Just wanted to say how much I appreciate that even though you got hot/cold right on the first try, you still took the time to take it back apart and show how to fix it if it had been wrong. Thanks!
When I replace a 1225 I also pull out the center stem and apply plumbers silicone grease. Petroleum based plumbers grease should never be used because it will destroy the rubber o-rings.
You really saved me a lot of hassle! Yours was the only one out of all the vids I watched that advised looking into the pipe for debris. Turned out that a 1/4" of the plastic end broke off during removal and I had no Idea. As a newbie, it would have been real fun figuring out why the cartridge wasn't fitting properly. Thanks for the video!
I watched a bunch of videos on replacing a shower cartridge. This was the best it also happened to be the exact cartridge I was changing. didn’t miss a thing. Thank you.
This really helped me. My removal tool didn't fit and couldn't screw in, but just a twisting jiggle with the half moon notches and I was able to tug it out
This was great, thank you! Helped me understand how to use the dang cartridge puller too. The cartridge was still a pain to get out even once the puller had maxed what it could do. Managed to push it in and out a few times. One of the rubber seals must have been binding because it was left inside but got it out with a screw driver
This was perfect! I'm a novice, but with videos like these, I actually feel confident that I can do jobs that would have intimidated me before! I subscribed! Thanks, Tim!
My dad was a mechanical engineer and he always said, "A clean mechanism is a happy mechanism!" So I would have cleaned the barrel piece that was covered with mineral scale before inserting it back in.
To avoid the possibility of installing cartridge upside down, read the cartridge instruction sheet before taking anything apart. There is a little step or notch at very end of stem that dictates proper orientation. Put the new one in the same as the old and hot will be on left, cold on right. Otherwise it was an excellent video.
Nobody is mentioning this so I was wondering if you run hot water for a couple minutes to soften the rubber seals if that would make it easier to pull the old cartridge out or would cause the rubber to soften to a point to cause the seals to break apart causing more problems.
Please don't make the same mistake as me! I mistakenly bought a 1225 Moen replacement to fix my leaky bathtub faucet. In actuality, I should have purchased a 1200 Moen cartridge. I took out the old 1200 cartridge and installed the 1225. It still leaked. After watching several RU-vid videos, I went back to Home Depot and purchased the correct 1200 replacement cartridge along with a cartridge puller. I attempted to pull out the 1225 cartridge and the end tip along with the rubber gasket broke off! Yikes! I have been using long pointed dental tools to try to retrieve the remains, to no success! Help! Do I need to replace the whole faucet now?
Thank you for the video. My application has a metal handle style instead of the plastic knob in your video. After reassembly the weight of the handle brings the valve to a medium position. This makes the temperature too cool for a comfortable shower. Any thoughts on how to increase the tension on the valve? Thank you.
I just replaced mine and noted how you installed the cartridge with the hole on the push pull shaft was facing up towards the ceiling. That's how I installed mine and the hot/cold was good the first time. 🤔 Thank you very much, very good indepth video!
I wish I watched this one first. The others did not explain about pushing the new cartridge all the way in. Because of that, the retaining clip wouldn't go in. So much frustration and wasted time. But using the cartridge puller could have been explained better: extend the teeth and loosen the screw before inserting it over the cartridge. Then screw the screw into the threaded hole in the cartridge. When it's tight, then screw in the big nut CW which will pull out the cartridge.
Thank you sir! Your video showed me how the barrel just pulls out. I wondered about that, It also told me I didn't have to worry about the core alignment for hot/cold. Found my tube of plumbers grease, last used 15 years ago, I also had the steel puller tool. My only hangup was getting the old clip to re-seat, Vertical alignment of the core needed to allow clip to go all the way down. Then I left the barrel out too far, and I couldn't push the knob all the way down to shut off water. It's a 35 year old faucet. I am so glad that Moen designs for longevity,
You're the 3rd and final person doing a video on this topic that I watched! In my case the 3rd time was a charm. Thanks for your "detailed" explanation and "SHOWING" how to do this job! 👍🙂 Follow up: Followed your instructions carefully, and it was "easy peasy!"
