of a game to instead work on a Battle Royale version of the game. The playerbase was devastated. The Battle Royale version flopped, and the devs tried to implement some of their Battle Royale ideas to the Arena Battler version which trashed the game. The arena players game were ruined and the royale version flopped. This feels similar in many ways. I just assumed Epic made Rocket Racing and not Psyonix. I am deeply concerned that Psyonix isnt putting in enough effort into improving rocketleague and instead watering out the IP. I really wish the entire psyonix put all their love and heart into improving Rocket League and the (alleged) UE5 version.

Love your videos keep it up bro it always makes me happy when you post

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

so 99% of the items that we can no longer trade arent even in rocket racing?

Love the videos keep it up!

That tm8 bumping you at kick off on the 1st match...I felt that. So did my ancestors.

ballz in fortnite :0

The maps in Rocket Racing are determined by your rank, so you saying that the maps in Ranked are all too easy is because you were only playing in Silver and Bronze. Otherwise, great video. With that being said, I honestly think Rocket Racing is dope. I just hope it doesn't interfere with the future of Rocket League.

Honestly, it's starting to feel like, if we get a Rocket League 2 / UE5 etc... it's going to be a Fortnite game mode, isn't it? I didn't realize until Rocket Racing that they were making it such a roblox-like game launcher but that feels inevitable now. Man, it's rough seeing all those Psyonix dev tweets. I wonder if they're really on board with all their resources going to Rocket Racing right now too.

Crazy how inverted gameplay feels normal now. At first driving upside down always messed with my brain. Now it feels weird if it’s not backwards when upside down

I've been playing rocket league since 2017 and I remember the og moments with the crates keys and the og spinning wheel and getting TW wonderments when they first came out because I did and also trading i also remember all the og dracos and zombas as well that's what made this game fun but ever since epic bought out psyonix we have went downhill but I never thought they would remove the one core feature keeping this game alive i hope one day they realize this and will bring back trading but who knows at this point

The irony at the end of telling us he is working on something big and that's why he didn't upload. Please don't let it be a rocket racing project aswell

They removed a bunch of extra modes and threw them into a rotating queue. Wtf. I am done with this game

I’m plat 1 in it rn and the courses get more complicated as you rank up

Hi, GC RL player here, and racing game enjoyer in general, currently Diamond 3 in RR. To me the main thing about Rocket Racing is not the difficulty of the maps per se but rather the optimality level you can reach. This game is all about getting the perfect lines (as in all other racing games) but the fact that some boost pads are placed in not necessarily obvious places and the shortcuts layouts make the races and the notion of „optimal line“ completely different from other racing games, which I find very interesting. Plus the fact that the races can get pretty intense very rapidly. This game, despite my first impressions, is genuinely fun to play. There are obviously problems with queue times, servers, physics. But if they deal with these problems, Rocket Racing could be huge.

The problem is full of bugs and quality of a mobile game.

Really Awesome Video! I like ur Stuff bro, but was this the huge documentary tht u called in ur 2023 mech video?

I was fully expecting to at least have all my cars available in Rocket Racing. Super lame that I only have an Octane and a Jager. It's really just a simple arcade racing game. I've been hopping on to get in a couple races when it's late at night and I'm too tired to keep up with Rocket League and start losing matches.

7:20 glad i'm not the only one who hates the ceiling driving controls

It’s hilarious because we thought at least we’d get most of our garage like bodies wheels boosts and decals in Fortnite yet only the Lambo Cyclone Jäger Diesel Octane and OEM wheels are available.

i will say this, i havent been watching a lot of RL videos because it just the same old stuff. when i hear the news about trading being removed killed me and what still piss me off still even tho it been 2 months since they announce the bad news is that we didnt hear anything about whats happening until the 8th! the rotation of LTMs made me wanna came back to the game and not focus on grinding and raging at my awful teammates in ranked. we need a big update that will bring back people. Right now, i dont have faith that RL will last another 2 years like this without us having UE5.

I just love wayton's opinions ❤

It is so sad to see the current state of this game, as a player that has been playing since 2017 I am disappointed.

The thought of downloading Fortnite to play this did cross my mind. When I saw the actual gameplay and realised how uninspired this game really is I knew there was no point. As Verge(?) said, he has 37 items in this Fortnite gamemode. Trading was removed to allow cross inventory. Where is it? Stocktane and a Lambo bundle. The only wheels being OEM and Lamborghini. They didn't even give you your items. Don't get me started on the new 4k credits car. Just bring back trading.

I completely agree and I said the exact same thing under Lawler's video on Rocket racing a couple days ago

Rocket racing has been a blast for me. Currently in platinum 3 with about 85%. Hoping to hit diamond tomorrow.

