The Problem With The 'Average' Voter? 

RW born, bred and indoctrinated.

She doesn't understand how much of a clanger that is

Living in a bunker for 20 years no doubt. Time to interview her parents...

Then demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about government. Just like that father and son form Hartlepool (I think) who complained about the hospital closing while there was a labour MP. Listen up, Ms average voter. Nobody ever said "It's my lifetime ambition to move to Grimsby".

looks closer to 40

She also mentioned Leeds another Labour city. She seems to hate the idea of a Labour government but really like Labour governments in practice. Liverpool is not just any Labour city it is the most left wing city in the country and one where the popular right wing papers have had virtually no sale since Hillsborough. I am sure that is not coincidence.

Or that it received millions in EU funding.

She'll find it hard to buy the Sun.

Also Liverpool has had a lot of EU money to redevelop the city, hence why most Liverpudlians voted to remain in the EU as did other cities

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Liverpool is a welcoming place. Apart from Sun readers, the red wall, Tories .

And brainless dummies

And any other traitors from the Red Wall.

As someone from Leeds, I'm worried she'll get lost halfway.

Lol 😂 😅

I keep saying this: Brexit was a sign that the UK is more American than European.

@@octavianpopescu4776 It was more of an identity crisis than anything else. The US fought a war to get rid of them, remember? And now they're in the CPTPP, a Pacific trade organisation. Nothing 'American' about it all.

@@octavianpopescu4776 was it Blair that said we had a "special relationship"?

Idiots are everywhere.... Thats not a criticism of anyone lol

proably not, she only has 8 fingers and 2 thumbs.

Yes but she thinks it’s a Labour council that’s responsible despite them having no money to make a difference!! My old northern home town lost its police station. People blamed the local Labour council . The Tory MP told them it was. Confronted with facts the loudest critic said “that might be true but I don’t want to believe it” He was sold on Boris spin “great guy who’d come down the pub” it had given him hope so he didn’t want to let it go. How can you respect people like that because they vote for not only their downfall but everyone else.

@@edwardbernthal160 yeah, and that's just her feet. *Banjo music playing* 🙊

Worse than that. Over the last 45 years the Tories have been in power for 32 of them. We are where we are now because of 32 years of Tory ideology and mismanagement.

It’s kinda funny how lots of these Tory voters think Labour are so competent that they can prevent the Tories from doing anything while being in opposition and having far fewer seats (about half at this point) and simultaneously say they don’t want them in power because they’re incompetent.

Yup, like a moth to a flame or a bright light.

Liverpool - one of my favourite cities, and I'm a Manc, which is also a Labour forever city!

The Great City of Liverpool. A city that is thriving despite all the efforts of the Tories. Traitors let us down, our own people too stupid to see the lies they were fed by the shovel full, and believed it. I cannot find it in me to forgive them, so be it and that is democracy. So here we are the Shit show that it is.

Glad I'm not the only one who caught that hypocrisy.

Sophy Ridge called her words "eloquent" but that belies the fact that thoughts behind them were fuzzy at best.

Sadly and actually, It is both!

"It's people like Sarah who think like this..." Think?

@@hoWa3920 I have a feeling that was a plant in the audience.

It *is* the Tories. She was 11 when they last came to power so she's been through secondary school and further education with them in office. Of course she's ended up confused in this way - her muddled simultaneous pro- and anti-state thinking is the Conservative media-society nexus working as intended!

"Brexit means Brexit", "Things can only get better" etc... Politicians thrive on these kinds of slogans. Obviously propaganda. How does a normal person figure it out?

Typical TV journalism, wouldn't you say? The 'investigative' bit has come, been and gone. None of this guest's fallacious constructs were challenged (in this case, where money spent comes from). Seems to me that 'the media' is at the root of a lot of the misconceptions bandied about. Wonder whether Starmer will do more than Blair did to curb the worst excesses of the media. Given Blair did (*checks memory*) .... sod all, it ought not to be too much of a challenge.

And typical Labour voters are better…. I think not…!