I was under the impression you're not supposed to use plumbers grease, but instead silicone faucet grease. There IS a difference. Danco sells a silicone waterproof plumbers grease which is made for non-moving parts that have seals and gaskets. Their other product is silicone faucet grease which is slightly less viscous and it made for greasing moving parts where seals and gaskets are involved. I'm sure you know the difference but i just wanted to clarify for those watching so they don't buy grease for non moving parts and use it in their faucets.
You never told anyone that they needed to shutdown the main to the house if doing it this way. You should also show them the spool and integral shutoffs or they are going to flood their bathroom.. DID ANYONE GET A FACEFULL OF WATER LIKE THIS??? My apprentice got soake the main shutoff wouldn't seel completely shut...
QUESTION! After installing the new cartridge, and pulling the handle out, opening the valve, it gradually pulls itself back in to about halfway. I’ve tried two new cartridges, and both do the same thing… Moen 1225
Great video!! Thank you!! IF the present (Moen) cartridge is a twist on-off CAN a pull on, push off type replace it? Do any of these cartridges get sticky inside with age to where they don't mix the temps right?
I got the damn Moen Kingsley and can't get the handle off. Removed the long phillips head that goes to the cartridge and was able to back off the handle about an inch or so but that's it. The cartridge is def cracked at this point. I swear I've done easier wheel bearings. Hard, acidic well water didn't help. Guess I'll try some heat now. (2hrs) well after a day of prying and penetrating oil, the heat and prying on each side popped it off. Super corroded but I think I saved the handle at least.
I have this type of shower assembly upstairs - your video helped to confirm this - thank you! Can you identify the brand of a valve with the picture of the cover? I have one downstairs that no one can figure out.
I will never buy anything MOEN period. When you need a special puller to replace a moen valve from hell, it's time to stop buying their shiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt.
Perfect video... replaced my Moen 1225 cartridge in my shower today, the old one was 32 years old and started to leak like a sift !.. It made it super easy with the right tools ... Thanks Tim! Also just subscribed...
There are some that say to remove the estecheon cover and others like yours that allow it to stay in place, do you always leave the trim cover in place?
I've got a problem and can't find a video that shows how this valve works. Was called over to my step sons, and he replaced the cartridge, but the shower does not work, no water to the spout. It seems they have been having a lot of black sediment in the water for some time and he changes the valve every 6 months. Something is plugged. Anyone got a solution?
@@steved2510 how can they be no good? They still sell them. I just replaced mine with an all brass one that look like my original one from the 70s. Are there any benefits to changing it?
Great video, thank you! I appreciate your tips on covering the drain and how to address making sure that left is hot and right is cold! When I do mine, I'll take a couple minutes to clean the calcium, etc. off of all the trim parts.
@PLUMBINGWITHTIM First timer here. Just a few things. I prefer the more hefty resistance to the push and pull. I also dislike the ease of turning the knob. Both make it feel flimsy. But, it works fine except for one thing. With the knob pushed in the water is not flowing. That's good. However, if I leave it pushed in, but turn the knob to hot or cold, some water dies start to flow. Some. Not a full flow. But a large sloppy dribble. Any idea why?
I know this is old but it was a huge help - thank you so much!! My only mistake is waiting 24 years (or waiting until it leaks).... I didn't need the tool, vice grips (be gentle & use your mind, not all your muscle) pulling straight out did the trick. The tool is the proper way, no doubt. Either way, easy job and much appreciated!!
Made it so easy for me thank you! Although I changed the cartridge to get rid of the whistling and it didn't help when EVERYTHING ONLINE says the whistling is due to the cartridge and that replacing it will fix it...HELP!
From a plumber in Sacramento. Great videos/instruction. Make yourself happier, buy an ONA Moen cartridge puller with the Positemp accessory. About $70. Saved me over and over again after pulling the stem out but leaving the cartridge cylinder welded inside the valve body. I'm sure you know what talking about. All the best. Rick
Tip: that retention clip has a little hole in it at the head. Sometimes when trying to put it back into place it will slip out of your hands and fall INSIDE THE WALL! So, take a piece of thread and tie it through the hole on the clip....about 12". Then tape the other end of the tape to the shower wall. If it falls into the wall just pull it back up!