Kinda glad I stopped playing a few months ago. I love this game but it just got stale and I didn’t have the time to improve beyond GC2. Now I feel like it’s only a matter of time until it dies out if updates continue to be like practically non existent. Also I feel like psyonix’ focus might shift towards Rocket Racing (if it hasn’t already)-> less content for rl -> less players which could result in a death spiral for rl. I hope I’m wrong but that’s how I see it

I think Epic looks at RL like this: The existing players are not putting much more money into the game. They have their Fennecs and they re-earn the Rocket Pass credits each season. We are not the players Epic is looking for. But the Fortnite kids (and anyone else who doesn't already play RL), they haven't paid for imaginary stuff in RL yet. They are the "players" Epic is looking for. So the game will be changed to entice them to spend more money on it, and we, who have played the game since release, don't matter. There is only one solution: competition. How many FPS games and MOBAs are there? Why is there only one (serious) car soccer game? Someone should fix that.

When I saw they added Lightning Mcqueen...I was glad I had already quit the game.

As you rank up the difficulty of tracks you get increases.

They even deleted training, such a shame

speaking as a tryhard rocket league in 2017-19 player who now spends all of their time on Fortnite I logged into rocket league for the first time in years just to see the same cars and halloween cosmetics froms events 4-5 years ago in the shop (for WAY more money than when I was playing might I add) and it felt weird because I feel like I genuinely missed nothing. I don't think it's epics fault for RL staying the same because they aren't afraid to make changes to their main money maker but it might be a matter of logistics i.e not having enough time in the day to focus on RL becuase of RR.

It seems like they just want to push the rocket league player base over to Fortnite to cash out rather than to invest in Rocket League

RL will never go to UE5, it just wont work because the engine RL was built on is completely different. But Psyonix being bought by Epic was the worst thing to ever happen to RL

I really wish they’d just add creative mode to RL. Would be awesome for console players to enjoy workshop maps as well as allow for a whole bunch of different game modes to play without epic having to lift a finger

7:04 Bro became ur average Mustang driver

Its like, rocket was already on the way to its grave and they just dug it 20 m deep to fall in and to never see sunlight ever again. I am genuinely concerned how they intend to keep this game alive, when it is such an awesome and unique game.

There are harder maps that you unlock when you rank up.

5:05 the courses get harder as you rank up to gold, play, diamond I think

LMAO that transition into RL Racing was poetic

the easy maps u were talking about onliy appear in bronze and silver. The map difficulty increases as your rank does

good video havent watvhed but good videp

7:18 was an epic saved 😂

I wish rocket racing was just a separate game from fortnite fully fleshed out not just a scuffed fortnite racing mode. That way it would make more sense of cross game inventory

yes! more Wayton

It just feels like a half assed racing game that they slapped the Rocket league ip on to attract players from the rl community

Let's adress the situation again : they removed a key feature because you would get all your items in this scuffed gamemode for fortnite, but there is near to nothing that has been added from the item list. let's be real a minute here, no decent rocket league player will get attracted to that dumbed down poor version of trackmania, especially if the skill cap is so low. your thousand of hour does not translate in this gamemode, worse than that, it takes time and dedication to be actually good at RL, meanwhile RR is made to appeal for children by throwing them big numbers for the speedometer, yup 500kph or even 1000 kph is not the speed you're going to at all, at best you're going 200 to 300 kph. talking about epic, they milked the Rocket league player base for years without anything new that matters to the game, they takes us for granted because there isn't a competitor that could overtake RL, they fired a bunch of devs proving that they don't care and they never will, they don't listen at all to the community, so every dumb decision will come. It doesn't take a scientist to see that the game will slowly die with people loosing interest more and more, starting with all the people who did maintain a good chunk of the playerbase because of trading, removing it means more content creators will have to find another game, so they will not talk and promote rocket league anymore, and people who did watch those will slowly forget about the game because no one is talking about it, then you have also every player who played for trading that would follow too. add to that dropshot players and people who feel betrayed with this new season of nothing. the more the playerbase decrease, the more they will wait for a game, then you will have more leavers of the game, because waiting 2 to 5 minutes for a game filled with smurfs and toxics isn't gonna do it. we will end up with the last tryhards of the game, and pros, but if no ones is playing, watching or talking about the game, at some point rlcs will die aswell. I loved the game, but epic disrespect ends here

It's become pretty clear that Epic acquired devs like Psyonix and Harmonix for the team and their skills, not for their IP or passion projects. I'm glad that Rocket League wasn't flat out canceled like Fuser, but that's a really low standard to meet. There's probably gonna be a day where Rocket League straight up shuts down like Epic's older games before they went on an acquisition spree.

Merry Christmas.

