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@theflawless8638
@theflawless8638 Год назад
Those who did not make it are destined to pursue different paths. Rejection should not be seen as something negative. It paves the way for new opportunities.
@itzzahh0998
@itzzahh0998 Год назад
💯% agree with you. It is what it is. We can't have all the 8 contestant to be in the group because of the consideration of all the trainers, staff, artist, etc. It's not one person's choice but all the judges.
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 Год назад
​@@itzzahh0998we could've tho, just like straykids
@ch9na
@ch9na Год назад
I dont know why, but Cristina or Gina or even both should've been apart of the group. There was no reason for there only to be 6. No it just feels like there's a whole in the group, the chemistry seems off like there's something missing. Despite that, I hope they had a good debut.
@sanainthesky
@sanainthesky Год назад
Very true everytime I look at the group it just feels like their missing some girls and missing the bond between them
@tosinojo7310
@tosinojo7310 Год назад
its like they lost their soul
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 Год назад
That is bc christina and Gina were one of the contestants with thee most charisma, both of them alongside yuna gave huge stan attractor vibes
@1am2w0k3
@1am2w0k3 Год назад
I feel you so much on that. We were able to see the beautiful friendship between Camila and Christina, and how supportive they were of each other. Both of them were in college and had the same maturity level/bonding. Lexus and Gina also had a cute friendship with each other, those two were always giggling with each other. Gina behind the scenes was fun to watch. Because of their journey, Christina and Gina made a strong impact during the show. I sentimentally wish all 8 debuted. And can't get over how they didn't. I wonder if it's my own feeling of emptiness (being used to seeing all 8 and now their gone) or if these girls still feel it too. Idk. I just know I feel the same exact way you feel.
@9cloudrachel207
@9cloudrachel207 Год назад
the group is 6 instead of 8 because JYP did not want Gina or Christina to debut. people need to accept that, there was a reason he didn't choose them.
@revechae
@revechae Год назад
i honestly have no problems with this lineup. i do think gina or crisyina should be here instead of kendall but im not gonna hate kendall or jyp for this. the girls did well
@KDAx05
@KDAx05 Год назад
It’s a very boring lineup without Cristina and Gina. No diversity, weak rap line, & 2 members are already disliked. I’m actually happy they didn’t debut because their potential songs sound terrible. Edit: I love Camila, Lexus, & Savanna!
@amethystcrystal5799
@amethystcrystal5799 Год назад
​@@KDAx05hater
@KDAx05
@KDAx05 Год назад
@@amethystcrystal5799 They would need to have something I want in order for me to hate them. I just simply don’t see it working out long-term.
@wonder_mckay
@wonder_mckay Год назад
I don't really like Kendall, and I def prefer Gina and Cristina but I have to admit Kendall has more stage presence than Gina and Cristina
@phyre8398
@phyre8398 Год назад
@@KDAx05i thought so too. It's a new girl group from America so they should pick with those strong vocals and that's why I was disappointed when Kendall was picked over Gina. I'm a YG stan and finally I thought I can stan someone from JYP because I have different taste in music but the final results made me change my mind. Anyways, congrats to the girls especially to Camilla and Lexi who are my faves! I'm not gonna support but I wish them all the best! 💖🩷
@eustass4491
@eustass4491 Год назад
I think one problem with this lineup is that the American gp like mature concepts, this wouldn’t be a problem but then you realize that this group literally CANT do those type of concepts because of kaylee’s age
@alyssageline293
@alyssageline293 Год назад
oml ur so right 😭 but i mean it was bound to be this way bc if gina wouldve been in the group its the same case noo
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 Год назад
Jyp forgot this ain't The kpop Market
@dae_da21
@dae_da21 Год назад
Also it’s (unfortunately) normal to debut minors in kpop, but in America people don’t listen to kids/teenagers unless they’re that age themselves. So I don’t think they’ll be popular…
@illunamate_
@illunamate_ Год назад
I think they’ll be marketed more to a teenage audience
@sailorkeyblader
@sailorkeyblader Год назад
This is what I've been saying on my professional page but I got nearly crucified for it. American and other western Audiences especially teenagers don't like cute music. It's not 2012 with Miss Movin On by 5th Harmony.. We're use to sounds like FLO's Fly Girl, Sweet Melody by Little Mix, Heated by Beyonce or Taylor, Ariana, Olivia. We do sexy and empowering music with more mature concepts. The name could be better because Western audiences would be stumbling how to say it. A name like Exodus or something would have worked. Anyway the point is this team has a lot of work to convince both Korean and western markets that they belong.
@jungkookswife3301
@jungkookswife3301 Год назад
I don't mind the final lineup, to be honest I didn't have any favorite, but I agree that Cristina & Gina should've debuted as well. But it's totally useless & mean to insult Kendall just because she was taken & not the other two girls. She worked just as much & in the end it's JYP who made de decision. Now.. Personally, I don't really like the name Vcha, it's boring & hard to pronounced.. Plus to be honest I feel like the group won't be that popular.. Like you said, they are lacking chemistry, & Idk I feel like the hype is gonna die pretty quickly now that the show has ended..
@Alena-cq1ze
@Alena-cq1ze Год назад
Yes, and especially because Kendall didn't take either of the other girls' place. The lineup number was not decided. So if Kendall didn't debut, it would've been five members. Or if they wanted to debut Gina and Cristina, they could've.
@FleuriiBall
@FleuriiBall Год назад
I agree
@mercibeau
@mercibeau Год назад
i have to agree about the contestants that tied them being eliminated really did change the group’s dynamic. i must admit it is really weird seeing camila without cristina. everyone knows those two were besties. and gina was even ranked as most favorited by the other members. but i think it’ll just take some time. jyp honestly should’ve just debuted them as an 8 member group instead of 6. also, for a global girl group, to have their debut stage on kbs and not like an american show like good morning america or something is really odd. but i guess they’re trying to build their korean fanbase to ultimately have a stepping stone into the US. but its just so weird
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 Год назад
Debuting all 8 would just be a slap to the face for mischa
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 8 here means excluding Yuna and Mischa. But they do need more time to train
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 Год назад
@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 her LITERALLY said that they shouldnt compete against each other cause there is no fixed number of members to debut and they could ALL debut
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 Год назад
​@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665how so?
@oscaraguayo8065
@oscaraguayo8065 Год назад
I wish they would have just debuted all 8 or atleast 7 cause I agree it feels like there’s something missing for sure
@butterfliesonmymind705
@butterfliesonmymind705 Год назад
I find it weird how JYP wanted to create an american girl group but still made the group so that it would only catch the attention of korean fans. They do not cater to the american audience AT ALL
@angelsis2222
@angelsis2222 Год назад
So true. Kendall was literally chosen because she has the 'cute' face that korean ppl love. She has no talent.
@mjan3906
@mjan3906 Год назад
Yeah, in the part when they're deciding the final members, he says something along the lines of "this is what Koreans are looking for" which is not necessarily what Americans/western audience is looking for, so I'm not sure why he said that???
