The opening scene of the first episode was such a killer introduction. I remember actually going back to check if I had clicked on the wrong show at first. But once I realized what was going on I was 100% hooked on the show right away. So clever.
Now can we also get the rest of the OG cast from the game to react to the show and give their opinions? Sadly Annie Wershing who played Tess has passed away (RIP), but I still wanna hear from the rest.
Didn't shepass away right around the time the 1st or 2nd episode of the show came out? I remember thinking what a coincidence it was and also sad because she didn't get the time to enjoy the fruits of her work like the rest of the game cast did :(
The intro for the first episode is still probably one of my favorite moment of the series so far. The eerie tension that’s created where he perfectly predicts what’s to come to showing the whole audience and host being speechless and terrified and it was incredible.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="460">7:40</a> YESSSSSSSS a perfect example of taking liberties and improving upon its story, Bill and Franks story was such a great episode. That episode alone gives me hope that season 2 will also make great changes to The Last of Us 2’s story while still respecting the main plot. I can not wait for season 2!
Soon as I saw that Craig Mazin was showrunner, I knew this was going to be awesome. Troy mentioned the amount of detail they got right, and judging from how astronomically right the Chernobyl show was in terms of detail, it was absolutely no surprise he did the same here. Amazing.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="895">14:55</a> it’s actually crazy how they found PERFECT spots that look exactly the same from the game to film at
As someone who played the original game 6 times in a row when it first came out, I didn't know if Pedro was the right fit. Until I saw the Sarah death scene. Somehow, he made it hit even harder. He killed it, and I was wrong. Nobody can replace Troy. Troy is Joel. Pedro is just the live action Joel.
Holy shit troy baker thee Troy baker this guy is the best if not the perfect voice actor besides Erica Lindbeck I'm such a huge fan I love his batman acting he's the second best batman
P.S Joel isn’t Mexican. Sarah isn’t Black. Ellie isn’t British. The show just made the same mistake the Part 2 game made where they wanted to shove radical left wing ideology and politics down the customers throats. Hence why Abby is rightfully getting a lot of hate.
Troy: “I play Joel.” Me: “Actually you’re James from S1 Episode 8.” 😂👌 I personally wish Joel n James went toe to toe. Fans of the game, including myself would’ve lost our minds seeing TV Joel n Game Joel fight each other. 😂 Can’t wait for S2. 🙏
I feel like the thought must have crossed their minds too but they considered it would be a bit too "meta" or jarring to take seriously for those who already played the game. Still, the idea is nice though - but it seems hard to execute.
I actually wish that instead of being cast as David’s right hand, he would’ve been cast in season 2 as Jerry. For game fans you know he would’ve been perfect for that role, for tv only viewers, you’ll find why out soon enough.
Nah, he wouldn’t look or embody the part, talented as he is. Jerry’s voice actor is his face model too and already a live action actor, they should just get him. Could’ve maybe had Troy as an older interpretation of Jason (?), the one from Abby’s crew with the bitch scar across his face.
I always thought it was a shame they cast Troy as James in the show. Don't get me wrong, I love Troy and he did well in the role. I appreciate that they wanted to give homage to the OG and give him a role in the show. But that's not where I would have slotted him in. I think Troy was underutilized there. I would have made him Jerry (for those who know). That would give us a little tease the first season and we the game fans would know he was coming back for season 2. Also I think it would be interesting to see him playing on the other side of things in a way.
Every time James in the show talks I hear Joel 😢😢😢, don’t get me wrong I like Pedro he was good in the Mandolorian too but I think with an little bit of work Troy’s reprisal of Joel would of been so goooood.
I like this game. I bought it four times, three times in the digital version and once on disk. The TV show perfectly complements it. Drakman is a genius! Troy and Ashley - I love you.
@@kyletotten1685 The entire video was about his role in both the game and the show. He probably wasn't even on set for the birth scene. So why would he talk about that when it had nothing to do with him?
