The Proud Family Promotes BAD Parenting? 🚨🚨🚨 

In all honesty, I feel like the writers exaggerate stereotypes too much to where the message of certain episodes get completely overshadowed. They also lack having consistency in their character arcs. Since when was Trudy the mean mom? What do yall think?

"you're grown" No Trudy, she isn't grown. She is 14 and a minor. Vulnerable and your legal responsibility. I'm a child who has survived being ditched in dangerous situations and locked out. It's traumatizing not knowing if you'll have a home to go to. If its a young girl there is definitely a risk of being assaulted, murdered, kidnapped, etc. I don't think a show should normalize this behaviour.

What Trudy did was not just child abuse, it was literally *illegal.* Penny should have called the police because you legally cannot throw your under-18 child out like she did. What Trudy did comes across like the reaction of your typical narccisist. *"How dare you disobey ME?"*

The reason for curfews is to make sure your child is home safe before it gets dark. Locking your child outside because they're late to curfew is contradictory. You should punish them for breaking the rules, but punishing them with the same risk of danger you want to protect them from is bad parenting They could've just had Trudy yell at Penny for misbehaving and punished her by sending her to live with Suga Mama instead of Penny needing to take a bus there in the middle of the night. I didn't even come up with this idea. I saw dozens of people say this exact idea

I think to me the problem in the episode wasn't that Trudy was shown to be a bad parent here because it could have been a message for parents to not do this. The problem was, that in the actual episode everyone, even sugar mama said that TRUDY WAS RIGHT FOR DOING THIS. Showing bad parenting isn't the problem. Justifying it is

Even worse this reboot still plays Trudy abusing her husband Oscar for laughs. She's both an abusive wife and (at least in this episode)an abusive parent. I think the scene wouldn't be so controversial, if it had an extra scene of Trudy realizing she overreacted.

I think this episode kind of showcases how much pressure and responsibility Penny's parents place on her. She's often forced to babysit her siblings on a whim, and she's punished for having poor grades.

I'd break a window, let my ass in like "I figured it out."

I don’t like it because teens have died by their parents locking them out one girl was killed by a serial killer because her parents decided to do what Trudy did

Trudy went from a likebale strong matriarch to a straight up abusive mother towards Penny and a straight up abusive wife towards Oscar as well.

What actually got me the most about this was...wasn't Trudy supposed to be the "sane" parent? This isn't just unreasonable; it was criminal negligence.

I have a feeling that Oscar had flashbacks to Suga Momma doing the same thing to him as a teen and that trauma both froze him in place (Trudy being on the warpath triggered him) and strove to help Penny. Especially how Oscar was being used as a negative by Suga Mama, essentially calling Penny useless and worthless. The undercurrent of the episode, in my opinion, kind of explores the family dynamic when golden girl Penny slips outside of her box. Things go left really fast and you see Trudy and Suga Mama being the physical punishment enforcers. Especially when the latter pulled out the belt and heavily implied a butt whooping. I clenched on reflex. I lowkey smirked when Penny, psyching Suga Mama out at the hospital, claimed that she would take REAL GOOD care of her grandma just like she took care of her and her DADDY. Hated when Trudy said "she got her daughter back". She’s still your child Trudy.

I’m not feeling this reboot, Penny had her Sweet 16 in a DCOM and she’s still 14. I wanted a whole reboot with the grown up version of Penny, Dijonay, LaCienega and Zoey where they’re in college and working.

This also happens with the native population here in Canada. You often here tales of girls getting locked out and then going missing in the night. Rule of thumb: don’t lock your kids out. It doesn’t matter what they did. You do not want their blood on your hands

i'll never forget in high school a girl i knew came in one day visibly a mess and very shaken. come to find out, her she and her dad got into an argument and he locked her out, she had no where to go, and had to sleep at a park that night. she was 14 too.

It’s not even just stereotypes that’s straight up child abuse- It’s dangerous for a child, especially a young teen to be out in the street by herself, because nowadays one of the most kidnapped/killed children, out there are young black teens so she could end up getting killed/r@ped especially because one of the things that a parent has to provide is housing, so she’ll be lucky to even make it to Sugar mamas house

It's just a little too harsh. Parents often expect perfection from their kids when they themselves are far from perfect. And so many black parents don't realize that they were abused as kids and continue the cycle, forgetting that their kids live in a different world than they did.