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u Год назад
​@@mjan3906he means by korean evaluation criteria which is this group is CONFUSING 😂, because some say they're not kpop group and not American pop group too, even Knetz itself saying they're can't be considered as Kpop, they're not Kpop, so what are they? ngl this is confusing 😂😂
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u Год назад
@bizu775 yup, jyp lack of creativity and vision 🤦
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 Год назад
​@@RIQS-f8uno, the JYPE staff meant that kendall would appeal more to the korean public
@ariesaraya1822
@ariesaraya1822 Год назад
I just wish melissa was there because of how soulful she is with her lyrics and how open she was about her trials. It would've been interesting to have that in kpop.
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
I think she fits being a soloist more than kpop. I hope she's doing well
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u Год назад
sadly, she's withdraw from the Korea evaluation episode
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 Год назад
No shade but she wouldn't have made it. Looking at how that competition went, they would have eliminated her
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u Год назад
@@adorkable7196“they would have eliminated her” Well, no one knows, Melissa's singing ability is top, and because what I read some time ago in the 16 -17 episode video, there were comments from Korean netizens got may reply the point is saying that Melissa is actually the place for KAYLEE now, so while KENDAL Favoritism is there, Melissa can be there too. so By if. melizza is one that helps make this group look like American Group
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 Год назад
​@@RIQS-f8uthey still could've no shade
@kpopmood_
@kpopmood_ Год назад
I was so mad when JYP praised Kendall’s vocals and called it “perfect” it is now so obvious lol, bfr Christina and Gina both deserved way more to debut + I hope Yuna was there too 😭
@monki6304
@monki6304 Год назад
I don’t think Kendall is a hotshot either but no way u shit on her skills but want Yuna there too
@kpopmood_
@kpopmood_ Год назад
@@monki6304 well, I guess I was biased, sorry.
@onceuponamelody
@onceuponamelody Год назад
Her singing is so obviously auto tuned, but the rest of her skills were above Yuna's. But I loved Yuna's personality way more for sure.
@SacredSacral
@SacredSacral Год назад
@@kpopmood_ You don't have to apologize, shit on her skills as you please!
@ngewskakak
@ngewskakak Год назад
yuna was always rubbing her fingers. she was also always ahead of the beat when dancing and singing. what do you expect from yuna, at least for now? i love yuna but she's not ready yet to become an idol
@terreplowell4691
@terreplowell4691 Год назад
I don't think Kendall has strong, stable vocals as JY Park makes it out to be (it's a bit shaky), but she's not the worst singer. Fans hating on Kendall need to chill out though. I think Kendall's strong suit is definitely her stage presence with powerful, eye-catching facial expressions for sure! I believe it could have been all 8 girls though (especially seeing how much Christina improved and how talented our girl Gina is!)
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
YESSS that's her charm! And me too, I wish they all debuted
@CLKuo-dm3yj
@CLKuo-dm3yj Год назад
@@wanishuk6489 +1
@craerae
@craerae Год назад
Then jyp would still get hate for getting only yuna out. People are never satisfied. The current line up is not just jyp's idea.. its their entire team/staffs. The criteria was unorthodox from the beginning.. and its their company so they picked whom they like. I dont understand whats the fuss about. I knew from the beginning yuna is out. Christina or savanna one of them was out. I thought gina was in. But again its their company.
@darklightss_
@darklightss_ Год назад
@@craeraeyeah yuna was always lacking and it always took her a bit to learn compared to the others and atp in the game u gotta be fast and know what you’re doing no hate to yuna this is what i saw, its js sad she improved too late
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I think considering he wasn’t going for an odd numbered group, he could’ve just debuted all 8.
@beepboop9373
@beepboop9373 Год назад
Listen I understand why Yuna got eliminated, and I LOVE Yuna, but she had the same issue over and over again, was not improving as quickly, and honestly towards the end it seemed like she lost her spark and drive and was getting really discouraged. I want to be fully transparent, I did not start off disliking Kendall and do not want to dislike her because one she is a kid and two it is not her fault that JYP is like in love with her or something. But it is so unfair how strict he is being towards the other girls when Kendall keeps not singing in her full voice and she sounds quite nasally. Now this wouldn't be an issue if he was holding all the girls to the same level and critiquing her the same way. But to call her voice perfect when she was unstable or her voice was cracking is really disrespectful to the other girls who worked just as hard and sorry, but did better than her. And its also unfair to Kendall because he's not giving her the critique to improve and she's going to develop this bad habit and the fans will notice and it is just setting her up for failure! I did not see much growth from Kendall overall in the same way I did Yuna, in which they kept repeating the same mistakes and were at about the same level of dancing and singing from the beginning towards the end of the show. The only difference was that Kendall got a lot of praise while Yuna got a lot of criticism, which you can tell impacted both girls differently and ultimately led to the outcomes. At the beginning, I understood what he meant about Gina being somewhat robotic but I really truly believe she overcame that towards the end and that's why I'm in shock she did not make it. Gina was so much fun to watch on stage and she is honestly more talented than Kendall, so the reasoning simply does not make sense. How do you get better when Gina was already starting really high and improved in everything that was asked of her. Cristina was also extremely talented and fun to watch! So my question is, if it's about trajectory should people who are already really talented not bother joining? For example, Camila is already so talented with her voice that there isn't much to improve so in that logic she shouldn't have been chosen because the trajectory for growth isn’t as high as say Yuna’s. I'm not saying I think Camila shouldn't have been chosen but I'm just saying that their reasoning is faulty and they can't justify it because it came down to favoritism and they have always favored Kendall. I hope she has improved a lot and she doesn't get too much hate but JYP all the hate Kendall is receiving is because of you and your inability to be fair and treat all the girls equally. Sorry just had to rant and say my piece lol.
@vedabala7209
@vedabala7209 Год назад
OMG YESSSS I WAS TRYING TO PUT THESE EXACT THOUGHTS INTO WORDSSSS
@keighhht
@keighhht Год назад
Absolutely. Kendall doesn't deserve the hate just because JYP was so obviously bias towards her looks working for kpop. I think he could've worded it better on deciding factors.
@adam711s
@adam711s Год назад
they might work with a younger demographic. the music sounds like something i'd hear on radio disney or something. i don't see myself like being a hardcore fan or anything, but it'll be cool to watch them grow as they get older and more experienced.
@little.rascal.
@little.rascal. 9 месяцев назад
You are definitely a hater!
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
I really don't like how JYP's view on Kendall is attracting hate to her. She's a sweet girl, even comforting her teams. But the ranking decisions are definitely unbiased in every episodes, that I can't argue
@bdh711
@bdh711 Год назад
Yh bc people liked her before JYP showed his favortism blatantly 💀
@sucrelune9675
@sucrelune9675 11 месяцев назад
on en parle du favoritisme de Camila? Et de Kg? ça aussi c'était flagrant... Kg ne savait pas danser du tout et elle est passé quand même x)@@bdh711
@cancelledagain
@cancelledagain 10 месяцев назад
jype immediately realized back then that it was a mistake to let the audience choose the members after Momo got eliminated in Sixteen, so it's good that they themselves chose the members this time. Also the fact that Kendall was chosen number 1 by the literal trainers of the company, it should be a no-brainer that she would be included in the final line-up.
