The Railroad are the Worst Main Faction in Fallout 4 

The fact that they are essentially killing the synths they liberate with mind wipes as well as dooming their race by destroying the institute their only means of procreation speaks of their moral gymnastics and lack of brain power. Also if they give a shit about non synth slaves I sure can't tell they supposedly did in fallout 3 but that appears to have evaporated.

basically the boomers if the elders died

@@thegermanfool8953 Are you a millennial?

@@Shushkin go play FNV, before saying anything else.

@@thegermanfool8953 It has been a while since I played FO NV. I do not recall the Boomers having any ideology aside from being hyper isolationists bombing anyone that came close to them.

It's literally only Preston that's a minute man

Also they would probably feel more similar if you met Garvey immediately after the quincy massacre The railroad JUST had their HQ raided by the institute they were probably in disarray

@@soullessvoidpixyincarnate4277 yea thats true, they both start out fairly similar. But by the end of fallout 4, depending on how you play, the minutemen have a fortified command center, several large farms supplying food to other settlements, newly established bunker hill caravan routes, wide artillery coverage, and fire support on standby. On the other hand, the railroad is still hiding under the church, with a single new safehouse established since you've joined them, which really doesnt matter since they still lose multiple other safehouses throughout the story

@@soullessvoidpixyincarnate4277 the Minutemen were probably better off right after Quincy than when you meet Preston, there was another Minuteman with him until probably earlier the same day and he mentions suffering heavy casualties as they traveled until there were only 5 left.

They existed but waited for a new leader. Then they start reappearing and you end up woth Ronnie or whatzhername in the castle. But yeah lol. MM surrounded by raiders and they somehow were better organized and off than the RR. After you give em breathing room they even help give you PA a minigun and fight a deathclaw considered a late game enemy. RR want you to with deacon or more than likely solo to infiltrate an old hideout former government intelligence bunker and then blast your way out of an area full of synths.

Oh I just know yaboiii is going to heart this 😁he loves Caesar quotes

@@rejvaik00 Same

Average leagion L

@Bucket o' soup Darth Vader: "Nooooooo"

@Bucket o' soup "it was said that he would heart all legion quotes not ignore them!"

It would have been badass to fight off a BoS attack at covenant

@@mrchunky5132 Tactically, I see your point as to why that would be fun, but wouldn't Covenant be more likely to be at least somewhat friendly with the BoS and such? I would think it more likely that you'd need to fight off Institute synth attacks and root out Railroad infiltrators. Perhaps you'd eventually be able to seek help for Covenant from either the BoS or the Minutemen.

The Covenant/Railroad rival minor factions thing sounds like it would have been a great idea.

@@mrchunky5132 it would be but I don't think covenant and the BOS would fight since they both hate synths. If anything an alliance between the two factions is more likely

@@David_Alvarez77 The minutemen could've also been a lot better if they scaled with the player and could actually get stronger and make alliances with smaller factions

dont forget that the railroad is blowing up the only way for synths to reproduce i dont think anyone would find the thought attractive to be one the last synths out there

@Friendly Neighbourhood Sunwheel It always bothered me that the Railroad seems to value synths as static objects rather than living subjects. It's as if their real objection to synth exploitation is that it perverts the human form or something. Surely if you actually believed synths are thinking, feeling, beings then you wouldn't delete their memories and destroy their only method of reproduction, right? With no knowledge of their own nature how many synths will suffer, confused as to why all their loved ones are growing old and dying while they stay unchanged? Without a way to replenish their numbers, how long until the attrition of the wasteland drives them to extinction? I highly doubt this hypocrisy is intentional, however. I think it's probably just bad writing.

@Friendly Neighbourhood Sunwheel It's interesting that the fictional work credited with inventing the word "robot", Capek's R.U.R. (1921), was really about the creation of organic beings similar to synths or Blade Runner's replicants. Anyway, at the end of R.U.R. the robot factory is destroyed, but it turns out that at least one female robot is able to give birth naturally. So the idea of artificial people giving birth (which BR 2049 stole) is actually very old.