Based on what this actor said, “The Real Joel Miller,” captioned needs to change because they are both Joel Miller. It’s kind of insulting to Pedro to phrase it that way and he does a phenomenal job as Joel.
Ah, it's just clickbait-y. And, in all honesty, I love Pedro - he's a phenomenal person and actor, but I honestly think Troy Baker did a far superior job.
I don’t think it’s trying to say that Pedro isn’t the real Joel Miller, I think it’s more trying to grab any potential viewer’s attention by making them think “Woah, the real Joel (the actor) from The Last Of Us is reacting to the show? Awesome!”
I wonder if troy has a specific character that he would like to be the live action version of in a tv show, from a video game that he's seen or played.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="953">15:53</a> I’ll never get over how wrong it was of the soldiers to knock Joel out for trying to save Ellie. He didn’t even hold a gun at them, he just wanted to save her
Yes, but they entered their territory and they didn't know them, it could've been a trap like the guy faking an injury in Pittsburgh. One of them clearly took over reanimating Ellie or she would've died there. And they brought both in to recover. It was a dick move to hit him in the head like that, but I understand why they didn't want to take risks.
Show is a very close adaptation of what the game was and is definitely rewatchable, especially seeing the runners and clickers come to life. Just wish the story wasn't tweaked. If that didn't happen than it'd be a life action of the game still really good though
@scarlette_rot in the show Bill and Frank kill themselves, game Frank gets bit kills himself Bill lives and boobytraps the town In the game, Tess is bit and has a shootout with the military (i think military). In the show, she blows up the building herself and a hoard of runners. Finally, in the game, the virus affect the people infected, turning them into runners stalkers clickers and bloaters. Only sound attracks them. In the show its like one giant ecosystem where they act as one organism and if you kill just one of them than a signal is sent to a horde in the other side of town which is why and how Tess blew herself up after getting infected in the show. Not what happened in the game
@@ziminar966don’t forget the spores, which I think was the biggest shame to leave out. It’s such a key element which creates a lot of necessary tension at times.
In real life spores arent localised to one space and they're invisible. By the time you breathe them its already too late. Plus we all wore enough masks by the time the show came out @myteatime2836
I really wished that Troy and the rest of the OG cast would have been given more permanent roles in the HBO adaptation. They are all such gifted actors. It would have been so fun to see how they would have handled new characters throughout the show's run. Why Neil, whyyyy???? lol
i love the last of us greatly both games and show, comparing the game to the show, the game is clearly written to be a game, joel is this badass beast of a man. but what the show did differently is that their joel is more fatherly more often, even when he doesnt know it himself, and that made the game more personal for me, pedros joel reminds me of my own father, a stoic man but one with lame dad humor (the very same humor that i have HAH) in some of the later episodes he even has the same fucking hair like my dad (the overgrown "i wasnt asleep what are you talking about" hair) and i recognised myself in some of ellie. sooo long story short..... season 2 is gonna make me cry EVEN MORE than game 2 did.
I’m just gonna say it the show version of Joel just did not feel like Joel to me. I definitely wouldn’t go so far as to say I hated it but Joel (and Ellie for that matter) just feel like almost entirely different people to me. Is that a bad thing? I suppose that’s a pretty subjective question to answer but it is noticeable. For the record I actually had no bias going into the show. I some how never managed to play the game before the show came out so I really had no expectations. Having watched the show first and then playing the game I have to say the game did it better in every way. All this to say I think Troy baker and Ashley Johnson absolutely crushed their performances!
I think the show butchered the interrogation scene "the stab on the knee and slap, focus up right here..." With the music in the game too on that scene. It showed joel as caring, but that scene showed how cut throat joel was
Why does Troy always talk as though he's the writer, game dev and director of things instead of the VA/mocap or actor in the game and show? It's so very odd to me with his "I need to do this if you're on the stick, or not if it's in the show..." He's not creating the game nor the show, he's enacting what others have created/written. It really sounds strange the way he tries to own the whole process that way.