I'm kinda annoyed with comments like this, you focus more on the "in" group and "out" groups. People need to take the time to actually talk to each other and educate other on what is actually happening. Because most commenters are just sh*tposters, people are equally becoming just as stupid.

​@markblance8492 well, you might argue that but at least people who don't vote tory understand that the tories are only going to enhance the lives of the rich 😂 the last Labour government raised the living standards of a huge chunk of the population. The tories have reversed most of that 😂😂😂

@@craigham93 And bankrupt the U.K. it’s the same old rhetoric, Labour spend and tax harder, Tories look to reduce spend and tax less. Neither are right or wrong, it’s the overt swing from one to the other that is the problem. Also looking to increase the standard of living on average by impacting those who work hard, can’t be right….. Getting people into work at a fair salary has to be better than than the welfare state. How about 1. we scrap the welfare state for all those who can work, put them to work in all the jobs we struggle to find people for and pay them a fair wage for it. I would vote for this every day of the month. 2. We pay our nurses a better salary, reflective of what they do and invest in our NHS service, rather than line the pockets of those who don’t want to work and the politicians on both sides which manage to avoid tax completely 3. We stop chasing tax increases from middle England in the belief it improves society and chase tax on the uber rich. 4. We leave pensions alone - Labour managed to collapse the pension market with their taxation on pension dividends. Tory or Labour they are both as bad as each other……! I am amazed however how blind the Labour faithful are. We need something new and it isn’t Sir…. Kiers views of life. However I’m guessing this is what we will get as the Tories are probably just as bad, just in a different way. So UK Politics is broken. Yippee

She can quote Reagan but she doesn't know how funding for local councils works. 🤔

She was a Tory plant. Probably works as a researcher for them.

@candacen7779 "She completely lost me when she quoted Ronald Reagan." - Same. Suggesting her position is, in no small measure, ideological rather than factual... That is unforgiving to me.

#candacen Have ever BEEN to Grimsby ? If not, count yourself lucky. I have.

@@cantin8697 Ohh poor us we were never given this we were never given that, it's all someone else's fault I'm lazy and thick.

Alternatively, she could trot out tired old left wing platitudes and contradictions.

@@kiviuq3495 What tired old Left wing platitudes?

that's how an education system in Capitalism is designed to work. Just smart enough to operate the machines but dumb enough to not realise you're getting screwed

@@anthonyboylan5436 Exactly.

That is very well expressed!

@@AbdulRauf-cq3fv thanks, not mine originally but apt.

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Absolutely. This is summed up in a drawing with a CEO who has a plate overfilled with cookies telling a construction worker with 1 cookie on his plate, to blame the immigrant with NOTHING on his plate. Most important realisation. Greed and selfishness are extremely destructive if not kept under control.

Grimsby? The travel guide for the living dead says"never go their it is far too closed minded"

The only thing they have going for them is that Grimsby is not as bad as Skegness 😂

@@billmitchell7904.The land of the living dead stretches from the Humber to the Thames. It all voted Brexit. .

I had a GF, 20 plus years back, who lived in Cleethorpes (Grimsby's posh bit). I met many of her friends who lived in Grimsby - a microcosm of really decent young people who were fully aware of how shit their town is and how little opportunities there are. Plenty of gammon there unfortunately, but not all and not everywhere. As they say - life finds a way.

@@johnrussell3961 I would say from the Tweed to the Thames

So true

As are the majority of people in every other country. It isn't a uniquely British problem. You only have to look at the MAGAs.

@@gio-oz8gf yes very true.

You could say the same about everyone, _'You may not be interested in war but war is interested in you'_ as Trotsky said.

Totally agree. People are so stuck in their own bubbles and in the 2-party system. I must force myself to read various media outlets, from social media platforms to the Daily Fail and the Telegraph to the Guardian and The Evening Standard, and the Private-showssa Eye and Loca/regional/national and try keep up with various internal news. It’s harder and harder every day, not to stay in my bubble and trying to, if not always, successfully to dig out reports and analyses from p 5. When educational opportunities are scare, and constant battle to food on the table, heat your home and meet your 0:38 loved and family’s basic needs is a Herculean task, some of us just don’t have capacity or the mind-set even to learn and then avenues to change our present (possibly, our future or those our adult children and grant-children from the times to come? I see no party really intersted in our and future generations well-being.