@@truenorth1997 the Railroad's an advocate for Synth freedom; not Synths as a species. Just because someone treats Ghouls equally doesn't mean they should irradiate humans to make more. I'd say the memory wipes is hypocritical if you don't think the wiped Synth matters. They're still able think, feel, form new memories, etc.. What makes Sturges matter less than Glory? I love when people call a compelling flaw in a faction "bad writing" only when it's a Bethesda game. New Vegas can have the NCR tripping over its shoelaces or Lanius not understand the concept of overextension and it's perfectly fine.

I'm at that point now where I have the option to kill the railroad's leader...this may have made it a little bit easier I'm tired of seeing the cursor above her head every time I go to railroad hq...

I believe that’s Proctor Quinlan’s cat. They’d probably survive the Prydwen going down though, cats always land on their feet

@@SorowFame thats like saying a cat can survive an airplane nosediving into the ground because it lands on its feet. completely irrelevant because the craft is preventing you from falling in the first place

@@Blox117 a cat would survive a nosediving airplane because they always land on their feet, I don’t see your point?

@@SorowFame it can only land on its feet if its falling. you arent falling inside a plane

@@Blox117 cats have 9 lives my guy

I always thought that since you can become the new head of the Institute, you can create new policies and ban making synths or replacing people, etc. Maybe create policies that can secretly help the commonwealth and still remain secretive. A hidden hand for good not evil. Could have easily, and should have logically been an option.

Given the way they reacted to finding out Danse was a synth, they could do the same to the BoS. Replace a few, drop false information about the leadership and set off a civil war. I know it would require rewriting some late game options, but I'd also like to go to Piper and tell her about the mayor as an option to finishing the courier quests for the SRB. It would cause the Institute to turn against you, but so do several other choices.

Honestly if u were a BOS member I don’t think they’d care as long as u were in charge. Cuz the institutes technology would be under brotherhood supervision.

@@golobulusjenkins754 they tried that once. It failed. Epically. Iirc the broken mask incident led to the fall of the CPG, but the synth in question wasn't supposed to be on the surface in the first place.

The whole "creating a synth replacement of leadership" thing kind of happened in Far Harbor, where Dima can replace the leader of the Children of Atom with a less insane synth version

I feel like the game gives us plenty of examples to show Synths are more than Deathclaws or weapons to be used. Paladin Danse, Glory, Nick Valentine, H2-22. The Synths of Acadia (minus DiMA) all the synths that are openly oppressed and treated like tools in the Institute. They may not be human, but they’re intelligent beings. Genociding them would be just as inhumane as making them in the first place.

​@@Pylon.Boi03 I can see you point here but let's look at this from the average wastelanders perspective (without looking at real world connections) as nick states after you free him and talk to him for a little bit " they were cautious and weren't accepting, but I think the fact I didn't try to hide what I was helped" then we also have the piece of dialogue talking about the synth massacres, there is vague knowledge of synths which are usually regarding them as a death omen and for good reason. You could argue that since Valentine shown himself as a good guy there's ample reason to trust synths. However it's a gamble of long odds, for the wastelanders knowledge who's to say they aren't acting as the good guy? What if they have technology that can take control of them again like some rc car? What if they get re-programmed( like in Terminator) for synths there is no guarantee they will be nice. Yes the same thing is applicable with humans but you must remind yourself that 1. From the very beginning synths made their first impression by slaughtering wasteland leaders. 2 synths can be shutdown or changed just by audible command, 3 kind of like with the bad batch in star wars you don't know if their chips will suddenly kick in out of no where and they'll start a rampage again, and while yes almost all the synths we meet with free will are nice even we the player can't guarantee it'll stay that way. when I defended the railroad faction I was met with an interesting comeback " you can't believe a printer or a video game character when it says I have free will, it might just be reading off of a script or be AI generated" that's just my two cents though.

@@Tove5th I see your point and I get why the average waster has reason to be prejudice to synths, but I feel like the fallout community also holds this same prejudice. And I just think it’s weird that so many people just disregard the Railroad. Personally I’m a sucker for the Minutemen but if I do a Minutemen play through I try to include the railroad because it gets you more time in the institute but also because I feel like a big message of Fallout 4 is what makes a human a human aspect. And I think although the synths aren’t human, they do have humanity and I think it’s weird that so many people seemingly disagree.