1:20 "And we have a special guest: my cat Kiwi!" Kiwi: *slap* "She loves when I do these videos"

This is such a toxic episode and the fact that people didn't start talking about it until recently is crazy! The entirety of the 2nd season of 'The Proud Family: Louder And Prouder' was released several months ago! The princess party episode was bad enough! The fact that Disney, Bruce W Smith, the actors, and everyone else involved thought that this was okay is absolutely appalling, and Disney needs to retcon this episode as being a nightmare that Penny had! The problem is not just that Trudy abused Penny in this episode, but also that Suga Mama abused her too!

All I Gotta say is that it was so sad, reading the replies and quote tweets from people that went through something like this and knowing that black women and black girls are more likely to get kidnapped, murdered or assaulted when they’re alone makes it even more upsetting. But I don’t think about a petition is going to take the show down also hi Kiwi.

I need the louder and prouder series to get with the times and stop being stuck in the 2000s. The colorism episode was the most glaring issue and hopefully they consider the wide discussion about that clip and do better for season 3.

I have to say that it did lowkey glorify it. Iirc, the episode didn't even acknowledge the overreaction and how dangerous the situation they put her in was. It was treated like it was the right thing to do & it may even make some kids think that this is what they're parents will do to them if they disobey.

I've never been that into The Proud Family, but what I got from this is that Trudy is a narcissist and Oscar is an enabler. PS Kiwi is precious

I’m a white woman, and I suffered from a grandmother whom she exploited her power and expected me to be grateful to only her. She went unhinged on me via spaghetti that my other grandma gave me. Abuse onto the grandchild; she even played numb to me after she quietly locked me out

I feel it's hypocritical to have the line "You're grown figure it out" when she pushes taking care of the twins on Penny. In that she's grown enough to constantly look after two kids, one with autism but not enough to be out past 8:00 pm. It feels like she's only a grown woman or only a young teenager when it's convenient. Also I can understand not wanting your kid roaming the streets at all hours of the night because like you said it's dangerous. But that argument falls apart when you lock them out and force them to do the vary thing you were worried that they were doing. It comes across as less of a genuine fear for their well being and more like them just being mad that their authority was challenged.

Hi Kiwi 😻! The reboot Trudy is more strict than the original, and Oscar disciplined Penny more. I don't think Disney+ thought viewers would react negatively to the exaggeration of strict parenting in Black households. Especially when kids are kidnapped and harmed and there's a lot of missing Black girls and women in real life.

Even Suga Mama’s treatment of Penny felt like gaslighting at times after she treats her own grandaughter like a maid (not saying kids shouldn’t pull their weight but you don’t treat them like a slave) & intimidates her while just ordering her about & then tells her she does it all cos she ‘loves her’ 🤦‍♀️ No, just…no. You don’t use love in order to make someone more obedient. You will need to discipline your kids as they grow up but that’s not the time to throw the words ‘I love you’ into the mix. You discuss that with them when you’re both in a calm state of mind when you’re not lecturing or disciplining them. And I don’t believe it’s fair of ANY parent to expect their older children to be on standby free babysitters - you may choose to have more children but your children don’t get to choose whether or not if they want more siblings. A parent’s kids are THEIR responsibility & if an older child doesn’t want to babysit or change their sibling’s nappy, then they’re NOT obligated to. Trudy should hire a sitter or offer to pay Penny to watch the twins so she at least gets compensation for her time.

I don’t think they promote bad parenting, however Penny’s parents can be overbearing, give her too much responsibilities and I feel as though they forget to let her live as a teen sometimes.

My mother locked me out once because I missed curfew. I couldn't read the clock yet and didn't know much about time awareness. I was staying at a friend's house and her mother brought me home. I was ringing the door bell,begging my mother to let me in. I was sobbing and my mom was yelling at me. In the end I told my friends mother and she basically ripped my mom another asshole. I'm glad she did. I still haven't forgiven my mom for doing this to me.

While she did get bus fare to get to suga mamas, she couldve not even make it there as a public bus in the night can even be MORE dangerous than the streets

It's not just a black thing tho, it's a bad parent thing in general. My white Jehovah's Witness parents did this to me and threw me out of the house for a night not even for sneaking out but bc I got a birthday present from a friend and tried to hide/keep it instead of throwing it away. My sister in law is half white half Mexican and her mom did it to her for going out too.