@soobinify
@soobinify Год назад
when I first started watching this I thought that Gina was a for sure member and that she was definitely going to debut so I was really surprised when she was announced to not be in the lineup
@mjan3906
@mjan3906 Год назад
Yeah, especially because she ranked 2nd at the LA boot camp and was part of Topic, the group that won both of the final performances
@9cloudrachel207
@9cloudrachel207 Год назад
as the show went on it became clear to me JYP wasn't going to debut her
@joyjackson9092
@joyjackson9092 Год назад
i feel jyp thought she would stay a trainee and probably felt like he should "save her for later"... but idk if that was the case he probably should have done the same for kaylee. i love all the girls though
@connorstephens7467
@connorstephens7467 Год назад
Cristina’s attitude and heart weren’t in the right place.
@raisaakter7728
@raisaakter7728 Год назад
I personally think the group feels like hollow. Like there is something missing. I felt like Christina and Gina would have added another charisma to the group. But it is what it is now.The group is already formed. I hope the others who were not selected will shine on the path they will take.
@emii36363
@emii36363 Год назад
Christina has the funniest personality of all of them. And I’m convinced it’s because she’s from Atlanta 😂
@moniqueedwards4050
@moniqueedwards4050 Год назад
@@emii36363 exactly, they named the group vcha but left out the members that would have brought shine to the group
@data1509
@data1509 Год назад
Also it’s hilarious savanna and Christina are considered dark skin…😂
@ZombieSushy
@ZombieSushy 9 месяцев назад
lol they flopped hard.
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 Год назад
They should have called the group: A2K. A2K is simple and already in use. Let's not overthink this.
@mochalotte4702
@mochalotte4702 Год назад
Especially since by the end of it the group felt less American because the decisions were Korean-focused. They chose members that would appeal to the Korean audience more, chose an aesthetic and style that wasn’t mature enough for western audiences, chose a Korean band name, and released a pre debut song that was so out of touch, outdated and way too cheesy for modern American pop music, I felt shocked that Republic Records was even involved in this and let that slide. JYP and his company don’t know how to cater to western audiences so they just scrapped the whole American blend idea by the end of it. It’ll just be a typical korean girl group with exotic faces, it’s no longer A2K. Probably why they chose that VCHA bs.
@iamsquidzy
@iamsquidzy Год назад
Kinda upset that JYP didn’t add Christina to the group regardless of her lack of singing ability. She has everything else, dancing, rapping, personality, she glued the group together. And If I’m not mistaken, Twice Dayhun can’t sing either, yet she’s in a group 🤔 why couldn’t they do the same for Christina? I hate to throw race around, but I’m certain colorism was the reason.
@Hotstanna
@Hotstanna Год назад
I thought I was the only one that thought this it’s definitely colorism.
@Kpopscales139
@Kpopscales139 Год назад
This thought also came in my mind once
@ateddybear1392
@ateddybear1392 Год назад
He praised her so much the entire show, ranked her high most of the time. Called her “so so good” multiple times and really, he didn’t even give her negative feedback outside of the vocal mission at bootcamp. Then all of a sudden she’s not good enough
@Thighlicious
@Thighlicious Год назад
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed. Not to compare her and savanna but they’re both black, savanna is a bit lighter than her tho. It was a close battle but Christina ranked higher than her in all the evaluation they did, but in the final evaluation she ranked 6th while savanna ranked 5th. Now not to say she’s not deserving of her position now, cuz she did work harder and improved but so did Christina, but I just don’t think it made sense how she ranked higher than her in those categories and showed lots of potential but then somehow gets ranked lower than a member who ranked lower than her in every other category. And then I just noticed in their debut how they all look significantly more lighter than her, I felt they probably thought she wouldn’t fit in the group because of that. Like idk, what I said could be a stretch but yet again it wouldn’t be surprising, colorism from an Asian company?? 😱
@elle-dd2hu
@elle-dd2hu Год назад
It was clearly colorism nobody can tell me otherwise
@rump3lstiiltskiin531
@rump3lstiiltskiin531 10 месяцев назад
If you check out Boys World. That’s your typical American Girl group out right now. Lighter and sexier choreography with stronger vocals.
@RougeLino
@RougeLino 6 месяцев назад
see that's why i just stopped watching these shows. i just know won't be able to enjoy the group 's carrier if i'm continusly thinking about what it could have been. twice, produce 101/48 grps, kep1er, etc. i see these grps like regular grps formed in a the usual company-selected way especially since they are all rigged.
@jacklyn1999
@jacklyn1999 Год назад
group chemistry can get better over time though
@Kiera348
@Kiera348 6 месяцев назад
This video goes to show why most companies train and teach idols without showing them to the general public is because the general public can be very biased towards there favorite rather then who actually has the skills to be a K-pop idol most people that judge the line up doesn’t even know what it takes to be a Idol or doesn’t understand the training also they are debuting as a K-pop group they work within the K-pop industry within the K-pop genres and style so this video simply goes to show that she doesn’t even know what K pop is it’s a style and mixture of genres mixed with Korean music this line up was mostly good based on there skill but like I said you can’t sit there and be like oh they didn’t do what the fans want cause at the end of the day it’s about there skills it’s about what they can show the world so you who hasn’t lived as long as JY park or haven’t been into the industry close to as JY park won’t understand what he is looking for and we should respect what he is looking for and how he wants To build his company he’s been in the industry for over 30 years none of you have been in the K-pop industry let alone for over 10 years at all let’s stop judging and start respecting the people that have been doing this day in and day our for years and the show had trained professionals so if you think you are a professional start your own show instead and f complaining
@huhhhh5508
@huhhhh5508 Год назад
All girls are great, line up works! But I def thought Gina and Christina were shoe ins :/ Kaylee could’ve been kept as a trainee bc she so young and talented
@hyeist
@hyeist Год назад
I agree, it was robbed, but the girls have talent as the pre release track wasn’t actually bad to me
@bluerox616
@bluerox616 Год назад
Btw, fifth harmony's youngest members were age 15. The oldest was 19 and the other 2 were 16. There's a big difference between 12 or 13 year olds and 15 year olds. But whatever age they shouldn't be in the music industry.
@VizualeyezProductns
@VizualeyezProductns Год назад
How does hating Kendall and KG have anything to do with why Christina and Gina was dropped. I honestly think ALL 8 should have debuted!!! The chemistry between the remaining members that is Vcha is a little bit lacking. Before, like everyone else pointed, there was a lot of chemistry between Camila and Christina/Lexus and Gina. And c'mon, the Back Dawgs had so much chemistry together. They were so much fun. Christina really made the behind the scenes personable to watch. Whether she is alone or with a group. Her reactions stood out. Even Gina was cute backstage. The girls right now are kind of awkward together. Lexus is more out of her shell. Camila seems quiet now, honestly think she should have been the leader (no hate to Lexi). Savanna is shining by herself. Lol. Kendall and Kaylee seem to have a quiet chemistry together. Kaylee is young so she's enjoying herself as the maknae. KG is cute and awkward, which I know is weird but she shines when she gives solo interviews. I guess it will take time. Hopefully things get less weird. ❤❤❤
@gravy9gravy
@gravy9gravy Год назад
A2K seems really gimmicky. I don't see them making it in America or Korea. I'm all for it though. Whatever happens, the girls are having fun and will get to tell their grandchildren about the time they were in a Kpop group. American girls can go home anytime, and probably will. I'm also hoping they form some friendships in the JYPE cafeteria (itzy), and tell them how good artists have it in the US.
