The REAL Reason Grant and Micah Left Good Good Golf - The TRUTH on Podcast 8 

Take a moment it's growth, nothing on this planet remains the same, all these guys are individuals and things change but at heart they are all good literally.

Grant is a family man. You can tell he wanted to be in Florida. He chose a LIFE decision. Loyalty is to family first for him. Honestly, I love his decision as a life decision

Family means everything to Grant, which is what I believe is the main reason for leaving. He's an outstanding teacher of the game, and that's ultimately where he wants to go with his career. Wishing the man nothing but the best.

Entrepreneur or employee?? Clock in for work or have freedom and creativity. This came down to business and not friendships! I don't blame grant and micha for their decision, it just sucks because Garrett,grant ,Steve ,Matt ,bubbie and Micha were so captivating to watch together . R.I.P stumps vs twigs

I just want to let you guys know, you have quickly become my goto pod for discussions on all things you tube golf. After watching the GoodGood video, my first thought was, how long do I have to wait for Divot Dudes to talk about this! And here you guys are, right on top of it, way to go!

Pause and reflect before you speak are good words to live by. Emotions at the moment could come out hurtful and hard to take back. Focus changes and needs of our family should prevail. I will continue to watch all 3 channels for content for different reasons. New to golf. Enjoying the process.

One area that not many have brought up is how Micah has signed on with other companies, independent of Good Good. Hyundai, coffee, airbnb/hotel travel stays. It might be harder to leverage the Good Good stats because they are divided, so they want to put more into their channel to get individual sponsors. Lots of esports orgs, potentially similar to content organizations, tend to negotiate all partnerships on behalf of their players/talent. That could be a big factor for Grant/Micah.

I grew up playing golf to a mid single figure handicap standard. Actually getting back into the game after many years off because of the good good videos. I'll still be watching both parties videos. All the best to all of them

Really good take on this guys. Can't wait to see what Grant says. It's hard to believe he just dropped this out of nowhere after spending all that time with Garrett. Theyre such good friends, gonna be the most hard on them if they are completely going seperate ways. Hard to believe with the Mizuno stuff etc. But I have to think Grant wants the freedom to be with his wife and family. The first years of marriage are vital and very important for him to be close to her.

Having just watched Grants video… he said something very similar to what Micah also said… VALUES. Knowing Micah and Grant are devout Christians, they have openly said that their Faith is number 1 in their lives, I feel the Good Good brand, in some way, started challenging their principles in faith. In a nut shell I believe this was significant enough for them both to choose their beliefs over everything else. JMO.

What you got to remember is, it’s not just videos, these channels are a business, it’s their financial futures and it pays the bills. Micha, wants to go pro, do long drive, him and his wife bought the big camper to do traveling, he went down his path for his reasons. Then he gets a deal with Teebox app, that video was a concept, like a promo commercial. So they invited the creators who they could get together to put a video together to get the word out. Micha, gets a deal with Genesis motors, he has his coffee brand. Grant, has a future wife and his family, plus then his wife’s family to think about. I’m sure Grant had some major sit down meetings with family to try and make this decision, and I’m sure it was a hard one. Both of those guys had to think about their futures for good reasons, we all had to do that in our lives. It will be interesting to see what goes on with Grant, his Dad has been a golf instructor for over 30 years, might Grant go that patch and do like, Rick Shiels, Peter Finch, time will tell. I’m excited to see how creative he will get, plus if he signs on with a established brand. I betting it will be great.

The very fact that they offered Grant 'the kitchen sink' meant GoodGood KNEW Grant was great for the company but didn't offer him anything UNTIL he said he was going to leave. GoodGood was good for the company and good for Grant, but all good things come to an end. I hope both 'parties' continue to do well.