@@Pylon.Boi03 I think for the most part (which is something I'm arguing with someone in another reply section about) is because they're too reckless and don't care about other if they get to free a few synths. My main point on this is blowing up the prydwen when it has children and civilians in it without even trying to evacuate them and then the battle for bunker hill quest. Which ends up strengthening prejudice to synths from wastelanders because it gives the narrative from an outsider perspective that everyone else is just a stepping stone for their goals

@@Tove5th I guess I see that perspective but the Brotherhood attacks first and they also don’t give any Railroad members a chance. And also from the Railroads perspective killing a synth is the same as killing a human, which depending on circumstances I don’t disagree with. And brotherhood is also shown to be better equipped Raiders as depicted in Fallout 4. And it’s also kind of weird that Brotherhood even has civilians and kids on their warship so I feel like it’s kinda on them. But I guess I see why people might turn a blind eye to that fact as I’m sure a lot Fallout fans have some level of bias/nostalgia for the brotherhood. Especially people who grew up on Fallout 3

Maybe not supermutants, as Bethesda treats them as ogres instead of the supermutants of more classic fallout.

The number of Super Mutants worth saving is like 5 across the entire franchise.

@@Sousabird in the second fallout there’s a settlement of super mutants and humans and ghouls although a flawed town. Then there’s also the super mutant village in new Vegas too. Another thing is that apparently Bethesda like to treat east coast and west coast super mutants are different types of mutants.

@@igfj9241 I always figured they were, as in the more aware ones are the ones created by the master or close to his time. The current SMs are a product of the dimmer ones being the only ones that reproduce with the green stuff. Kinda like a super mutant "Idiocracy'.

or just a faction that's purely against The institute. unlike the everyday Commonwealth folk the railroad is actively going against the institute stealing their synthetic machines to study them or use them against them. something like the minutemen.

Thats why I loved Nuka cola expansion, want to be a raider warlord, go ahead! definitely had me more entertained than the other expansion that I can't even remember the name of, that one was aesthetically cool, I liked all the fog and marshy landscape but was utterly bored with it at the same time.

@@DaniBlue787 Far Harbor does have its pros, but it is dialogue heavy and has that awful mind puzzle of Dima's memories. I much prefer Nuka World and Automatron.

Should have made the Gunners a joinable faction. Would have been better than the Rail Road.

@@xbigbooshx4643 same the memories are awful. Thank god there is a mod to disable them tho

The railroad shouldn't have had an HQ. Desdemonna, Drummer Boy, Tinker Tom, Doc, and Glory all should have had different safe houses hidden with a handful of staff. Putting them all in on small room really is what showed how pathetic they are.

And we all know suicidal, super atheists don't breed. 😂 That's why they where making robowifus.

I still remember seeing the quest to blow up the prydwen. My roommate was going railroad, I went brotherhood. So I just kinda saw him do the end of that quest and was like "...did you like join an evil faction or something? Cause you just killed children." Finding out it was the railroad soured me to the entire faction and never join them on any playthroughs. I don't think any brotherhood fans (self included) think bos is sqeeky clean. It's incredibly obvious they have serious issues and are by no means the good guys. But I kinda draw the line at painting a faction as being good guys, and then giving you a mission where you murder children and it's not only presented as a good thing, no one even acknowledges how messed up it really is.

​​@@Montross4440 But the robowives COULD breed, given that they had human DNA and everything. So the institute being like "hey these reproducing, based-off-the-DNA-of-our-leader have no rights" makes even less sense. Like you'd think Shawn would have SOME qualms about what's technically his own children being used like this

@@geraldposter1496 They may not have known there were children on the Frydwen; my first playthrough was Railroad and *I* sure didn't know. It's pretty insane to tote children around on your military aircraft so it's not unreasonable to simply assume there's only legitimate targets there.

@@geraldposter1496to be fair doesn’t the brotherhood attack them first? I can’t remember what happens in their storyline but in the brotherhoods you attack them first as well as kill them for no reason other then “they could get in our way”

NCR? I don't remember Vargas briefing me about them

@@Braindamagedpotato The NCR are quite well know in the West but it better to just know the name then the actions of that group

@@Braindamagedpotato Wasteland W

@@willothewisp4939 ye

Sorry but there are no slavery,slaves and slave traders in Commonweath because this is a modern game

@@iWinchi So we need the legions to move east?

there aren't any slaves in the Commonwealth.