@amphibian2982
@amphibian2982 Год назад
So sad about Cristina. She had to much talent, charisma and stage presence all the girls who got in deserved to, but ig it can never be perfect
@xnonhic
@xnonhic Год назад
its sad that Kendall is getting so much hate. y'all need to get a life.
@seanngn2300
@seanngn2300 Год назад
Seriously, some people need to grow up
@blahblahsuperanon
@blahblahsuperanon Год назад
Honestly it's WILD
@Muxik4k
@Muxik4k Год назад
​@@user-ky9tu1ly7p Her voice is like a pokemon.
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 Год назад
⁠@@user-ky9tu1ly7pthat’s not a reason to hate tho. Like yeah criticise her singing skills or jyp’s decision but straight up hating is motherless behaviour.
@fopanck99
@fopanck99 Год назад
Idk why they hate on her she suits the group so well it just would be amazing if jyp added Gina as 7th member bcz I think it was unfair for her to not make it to the final line up 😐 ( Cristina Melissa and Yuna I agree they need to improve more so it was a good decision to not debut them )
@あいこ-x1s
@あいこ-x1s Год назад
nobody got robbed of nothing. cope with reality and move on.
@Mickaelasama
@Mickaelasama Год назад
Me I just don’t understand jYP he wants something to be famous in western country, but at the time he used Korean standard as if they are a group just for Korean, he and his staff which are all Korean choose according to their ‘Korean standards’ not for the foreign audience let’s not lie, we shouldn’t support that kind of mindset jYP and his staff was just being selfish ignoring all of westerners opinions and fans. This is so selfish he took members not base on their dancing or vocal but based on they physical appearance the so call “star aura” which is a criteria he make up, how many American singer in their beginning of their career has hard times to be on stage example Dua lipa ? If you observe dua lipa first concert was not all pink and blue but she improve her stage presence and even dancing skills with the Times, she has unique voice that is why she is famous, hating is wrong so I’m not gonna mention anyone but when you pick a members who can’t sing to me it’s so wrong..
@Resonance1919
@Resonance1919 Год назад
I feel conflicted because I like all the girls and I wish Kendall happiness and success so I'll support her, but I'm gutted about my girl Cristina not getting in... she sang so well in the final mission too, WAY better than Kendall. Kendall legitimately made me cringe w her vocals. I cried a lot when Yuna went home but if I'm being honest her appeal is only her personality and cute qualities. She can do moves but has no sense of beat or rhythm and didn't fix that problem after all the training time. And she's a weak singer. I hope she improves and gets more chances but the reality is she just wasn't ready. Ocerall I'm pretty happy w the lineup. Just mostly sad about Cristina
@beaqi_
@beaqi_ Год назад
On your last video, I commented something about how I was worried the group was going to be seen as Kidz-Bop and yeah…I’m even more worried now based on the Y.O.Universe song and MV. It kind of looks like something you’d see on Disney Channel and just felt juvenile. Although maybe that’s good considering how young the members are. I think JYPE seriously doesn’t understand the American market, especially considering how the English releases from his groups have gone. I’m also kind of frustrated with how Vcha has been treated compared to Blackswan. Blackswan has gotten so much sh*t from international fans calling them Koreaboos but the second a big3 company debuts a “global group” with mostly light skin people, it’s fine? Obviously I don’t want the girls to get hate but it feels like a double standard.
@torrentraisin
@torrentraisin Год назад
kendall, gina, and kaylee should have not debuted, instead they should have been given an exclusive opportunity to become trainees and debut later on
@ngewskakak
@ngewskakak Год назад
i more agree on this instead of hating kendall
@lilliasandia
@lilliasandia Год назад
Agree!!! so they could debut later (im not sure if it's well written)
@wonder_mckay
@wonder_mckay Год назад
Yes.. Kaylee should not have debuted 😂
@maryblack3297
@maryblack3297 Год назад
Gina still debuted. Check out her single Freedom that launched today.
@logunk5969
@logunk5969 Год назад
회사 오디션에서 탈락하든 데뷔조에서 탈락하면 퇴사하는 경우가 많음 그 회사에서는 인정을 못받았다고도 볼 수 있으니
@Zeriki1611
@Zeriki1611 Год назад
Their a2k performance were not so good as other kpop trainees..or shows...
@lovediedin2009
@lovediedin2009 Год назад
dont know a single thing abt this show but a2k would've been a better group name than vcha
@Hellokitty_391
@Hellokitty_391 Год назад
My top 2 are literally Cristina and Gina so.... 😀
@jaeminssocks
@jaeminssocks Год назад
1:42 Usually I’m on board with the viewers voting, however, I don’t think this would’ve worked, because most of the time viewers favor contestants based on their looks/personality rather talent! The lineup would be awful if the viewers were given the option to vote, because we already know yuna be 1st although she’s the weakest link in terms of talent and skills! Personally I have no issue with the lineup (I’m still unsure about Kendall) but everyone else deserved their place/rank! Lastly, I think jyp has plans for gina and that’s why she didn’t make it and I think Cristina’s voice was the main reason why she didn’t make it! Overall, the show was good, and I’m excited to see how this plays out!
@skylersign1736
@skylersign1736 Год назад
It’s speculated that Gina left JYP since she opened an Instagram & just released a song as a solo artist (Gina de Bosschere on YT)
@elle-dd2hu
@elle-dd2hu Год назад
​@@skylersign1736she did leave
@jaeminssocks
@jaeminssocks Год назад
0:37 idk why jyp was thinking! Vcha sounds like someone trying to say visa but with something in their mouth! Also the meaning is so boring!
@ha.2818
@ha.2818 Год назад
They could’ve still succeeded with all nine members similar to twice, they got rid of the members who drew the most attention like Yuna and Christina
@iamsquidzy
@iamsquidzy Год назад
Exactly!
@Hi_Haven
@Hi_Haven Год назад
Yuna was most definitely not ready
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
Christina yessss. Yuna isn't ready but she will improve
@angelsis2222
@angelsis2222 Год назад
Yuna sucked thou lolll
@poufchka1
@poufchka1 9 месяцев назад
@@Hi_Haven Tzuyu was not ready during sixteen and he kept her because she was the fan favorite.
@thejuliazaharchuk
@thejuliazaharchuk Год назад
I like the final line up, the contestants are all different and I haven’t seen a group just like that before. I think they all have great stage presence which makes them fun to watch, the vocals are pretty good too… Wouldn’t say that they’re lacking so much in that department that it would bother the American audience. They all seem very humble and hardworking 🙂 What’s interesting is that they will be managed by Division 3 of JYP (which also manages Twice and JYP) so there’s great prospect there. Overall, I’m here for how unique this group is and excited to hear what their debut single will sound like, looks like they’re going for the youthful and fresh concept.