Neill Druckmann is great, and I can appreciate the excitement for the show. But my God they really dumbed it down, and I dunno whether it was for the benefit of the less literate or what. 9 episodes was ridiculously short for an HBO show. Both TLOU games had the same level of subtlety and subtext that classics like The Sopranos, The Wire, early Game of Thrones. Both games left a lot of searching up to the players. Even David’s true motives are questionable (yeah, I think he’s a paedo, but there’s still room to question whether that’s true or not, the fact that he refers to Joel as a “crazy man.”). The show stripped all that introspective storytelling and it almost feels like the writers didn’t trust the audience the way Druckmann trusted the players. It makes me wonder will Season 2 reach the same level as Part 2.
It wont, however imo it doesnt need to all it needs to be is adaption of the story we had in the games and just as season 1 did for part 1 bring a new audience to games. Hopefully season 2 could do the same... if you have played the games the show will never beat it cause we spent more time with the character plus waited 8 years for the sequel
@@slickstar96 You’re right. But I remember a long time ago when the second game came out, amidst the silly turmoil, I sat there like “This is literally an HBO show,” because all I could think was The Sopranos, in the sense that the basic story was there, but the interpretations surrounding it all were for everyone to look into. So imagine my reaction when I found out HBO had taken on the series? The best episode was Episode 3 with Bill and Frank. But it was the best for the wrong reasons. That could have been a show in itself, but what killed it for me was the moment it showed them and Joel and Tess having a nice dinner in the sunshine. It felt like the world wasn’t half as dangerous as it was the games.
@@well1012 @well1012 i definetly hear it. The infected and being as dangerous as the game was one of the main criticism of the show and the creators have talked how they are going to amp it up for next season so we'll just have to wait and see ... ep3 for me personally is mixed its a culmination of the whole theme of the story which i like but because we only have 9 episodes in total. It feels like it dampens on ellie and joel relationship which i feel you need with the story and this will have ripples on S2 because that same love and push and pull of the relationship pushes ellie to do the things she does in p2
I liked this show when I first saw it. But then overtime I started to like it less and less. There were things I didn’t like while I was watching it but I kinda ignored those things in the beginning. But when you take a step back and look at the show as a whole it’s nothing compared to the game. Cutting away from our two main characters to show the talk show scene (Unnecessary/Doesn’t inform us of what the stories actually going to be about and is just exposition. And no the story’s not about the apocalypse btw for any of you smartasses out there), Jakarta scene (Which is my favorite btw/No Shade), Bill and Frank (Yes this one’s overrated as fuck and doesn’t serve a purpose at all to the story), and the shit in Kansas City is just dumb. Even the beginning scene from episode 9 was unnecessary. We don’t need to know where Ellie came from and in an already short ass episode they spend the first 10-15 minutes giving us a backstory that we already knew about. Marlene promising to watch over Ellie and take care of her. The show only spent like half of its time with Joel and Ellie and for the first episode of Season 2 which I guarantee a lot of you TV people out there aren’t ready for, because you have no idea. The relationship between the two of them needs to work by the end of the first season. In the end it came out rushed, disjointed and feeling kinda like a CW show like The 100 or something. Show 6/10. Game 10/10.
Troy Baker should play Martin Luther King Jr! He would be the best ever choice for the role of MLK Jr. Except Laura Bailey would make an equally good Harriet Tubman. If they make a movie about those two I hope Baker and Bailey are chosen.
@shulk2494 Indeed he would which makes it all the more funny why people go ahead and make it anyway, when making this comment would probably frame you as kind of an asshole in Troy's mind.
@@shulk2494 He would disagree with it; I don't think he would *hate* it. Everyone's entitled to opinions. I think Troy was a much better Joel than Pedro also.
I usually agree with what Troy has to say about these games, but I disagree on the Ish story. That 100% should’ve been made instead of making up a story between bill and frank. I loved their story and it was well told, but it’s not the game and Ish IS, all fans want to know what’s up with Ish, but we didn’t get it.