@@razorburn645 that's if they still exist lmao

I also find it super weird that they actively fight against synth exploitation when literally human slavery exists. And yeah the Commonwealth maybe has no slaves (I'm not sure about that, there are hints). But the Railroad is also in DC, where slavery exists fine and dandy.

The only reason they wouldn’t wipe out the railroad would be the railroad is so ineffective that they can’t be bothered to spend resources to deal with them. Father sends you after the institute as a test to further prove your loyalty, and Maxon has it as a sideshow to do while they fix up liberty prime

@@teamfossil6312 They are legitimately an afterthought, lol. Like clearing out some ferals from one of the subways.

That's not really fair - the Railroad is the only group the Sole Survivor _should_ work with at the start. You need to get into the Institute. Well, the Brotherhood has other objectives, and the local farmhands straight up can't. But here's this organization that literally does nothing but focus on the Institute - like you. It's actually a no brainer to work with them over everyone else at least until you meet Father. The Railroad is honestly the most reasonable faction to start with, specifically _because_ they don't really care about the commonwealth. _You_ don't care about the commonwealth either - you care about getting your son out of the institute. Everything else makes you go "why are you doing these side gigs when you have to get to your son?"

@@xbigbooshx4643 I will agree, it is reasonable for the Sole Survivor to work with the Railroad. But that's only due to the fact you have an ulterior motive (That motive being urgent entry into the Institute). No other members of the Railroad display the same level of personal motive. At an individual level, the priority is preserving Synth 'life' over human life, which remains unreasonable. They are even willing to die for their cause, making it seem even more insane. While so many people struggle to survive in the face of radioactive hardship, the Railroad seems to ignore it all to essentially accomplish moral redemption, which isn't a practical motivation. The Railroad has no vision for a society nor the means to build that society. They have no grasp of governance, objective reasoning skills, or a legitimate chance to survive & thrive.

Wouldnt the practical reason be... roleplaying/personal choices? Like how most RPGs will give you a lesser reward for doing the good choice over the evil one.

Most of the trail is from the pre-war, maybe they were hoping that’d throw people off? Not sure how no one would notice the fresh paint used to mark the ruined segments. Also who painted those? My bets on Drummer Boy

@@SorowFame they also go around telling people to follow the freedom trail

@@leonrussell9607 “hey, follow this obvious landmark to find our secret hideout. Also, pinky promise you aren’t Institute?”

That’s something that always bothered me too. All it would take, is one courser to notice and they’re done.

Another thing that a recent mod brought up is the fact that the Railroad HQ is very close to the ocean and below sea level. In the mod in question, you destroy the railroad with 3 placed explosive charges. 2 seal the tunnels going in and out of the HQ while the 3rd destroys the sea wall, flooding the HQ in minutes.

Railroad don’t ask you to kill Nick Valentine, fuck the blades I’m never killing Paarthurnax

@@johnnyboy3410 Fucker did commit some aweful warcrimes, no matter how much he did help the nords (I don't believe he taught them to shout, that was Kynes doing). The blades to have a point, now do they explain that point well, no because you would have to go and talk to esburn during a specific part of the main quest. Delphine is still a shithead that does not change.

@@johnnyboy3410 you remember that time Paul atriedes used the voice on that priest from the old Dune movie, i did something similar when she told me to kill Paarthrunax, shouted her off sky haven temple.

@@johnnyboy3410 naw but they ask you to kill chadonious maxson.

@@johnnyboy3410 I remember how strange that conversation was. After giving me what I wanted, she tried to tell me I needed to kill paarthurnax. I remember asking myself at the time, "What reason have I to do this?"

Just realised how dumb that was. Yeah sure it shuts down one of the Railroads main stations but Stockton is still alive as far as I’m aware and he’ll probably get his network running again quickly. I don’t think the Brotherhood or Institute even occupy Bunker Hill so the Railroad could still use it even if they have to wait a bit first for everything to settle down.