@mmv7750
@mmv7750 Год назад
❤ if you didn't know, there is a group called blackswan that is even more different and unique
@wadadaqueen
@wadadaqueen Год назад
The name is bad when you pronounce it in spanish... its pronounced as Bicha witch means bug in feminine its also an insult
@EVVENN
@EVVENN Год назад
Personally, the only problem that I have is the name. It may not be that bad to some people but I just can’t understand why would he put them that name when his previous gg’s such as wonder girls, twice, itzy and nmixx are all names that sound way better than “VCHA” if he had actually thought abt this has his most “ambitious” project then he would have had put more thought into the name, especially if it’s a group meant for a global audience. Not to mentioned it sounds like a slur is Brazilian Portuguese and like an insect in Spanish. By the way, spanish speaking audiences are already making a meme out of the name because “VCHA” sounds like bicha, similar to “bichota” which is a slang word for bisexual woman or just something u say when u feel empowered 😭
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
FRRRR, IT'S NOT SUITABLE
@Rainbropp
@Rainbropp Год назад
vcha reminds me of KACCHI :skull:
@Thighlicious
@Thighlicious Год назад
@@Rainbropplol same 😭
@venus9577
@venus9577 Год назад
cristina mortimer shoudlve debuted instead of kg
@vaness77able
@vaness77able 4 месяца назад
I listen to and watch Kpop because they're foreign, and it's intriguing. So, creating an American Kpop group is kind of cringe. The other they I saw them introducing themselves in unison as Korean, and it gives me wanna-be energy 😂
@mydiary9902
@mydiary9902 Год назад
This line up looks like a disney group targeted at kids. i cant take them serious tbh
@milkbread5036
@milkbread5036 Год назад
that's what I thought after watching the music video. It's very Disney Chanel for kids, not global superstars. If they want to be global, they need a more western concept and sound like BlackPink and XG
@norabeckwith6893
@norabeckwith6893 Год назад
​@@milkbread5036no they don't
@aubreysmithson-zf5fj
@aubreysmithson-zf5fj Год назад
I think the lineup is okay in terms of skill level, but it is clear that not all the members have a strong bond. I would have prefered that they keep Cristina and Gina mainly because they bring a lot of energy to the group and it would seem less awkward when the girls are interacting. Also, I feel like the group could have had a much better concept had kaylee not debuted. Because she is only 12, the company cannot have the group do more mature concepts without recieving backlash for sexualizing someone that young. Therefore they went with a school/best friends(??) concept that is not trendy or popular in the media right now. Had the group lineup been decided my the viewers vote I think it would have been way different. For example, kaylee has a strong korean fandom mainly because she is the only korean member, however a lot of international a2k fans refuse to stan her because she is so young. I also think that yuna would have not been eliminated because she had such a large fandom. Throughout the show it was clear that JYP had favorites. The main example of this are Kendall and KG. Sure both of the girls are talented, but I don't think either of them are prepared enough to debut. KG lacks dancing skills but she has strong vocals, however being a kpop idol requires a lot of dancing and she will only weaken the group. Kendall has great stage presence but her dancing is messy and her vocals are not as good as JYP praises her for several times in the show. Overall, the lineup isn't horrible but I don't think they have a high chance of being successful.
@bp-u-will-always-be-famous
@bp-u-will-always-be-famous Год назад
how are u calling kendalls dancing messy when she is one of the best dancers? Also her vocals are better than lexi’s and savannah’s
@acatinthesnow2294
@acatinthesnow2294 Год назад
The Korean community preference response was roughly Camilla/Lexus/Savana/kg..Koreans don't support them unconditionally because they are Koreans. On the contrary, there were many opinions that Korean members should be excluded if they aim to be global
@aniki3856
@aniki3856 Год назад
Your statements wouldn't make sense cuz gina was just one year older than kaylee Kaylee not being there and gina being there would not change much in the concept
@Niven42
@Niven42 Год назад
KG has been dancing really well on the Korean music shows. She got a lot better in a short time.
@arieljw8592
@arieljw8592 Год назад
Yuna should have debuted but Kendall & KG shouldn’t have?…your being biased lol Yuna was not ready. She wasn’t confident in her singing or dancing. The times she showed it was in practices when the members would hype her up, but you can’t look at others for confidence boost all the time. You have to find it within yourself. Not to mention she would always be ahead of the beat. She wasn’t ready. KG improved in her dancing from the first evaluation to the final. Yes JYP definitely had favoritism towards KG & Kendall but they showed more improvement than Yuna.
@thedreadpirateroberts
@thedreadpirateroberts Год назад
Cristina, Yuna and Gina had the most entertaining personalities off stage. Cristina was so supportive and a big foodie which I love. You can tell Gina was really funny. I think those two would have created good content for Vlives, variety shows, behind the scenes, vlogs, interviews etc. Honestly Yuna wasn’t the best dancer but her stage presence was really good. She has a lively energy that’s really attractive and interesting. I also think she has the best visuals. She may not have been the best singer/dancer but she had her own natural charms that would have attracted a lot of fans. I keep saying this over and over again but I really think they should have made two separate groups instead of eliminating the girls. Girl crush concept: Camilla, Gina, Cristina and Lexus. They all looked their best doing SKZ choreo that would be more fitting for a girl crush concept. Group 2 would have youthful cutesy concept: Kaylee, Yuna, Kendall, KG and Savanna. Now Savanna can easily fit the girl crush concept also. I picked her for group 2 cause she a rapper and group 2 is lacking one. Group 1 has Cristina and Camilla who are already good at rapping. To be completely fair I will also add in Melissa with group 1 and Mischa for group 2. Melissa has that soulful voice and her age makes her a better fit for the girl crush group. While Mischa’s age is more appropriate for the cutesy vibe of group 2. I like all the girls and I wish they all could have debuted.
@RoseInnn
@RoseInnn Год назад
Stop riding Yuna bro. Yeah she had visuals but that was basically it, she had no use for the group hence why she didn’t make it to the final stage.
@thedreadpirateroberts
@thedreadpirateroberts Год назад
@@RoseInnn I can like whoever tf I want to like! Stop being a fuckin hater! Wtf is wrong with you hating on a 16 yo?
@sucrelune9675
@sucrelune9675 11 месяцев назад
Exactement à part être belle elle n'arriver pas à suivre l'évolution du groupe, c'était plus un boulet qu'autre chose.. je suis désolée de le dire mais bon, elle dansait pas très bien, elle était malaisante/gênante. Quand on voit l'évolution par exemple de KG qui était une catastrophe en danse même elle était plus sympathique à regarder danser vraiment. @@RoseInnn
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 11 месяцев назад
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed the lack of chemistry in the group. I see people hyping it up when tbh to me it comes across as forced and awkward.
