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The Real Reason The Video Game Industry is Collapsing (The Death of Xbox and Decline of Triple A) 

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With recent news surrounding Microsoft and the layoffs at Arkane Austin and Tango Gamerworks, as well as the drama surrounding Helldivers 2 and it's restricted sales and reviews, we have to face the truth. The Whirlwind of Triple AAA games, Activision, Blizzard, and ongoing controversy everywhere, we have to talk about the future of games when studios behind Dishonored, Prey, The Evil Within, Redfall, The Evil Within and and Ghostwire Tokyo are left in the dust, when consoles and exclusives no longer matter, and where the almighty dollar is all that matters.
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@allbboss
@allbboss 2 месяца назад
Investors are destroying all industries. Gaming is just one sector. Just look at renting prices due to investors buying out apartment complexes and houses. People need to wake up.
@HobeyDator
@HobeyDator 2 месяца назад
Agreed! Like I said, Once A Company becomes Public, this enterprise will only please the greeny dollar eyes of its investors who dont even know whats the soul and passion of a true game.
@daviddavis6161
@daviddavis6161 2 месяца назад
Greed within gaming industry is just the tip of it all.Corporate greed is very prominent in the workforce,housing,transportation, food etc..... all the while wages stay far below the controlled cost of living. It all goes hand in hand all across the board, unfortunately.
@munchkingod6
@munchkingod6 2 месяца назад
It’s the core structure of capitalism. Without a powerful system to regulate it and keep it in line this sort of cannibalistic collapse of conditions is the only possible outcome. Competition does not function to prevent monopoly or duopoly control without aggressive antitrust which does not exist. The rot is endemic and total and until people recognize that the CORE problem is most aspects of their lives is shareholder capitalism things will just keep getting worse for us all.
@TraVenKrofT
@TraVenKrofT 2 месяца назад
​@@munchkingod6💯
@ytmld
@ytmld 2 месяца назад
one day people need to get off of their asses and vote protest and boycott these companies that ruin our lives like black rock vanguard and state street
@GnarledStaff
@GnarledStaff 2 месяца назад
Guys, its not the gaming industry. These videos are popping up about every industry. Executives taking excessive pay and mismanaging their companies in order to increase stock prices at the cost of function.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 2 месяца назад
This is very true.
@Charlesbabbage2209
@Charlesbabbage2209 Месяц назад
The enshitification of everyday life.
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat Месяц назад
Also the fact that our current system for retirement causes a lot of problems. People with 403Bs, 401Ks, and IRAs cause a ton of obsession with stock prices.
@sauske2killer21
@sauske2killer21 Месяц назад
@@Lupostehgreatthose people don’t cause the obsession with stock prices brother. They are just trying to have a modest retirement fund. It is the hedge funds who have huge amount of shares in these blue chips. Not the average worker with a 401k
@Brenelael
@Brenelael Месяц назад
It goes way beyond that. It has more to do with the Blackrocks of the world promising easy funding if these companies toe the ESG line. They inject all kinds of DEI nonsense into their companies chasing after all that enticing ESG funding and they are killing their own companies in the process. They get their Blackrock funding at the cost of their own consumers. Greed is blinding them as they charge headlong into their own demise.
@timh.7169
@timh.7169 2 месяца назад
as soon as Blackrock got interested in the gaming industry, it started to die
@cryptik3918
@cryptik3918 Месяц назад
So slaughter blackrock &/or vanguard? 🤣
@timh.7169
@timh.7169 Месяц назад
@@cryptik3918 sounds good 😅 not that easy tho
@azmalguthek4502
@azmalguthek4502 Месяц назад
@@timh.7169 No amount of money reinforces organs, friend.
@midnightshade32
@midnightshade32 Месяц назад
Yep
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator Месяц назад
It's always the Jews for some of you, huh.
@joshedenfield3761
@joshedenfield3761 25 дней назад
When games started going online only it really destroyed what we had as kids, you buy the game with everything on it, no dlc, no microtransactions, no internet required. I refuse to play the next Xbox because of the solely online aspect
@ryang3097
@ryang3097 4 дня назад
Well said...
@powermfp1
@powermfp1 2 дня назад
Online only sucks bigtime.
@Srindal4657
@Srindal4657 2 месяца назад
The gaming industry took too many pointers from gambling addicts and casino managers.
@W1ndF4lc0n
@W1ndF4lc0n 2 месяца назад
Can you blame them? The reality is that the shift towards live service/micro transactions/loot boxes are a reflection of demand. You can have masterpiece level games like Pathologic 2 that barely sell enough to keep a small studio afloat while mediocre buggy trash from an established franchise (lets say Fallout 76) or some terrible gacha garbage sell 100x more.