I personally don't agree with what happened in the episode. I think it should have been handled differently

9:44 I definitely feel that’s the case. They had all the components for a good episode, but execution wise it wasn’t all that great. Trudy felt out of character here. If they showed more of an escalation of things, like maybe she talks to Penny but Penny still misbehaves, then maybe I could understand. But it just jumps to Trudy getting upset. Like she remarks that Penny has been acting up for a month, but there’s nothing to show that Trudy tried to talk to Penny before it got to the whole “locking out” scene. It just seemed like she was mad at Penny up to that point without even attempting to talk to her like she would in the previous series. (Example: Penny and her friends dancing on TV in the revealing outfits, Penny getting influenced to download music, etc). Not to say that Penny was in the right or anything bc she wasn’t, but it’s just…well the whole episode was messy.

I think what happened was that us older people of color experienced a lot of these things, and we tend to joke about it, like "oh i gotta get home or my mom gonna woop me to next week" and younger people who are being rised by us see it for what it is. We don't do it to them mostly so they get shocked that this happens. Im not saying that we gotta kick them out or woop them, I'm just trying see why it caused such an uproar and why the writers we're shocked

Once my sister stayed out much later then she said she would be so when she got home, my mother sat down with her and told her that was not ok and that she was really worried about her. My sister promised not to do it again, Also, my sister was 17/18 (I can't quite remember). I can't imagine leaving a 14-year-old girl out at night, that's awful.

I don’t think I’ve ever felt more grateful to have grown up with lax, malleable parents than right now. Personally if I’d been Penny I would’ve broken a window (that counts as “figuring it out” lmao) but I’m guessing a cartoon didn’t want to show us further abuse. Good video! I look forward to (hopefully) see more about this reboot.

I can't stand Pennies parents im sorry 😭😭😭

probably change the title to ABUSIVE parenting

I'm listening to your voice but I'm looking at your cat dude. I've never wanted to pet a strangers cat more on my life. Great video

I'm worried about Cece once she becomes a teenager.

man, even at 18+ years old I think I’d have a full breakdown if this happened to me, but as a kid it would have destroyed me, I think I’ve had nightmares about this kind of scenario. I know that’s partially because I’m a particularly sensitive person, but it just seems overly harsh, not to mention risky and dangerous. Obviously you need to discipline your children somehow, and not all kids are quite as naturally desperate to not disappoint their parents as I was (I’m kind of an annoying goody two-shoes who cried when my parents so much as gave me light criticism lol- for the record I tried not to cry, and I they definitely weren’t at all wrong to criticize me, I just really care about what they think), but shit happens, and I feel like there are better ways to handle this kind of situation and teach a lesson than locking your child out at night. The whole point of a curfew is to keep your kids from staying out at night, right? So why force them to stay out when they do come home? It’s not only harsh and potentially dangerous but it also goes against the reason you have these rules in the first place. If you don’t want your kids to do a risky thing, then don’t make their punishment be an equally risky thing. It gives off the idea that you don’t really care about your child’s safety, you just care about whether they obey every word you say because you have that power over them.

Great video bro! I see this in many perspectives. I dislike Trudy's personality on the new reboot series. She has a firm but neutral tone. Sometimes she would go off. But this is the "Trudy angry black woman" stereotype. And this isn't just the black community toxic behavior......it's ALL races of color. I heard parenting styles like this creating unhealthy and toxic households. This episode triggered me. So I know for a fact this is backlash because of how Penny's punishment went too far. Great eye opening conversation. Keep up the amazing work!!!

The Proud Family, both the original series and the reboot, have always been a mixed bag to me. On the one hand, you’ll get episodes like the Civil Rights Movement episode or the Muslim family episode that are great and do a great job teaching the history & addressing the issues. And I think the reboot has also made some valiant efforts in discussing the issue like the discrimination queer people of color face and the whitewashing of American history & slavery. But on the other hand, the way Penny continually is pressured by her parents to always be a flawless, obedient child never sat right with me. In both shows, Oscar & Trudy are often very quick to turn to harsh discipline, rather than talk to Penny about what she’s going through or why she should think more carefully about her actions. It’s pretty much common knowledge by now that overly strict/harsh parents don’t raise responsible kids, they raise sneaky kids. The episode could’ve been saved if they’d acknowledged that the parents endangered their child, and even examined how their parenting helped to foster their daughter’s issues.