@reveorbit
@reveorbit Год назад
I think if we take a step back and look at the bigger picture of this group and american culture, it’s so clear that they’re not going to be successful. I hope I’m wrong, but the only other girl groups that have been able to hold their own in the american market are TLC, destiny’s child, the spice girls, and fifth harmony. now ask if vcha is on the same level as these other groups… absolutely not
@r_i_ma
@r_i_ma Год назад
yea but the market is segmented with different demographics, let's take that into consideration !
@PRIZM_LOCK
@PRIZM_LOCK Год назад
How can you make an judgment and comparison base on this one song when Vcha hasn't even launched yet lol. Sounds like someone is a hater.
@Staytiny_En-zennie
@Staytiny_En-zennie Год назад
​@@PRIZM_LOCKUmm what's wrong with her making a judgement??? Just because she's viewing her statement of how she feels about it in her opinion makes her a hater?? 👹
@mahdireza5695
@mahdireza5695 Год назад
I honestly think they need more time to shine. Rn i will agree it's not hitting yet and i don't think it will break the worldwide internet, but i can see some sort of popularity at least in some parts of Asia. Anyways another girl group from the US that was legendary was G.R.L. they had full on choreo and super strong vocals!
@kkentaii
@kkentaii Год назад
@@PRIZM_LOCK most likely because their first song is what people will assume they are will put out and the sound is just blatantly kpop that it just does not fit with what type of kpop / western music the west likes. They are no NEWJEANS type of music and they are no Oliva with their music
@bLuGhOsT_
@bLuGhOsT_ Год назад
Kendall is just built better
@Keira_bat
@Keira_bat Год назад
I loved christina's personality the most and she has such great stage presence. PLUS like you said, she was part of the chemistry of the group. The energy in the group feels super empty. Gina, although more reserved, had that fun bright energy as well that is now missing.
@jmkpop291
@jmkpop291 6 месяцев назад
I'm just now seeing this video and I completely disagree. The group is doing well and they have tons of chemistry with each other but I'll focus on the final lineup. JYP picked the best possible line-up if the limit is at six girls. They got the three best vocalist (Kaylee, KG & Camilia), who I view as the best dancers (Savanna, Lexi) and the all rounder member who isn't horrible but isn't better than the other five (Kendall). I won't say Cristina but Kendall had something Gina did not and that was a very natural and charismatic stage presence. It's something that could be taught. I'd say Savanna, Camilia, Kendall, KG were overall more consistence with their stage presence than Gina. And it's not a knock at her but I think her best performances were Know Me Like That and Backdoor. That's two out of the many they did. Say what you want about Kendall but she never failed to deliver on stage and put on a good show. As for Cristina, it's clear their not going for a rap based group but a group that has raps and the skills she brought forth, were covered by other members. All in all, it was the best line up the show could produce. I don't think Gina and Cristina not being in the groups takes away from anything because I didn't consider them the best but I don't think it would've changed much if they were added.
@Musubee
@Musubee Год назад
They remind me of kpop fans cosplaying as kpop idols 😂😂
@LOVER_LINK
@LOVER_LINK Год назад
this couldve been an 8 member group. also if they made kaylee trained a bit more and have cristina instead, their sound will change from teen pop to something closer to itzy
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 Год назад
JYP stans are awfully quiet about debuting minors right now
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 Год назад
I don't like that too but Kaylee does deserve to debut. throughout the show she was ready from the get go. If I were them, I cant steal her chance at debuting
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 Год назад
@@wanishuk6489 So which one is it. Do we not want minors to debut to protect them or do we not want to steal the chance to debut? lets be serious right now like
@Niven42
@Niven42 Год назад
Well, New Jeans (Hyein was 14 when she debuted) has been killing it in the states. Maybe their ages aren't going to be much of an issue.
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 Год назад
@@Niven42 name one non-Kpop fan in America who stans NJ and knows there is a 14 year old in the group.
@Niven42
@Niven42 Год назад
@@amiboacid7183 what does that even mean? If you Stan NJ, then that pretty much makes you a Kpop fan.
@happypeeingdoyoung
@happypeeingdoyoung Год назад
Kendall>>>>>
@onceuponamelody
@onceuponamelody Год назад
I don't really have a problem with the lineup, except for Kaylee being so young and Kendall being so...boring. (I really think Gina's personality was better shown in the show.) I totally agree that JYPE is trying to make the group something that the general US market just won't be into. I do think he's trying to make them more for young teens. Which is fine, but there's really not a big market for that as most young teens just listen to already established popular artists.
@ngewskakak
@ngewskakak Год назад
why do you think kendall is boring? gina showed plain face in the final, she even didn't say thank you for the advice. she also showed boring talent in star quality at LA bootcamp, while kendall impressed JYP with her star quality by her painting and crafting skills. she also mesmerized JYP by dancing "24 hours" and doing great theatrical expressions. that make no sense to everyone who mentioned kendall as "boring"
@data1509
@data1509 Год назад
@@ngewskakaknot here to argue, but I thought it was interesting word choice that you said ‘theatrical’ a girl got removed for “theatrical” faces 😭😭
@zuffin1864
@zuffin1864 Год назад
i kinda get it, because if he can corner the young kid market which is anywhere from like, ages 2 - 13, the kids will grow up liking kpop and parents will buy them stuff. only thing is, spice girls did the mature concept and kids still loved them lol
@mahdireza5695
@mahdireza5695 Год назад
It's true. The teens in the west like "adulty" music most, even the kpop obsessed ones would probably choose it over family friendly youthful music.
@sunnygirlll_2001
@sunnygirlll_2001 Год назад
I agree that JYP targetted this group towards a very young fandom of like 14+ imo. Like imagine, people of 15 or 16+ are obviously gonna be less interested bc they will feel too old for some kids bop concept and Kaylee is too young for them BUT imagine if you're 8yo child seeing this group?? Just like we all crushed on Selena Gomez or Disney channel popstars when we were kids. So this might actually work if he targets the same audience as Nickelodeon shows. Tbh kids could easily love these cute songs and concepts 😊❤
@yinyang6169
@yinyang6169 11 месяцев назад
ı absoloutelt loved chrıstına and ı really dont get it.
@Xits_jojoX
@Xits_jojoX Год назад
Yall will never be happy with anything istg
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 Год назад
Don't worry about skin color that much Nabi, Blackswan is doing very well. It's instead the i fans that dislike their skin color 🙃
@sean7891233
@sean7891233 Год назад
The problem is the god awful name … why couldn’t they just stick to A2K??
@a.e.k8045
@a.e.k8045 Год назад
rip yuna
@itszenny...
@itszenny... Год назад
i think the lineup is okay but we need some more extroverts like the group feels awkward and uncoordinated but maybe they get closer to each other eventually
@Ruby_Spacek
@Ruby_Spacek Год назад
wait whaaat I feel LIKE THEY ARE ALL SO CLOSE I do not get that vibe at all they seem very natural together despite age differences
@TrevorSmith-o3k
@TrevorSmith-o3k 9 месяцев назад
The group name is sus.