And they show up with a couple dozen people in heavy armor and gauss rifles. But send the one asset who managed to get into the Institute to take out a courser and risk blowing your cover.

Fun fact in all of my playthroughs I’ve never done that quest. BOS quest line doesn’t require it.

@@SorowFame the player gets the settlement and I am 90% sure the player faction has people guarding it or trading same with Diamond city open peaceful relations by trading and protecting them gains foothold eventually they will ask for a nearby place of operations to be set up by doing that you just gained major power in the area with zero bloodshed to the target and minor to non for the player faction

Makes plenty of sense. What all is there to gain from a bunch of people sitting around and doing nothing but chatting and drinking coffees? Unless it leads to something important later, it can be deemed a waste of time.

It makes perfect sense, interesting and likeable characters put into a shallow and lazily done faction

Thank you! I keep hearing that they're uninteresting when it's more that they don't have a real role to play in the story. They have a linear, and very minor, path that they can't deviate from, all while having the most charismatic people stand around all day! It's really sad that I remember H2-22 before a fucking synth companion-

Again, that is what is so great about them. Their entire plan is small and petty, which means it doesn't get too much in the way of my own plans. Literally every faction makes me do things I don't want to do, but the Railroad does it the least. They don't have to be interesting. They just have to stay out of my way.

Railroad worst faction in fallout. They get massacred first thing as soon as i reach boston Des: we are the railroad Nate: yeah yeah yeah thats nice (spams jet , psyco and loads double barrel sawed off and commences with the blasting) Then i take all their body bits and pile them up infront of the stupid robot and ask why she couldnt predect this before turing her to scrap Literally never got past the first mission with the one guy and i only do that for the deliverer Dumbest faction / people in fallout ... and theres raiders who will attact a dude in power armor with a pool que so thats saying a fucking lot

Pretty sure there’s a mod for that lol. Which renders the RR entirely superfluous.

why not go out with a toaster then

Honestly I agree. I feel like they let us down big time by having the Institute be the "evil" option it would've made so much more sense if as a faction you could change and shape its future as the story plays out, especially when Father says you're gonna be the new leader of them

@@georgerockwell149 "Subversion," I think the mod's called. I find the writing for that mod to be pretty bad, as it hinges on every faction being a pushover, and the some of the arguments given in the speech checks are horrendous, like sparing the Railroad in the Institute questline.

No, because then it'd be like, what, 3 people are pro-Synth in the game - the Binets and you? Nobody would treat the idea seriously. And when the Institute's personnel depend on Synth labor to maintain their facilities, why would they do that?

Deacon and ballistic weave are the only redeemable features of the railroad

All that’s left of the cool spy stuff is dumb code names and simple chalk markings. Really disappointing.

@@ijneb1248 And the Deliverer. Single-digits AP per shot? Count me in.

Wish you could keep deacon somehow as a companion after you decide to kill the railroad. Dude was awesome. I could see him being a spy in the institute wearing synth or courser uniforms.

@@autonomous_trash Yup... I wish we didn't ever see the Railroad. (or at least, hardly at all). Keep it all super spy-type of play. We don't know who they are so if we fail we can't give up that information. At some point we might meet Deacon and Tinker Tom (and no one else) and both of them should be huge revelations in the game that we ACTUALLY met someone. But it would have been cool to try to investigate people in settlements across the commonwealth, maybe some do dead drops or escort missions at night that we can spy on and follow...maybe if we poke around their homes we find stashes of clothes, weapons, ammo, meds, etc... maybe we find some tapes or books that contain coded passphrases and that we could, if we investigated enough, actually solve a puzzle to find the HQ. But nah. let's like... stumble right to their HQ and just be allowed to walk away despite it all being SOOooOOOO secret.

Apparently the memories are traumatising or something, at least going by that one synth you escort, and it supposedly makes it harder for the Institute to find them if they don’t remember being synths. I don’t think either of these are good reasons to practically kill someone but there are reasons given.

Yea it’s hypocritical of the railroad to even wipe memories but the synths choose to have their memories wiped, they are not forced into it

Not to mention that when you wipe someone’s memories you’re essentially killing them by erasing what makes them…them!