that Clip alone was totally Uncharacteristic in my opinion of trudy like yeah she was mad at penny For Slacking off but locking her out in the dark at night were penny has a high chance of getting kidnapped or (Something that Rhymes with Grape) was totally out of character and extreme i think Trudy should've soon realized "maybe i was a bit harsh on her" or something cause it looked like on how its presented she didn't want nothing to do with her daughter anymore and by doing what she did Trudy Should've understood that she made a MASSIVE Mistake and Apologize to penny and vise versa

I feel like this reboot actually BUTCHERED Trudy"s character. She was never like this in the original.

I think the episode would have been better if it was Dijonay(?) or the gross sisters getting locked out by their parents as it would have highlighted their home lives because in the first series Dijonay home life is chaotic as seen in the episode where her and penny babysit her many siblings when the parents go out “grocery shopping” and if memory serves this was alluded to in the first series in many episodes that Dijonay babysits her siblings almost every day

Scary seeing that rep because my dad was so opposite. He sat me down before I entered high school and said that if I was ever drunk or on drugs and needed a safe ride home, to call him, that he would not be mad because he just wants me safe. I never went to parties or anything, but I respected my father for trusting me to call him if I was in any trouble. And the original Proud Family show was not like this???

Could have been an oportunity for the mom to learn a lesson. Maybe she got the "lock her out" advise from other parents, but regrets it and becomes guilty after she does it. Her worry for Penny builds as she thinks about what could happen to her daughter and in the end apologises and resolves to never do it again. A lesson in how some parenting tactics shouldn't be standard in any community. Maybe it would have woken up some parents in real life, too

This reboot slash continuation is making oscar look like a better parent then trudy

I had a friend in high school who was locked out of the house by her family for coming home late past her curfew. Her parents locked her out and she ended up going missing...Her parents still have no idea where she is or if she's even alive or not.

I’m so glad you gave kiwi a shout out because I was watching him the entire time 🐱

leslie mahaffy Was also a 14 year old girl who was locked out for breaking curfew.

I think people are overanalyzing it. Yes, this happens to people IRL, but it's being dragged a lot. Penny's parents put too many responsibilities on her even though she's still young. About the colorism episode, I looked it over, and I didn't like it. It was about a dude's preference, and it showed Penny and her friend's true colors when it came to a guy. Oh I forgot, HI KIWI!! 💙

The colorism and slavery episodes were done better than this episode. Trudy just reminded me of my own mom and how she was always at the end of her rope with me or my sister. We're both white and from Virginia and from a pretty low income background. Maybe I am projecting a lot. I might want to find something more lighthearted than this because even though I might not be a girl of color. This shit seems too common.

i don't think they were intentionally promoting bad parenting, I think they were portraying it. portrayal and promotion are two different things. that being said, "death of the author" will always come into effect, it doesn't really matter what they were trying to do, it's being taken poorly anyway. and the fact that it feels like it was played as a joke undermines the serious implications of what they're portraying, leaving it feeling tasteless as a result. All in all, I think they handled it poorly and for that much, it probably doesn't deserve to be taken down yet. YET. heaven only knows how bad they could fuck up in the future.

How you even get the locks changed that fast?!

Realizing how toxic Proud Family show was in general as a adult is…SMH!!

It seems more in character for it to be flash back of Suga Momma doing it to Oscar and Trudy considering it and Oscar opposing it