@yamamancha
@yamamancha Год назад
They may struggle to capture American fans based on their current content. XG is blowing up in the US for their amazing skills and music that resonates with Americans. They are also mature without being sexy or girly. JPY will need to significantly improve VCHA's song quality if the company hopes to capture enough fans to generate publicity and profit.
@aaron_k4787
@aaron_k4787 Год назад
I have a feeling jyp will make Cristina debut as a solo artist
@oaris22
@oaris22 Год назад
What are Kendall's strengths? she is high rank
@amphibian2982
@amphibian2982 Год назад
I don’t think this is an american group, it’s Korean American K-pop. It’s for overseas K-pop fans, it’s not for general American audiences
@princessameIIiawu
@princessameIIiawu Год назад
Do you guys keep forgetting that Gina is 13?
@akosicvy
@akosicvy Год назад
i said this on twitter but they're probably named vcha cuz shinee was already taken lmao
@K3llsB3lls
@K3llsB3lls Год назад
If the line up was different, viewers would still have negative things to say about the line up.
@sumysim3245
@sumysim3245 Год назад
I personally just don't like the fact that every single member is a minor and that the youngest is 13, if they want a true global girl group, they just shouldn't debut minors. People in the West have clearly advocated for minors not debuting in Kpop and most of the biggest groups from the west are usually all over the age of 18.
@victoriab637
@victoriab637 Год назад
I'm not feeling the lineup or the music. But then again I'm a 20 year old woman so I'm not the target demographic anyway. But I do wonder if all this love and hype around this group pre-debut will translate to actual physical sales and streams. My guess is it won't.
@srideout91
@srideout91 Год назад
What’s wrong with the lineup? It’s a very diverse lineup and it’s only been two days since they booted give them a break.
@maddiej2165
@maddiej2165 Год назад
I feel like Vcha needs a different concept. Like a typical teen girl in West is not into that cutesy, lovey dovey kind of concept. They prefer the Y2K aesthetic (new jeans) or even the grungey angst (olivia rodrigo). I feel like Vcha needs to go in that different in order to gain non-kpop fans in the west. Like do an XG shooting star moment
@akeelahyarris6208
@akeelahyarris6208 Год назад
Fr no hate but Christina dance and sings better then Kendall I just wish she was there in the group
@Bossup20
@Bossup20 Год назад
I feel like Christna wasn't in because of her skin. I mesn most in the group hell. All in the group are really lightskin. Im not rasict, but i just can't get that thought outts my head
@Bossup20
@Bossup20 Год назад
@tasali06 Oh, thank god. I thought I was the only one
@nabicore
@nabicore Год назад
no i got that vibe too
@Bossup20
@Bossup20 Год назад
@@nabicore ikr
@Bossup20
@Bossup20 Год назад
@@nabicore also ONG THE QUEEN RESPONDED
@straytistic
@straytistic Год назад
ngl they feel like jyp ver of kidzbop doesnt feel like music most kpop fans would like jyp is to blame they added so much auto tune basically made them vocaloids
@jujushook5487
@jujushook5487 Год назад
I teared up i think Gina/Christina deserved that spot more than Kendall
@pink101stars
@pink101stars Год назад
I personally think Gina shouldn’t be in the group. She has all the strengths and skills but no emotional connection during her performances. U can tell she’s so focused on her debut till she’s not truly enjoying herself like the rest of the girls. Something about her vibe is off, it’s like she’s hiding behind her mask and not showing her true self. That’s the feeling Gina gives me. No hate but i think that’s what she’s lacking… thoughts?
@ayeshavasquez3608
@ayeshavasquez3608 Год назад
I can’t wait for these girls to prove all You haters wrong 😂
@zoozoo5204
@zoozoo5204 11 месяцев назад
i love gina and how talented she is but i understand why she wasn’t in the group. everyone in the group has a signature skill or talent. kg, she’s always seen with a guitar. kendall she has really really good stage presence and facials. kaylee is the maknae and also extremely talented. camilla is the all rounder which has stayed consistent throughout the whole show. savanna is like the ‘cool’ one and rapper. lexus is a dancer while her vocals are still good. gina was good in everything but she wasn’t the best in everything. she was usually second or third in everything and her place in the group can’t be the all rounder since that spot is taken by camilla. there is not much you can associate with gina. gina is definitely more of a soloist and she will go far. i was devastated that gina didn’t get in but after thinking about it i realised that it’s not much to be stressed about - she is doing well in her career right now. and as for kendall, she should not be getting as much hate as she is. her facials are AMAZING and her dance is great. she’s a nice girl and she didn’t do anything to anybody. plus, JYP liked her bc JYP likes softer voices. her voice isn’t that bad and she has improved a lot. you can’t teach the stage precense that she has, it’s something that just comes natural to her. that was another issue with gina, her emotions. she gives off very soloist vibes and that’s not a bad thing because she will a hundred percent shine in her solo career. a solo career seems more like her thing anyway, since she is so talented. when she was rejected, it wasn’t because she was bad, it was because the group wasn’t a good fit for her. with christina, a lot of people said that she had chemistry with the other members but not to be blunt, but she isn’t very strong in singing. JYP protected her by not putting her in the group as the KPOP industry is very critical when it comes to vocals. she didn’t shine in most aspects. she had good chemistry with the other members but at there end of the day it is a kpop group and they’re there to perform more than they are to film mukbang videos together. if you see kendall’s fancam for YOUniverse, you will see her hair flips, her facials and how good she is at that sort of thing. she gives off idol energy and she looks and feels like an idol. it’s really sad to see people, some GROWN ADULTS, hating on a child for doing nothing wrong but having something that they are too blind to see. it may sound easy to have stage presence, but as a performer myself, it’s extremely difficult to train that and she is just spectacular. it’s okay to like gina and christina and want them to be in the group, but there is no reason to hate on kendall. imagine if you win a race that you’ve spent months practising for, and as soon as you win, everyone starts booing you and saying that those behind you deserved the medal instead of you. JYP isn’t stupid, he’s been in the industry longer than most kendall haters have been alive. trust me when i say that he knows what he’s doing and what he sees. i am a kendall defender until the day i die
@horses4555
@horses4555 Год назад
I knew they were going to debut all the Asian girls. It was obvious.
@Chaotikz
@Chaotikz Год назад
People need to just stfu and let JYP do what he does, he’s been doing this for years, ya don’t know jack shit about creating a team and debuting!
@flipchuu
@flipchuu Год назад
is the favoiritism with kendall so fucking obvious, yes. do i think cristina or gina could have debuted instead of kendall. but that doesnt im going out of way to hate her, and im very proud of every girl for improving throughout the show
@Bossup20
@Bossup20 Год назад
If the public could choose it would be Camila Gina Savanna Yuna Kaylee Kendell
@goldenangels3104
@goldenangels3104 Год назад
justine for yuna and gina and cristian
@_someonce
@_someonce Год назад
if you don't like the line up then don't watch or stan simple as that, geez people petty much? make you own girl group if you think you're the best in making a great line up lol
@kkentaii
@kkentaii Год назад
I think KNEZ are more willing to see the group if the songs were in Korean / more kpop like. KNEZ do enjoy groups like BLACKSWAN as long as they respecting the culture. They dont seem to enjoy XG but they do have their fans so it's more of if they like any of the members if anything which i doubt.