It’s never that easy or cut and dry when the first thing said is “the lawyers don’t want us to say too much”

Finally a good take looking from the outside and considering the circumstances. People need to understand that as you all said, good good is a company’s it’s not the dudes in the video. They’re employees, and the businessmen behind the company may have had a new plan for their RU-vid deal and it didn’t gel with grant and he didn’t want to continue and fair play to him. I think Grant was pivotal in growing good good as much as good good has helped him grow. He was my favorite guy in the group I loved his labs videos and mind for the game. He imo had the most polished game, his swing was so fundamental but so great to watch. Look forward to the future for both GG and Grant

I would love to see Grant and Micah collaborating more with perhaps a couple other scratch players. I am definitely in for that sort of videos. Like those on the Bryan Bros channel with for example Scott Stevens

You guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and being the logical and sensible voice amongst a sea of toddlers and detractors. You guys are 100% correct in everything you said. Keep pushing out videos and I'll keep watching. And for the love of all that is good, please get some golf lessons. 🤣🤣

Good Good may run into issues with Luke... He's so good that he really doesn't fit with the group. Grant was consistent enough to compete with Luke somewhat but the remaining members have no chance so every video will be Luke winning and that's gonna get old real fast. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

If you watch the Luke Peavy channel. He played in Dallas with Micah. And while in Dunkin.. there was a quick flash of Grant. Luke goes on to talk about his conversation with Grant and how he is a believer in God. Now you go back to Micahs video on why he left... he mentions there was a difference in beliefs and vision. Come back to Luke's video with Micah. They are all men of faith. Just guessing....

Grant and Micah are 2 different situations. I don't think anyone should be annoyed at Grant for leaving in general. The timing frustrated me considering how Good Good were wounded because of Micah. He could have of stuck around for a few more Good good weeks to allow for better transistion

Good Good started with George Bryan and Brice Butler. Kyle Berkshire had some time with them too. Now Luke joined them and I'm sure they'll find someone to join. Would be fun to see Kozan to be there more often but I think that's asking a lot. I think Garrett is the one who will suffer the most since he was doing everything with Grant on his own channel. We'll see how it goes but I'm not worried at all for these guys.

Gotta say I do feel for GG; Micah & Grant's departures are far from insignificant, but at the same time, GG can certainly bounce back and move forward. I actually saw both departures coming. I think what Grant & Micah both have in common with their decision to leave is they want to be able to make a living at golf; not RU-vid. Sure, RU-vid will be there for them and won't be an insignificant part of their families' income in the near term. Micah wants to go pro, and I think his path forward will be more challenging; but with a lot more work and coaching, you gotta believe he at least has a chance. It will be tough, though. Grant was my favorite guy in GG. He has a great personality and relates well with others, has a great approach to golf and his game, and shows he has the potential to be a great teacher of the game. I love the way he talks his way around a golf course and through his process. I'm not sure Grant necessarily has strong aspirations to go pro soon (if at all). As you guys mentioned, I think their individual family situations weighed strongly into both of their decisions to move on, as well as their own personal and professional aspirations for what they want to do with golf and their careers. Being good at golf takes no small amount of work. Being great, or competitive on the professional battlefield, takes a TON of work and dedication. Kinda makes it obvious why Micah left. I'm not so sure what Grant's reasons and motivations are, as I haven't really heard him talk alot about what he wants to do career-wise. What is obvious is that staying with GG and the demands it puts on your time was certainly impeding Grant from moving toward his goals; whatever they happen to be. I believe it's fair to say he gained a lot from being in GG, and he contributed an awful lot, as well; so there's no reason to throw hissy-fits, and no reason for there to be any bad blood between them all.. I have to applaud both for taking their leaps of faith and chasing their dreams. I'm just waiting to see what that'll be for Grant. I could see him making a really nice living as a PGA club and teaching professional on a large scale. Since he got the great opportunity of travelling a lot with GG, though, he may also have a strong desire to be a tournament pro. We'll see, I guess. That's it for this video. Thanks, Divot Dudes, and peace out...

Loved bringing in the business aspect of this. Its easy to forget that these guys work for Good Good the company.

Anyone who hates Micah or Grant were never fans then. They each have to Do what is best for their families.

I am on both sides. I love Good good as a group and the chemistry between the guys and i love all guys individually following all guys personal channels as well. I will miss Grant in good good videos but i look forward to see new content on his own channel. I wish Grant the best and i wish good good the best.

I think the visit to the UK with Rick Shiels put it in perspective with Micah. He realized it was time to move on. It is possible he knew that before going on the trip but he knew that the exposure to Rick's viewers would help gain followers and subscribers when moving to his own thing.

If I had one piece of advice for Bubbie, it would be never say never. Times and people change. He may never see himself leaving good good, but that could change tomorrow. So respect others life path, as you never know what tomorrow will bring.