I don’t care too much about Troy. He accepted to portray Neil Druckman’s vision - yes it was beautiful. No, he doesn’t have a backbone. Get this gentleman off my feed.
Joel Part I is my favorite, cold and brutal like a mf. Part II Joel is soft as hell that is why he was golf clubbed to death. TV show Joel is like meh.
I think people would’ve been able to buy into the more weaker and vulnerable Joel with someone like Nikolaj Waldu or Josh Brolin in the role. At the very least they could’ve cast someone who looks like the character. What a miss. Overall, I think the show is nowhere near as good as the game. It’s disappointing as a fan of the original source material. Troy Baker is being paid to praise it because he’s in it. I see right through it. 👍🏻 Episode 3 is nothing but LGBT propaganda.
Neil Druckmann's next Game is going to be DOA because of all the Woke Garbage is going to be in the Game, you want to know how I know, take a look at Unknown 9, Dusborn, Concord, GET WOKE GO BROKE
It’s just a shame radical Wokeness ruined the entire show and game series 😔. Part 2 has a 68% rating for a very good reason. People were furious to pay $60 only for 20+ hours of radical left wing ideology being crammed down their throats in every single scene. Wokeness only destroys.
I don't mind them being gay -- they were in the game. What I thought was unrealistic and ruined Bill's character was that he and Frank just live, like, pretty much normal, great lives for TWO DECADES in an Infected Apocalypse with all the food and wine they can eat and drink and NO ONE disturbs their little town too much (the booby traps weren't THAT good). Are you telling me there were no Hunters or the military or anyone who tried to take what they had? Except once in a blue moon. No Infected ruined their little party? (And where the heck do you get cancer medication -- or whatever it was that Frank had, I forget, it's been a while -- that's still effective after 20 years in an Apocalypse?). And Bill in the game was this jaded grump who thought caring for someone would get you killed. It was supposed to be sort of a mirror held up to Joel, like, this is what he could become if he kept on the way he was going and if Ellie hadn't come into his life. There was absolutely no interaction between Ellie and Bill which was a crime because it was a pretty fun part of the game version. TV Bill was just a watered down version of game Bill. (WAY watered down). And there was no run through the town with Bill, Joel and Ellie, no fight with Runners, Clickers and the Bloater at the school. I mean, c'mon, there weren't enough Infected in the show as it was. Then we just get that stupid, in-your-face letter that Bill leaves that Ellie reads. Saying Joel should find someone to care about. Oh, gee, thanks, is THAT what they were going for? We, the audience, are too stupid to figure that out, I guess. It's best if it's a slow burn with the interactions between the characters that Joel figures out he can start to care again. Not something people keep throwing at him like a ton of bricks. Like later, Henry saying, "You're not HER father, but you were SOMEONE'S." - Eesh, lay it on thick again why don't you. We GET it. There weren't enough episodes as it was for the show to just focus an entire ep on Bill and Frank and take away from Joel and Ellie. Then they threw that whole Katherine side nonsense. Everything felt rushed in the show, to me anyway. The game is so much better, even though I get what Troy is saying, seeing other layers of the same character in different ways. I just don't think the show did as good a job as they could have. Sorry -- this is LONG.
Wait, the guy who had gay porno magazines with pages stuck together, the only person he cared about was another man, who cried for and called his partner was gay? Who would've guessed? What's next? Are they gonna make Ellie, the girl who dated a girl like girls?
I completely agree. Cailee Spaeny would’ve from Alien Romulus would’ve been a much better fit. 👍🏻 Let’s not forget, Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson are being paid to promote and praise it because they’re apart of it. As a fan of the original game, the show was disappointing, nowhere near as good as the game and I’ll have forgotten about it 10 years from now. What a shame.
Every time James in the show talks I hear Joel 😢😢😢, don’t get me wrong I like Pedro he was good in the Mandolorian too but I think with an little bit of work Troy’s reprisal of Joel would of been so goooood.