@sucrelune9675
@sucrelune9675 11 месяцев назад
Alors je vais donner mon avis, je trouve que le groupe final manques de quelque chose effectivement, l'alchimie s'est brisé lors de cette final... ça c'est vu sur la tête des participantes qui au final ne souriaient même plus à la fin.. Kg = au début j'aimer énormément son audition, puis au fils des épisodes j'ai vu qu'elle était clairement dans les favoris de JYP, car lors de son évaluation personnelle c'est bien la seule qui n'à pas danser en même temps que chanter, ce que je trouve défavorisant pour les autres et le fait qu'elle s'est placé si haut dans le classement à chaque fois par rapport à d'autres qui faisaient bien mieux je trouvais ça immorale. Je pense qu'au début elle n'était même pas fan de kpop elle voulait juste devenir connue ? Enfin c'est ce qu'elle laisser paraître. Je l'aurais plutôt vue en Solo mais en Amérique. Kendall vraiment très bonne en visuel/charme/acting elle a se quelque chose qui brille en elle! Je ne pouvais pas m'empêcher de la regarder vraiment! Camila, je pense qu'elle ferait une bonne lead du groupe son chant/rap et même danse est incroyable, Kaylee si cute ! Une voix assez charmante, elle apprends très vite, et n 'hésite pas à conseiller les autres grâce à ses techniques, on voit clairement son évolutions au fils des épisodes, devenue très mature vers la fin! On dirait une autre personne, moins gamine. très prometteuse cette petite! Savana je suis très mitigé, elle danse très bien, son rap excellent, ses mimiques de visages son top ! Mais quelque chose m'a gêner vers la fin je ne saurais dire pourquoi :/ Christina ? Je pense sincèrement qu'elle n''étais pas faite pour Ce groupe en question, mais je ne nie pas son talent en danse! Mais le chant... je n'accrocher absolument pas du tout! Pour la final quand ils l'ont mis dans le groupe KG/Kaylee/Kendall elle faisait à part... elle s'accorde bien avec Savana/Camila mais c'est vraiment tout... donc je ne la voyais pas dans le groupe final. Gina ? très talentueuse, je trouve que JYP à était trop sévère et injuste la concernant, à toujours vouloir plus.. si elle n'avait pas été trainee je pense que ça se serait passé différemment.. enfin niveau votes/commentaires. Mais je ne la voyais pas dans le groupe non plus pour la bonne raison que oui elle ne fait ressentir aucunes émotions, c'est la perfection certes, mais froide, sans vie... comme si tout était mécanique dans ses gestes.. ça manquer de personnalité! Et je pense selon moi que c'était ça le soucis :/ Malgré ses efforts vers la fin ça n'a pas suffit.. Lexus! Cette fille à su remonter la pente, la fin !! Slay vraiment, son évolution est pour moi celle qui se démarque le plus je trouve! Surtout en chant. Yuna, pour moi c'était évident qu'elle n'irait pas plus loin. Elle était certes très belle, mais elle ne savait absolument pas écouter/suivre les conseils/elle se rabaisser h24/ à part penser que tout vas bien " je vais faire de mon mieux " pleurnicher, bah elle faisait rien à part être gênante, dans ses gestes/façon d'être, son truc bizarre avec sa langue, se filmer en gros plan sur son nez. Elle n'a absolument pas évoluer jusqu'à la danse avec le groupe Lexus/Kendall qui la ça pouvait aller... mais c'était trop tard elle était trop en retard via les autres membres. Avec plus de temps elle fera sûrement des progrès mais elle aurait eu trop d'écart avec le groupe. Elle faisait baisser les évaluations de groupe. ça se voyait que personne voulait d'elle dans son groupe pour se faire évaluer... elle était un poids pour son équipe on va pas se mentir. Mischa je la trouvais tellement malaisante... désolée mais clairement quelque chose me gêner à chaque fois qu'elle était là! Il y a quelque chose qui n'aller vraiment pas.. Son chant n'était pas si bon et sa danse manquer cruellement de techniques, si raid, sans émotions. Elle était Fade, Mélissa, très bonne chanteuse !!!talent incroyable mais je ne la voyais pas du tout dans se groupe elle était trop dans sa bulle, rien avoir avec la kpop... ça n'avait pas de sens. Puis sa danse laisser à désirer. Elle était clairement pas faite pour ce projet, elle rester trop dans son passé malgré le fait qu'elle dit être passé à autre chose, le but du groupe ne correspondait pas, elle devrait être soliste mais en Amérique.
@tae_na3669
@tae_na3669 7 месяцев назад
Je suis entièrement d'accord avec ton opinion autre que Kg. Je pensait qu’elle a de bonne visuel et va être très cute avec du kpop maquillage. Mais oui j’étais surpris quand elle était le seule qui n’a pas dansé dans l’évaluation individuelle… Que penses-tu de leur début girls of the year? Je l’ai aimé beaucoup et leur chimi devélope. Elles pourront être un noveau succès par JYP
@tae_na3669
@tae_na3669 7 месяцев назад
Je ne parle pas bien français alors pardonnez-moi pour mes fautes😢
@sucrelune9675
@sucrelune9675 7 месяцев назад
@@tae_na3669 j'adore toutes leurs chansons. Vraiment il y a un énorme progrès ! Surtout Kendal je suis si fière d'elle vraiment. Kaylee par contre j'ai l'impression que dans toutes les apparitions elle semble si fatiguée... Jyp lui avait reproché de trop regarder ce que font les autres sur scène et j'ai remarqué que oui effectivement elle se concentre pas assez sur ce qu'elle fait mais sur ce que les autres font.. elle regarde toujours à côté ce que font ses camarades. Kg je n'arrive pas à apprécier son make-up coréen... Ça lui va pas du tout ! On dirait même plus la même personne je sais qu'ils font en sorte de rentrer dans les codes de la Kpop mais ça lui va pas :(
@caradecansada8330
@caradecansada8330 Год назад
i feel like the concept is too teen pop for it to be popular in america and sadly they cant steer away from it because kaylee is so young, which is why i didn’t want gina or kaylee to debut simply because of their age. the chemistry isn’t there yet and so they look really awkward together, but they barelyyyy debuted so i hope im proven wrong in the future
@Niven42
@Niven42 Год назад
Im bored with solo artists. I want the system in the US, they just need to do it right.
@maelt4347
@maelt4347 Год назад
I love this lineup, as a Savanna, Camila and Lexus supporter since the beginning I am happy, but, Cristina should've debuted. The way JYP snubbed her so many times when critiquing her, omitting all the improvement she's had over the course of the show. As for the group chemistry, i think it'll come with a bit of time, you can see when they're training that they get along and laugh a lot, i truly think we will get to see them be like that. I am so proud of all the contestants, and their journey! So happy for the debut team aswell, congratulations on their first music show stage as well!!! Sidenote : wtf is that name, jyp.........
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