Okay, first off, your cat is legit the cutest damn cat ever (besides mine!! Lol!!). Moving on. I understand Penny's position. You said that this, kicking your children out, telling them to "figure it out" is a very common black experience, and I want to preface this with: my mother and father are not black, and obviously neither am I (but I could be adopted or something else, so, clarifying I'm not), we are white, but my mother grew up in Detroit, and then moved to STL, and both parents legit one of the worst neighborhoods you could live in in STL. Like... to the point, where when you say, "X street & Y street, and we went to Z high school", people go, "oh shit, you grew up in the hood hood." My point is, I've never seen this w/other white parents, being 100% honest, so, I wonder if it's a socio-economical & cultural experience, which is a very long discussion in and of itself, which is why I'm using those terms. I just wanted to say though that, I 100% have been where Penny has been, and.... it sucks ass. Even more so when you THINK you can rely on your parents, and they've told you, "should something happen, just come to us/tell us/you can confide in us" and then you DO the thing and then they outright just... basically, abandon you in that moment. It's no bueno. I think that's odd to create a petition for that though... that's just... how some families are. If people think that it's promoting bad parenting, like... idk, why can't they go raise money for something that helps children in Penny's position? It seems like virtue signaling, IMO. I've said it before and I'll say it again, The Proud Family reminds me of actually growing up with real things. Like, it's as if they are real stories that the creators have been told, and they were like, "we're going to make an episode about that." I think that's one of the reasons I enjoy, and have enjoyed TPF, because I resonated w/all the characters. Nah, let TPF continue, and people boycotting it is.... IDK. It seems super weird, cause, I've never seen petitions for white shows to be cancelled, and I'm like, whhhyyyy are people targeting TPF?? IDK... it has a weird vibe to me, one that I feel is.... different... and I'll be honest, it seems like it's a bunch of racists being racist, OR, people who are not racist but don't want any negative parenting on the television. I'm not about saying "no" to that though. Cause life isn't all sunshine and daisies (even though I wish it were for everybody). But, as you said in your pinned comment, it is out of character, but, on some level, sometimes I feel that moms go out of character. ALSO!!! What if she's going through menopause? Like, I know that sounds ridiculous, but when my mom went through menopause, holy. goddamn. shit. It was like godzilla rose from the sea and possessed her, and some parts of him still remain in her. Fire breathing dragon, and you are never sure when Godzilla is going to come out and use lasers to destroy you lmao. Anyway, love your videos!! Keep up the great work & have a great day!! Peace!

I for one feel that the show is promoting bad parenting. It hits harder caz it is a black family. Caz in the the community we make it okay to punish our kids in a severe way. I say this from experience from coming from a black family, that think it’s okay to hit or verbal abuse there kids. I right now am in the process of moving out of my family as we speak caz of getting very physical with me.😞 I feel that this stereotype needs stop and for black families to learn how to properly ground and punish there kids. That it’s OK to lovingly ground your kids.

I love Kiwi. Pet her for me

The only time I missed my curfew, I was 18, and hanging out with my boyfriend. I instantly called my mom told her I lost track of time, and was on my way home right now. I got home and all my mom said was “maybe we should change the curfew to a check in”.

I say this as a black person. Black parents need to start taking their children's safety and mental health more seriously

This could have been an option for Trudy to really come down hard on Penny, scold her, teach her about the dangers of staying out late as a young girl. Maybe they could have given Penny an implied close call with getting abducted or something as the nail on the head moment that drives it home for her that her parents care and that the world can be dangerous and the curfew is there for her safety. Something like that.

I def think Penny’s parents took this a lil too far. 😰

That is abuse. No arguing, no counter, its abuse. she locked a 14 year old girl outside of her house, now what happens when a preditor kidnaps her, or when she gets hit by a drunk driver. worst case scenario Penny is dead, best case Penny has tramua and will not come to you for help at all. The father was a good dude for that, his wife would yell at him, or worse from what we can tell if he let penny in so to keep both of them safe he gave her money for a bus, WHICH THE MOM DIDN'T EVEN OFFER, and told her to head to suga mamas. So you have a 14 year old girl who instead of feeling she can tell both parents anything she feels she can only tell her dad certain things, or else her mom could lock her out of the house

Locking your kid out of the house is the wrong thing to do. The bare minimum of your job as a parent is to provide food, clothes, shelter, education, and safety. Even though I'm a demographic that would be considered ""safe"" to lock outside at night my parents would have NEVER done this. Penny is at a higher risk of being a victim to a violent crime in America. Her mother should KNOW this because she grew up as a black woman too. If this episode handled this right, sugar momma would have called Penny's mom the second she showed up at her door saying she got kicked out and ended with her apologizing to Penny. (Unless she wanted to be vindictive and pretend that Penny never showed up at her house last night resulting in needless worry. Toxic but gets the point across). TLDR don't lock your kids outside.

who calls their parents when they lock you out of the house for not coming home at the right time? you are suppose to break into your own home. not sure about you, but it is like a challenge to get in the house. as far as i remember one window was always unlocked, so that once you figure out which window is the right window and figure out how to get into it, the parents are right there to lecture you while you are still a bit humiliated for having to crawl though a window to get inside.