Agreed. I'm willing to bet there are raider camps with more dead scavengers or traders laying around then the total amount of synths you save by the end of the game.

Why do you have a complete lack of empathy my guy? Synths are basically human. I don't see them as any different really. So why should I have an issue with a group that seeks to equalise us?

@@henrikfitch4017they literally wipe their personality and memories when “liberating them” 😂😭

​@@henrikfitch4017 killed the civilians and children on the prydwen, complete disregard for all other life if it means one synth gets freed etc. that's my reasoning, yes their goal is noble but their actions are not justified

@@Tove5th The Prydwen is a military base for a group conducting genocide on the people the Railroad wants to emancipate. They are entirely justified in blowing it up. It would be like putting child soldiers on a battleship and then complaining that your enemies still attack you. That's on the BoS, not the Railroad. The Railroad simply wants equality for humans and synths. Humans aren't being persecuted and murdered simply for being human, synths are. Synths NEED more help than humans. Also, the Railroad shows willingness to work with the Minutemen, they very much do care about people, their goal is to bring synths to the same level as people, not to bring down people to synths.

That’s pretty much Arcadia in far harbor

far harbor did a better job going through this concept

P much far harbor. Cept deacon would make sense since it would credit his reason of Bad to synths then sythn waifu killed by others who were like me back then.

Well Glory is a synth, if I remember right…and I think Deacon *might* be one…but I’m fairly positive I read somewhere the Glory is in fact a Synth

It makes way more sense could also lead to more quests about consolidating your factions win

I don’t understand why you have to destroy the Institute in 3 endings at all. I feel like that should’ve been the bad way to resolve the final quest. New Vegas gives you the option as Yes Man to destroy the dam, but it’s painted as a completely moronic option (as it should be).

Why would they do that? As long as synths stop being made, the Railroad's end-goal is actually achievable. If Synths are just being produced forever, their intended goal can never be met.

The Railroad cares only about freeing synths. They don't want to make more.

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I use them for resources purely. They're the ONLY place you can keep getting stealth boys from. The knowledge of making armored clothing items as well makes them incredibly useful to do some missions for. But yeah, their overall scheme is pretty silly. They're not really serious about anything.

I hate how much they try to push the institute as the "evil faction." Your character almost never mentions the fact that your son's the director, or that you yourself have been made director. That alone should change the other factions perception towards the institute. Honestly the best ending of fallout 4 would be you siding with the institute and allying with the minutemen, since you now have advanced technology available and the commonwealth has both a strong militia as well as a robot army supporting it

I would LOVE to assign tasks to Preston. That guy is a pain.

Playing the uno reverse card on Preston would be a baller move. There better be a mod out there that lets you do that. I'd pay money.

The problem I think that happened was he was making all these outstanding side quests but they needed help with the main game bad (low personnel, lack of ideas) and he helped them make the story for the RR but he is better with small quests that have a very bold but insignificant story change. so the RR questline was created and was so 2D and with no real ending that goes well that they become redundant as a main faction! That’s why all the characters in the faction seem very fleshed out but very linear

I think it was also they shoehorned RR in at the last moment as a key faction. It's most likely it was a side faction that he frantically had to fit into the main story when they wanted a fourth faction

@@Caragoner Makes sense considering half of their missions are 'Recycled' (literally exactly the same) as another faction (Institute). It made including them as a main faction a lot easier. They were always likely planned to be included in the game as a faction because the F3 Quest mentioned them however.

I really wouldn't be surprised if business got over on creativity. As in, Bethesda may have said, "nah, we need guns and boom booms... pew pew..." I truly think the Railroad would have been a really cool secret organization that we don't even see for most of the game. Like a true covert spy type faction. Imagine we don't get an intro of blaring lights and miniguns pointed at us with someone yelling, "WE ARE THE RAILROAD!" ya know? Instead, maybe someone (Tinker Tom) hacks our Pip-Boy and we start getting coded messages. Maybe we find a dead agent or a dead synth with a note. We hear people mention them like we do in Diamond City, but we never actually see them other than through these messages that lead to quests. But we don't know who we're working with. We as players could investigate people and try to piece things together as we go learning a little more each time. People running secret stashes, or doing dead drops at night, talking in coded messages, escorting synths, etc... we learn these things by playing instead of having our hands held and for the faction to play just like everyone else with really no difference. To me that would have been a real change of pace both for a faction but as to playing the game in general. Really get the whole paranoia thing going.