I literally feel everything you're saying man... It's a fun game mode, but a huge disappointment to what we were hoping for and an even bigger disappointment to remove trading for it...

When you get announcements like this 10:05 its just hard to trust them

I've just completely lost faith to be honest. 0 communication + considering Rocket Racing was their priority this whole time I doubt UE5 for the game (assuming they're even working on it) is even close to getting finished. Epic only announces new projects when they are close to getting finished and there's a very good chance that they will just completely abandon the game. At this point I genuinely think that GTA 6 (coming in presumably early 2025) will release before UE5 for RL.

Thanks Psyonix and Epics. What's next, Rocket League Tennis? Oh go to hell

You can race harder maps in ranked. You just have to be higher rank.

oh my god... it's ghetto trackmania

I opend the Game. Was getting lost because of the new Playlist organisation. Played 2 Games of Rumble. Realised that Dropshot was gone. Closed the Game and didnt open it again since then. Dropshot was by far most of my time in Rocketleague :(

You’re my favorite Fortnite creator, Wayton.

Epic not abandoning Rocket League was heard before with Fortnite Save the World...

Your teammate was the SSL on the two touch air dribble video

9:38 I swear I saw a video from you Wayton a few months ago where you were convinced UE5 wasn't happening.

One race my mini turbo didn't work so everytime i drifted i didn't get any boost and was stuck going slow unless I used the normal boost

Yo wyaton, can we test the top 5% vs 10%. Im champ and i wanna test. Can we make it work?

Didn't post the footage of getting bullied by Corelli ☹ I disagree that this new game lacks depth since those advanced tracks a ton of tech to be discovered, and the mechanics while simple are going to be hard to master at a high level. It does have a lot of problems, most notably the desync, but the bones are really good I think. It'll never be a big esport game like Rocket League, but I think it has a lot of potential if they can iron out the kinks. As for Rocket League, I'm hopeful that they are still working on that UE5 port and have just been quiet about it. Epic is just the kind of company to never announce anything until there's a date attached to it. Keep the faith! And great video, that footage was hilarious.

They also removed split screening

After 3k hours of playing this game and then epic does an epic moment and wrecks the game

the saddest thing is for the creators that rely on trading. getting rid of possibly their main source of income just for a stupid mode that didn’t even need rocket league items in it.

I sorta love rocket racing, but I really, REALLY hope they dont turn actual Rocket League into just another fortnite mode. Rocket League was such a unique concept that hadnt been done before and now it'll just be known as a fortnite mode. Sometimes I dont want to launch fortnite :/

They removed trading for THIS

If they're not getting cash from RL anymore, hopefully they just open source it one day, along with the server code. Then who knows what could be in the future for RL.

They took out drop shot and chaos 4v4!

I don't know if you noticed or I didn't see you mention this but if you hit diamond 3 in Rocket Racing in Fortnite. you will get BLACK OEM'S. The more and more you rank up in Fortnite the more painted Oem's you unlock. AND these wheels not only work in Fortnite but they transfer into Rocket League and are usable in Rocket League.

As you rank up the tracks get harder just fyi :)

Wayton I created a new mechanic

What was the song closing out the video?

When playing rank as you rank up you get harder maps unlocked

they literally removed trading for nothing. none of the items are moved to Fortnite. Then what was the point. I havent played rocket league in a while, but I keep up with everything that happens, and never miss any of your videos. and this is just sad. Money hungry execs making these decisions. At least could have made Rocket racing mildly similar to rocket league. they changed everything. jump is now thrusters for whatever reason. flips are now just a new way to airroll i dont know why. but feels so clunky. and boost is now nitrous. If they just add 1 of Leth's maps to the core game or at least allow console players to try them out they would get so many old players coming back. but they want to increase Fortnite's player base at the cost of Rocket League. Because fortnite earns them more money.

its the part where you open Rocket Racing and there is the equivalent of the practice mode goal explosion of items in my account. if RL trading died for this.... there should be more than 5 racing stripes available for the fortnite cars.

Great Intro

Honestly Rocket Racing is really nice and fun and I love being able to race with rocket league cars but yeah removing trading for that is weird especially since they are only so few items that are available in fortnite (painted octane, oem wheels basically the rest is mostly paid DLC that were released over time) so it seems really not worth it and i think they could have integrated that to rocket league itself like they did for the knockdown mode,

In before someone creates a soccer based rocket car game and it's 10x better than Rocket League. We had a community to rival some of the coolest ones out there and Epic Games destroyed that.

🤣🤣🤣 your teammate hitting you.....I think it's pretty fun, but it's basically a racing game with rocket league cars, I think they should add pick ups like in Mario kart, add some chaos to the game 🤣😁🤘