Well said guys,, Grant gave a lot in many different ways, Good Good owes a lot to Grant. He is perfectly entitled to do what he feels is best for him

Thanks for doing these guys. The people need to know and subscribe. Great having a channel to wrap up all that happenings in RU-vid golf

Something to think about. Grant really did give his all to the company and sacrificed his own channel because he put all his effort into Garrets page when it wasn’t good good week. It was either good good content of GM Golf. Never anything for himself

One separate thing to speculate. You guys mentioned Good Good as a business. Grant and Micah were posting more to their own channels. One thing that in theory might have forced Grant/Micah's hand is if the Good Good executives created a new non compete clause restricting what content each could make while employed by Good Good... Or (Unlikely but still a theory) Good Good could have asked for a percentage of Grant/Micah's personal youtube page revenue, especially if Grant/Micah were wearing Good Good apparel during the video.

I find the critique of Bubbie odd. He spoke the most truth in the video. He never went to an unprofessional place he just noted he wouldn’t have made the same decision.

The thing with Micah is the one that’s different. To not be able to talk about something because of lawyers, that’s not a kosher split. Something happened there. I think it was a location based decision with grant… think he just wants to move back to Florida. Maybe the fiancée had a lot to do with that too.

These are young kids. Life, Wives, Kids, and personal passion will all take them many directions. I Hope Luke Kwan can make a good impact. No way this happens but adding Chase from U of A and Mason from UCLA would be hecka fun.

These two are good at listening and letting each other speak.

Bummer Grant left and even said GG didn't conflict with his own content. Grant will be successful, Micah will need to rely on others. His content just isn't as good.

Thanks Guys. I made a quick emotional comment on the GG video when perhaps I shouldn’t. Appreciate this video 👍

It may turn out that a better path for Grant would have been negotiating a better $ package and more time for his own brand instead of cutting all ties. Maybe best of both worlds. Love Grant but I am not sure he is cut out to build his own brand. Time will tell….

I think its a combination of both the family reasons stated but also business, Good Good will release clubs soon and and that will hurt Grants deal with Mizuno and Micah's deal with Cobra and other possible future partners. Grant joining late was just an employee probably not an equity partner so longer he stays the more he limits his earning potential. Grant was also an employee of GM golf so he spent 1 week a month working on Good Good and 1 week a month on GM Golf and these are generally not a simple week 6-10 days at a time which doesn't leave much time for family or his own channel or being based back in Florida. Micah was also that bit older clearly was not one of the guys no where near as much of the course, his life was already going in a different direction so it just makes sense for him. Focus on going pro building his solo brand

I said this on a post similar and I think it'll open doors for them Goodgood should almost branch out to different regions making teams of current RU-vid golfers which will put it more content and set them up for regional rivalries and matches would be very interesting

Micah and Grant both mentioned values in their short explanations, not sure what that means but i wish them both the best.

Appreciate the breakdown from you guys. I really had no idea how this truly worked. Thanks boys.

I did notice that Grant wasn’t wearing a Good Good hat on his latest Instagram posts. That’s the other thing… it’ll be harder for Grant to push Grant Horvat Merch than it is to push Good Good merch.. unless he gets a good sponsorship like Micah.. but maybe he will. I always liked Grant. I’ll miss him in the videos for sure.

Surprised there’s no non competes built into their contracts for at least some period of time

I dont know if saying they are "crumbling before our eyes" is really fair. 2 members made decisions for themselves and the rest of the group will move on.

Bryson got him the hook up with Greg Norman Liv Golf Pro Tour haha 😂 imagine

I dont actually watch micah doing his solo stuff but i will watch grant do his

My suggested video beneath this is Micah Morris - “We are starting a new series” Grant Vs Micah

I read more into Grant's announcement than the others. What is going on that required in the 4 mins he spoke to say there are some things he is not willing to compromise on. Is GoodGood about to script outcomes? Were they asking Grant and Micah to do things that may not have had a positive impact to their brand? Is this the underlying reason?

I’m glad you both took such an adult stance on this. I cannot understand why people are so salty toward Grant about this. People move on, it doesn’t have to be negative, Grant didn’t scheme or manipulate people, he’s just making a decision to change his direction. People do it every day and it doesn’t mean they’re bad or wrong for making those moves if they feel it’s the right thing. I think the audience is still very young and just doesn’t have the experience in life to understand that this is just what happens.