​@Jj-ff9vq that's a mature response 👏

@@Jj-ff9vq wow insults very mature ,you just proved my point ..its sad 😔

​​@@toriesdontgettazered7464dont feel that sad, they're the ones that stay in their isolationist bubble and don't touch grass they're probably the same kind of petson that says labour is "wokey lefty" even though that's a lie there's almost no lefties left in anymore after starmer's crackdowns. It is quite sad the fact those people lack critical thinking skills though.

A 20 something year old quoting Reagan.

@@SirAntoniousBlock Yep, smells like a pre-rewritten line...

@@nigeltrigger4499 I agree completely.

@@SirAntoniousBlock Yeah, it's worrying that simplistic right-libertarian propaganda is resonating among the young. Corporations with no government oversight would gladly leave the Grimsby area to rot. Although living most of her life under the Tories who like to emphasise they're in charge and people must obey more than showing the good that state intervention can do, she can hardly be blamed for being attracted to that quotation.

​@@SirAntoniousBlock maybe she likes the western movies of Reagan....

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Absolutely spot on. She clearly frequents right wing echo chambers. Eventually the lies become truth

@@soviet700 I don't know if it's right-wing echo chambers, but she has a bit of a point regarding government. Past a certain point, you lose hope in government and you'd rather fend off for yourself than expect politicians to fix anything. I know that mindset, because I also have it. I'm not British, so I'm not talking about the NHS, but I'd rather go to a private hospital than a public one. If I wouldn't afford it, I'd rather let an illness run its course and only go to the hospital as an emergency. Anything to avoid the public sector or government employees. It's like I'm hiding from them. I've had a good run for close to 40 years. 😀

No no no, that is the problem with the Left, always passing the buck and blaming the system. Sometimes people are just thick, she's a big girl now she can make her own bed and lay in it.

@@octavianpopescu4776 "I don't know if it's right-wing echo chambers"- before immediately spouting something straight out of a right-wing echo chamber. The state will make mistakes under any party - and a whiff of power will attract some bad eggs - but it *can* be a force for good and causing general fear of, and despair with, government is exactly the Tory tactic they've been playing for the past 14 years and are hoping pays off long term. Profit-driven corporations and charities (which is all we'd be left with otherwise) do bad things and commit errors too.

Yes

That is the winning coment all year long

LOL!

Winston Churchill once said that spending five minutes with your average voter was the best argument against democracy. I suppose now we could say that Brexit is the best argument against democracy.

@@imSatnav After watching this video I REFUSE to date or marry anyone from Grimsby, or anyone who used to live there.

Well good news... deprived areas such as Canary Wharf are getting the leveling up funds they need. And Northern areas such as London are getting additional funds for pot hole fixing following the cancellation of HS2 in the North.

Finland introduced media literacy into its educational curriculum to help students distinguish between relevant and irrelevant information, filter out dis- and misinformation and apply critical reasoning to test facts and fictional statements. The UK could benefit from something similar.

@@ilokiviRead about that. Absolutely no way it’ll be encouraged here. Far too sensible

😂😂 grimsby is a shithole

@blue_tree_meadow "Many people just don't understand I'm afraid." - Yes... A direct consequence of being thick as mince, no doubt...

@@nicadi2005 it's a fair point 😁👍

Yeah fishy rishy dont do poor, in fact he doesn't even do middle class, only the rich and privileged for our current unelected pm

He answered her question then it is whether she takes it in or not 😂

She probably thinks there are millions of native Britons who are fit enough to work but long-term unemployed who ought to be called upon to do all the menial low-paid jobs that rely heavily on migrant workers. Yet, I would bet that if you ask most Tory voters and Brexit supporters they won't be able to name a specific job that they think should be done exclusively by British people themselves. If you name any such jobs (e.g. bus and taxi drivers, hospital and office cleaners, care workers, refuse collectors) and ask them if they have a problem with migrants doing those jobs, they'll say no that's OK because they're not against immigration per se but they're just against uncontrolled immigration (despite their rhetoric about immigrants coming and taking our jobs and our homes, and British jobs for British people).