Aw, rip to Ferret, he just passed away.

Doesn't that kind of shoot the railroad in the foot, as soon as any real divide starts to happen such as the argument if 1st and second gen synths should be freed they'll start to turn on each other, "a house divided cannot stand" - Jesus Christ/ Abraham Lincoln

Yea

Deacon is a synth…

​@@randomguyontheinternet8345 existence precedes essence

​@@randomguyontheinternet8345Nah, i just killed him earlier and he didn't drop a synth component

I mean Des will probably tell you that the Institute is rotten in every angle besides the synths and that it’s moronic to believe that unless with a strong show of force and a take over of the place, the Others will decide to happily let you radically change anything. However that’s still a problem on the game for not having us have a moment where she explains why it won’t make a difference.

Thank God a Weave mod exists.

Yeah, Ballistic Weave is the only reason to do anything Railroad related. But what I like best about it, it can be acquired without effecting your rep with the Brotherhood or Institute if you wish to do those as a playthrough instead.

Or you can just get a mod that gives you it

@@pawhunter340 You can yes. But looking at from the vanilla gameplay aspect, you have to take the Courser Chip to the Railroad anyhow during the main quest line. So, may as well do stuff up to that point for Ballistic Weave, then dump them.

The gunners could be a Nice faction but I guess Bethesda thought it was enough with one militarized faction with the BoS

@@elektra8535 The Gunners would have made a better choice, But I think an all new Faction all together would have been better. Or even a brotherhood civil war.

@@elektra8535 they should have leaned even more heavily into the Arthurian pseudo-medieval style for the BoS and made the Gunners cold war era soldier of fortune types.

@@Historyfan476AD that would of made alot more sense because sus things have definitely happened to the brotherhood since three like it would of been cool if danse wasn't a synth but accused as he discovered something he shouldn't have

@@azeria1 Yeah but this is Fallout 4 where good ideas die, and more exciting stories are told as backstory and not allowed to be experienced.

Ye, the MM and RR are the only factions that are the morally sound for the most part

I dont think this guy understands what a power vacuum is. The commonwealth was dealing with two problems the horrors of the wasteland and the institute, neither the institute nor the bos were governing. The bos didnt even show up till after the second act and the institute saw the commonwealth as expendable

@@lolpo423 the minutemen werent governing either, they tried to get a federation of settlements but that wouldnt be governed by the minutemen themselves, they were just the muscle same as the bos

@@zikkimeister215 exactly, so the institute being taken down without bos takingg control of the commonwealth is a very viable option. Especially seeing how bos treats anything non human

Cause no one else cares about synths, if they expanded their scope it would be impossible to get anything done especially with their numbers.

Expanding the scope of a group of that size is inefficient, they wouldnt get anything done. Headcannon is theyd apply the same values to ghouls, friendly supermutants

Plus you'd think they'd have a civil war due to even their own members having different ideas on how far they should go to liberate Synths, some might even use their previous attack as an example.

The closest we can is with Burning Cover, where the Minutemen are a sort of shadow army of the Railroad.

Also both are based of of groups that formed during wars in American

Kind of a bad comparison. The Followers are group that are basically the opposite of the BOS. They gather knowledge and share it to teach people or help people in general. They would probably assist you in fighting the Institute if they somehow were in FO4. They help you take down the Master in FO1 after all

Nah, the followers are a rather enlightened group of altruistic people, focusing on healing, keeping and sharing knowledge and essentially increasing the quality of life for as many wastelanders as possible. The railroad specifically only wants to save synths. And are somehow vying for control of the commonwealth.

Followers are like salvation army dude: railroad are like Peta but worse

Naw the followers are actually useful and not stupid

Cry about it

@@ijneb1248 What the fuck are you doing? My brother died at the Battle of Hoover Dam. You’re desecrating a war memorial.

pretty much.

Unfortunately, due to Bethesda completely neutering the RPG elements, the only viable playstyle is tech superiority.