My 2 cents, as we are all only the outside looking in, from a personal point of view, Grant and Micah appear to be heavily family focused men that would be extremely protective of their wives/partners etc. I could see scenarios where some of the guys may have been disrespectful towards them, unintentionally even. You could imagine Matt telling someone's wife to shut their mouth even as a joke, but that can upset some people, even guys saying they are Christians or people of faith, but then conducting themselves in a fashion off camera that doesn't reflect their belief could also upset people enough, different beliefs and direction was a phrase used somewhere. Unfortunately for all of us, we are all people on the outside looking in, so everything is only speculation, but people moving on happens everywhere. I think Grant and Micah have made decisions based on what makes them the most happy, so why is everyone upset that they are chasing their own happiness?? Why are we free to choose our happiness, but they can't follow their own dreams, beliefs, and happiness? Good Good will continue to grow, and Grant and Micah will follow their own dreams and happiness as they deserve.

It came from the CEO of G G on Mr. short game podcast, big change and news coming in Jan, 2023! That change may be why both left! We'll see what the Change and "BIG NEWS" coming in January!

Overall, the company was more than likely not compensating Grant well enough considering he was basically running 3 Good Good channels while still running his own. I’m not saying he deserved more equity up front, but Grant was basically the main reason this entire company started exploding. They offered “the kitchen sink” when it was too late when Grant had already made up his mind to go home to his family. There is a reason why the content elevated the last year. Top collegiate players, elite junior players, and even pros play with only Grant and Garrett. Kwon will have a big role to fill.

Grant and Micah are totally different because Micah was a pretty hard guy to like and Grant was the opposite. Claiming Micah was level headed is a bit of a stretch.

Nailed it this is a business (Family and friends yes) but a business, no question these other 5 guy (love to watch them all) will not be together 20 years from now.

I would be really intrigued to have a body language expert watch the good good video back. There are some very odd behaviours from individuals that I'm pretty certain confirm we aren't hearing anything close to the full story.

I have a feeling part of it might have to do with Grants relationship with Mizuno. Good Good is getting into the club business.

I know that Grant and Micah’s faith was very important to them. Is it possible that this has something to do with ethics? I’m racking my brain to try and think of something that GoodGood could have agreed to that Grant and Micah wouldn’t have been comfortable with?

The good good clan are also partners in this business. Grant included. The holdings are actually fairly balanced and they also offered Grant more. He turned the deal down. Nothing wrong with that, but it came down to those guys not wanting to be a part of the business plan going forward. Good good will be just fine and so will Grant and Micah.

Love the video great perspective on the situation. Since this airing of your video I have listened to Grant's short video and also listened to Matt Kendrick who is the CEO of good good. I am paraphrasing but he said all will be told on January 3rd. He also stated in this video that Grant did not give them any reason as to why he was leaving. However when Grant released his short video he said he was not going to compromise. I do not believe this is going to end well with one party or the other. When Matt spoke about the January 3rd release about everything will be told he was pretty emphatic about it. I am not drawing sides I wish both parties will be extremely successful in their endeavors. But I do believe there will be damage done. Someone is not telling the truth here.

grant is the only reason i have any interest in the drama that's unfolding with good good. this whole thing has put a sour taste in my mouth with good good. great take from you guys - digging your stuff!

When folks are watching these videos, you’re very right, they don’t see the backend. Once you heard them say, “Legally I can’t expand on certain things.”, you know there is a lot more involved than just personalities on the screen. As I mentioned in other comments, it’s the same as watching a show like Saturday Night Live. Personalities move on to pursue careers and other personalities will revolve in. In the backend there is a business operating that will make the moves to keep the ship righted. Grant will do great, so will Good Good. Imagine a brand searching to sponsor an individual and because of your contract the company may own a large portion of that income. There is always more than you see so it sorta ignorant to lay down negative comments without really knowing the details. 🧐

Kwon was not the play

Change is a natural state of affairs. Nothing stays the same as far as people are concerned. At 62 it's something learned as far as life goes. Music is a big one. I still listen to 60's/70's music. My grandkids think it sucks! 🤬🤬 That's STUPID,! 😂

Kinda interesting but I’ve noticed since tig left that, grant is the only one from GG who “likes” tigs IG posts. And grant is the only person from GG that tig still “likes” everyone of his post. Not saying that has anything to do with anything just thought it was a little odd 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

But the quickest way to grow is to be part of something that’s bigger than your own channel. If Grant wants to grow his own channel /brand, you have to stick with the larger company because they keep giving you recommendations.