Reminds me of that movie The Dutch Diggers Daughter. Girl snuck out but when she tried to sneak back in the dad nailed the windows shut and told the siblings not to let her in.

What also pissed me off was how they sent her on a bus, in the middle of hte night, across town to her grandmothers, and the grandma threatened to use a dog leash on her (doing the belt snap) saying “I only do this because I love you” thats just… that hurt

If Penny is grown like Trudy says, then she should be able to make her own decisions. An example would be Penny telling her parents to hire a fucking nanny for the twins

They locked their 14 year old daughter outside. At night. No money (except for bus fare, which isn’t a lot) Nothing but the clothes on her back and a cellphone, with no way to charge it. Yeah they’re definitely in the wrong. Should’ve grounded her, taken away her phone or something. Locking your kid outside and expecting them to fend for themselves is abuse.

I love how Trudy changes the locks on her when she doesn't come home on time but constantly encouraged this behavior by allowing her to do things such as call Oscar by first name as if that's not her father. In a true black household you could NEVER call a parent by their first name its a respect thing. Its funny tho because now that she's locked out NOW she calls him Dad

I personally belive that writters didn't mean to promote bad parenting, but like you said the way they go about ended bring out unfortunte implications they likely didn't forsaw.

The writers I feel like they are using the stereotypes without noticing that it will be very debatable so every time something negative in the proud family louder and prouder reboot comes up somehow he gets to be a debate. This is why the series is failing at Disney+ Penny and her parents do not have a good communication just like normal parents to try to communicate with their children Oscar proud he’s not just goofy he doesn’t know how to man up and Trudy proud she does not get support from her husband of course Oscar proud doesn’t help too much in the house he always stays at home and comes up with different entrepreneur ideas that never helps the family Even if they were black mothers who did that to their kids is not the majority of those black mothers death left their kids outside during the night and never bothered to let them in the house to punish them or to ground them into for a bit their device their phones or banding for playing video games for an hour it is a cartoon butHe needs to make sense how are you a present a character because characters they were present people so this is why it’s important how we should be portrayed and not to put these negative stereotypes like this is the majority of black people have the way they act or how the way they are and how they carry themselves

I love your videos. I've been a fan of the proud family since I was a little kid.

Honestly leaving your kids outside is wrong on so many levels

Honestly I feel like what Trudy was a matter of control, not care for penny. “I want you home. Your not home. Now you have no home.” Curfews are to keep your kid safe, Trudy doesn’t care about pennys safety, she cares about her being under her control and listening to her. With abusive parents it’s always about control and power, never actually care for the child’s well being

Whats messed up is that there are lots of kids who have been kidnapped and killed because of situations like this where the parents would rather act petty than actually parent their kids. Media we consume contributes to the normalization of behaviours and norms and when people dismiss things like this as "its just a kids show" it potentially leads to bad ideas and abusive cycles perpetuating.

I personally do think it was a form of bad parenting. A neighbor did this to her daughter and she was almost snatched up. Thankfully she run into my yard and banged on my back door. She was only 15 at the time and was only late for curfew because she missed the last bus after her Soccer Meet and having pizza with friends After that, i was just disgusted at how parents could do this to any child, especially in this climate where kids are being snatched. And now with white supremacists going into black neighborhoods and unaliving us for simply existing.

What were the writers smoking when they wrote this episode? Everybody but Suga Momma felt like a different character entirely, and Trudy's "tough love" was unhinged and unconscionable! Here's how it should've gone down: Penny gets increasingly fed up with the myriad demands at home and at school, and also wants to spend more time with Kareem, so she starts to rebel. Trudy and Oscar try to rein her in to no avail, and Suga Momma offers to let her stay the weekend. Then, the episode proceeds largely as before, with Suga Momma showing tough love, getting hurt, and needing Penny's TLC. They could've also just had Penny act like kind of a brat and start to rebel, and spontaneously reel *herself* in when Suga Momma gets injured and needs help.

I remember thinking as a kid that Trudy was overall a good mom. Firm, but had grace. I don't recognize this Trudy in the reboot. However, being raised in a military family, I had the exact same punishment as a teen who stayed out late, difference was there was no yelling, just silence (which is actually more effective). Disrespect the parents, I wasn't worth a response from them.