Sound like the Minuteman lol

I found it a bit too obvious they were sentient, roomba’s typically don’t try to escape from their owners so clearly synths have individual desires such as freedom. And that makes the Institute look incredibly stupid for not either realising mere machines don’t do such things or fixing whatever bug is making their cleaners act in such a way before doing their full rollout.

I think that ambiguity was intentional, tbh.

"Ignorance is bliss" -The Railroad's Motto

THE WIPE IS VOLUNTARY!

Minuteman and BOS work closely together. That's the closest thing. BOS recruits smaller factions, the settlements. SO do the Minutemen. BOS and Raiload don't see eye to eye. BOS believes the Synths are dangerous and robotic. Raiload believe they are people but they value the body, not the inside. Institute and BOS are at odds. One is unchecked science. One is science checked by humanity

The brotherhood is one of the most fun to play

Their plan after destroying the Institute is to help the remaining Synths. They're not trying to rule the wastes and that's not necessarily a bad thing. They're Synths aiding Synths.

@@RedRabbitEntertainmentand if you buildup the minute men along with rr ending you get best of both worlds

They were a Raider psyop all along.

Not if you buildup the minute men

The Bos farm and get it from the farms they protect. Minutemen are the same. Institute steals and grows. Raiload are funded by the members and they don't engage in big ops. The members trade most likely teck they acquire or weapons. They are less of a stable faction. More like a gang, minus the raiding.

Nope the BoS basically take food from farmers.

@@rlj615 No. You do. They trade or offer protection. Is on the terminals. Teagan admits what he is doing is not aproved and he only asks you to do it and turns a blind eye. You steal if you chose to do so. You could also pay like the BOS do.

@@dancorneanu9144 Then why the farmers against helping the BoS. My opinion is because of Arthur Maxson.

@@rlj615 Arthur Maxson ordered his men to trade and offer protection. After the ending you can hear that the BOS are big spenders in Diamond City. There is no case of them threatening or taking food besides the case of the SS going against orders and accepting the clearly against the orders quest. Teagan makes it clear if you bother to question him . Even then Teagan just turns a blind eye. It's the SS stealing when he could just pay. You 2 are the assholes (in that playthrough), not the BOS or Arthur. The farmers need to be deceived by you and attack the BOS. You need to make enemies with them before the MM attack. The farmers are suspicious when they arrive beacuse they know nothing of them, till the BOS do what they did back in DC, offer help. Then the settlers are happy. Diamond City praises how much they spend. Do you expect guys who barely survive and never left to know of the brotherhood from DC? The exports don't even reach this place. Only a couple of guys ever meet them Your opinion is based on bad info you have.

Yeah me either. The other factions are just, better

@@kommandantkampf9992Yeah I just struggle to take them serious, I think that’s one of the problems with fallout 4 overall in my opinion, I’ll always love fo4 but fo3 and nv just seem darker and more like a post apocalypse, whereas 4 just seems lighter and much less brutal 👍🏼.

I’m not sure if it has changed but last I checked the railroad quest line finishing achievement is considered rare on Xbox, it just shows that no one plays through that faction.

@@sargesacker2599 yh not a big fan of the railroad at all, I let them carry on freeing the commonwealth nuka cola vending machines on there own until I destroy them after siding with the minutemen or brotherhood usually.

Reminded me that they could've been so much better if they added in faction armour

The Far Harbor children of Atom are a better faction than the Railroad even, lol.

@@xbigbooshx4643 Exactly

@@xbigbooshx4643 hell, I'd say they're more interesting than the minutemen

This

@@palaherk2955and then you decided to ironically sound like a 14 year old girl by saying “this”

BOS is nothing like the Enclave. They don't like Synths. The same as your basic settler and the Minutemen. They liberally destroy the Institute, telling you that teck like that is not worth human life. They don't kill non-ferals and do better than Lyon's boys. They don't even take potshots. They recruit from the basic settler. SM are violent cretins and they get stopped. They are not techno-fetishists. The guys refuse teck to preserve life. The ones that are... the Institute body and the Raiload.

Or Curie's body donor, literally braindead.

Wow that's awful

And then you can use said synth (with permission) to transfer Curie to, if I remember correctly.