The Queen’s Educational Concerns | The Crown (Claire Foy, Victoria Hamilton) 

I guess she would’ve had to defer to her husband’s wishes on that, and defer to the royal household after he became king and Princess Elizabeth became the heir. I’m only speculating, but hopefully someone with more knowledge on this subject could contribute

She was a woman of a rather obscure noble house in Scotland. She expected to marry some obscure title gentleman and have children that would eventually be sort of upper-middle class nobility in a world that was becoming more modern and it was not uncommon for nobles to be working adults of business etc. She thought her education was sufficient as she was expected to housekeep and be a lady but also have enough knowledge that she was still on par with a mildly educated common person. She stopped at O levels i believe which is really basic maths, english, sciences and some history which her family as nobility would be more educated on. Nothing much beyond that. But when the abdication happened, her and Bertie probably thought it would benefit Elizabeth to be taught MORE important things like the constitution and how to be a lady cos as Queen she'll have to sit and smile and host people. Not be a minor noblewoman who probably will marry a man who runs a business and is a noble of some rank and she'll run his household and raise his children and maybe get a small part time job for funsies. While still being a sovereign who basically agrees to everything Parliament does. They didnt think she would need to be more educated than that. Probably a mistake cos Elizabeth's general knowledge was lacking. But thsi is also the Royal family who is so out of touch that they thought Margeret's beau was not suitable despite how Tony Jones turned out to be and forcing Charles to marry a woman so young and green that she was basically just chosen cos she's pretty and she was born with the right family name.

@@KoiYakultGreenTea She was educated by governesses at home and then sent to school--which was unusual. She passed the O levels (like a US HS diploma) with merit and at 13--3 or 4 years earlier than normal in both GB and US. Any further education would have been disrupted by WWI. I saw a program on "American Princesses". One of the women interviewed about British heiresses of the time spoke about her aunt who was "educated" by a governess who walked the girl around the garden, having her introduce a new topic of conversation at every large bush. Evidently the most important thing the student could learn was how to deal with boring or silent guests at a dinner party.

@@csm92459 yes she was more educated than usual but it wasn't wwi that stopped it. That's just the max they could go for a woman of her time and station. And I aw that woman was the inspiration for violet in Downton Abbey. But yes basically that's the extent of their world. Hosting and raising children. Elizabeth expected much the same of her own daughter. And then when abdication happened they sent her to Eton college for lessons in constitution.

No, the Windsors are dumb, they couldn’t make it at oxbridge, they never made it out so it never came out that they went

Nothing subtle about it. She was a dolt and a drunk, married/born into privilege. This is exactly the tv show we'd expect her to watch.

Or not so subtle 😂

Big time

Indeed

Subtle ??? 😂

Mary did it anyway over their objections. Usually when they were away.

Yes but just because that’s how she reigned doesn’t mean other kings and queen can’t do there own thing the queens grandfather King George v did and so did her father he doesn’t have to do what his mother did and sometimes the sovereign does know best he wears the crown he’s crowned in an abbie anointed by god a prime minister is just elected like a president it’s the sovereign stop trying to diminish the power of the crown because your are anti monarchy and grow up they can make and do decisions they just have advisors to advice them what to do in situations

He can certainly use his position to raise awareness and advocate for causes. And there's nothing stopping him from raising private funds for environmental and social impact. That's what the Prince's Trust does now.

She consulted and advised too, as her Prime Minister's learned, and used her consent to debate laws as needed.

why is it in quotes? everyone has problems, no matter the class rank.

She did 3 languages - French and German. Did war work instead of sociology. Her father thought travel, life exposure and on job training would do it gradually, but he died too soon. Her mother thought being Queen was like her own position and she'd received a similar background. Problem was, QM was a consort and QE2 was the reigning monarch - 2 VERY different jobs. Would be nice to have QM point out "your father only did 1 year at Trinity College".

She should curtsy if she were on her feet. But it is not expected of a lady to stand up when someone of higher rank or a man enters the room.

That's her mother, Queen Elizabeth may have been THE Queen, but the QM was still her mum, and that ranks any sovereign title in privacy. In fact, a lot of decisions were made by the Queen Mother like forbidding Charles to mary Camilla and the arranged marriage with Diana

Yes, she does, but she didn’t like it. You can tell from episode 3, when she kind of bow after queen Mary does so

​@@jdcienfuegosThat's fiction, do you have proof she didn't like to bow in real life?

@@enzodemarchi5990 I don't have any proof right now she didn't want to curtsy to her daughter, but it's widely known that QM retained a lot of the Queen's jewels, for example, and didn't pass them to Elizabeth until her death, which can tell you something about how she could feel about being outranked by her 25 years old daughter. On the other hand, it is said that Queen Elizabeth never expected her mother to curtsy, so that can also tell you that she rarely/never did (mainly in official public ceremonies)

do get a life 😑

Dude this was the 60’s not the 21st century.

Hit the books and write papers 💀💀 this was 1953 not 2023

Don’t forget….this scene was played for drama. Who knows if The Queen ever spoke to her mother about her education?