A girl here in Canada was murdered this way her parents wouldn't let her in because she always came in late she was kidnapped by paul Barnardo and his wife i know her parents regret this every single day

They made it seem like they had a big time skip but it had only been a year... like technology advanced that fast? They 90's kids but all a sudden they gen z? She still in middle school.. bffr

Speaking from experience as a black women, theres this unspoken animosity and jealousy from our mothers. Obviously not all but theres more than enough for it to be a serious problem in the black community. A common experience as a black women is that your mother is your first bully. For those that never experienced this, thank your mother for not giving you mommy issues.

Awww your cat is so cute. At first im like what is that moving in the background😂

Drama aside, anyone else notice how Trudy ended the call basically with her mind? 😂 like no effort to move her arm to the phone or nothing just an angry glare was enough I guess lol

I remember the episode of the original Proud Family where Trudy gets overwhelmed with work, and then, as anyone understandably would do, she gets absolutely frustrated and chews out Oscar to get him to help out more. Although it’s played for laughs here and realistic to how some parents feel sometimes, she didn’t make Penny at fault. She even said, she HAS TO and WILL take care of her children. What I’m trying to say is the writers did her DIRTY here. Trudy would NEVER go this low before.

What I disliked about the original and the reboot (that made me only watch four episodes between both series) is that even though the show was written and created by black people for black people, the dynamics and issues they play around with are extremely negative and never fixed, just used for “haha, my family does that” humor. I’m Hispanic and my community has its own toxicity and “my family can be hilariously mean” moments, but I don’t think that a show meant to uplift specific generations should ride on objectively awful family happenings. Jokes will only serve to make the children in the target audience think that problems are supposed to be laughed off and not addressed.

I love your Hey Arnold shirt! Where did you get it from? Kiwi is so adorable! 🥝🥝🐈🐈 This was another insightful discussion Tony. 🥰🥰❤❤

02:16 Locking Penny out of her own home is soooooo out-of-character for Trudy compared to her level-headed 2001 counterpart. Wasn't Oscar the overly-protective, yet irrational parent in the original 'The Proud Family?' Even then, I can still envision OG Oscar merely grounding Penny for her disobedience rather than implementing such a rancorous action against his daughter.

That shirt is lit.

I think during that episode. Penny could have let the mom know why she was late to arrive home in the text. She has a phone, use it. Just to avoid punishment. My parents would be mad if I was not home at a certain time without letting them know. It's not fair to the parents to remind thier kids.

Did Judy forget what time period she in? This isn’t ancient times where teens under 18 were legally grown.

To be honest, Trudy (& maybe Oscar) could face legal action/consequences. If Penny told Sunset about what happened...

Oscar is just as guilty. He did not stand up to his wife's insanity, he just put a bandaid on it. He could've just, you know, let his daughter back into the house. He's not the good guy parent here either. He's just an enabler. Leslie Erin Mahaffy was MURDERED by Karla Hamolka BECAUSE she was locked out by her parents.

Idk I lived with my grandmother when I was a kid I came home late and door was locked, I knew better than to just pound on the door till she answered so I just slept in the shed out back. I never came home late again.

This scene made me so mad, not like in the typical way cartoons do but like in a "I want to write a strongly worded letter to the show staff" way. The situation is so messed up and the fact its portrayed as a good thing baffles me. Even ignoring the obvious risk of Penny getting hurt, kidnapped or WORST, what does this teach her exactly? That the moment she's late she can't come home? That the moment she messes up, she can't rely on her parents? My mother simply yelling at me when I was little made me so scared of her I wouldn't tell her anything cause I was scared of how she'd react, if my mom pulled this? I'd lose all trust in her then and there forever. Pennys parents aren't "teaching" her anything, they are guaranteeing she'll cut contact off with them the moment she turns 18 lmao

I feel like they could have kept the screen with Trudy in but added something to show how bad Trudy's choice was, such as another parent finding Penny or police and addressing it. Yeah, I didn't experience that and I think that it is valid since it did happen. But there should have been some kind of catch to open the conversation that what Penny did was wrong but also Trudy is approaching it wrong. They honestly could have just had Sugar mama come over and yell about everyone being wrong like they did before.

The word “discipline” comes from the word “disciple” being to teach the word discipline use to be associated with something positive to positive teach someone to do something not punishment so no hitting or kicking you’re child out is not and should not be called discipline.