2 unbelievable good family guys wanting to do well for themselves and being with their family yeah it’s been a good thing with Good Good but nothing last forever even if you want it to

You nailed it when referring to Grant's loyalty to his family and his new fiancé. I don't think people understand how much Good Good travels to create the content that they put out, combined with Good Good being based in Texas and Grant's family being from Florida. I've been in situations where you are being pulled from two opposite sides, and no matter what decision you make, you let down one side or the other.. It is a terrible feeling and that is where Grant was. There is also the new fiance' factor, and while we don't know a lot about Grants fiancé I can't imagine she would be thrilled with how much Grant is away from home. If she didn't like it I guarantee she was a factor in Grant's decision. That said, I have a theory. Grant and Matt were both engaged on the same trip to Greece. During the Good Good video about Grant/Micah they boys (Garrett, Bubbie and Steve) would refer to something about Grant leaving or Grant in general and for the most part Matt was silent regarding Grant. He did say somethings, but for the most part he was not commenting, not looking at the camera. Matt has also been creating more solo content on his own channel.. So I'm calling it now... Matt is the next to leave Good Good, and I think it will be pretty soon.

Personally I’ll probably follow grant more Micah. Nothing against Micah I just find grant more entertaining and positive. Wish them both the best

I love good good due to their different kind of personalities. But I love Grant Horvat the most he is a lot of skills to bring on the table. I watched his good good labs, and he has good points teaching skills. It's not impossible he will be successful and make his own videos. We all have our own choices when family is involved.

They kept talking about trying to make a deal for him to stay, so that leaves me to believe there was another deal he was considering. Maybe a more lucrative one, to work with Mizuno as an content ambassador. Grant is highly marketable, so a lucrative offer can’t be dismissed as a reason.

We don't know what's in the works at good good. Maybe it's not a direction they want to go. Such as Maybe they are making their own clubs and they wanted brand deals with others like ya all said. Just an example

What about Kyle Berkshire? How does he fit into GG? Is he partnering with Micah only now?

Funny how the episode is called “The Truth” and 90% of their words were “Probably.”

It hurts a little more because they lost their two best two in the group. Both of those guys still have higher golf aspirations.

I wish they had given them a sendoff...would have been nice

There was a little clue when seeing Grant attend lunch with Micah & Luke Peavy in Luke’s recent video !

I would like to correct Adam on one thing. He called them ‘employees’… According to the CEO they are all equity partners. No they don’t all have an equal share of ownership, however according to the CEO it is set up more like a profit sharing that pays dividends. They are more than just employees. Grant and Micah were also equity partners. Them leaving makes it vastly more complicated for those that understand business ownership and buyout policies spelled out in the articles of corporation.

Micah and Grant were the two best members of good good to watch. The problem is very likely that they have too much equity tied up in Steve, Bubbie, and Matt. Micah, Garrett, and Grant were driving the subscription growth. Very hard problem to solve and will continue to be a problem going forward. I mean no offense to Steve, Matt, and Bubbie - but they just don’t play great golf. They are funny, but it gets boring without high quality golf.

When u get older u realize this is normal for most folks they think their childhood friends are life friends and their usually not unfortunately. Itll work itself out with time

Good Good is your typical frat house, some mesh well, some don’t. There will always be the clicks inside these groups and its always the genuine guys/gals who get pushed out first. Grant was a legit nice guy and great golfer and seemed to just enjoy golfing on the platforms. He was also the most advanced golfer until they brought in some pros, but he’s still a top golfer in that crew. Its shame he left he was one of the main reasons I watched the show. They need to look inside and ask the questions? Who makes the biggest impact? Who brings in the most views? Who’s more important to the team? Who brings the skill? Just a few thoughts after a few beers.