Mine was installed in 1975 and was to the point it was very difficult to use and it leaked. My local ACE hardware rented me the tool for $5.00, the good one, not the aluminum one. Had to crank it until all of the threads were used, then a final tug and out it came. Hard part was removing the sleeve to access the keeper clip due to calcium buildup. A bit of WD40 as suggested by the hardware store lady really helped. Now what to do with the old harvest gold tub and dated tile... I must say the hardware store lady pointed me in the direction of the 1225 video version. I used a rolled up piece of wet 3M abrasive pad and needle nose pliers to buff up the inside before replacing the well greased cartridge.
I have a shower with a Moen valve that's 30+ years old. The problem I'm having with it is when I turn it to cold it's hot. If I turn it to hot it gets Blazing hot. It has been that way since I bought the house 7 years ago. I replaced the cartridge originally a #12801 model that isn't made anymore but found out the 1225 works as a replacement. It made no difference. Any one have an idea why I don't get cold water? I'm at the point of cutting sheet rock and replacing the whole assembly if I can't find a solution. As far as I know it may have been that way since it was installed. Thanks for the video.
Just finished replacing a Moen 1225. If you're doing this for the first time it's quite easy. But in my humble opinion you should buy the tool to pull the old cartridge out. Much, much easier. By the way, this was a first for me. If I hadn't watched this video I would have called a plumber. Thanks for saving me beer money.😂
I did this exact job about a month ago, everything worked great. Now, the bathtub faucet is leaking again. And it’s a steady stream of water leaking, not just a drip. Any tips on what I may have done wrong, or what I need to do differently?
I pulled out the old one, and now that I try to put in the new one, it doesn't go all the way in. Could it be that the valve is just too old? No matter how hard I push, the two "half-moons" are still sticking out of the valve. It's the exact same cartridge, exact same size.
Tim, Thanks so much for your clear and succint video on the Moen 1225. I appreciate your effort and time you spent to do this. I have a slightly newer trim but the same cartridge. I spent more time removing the handle than replacing the cartridge. There was so much mineral scale that the handle set screw seemed like it was epoxied in. Splashing some vinegar inside and let it dissolve some of the scale eventually cured that. Then I discovered that the original installer had placed a drop of blue locktite on the set screw. I heated up an old bolt and placed it in contact with the head of the set screw for 30 seconds and it then backed right out.
Hi, great video, exactly what i was looking for. I've a couple of question. My cartridge steam appears to be longer for some reason, but maybe the valve it's not that deep?. Also, I'm having a hard time trying to get the clip off (the one that keeps the cartridge in place) to release the cartridge it's stuck. Any tips and advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Thank you for the great info as it was exact for my situation. I bought the same puller and it worked great. The only thing that held me up was that my 1225 cartridge had a small washer near the stem that prevented the puller tool from fitting properly. After struggling with that for a while I discovered the washer could be removed and then I was on the way according to your instructions. Thanks again.
Thanks so much Tim exactly what RU-vid is great for to look something specific like this issue and find a guy like you knows how to do it and is willing to communicate in such a way that others could feel knowledgable enough to fix it - which I did-thx again Tim.
You’re so right the older version so much better and lost the puller and had to buy new one and it sucks and have broken 2 already, smh Nothing like great tools from good old days!
Great video. I was wondering why my hot and cold was reversed... also, do you have a video of pull our diverter for the shower knob as well? I believe the part is either 1198 or 1394... I am not sure which one to get and how to replace it yet. Appreciate your help
Very Good to Work With You on a Crazy Project this Saturday. And it’s very satisfying one one can solve their own problems and it helps with self-confidence to the max!!! You really helped on this one. Thanks.
I use an automotive brake hone on a cordless drill to clean and smooth the inside of the cylinder. Clean with twisted paper towels or a tampon. I have changed many of these.
This is the only source that helped me with exactly what I needed to see on getting the clip back in and getting the alignment correct. Ty x a million!!! GBU!!!