She's not conflicted. She is an idiot!

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@@pifflepockle Another dumb generalisation. this site's full of them

Would be funny if this was a joke, but I have a strange feeling you're anglophobic.

One report i read was the Grimsby fishing industry was collapsing because the young dont want to be in it,

Places the elderly liked are suffering from the elderly dying. The next lot of elderly wouldn’t be seen dead in Bournemouth .

@@johnrussell3961 Bournemouth is pretty vibrant, busy roads, a busy airport, a big college campus. Downtown is rundown.

Here in the South West I always find it kind of funny whenever Northerners talk as if they're the only part of the country that's suffered as a result of being forgotten by London. No one cares about this part of the country until they want a second home here or if they want a quick and cheap holiday. 'Run down' is the only way I can describe 90% of the towns here, and it's the same all-over the country. There's hardly anyone who hasn't suffered as a result of the Tories in the whole country, not just in London or 'up North.'

To be honest, I had no idea how much control central government had until relatively recently. I was never like her and I knew the problems were primarily in Westminster, but I was still taken aback at just how much control they have to raise and lower the funds given, and how much they used to give under labour. Honestly our system is terrible. For a supposedly laissez-faire loving nation we have a highly centralised government structure.

From where immigrants will get old and apart from the first generation are not particularly fertile and 75% of the worlds countries are below replacement .Its a worldwide problem and only the only logical way out of it is having babies . Of course you can't force people to have babies,but immigration is only a temporary band aid to stem a process that is enevitable all species go through a boom and bust population cycle and we are silly to think humans are exempt from this cycle.

That's the problem in this country when main stream media mainly swings right, unfortunately a lot of the younger generation prob go online and read main stream outlets and it corrupts their minds to the level to the level of corruption in this current government. Either that or the parents are Tory and have a big influence

And it is frustrating that people like this woman do not take the trouble to inform themselves. Labour has done nothing for the North but she wants to move to Liverpool!

I wouldn't say we're obsessed, we just find it interesting, maybe even entertaining. But you're right: politics is a very boring subject for most people. Add to that a general feeling of disillusionment and you get apathy. But I can totally relate to the Reagan quote, not because I'm a libertarian, I'm absolutely not, but because past a certain point you lose hope in all politicians and you'd rather not be taxed and try to fend for yourself than wait for politicians to fix anything. It's a matter of trust and trust has been broken. It's why you see so many conspiracy theories, because a lot of people will dismiss any official sources out of hand without listening, just because they're official sources, i.e. associated with politicians. And the same goes for the media: established media is automatically dismissed. A lot of people would rather listen to some dude in his basement who's just inventing things out of thin air, than a large media organization with actual access to information.

@@octavianpopescu4776 in a nut shell. Have a happy weekend

@@edwardbernthal160 You too. Happy weekend!

It isn't the job of the media to educate people. She has a brain, but she can't be arsed to use it.

​@gio-oz8gf The media is biased in favour of the tories so they do have a lot to answer for.

@@gio-oz8gf NO! The media should hold the political powers to account - Right and Left!

Some may argue that the media shouldn't go against the grrain of politics, because their agenda is to convince people to be worse off. Labour have always meant that we are better off, regardless of right wing manipulation! It is sad that right wing think that they can effect societies moving forwards. The game is up and the internet means that everyone has access to information!

@@gio-oz8gf The problems do indeed start with the education system. Lack of critical thinking puts the ball on the penalty spot, then tabloids and bad-faith actors on social media just have to kick it into the goal.

Well she did vote for a guy who turned up to a polling station without photo ID a policy he created 😂😂

Yep, she a politician, reform or Tory perhaps.

Anyone who has gone down the rabbit hole of Right wing US politics on social media but is too young to understand it's context and consequences.

I know it but I don't vote.

@@keycuz So why are you commenting on a politics channel?

@@SirAntoniousBlock I have opinions. Why are you commenting?

@@keycuz Because if you vote (even if your choice was unsuccessful) you are entitled to an opinion, whereas if you don't vote you are not, you're irrelevant.