The way I understand it is the Good Good brand was started and is owned by the same company that started and owns the Googan Squad outdoor brand. These investors are just using the RU-vidrs to sell merch and products. All these RU-vidrs are under contracts that may keep them from other business ventures.

It's gonna be hard for good good to continue, especially since Garrett's game has declined drastically. They do the same kind of challenges. The channel is starting to plateau. I'm still going to watch and support Grant and good good.

I've been telling people that there is some thing up with Garrett. Theres a reason people leave him. Brody, Brice, George, Micah, and now Grant.

Do a Brody Smith version. The first Good Good partnership mess before Good Good became a biz

"the two most level headed guys just left goodgood" , aren't they both pursuing Korn Ferry tour spots? Hard to do while in Good Good.

If I am married or if I have a better opportunity to grow somewhere else.... people do that everyday. For god sakes, I've lost like 5 engineers in the last 3 weeks because they wanted more money and wanted more of a challenge. This is normal. This is literally the next step for most of those gentlemen. One wants to go pro. The other one is about to get married and probably wants to move back to Florida to be close to family. Also, Micah isn't going anywhere, he's Garrett's cousin. Love you guys. Let me know when you guys want to play a Division I sports round :)

Over the last few months we have seen hints at how good good is. They just dropped in the CEO and he is there all the time now.

Bubbie decided to take some unwarranted shots in it

People acting like giving a year of grants life to good good makes him some war hero. It’s one year chill

if your watch the good good podcast, they offered him the kitchen sink. Second, Rick Shiels was a really big platform for the guys. Third, they never told Grant he couldn't do what he wanted to do and build his old brand. Say what you will but again he wouldn't have had the platform without good good.

What goes around comes around... remember when Garrett and the other guys of Good Good pulled this move on Brodie Smith and Bro 5? That was some shady Sh!t. When I heard that Grant was leaving, I thought it was a great decision. I stopped following Good Good and only followed Micah and Grant long before both of them left the company. I think both Micah and Grant are good enough golfers to sustain success on their own without Good Good. I can't say the same for some of the other members, excluding Garrett. However, I feel like Grant should shown them a bit more respect than leaving within a few day's time of saying he wants out. I'm not saying he owes Good Good anything, but he kind of does... Grant doesn't exist if not for Garrett and Good Good's decision to bring him on. Maybe he should have shown a bit more respect than exiting stage left out of nowhere. Kind of a childish move, but he is pretty young.

real talk Garrett tried too many times to slide in Grant's back 40 and it finally became too much for the homie. if they really threw the big deal him it must have been something cray cray x 20 of that nature for him to walk

I think Grant is doing something with Bryson to be honest. No idea what, but I think that collab last week was more than random.

Micah and Grant just filmed together today

Mr.Short Game interviewed the CEO of good good yesterday. It’s really good.

As an avid Golfer who watches too much You Tube, I find that these things go in waves, you watch them for a period and then you get a little bored with them and move on to someone else. I've done this with Crossfield, Me and My Golf, Rick Shiels and a few others, and now Good Good is getting a little stale for me. It was fun getting to know the Guy's and watching them play, for a couple of years, but there's only so much you can do with this type of format and it's becoming a little formulaic and predictable. With Micah and Grant leaving, it's like a TV series that has to replace an Actor that leaves, Kwan is a great Golfer, and a nice Guy, but he doesn't have enough personality to compel, and if they can't find anybody else with enough charisma, I think their in danger of becoming boring. Matt, Steve and Bubbie are great to watch mainly because of their personalities, Garrett is a great 'anchor' for the show and Micah and Grant were the 'normal' ones who made it all balance out, they've lost that balance now.

I ran across good good years ago and was hooked. Did not know that it is this big of a company. I thought it was just the guys who split their RU-vid revenue a certain % each. Interesting

How do you know that they are the "employees" when Garret full started this from the ground up

If it was truly about the guys wanting to do their own channels, then the lawyers would not have been involved and the guys would not be saying “I can’t talk about the details” to everyone. There is nothing to hide if the reality was the guys wanted to do their own thing. Grant indicated the money offered was not worth compromising his values. There is something else being hidden. Its none of my business, but this is NOT just about wanting to do their own thing.

I feel like being married doesnt have much to do they always mention they have (good good week) they play golf record videos for a whole week) and then have the rest of the month off that would mean matt would leave also since he has a fiance