... not to mention a professional football team! I see UKIP got 25% there in 2015 so that's something for Reform to aim at.

Absolutely. She's banging on about immigration but thinks Leeds would be a good place to move to.🤣

Maybe someone should explain to her what Reagan actually meant by small government. removing government in people's lives and letting mega rich corporations run the country, which is exactly what the torys are trying to do with their so called Freeports or in reality Charter cities were large swathes of the country are privatized. Something the right wing propaganda she reading doesn't fully explain to her.

Decent fish & chips? Depends what you mean by decent. I remember seeing a video of a Brexit Party activist in Cleethorpes a few years ago eating fish & chips and saying we want British fish caught in British sea waters by British trawlers and processed in British processing plants for British consumers. On the day after the referendum my only Leave voting colleague said cheer up, fish and chips will be cheaper. I asked him why, and he said because our fishermen will be able to fish to their hearts' content, no longer bound by EU fishing quotas, and they'll be able to sell their entire catch in Britain instead of having to sell most of it to the rest of Europe. I presume he's happy to eat herring, which I believe is often caught in British sea waters and is popular in mainland Europe but not in the UK.

Don't worry, we can still import the good stuff from Iceland & Norway, and there are still one or two good fish fryers left in the town. As for catching the white fish that most British people still prefer, that finished in the mid 70's after the final Cod War. Iceland took exception to us plundering their fishing grounds. The "British fish" caught in "British sea waters" is generally of a species preferred outside the UK, and Brexit has made exporting it even harder.

You’re a bit late with your prediction. Vulture capitalism tore the guts out of Britain in the seventies.

The stats covered by the polls prove it was by in large the fault of older people voting for things like brexit and the tories in 2019. The overwhelming majority of younger people vote labour or progressive fringe parties like the greens. Do some research for once in your time commenting on these videos. One individual person isn't indicative of anything. It seems like an English person saying something ridiculous is enough evidence for you to cast the majority of England in the same light. And more proof on this video. One younger person says something ridiculous or is touted as a "average" voter and suddenly nuance goes out the window.

Why educate the workforce when it’s easier to manipulate a thick workforce?

You say dumbing down, but were they really any better in the past.

,,,,or pig poo.

Unbelievable many young people still like them in places like Grimsby because of what they are fed by Tory cheerleading media and headbangers that appear on GB News and TalkTV.

😂 welcome to 14 years of tory rule. Most tories education i think is prob questionable

Heh

Now everyone on both sides of the Atlantic can trace their problems back to those two..

It was Regan that came up with the bright idea of the trickle down economy. In fact it was called Reganomics.

Economics is not science. It’s a religion. It’s based on belief .

The women you are on about is part of the problem, That’s conservative mp Lia Nicci, sooner the election happens the sooner we can get rid of

@@johnrussell3961 Ronald Reagan spoke glowingly in the 1980s of the “magic of the marketplace” while r Margaret Thatcher waxed lyrical about a “shareholder democracy”. Neither really knew what they were talking about. This might seem a rather harsh judgment on two undoubtedly charismatic leaders, but neither understood economics and embraced an ideology rather than economics and as we know from history ideologies are destructive rather than constructive as for example Communism, Fascism and Zionism.

You don't learn Economics in the UK in high school?

@@johnrussell3961 It is science. It's not a precise science like Physics or Mathematics, but there still are laws to it. In Mathematics 2+2=4, in Economics 2+2=more... how much more is a matter of debate, but still more.

Must admit the thought did cross my mind

The script is straight from Tory media HQ

Stood out like a West ham fan in the Millwall home end.

The average voter voted for Brexit in 2016 and the Tories four times since 2010. The average voter is a double-glazing salesman's dream.

@@gio-oz8gf Not the average voter her age though, that's my point

Right, to say she represents the average voter is pure fallacy

Many people vote for Absolute Bollocks - they can't tell the difference from real ones.

Her face when: .O.

Trump dare not say it, but it was Reagan who allowed China to become what it is today. Death by China would never be happening if Reagan had taken action in the 80’s.