@zacziggarot
@zacziggarot 2 месяца назад
Yes, I can blame them. They charge the increased price of $70 and then load the game with microtransactions for even more money. What they don't tell you is that over half the money made off microtransactions comes from a small group of people: the whales. These are people that buy EVERYTHING regardless of quality, be it fomo, completionist, full on compulsive spending, they don't care. The game's industry is full on exploiting part of their audience and it's a disgusting practice. Especially when a decent sized chunk of their audience keeps fighting against microtransactions, the industry knows we don't like the added storefront in every other game, they don't care
@GabrielleTollerson
@GabrielleTollerson 2 месяца назад
exactly
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 2 месяца назад
@@W1ndF4lc0n those people are only buying fallout because if established IP
@W1ndF4lc0n
@W1ndF4lc0n 2 месяца назад
@@Matanumi That's my point. People will buy literal pile of shit if its from an established IP, but won't support new games even if they are very good. That's the problem, consumer demand. There is very little market demand for quality games among game players.
@rouvencocker
@rouvencocker 2 месяца назад
Entertainment as a whole is collapsing.
@glitch200
@glitch200 2 месяца назад
Exactly.
@dburd22
@dburd22 2 месяца назад
the whole world is collapsing
@tstager1978
@tstager1978 2 месяца назад
All because of leftism. Democrats are helping the .001% steal the worlds wealth. This is all part of a much bigger plan.
@jackstraw4222
@jackstraw4222 2 месяца назад
that only means something else has to replace it or step up ,at least thats how it used to be...idk if thats the case anymore...
@glitch200
@glitch200 2 месяца назад
@@jackstraw4222 Not during a collapse.
@CVIMALO
@CVIMALO 2 месяца назад
Moral of the story: Get passionate about something while it's niche and once it becomes mainstream, bail.
@biazacha
@biazacha 2 месяца назад
Moral of the story: keep shareholders away from your company if you want to keep making games that’ll actually be loved and cherished. He gave a bunch of examples of companies that are going strong precisely because they never entered open market.
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 Месяц назад
Well that doesn't make sense. Lots of good game companies have shareholders. Blaming shareholders or anyone who seeks profit for seeking profit is bad. Studios make games for the purpose that it'll make money. ​@@biazacha
@darkhorse29-yx8qh
@darkhorse29-yx8qh 21 день назад
This has an economic decree from AOC University. He neglects the reduced buying power of consumers. And the fact that everything you buy has a 3x mark up from cost. Movies are a really bad example and are a vehicle for money laundering for Hollywood.
@MommyORdaddy
@MommyORdaddy 20 дней назад
Elden ring sucks
@somethingsomething9008
@somethingsomething9008 20 дней назад
Anime
@gavinbissell8847
@gavinbissell8847 2 месяца назад
This is why they want everyone on a subscription service, once everyone pays no matter what quality tanks. Just look at the movie industry
@ciswhitememe
@ciswhitememe 2 месяца назад
Shareholders are enemies of gamers
@AKATenn
@AKATenn 2 месяца назад
shareholders are the enemy of any type of creativity, it causes the creator to be scared of doing anything that doesn't make "number go up" and getting sued. so it all becomes about profit instead of art, beauty, creativity.
@briansmith303
@briansmith303 2 месяца назад
@@AKATenn I'd go even further and say shareholders are the enemy of everything. Businesses are created to fill a need and provide something. And it isn't shareholder value. Value is created because the business is good at fulfilling its purpose. Once the purpose becomes making money instead of product, you can bet shareholder value is the next thing down the drain. AAA gaming is about to find that out the hard way.
@GodOfOrphans
@GodOfOrphans 2 месяца назад
Shareholders are the enemy of everyone actually they are economic parasitoids that destroy everything they get involved in by forcing it into an unsustainable fools errand for perpetual growth instead of stable consistent ROI and when this untennable impossible task fails it destroys the business while the shareholders golden parachute away to their next victim having extracted all the wealth from the situation and ruining the business for the employees and customers.
@nocturneuh
@nocturneuh 2 месяца назад
@@briansmith303 Amen 🙏
@jellyface401
@jellyface401 2 месяца назад
And a lot of other industries 😢
@burnedraventales6030
@burnedraventales6030 2 месяца назад
This is why I hate it when anything I enjoy goes main stream, it gets milked dry and then discarded
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 2 месяца назад
The problem is greed not popularity
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 2 месяца назад
​@@draco_1876exactly.
@billy6427
@billy6427 2 месяца назад
I use to be a Dbz fan . But now I can't stand it
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 2 месяца назад
@@draco_1876 Popularity enables greed, every time, because everything has a price. P.S. Anime was better when everyone was pirating it.
@MetaGamingDojo
@MetaGamingDojo 2 месяца назад
@@richardhunter9779 lmfao
@kivie13
@kivie13 2 месяца назад
There is an old saying "If you don't want to do your job someone else will do it for you". The AAA video game corporations don't want to do their job so others will inevitably do it for them.
@joevaghn457
@joevaghn457 2 месяца назад
What’s sad is that back in 1980-2010, games were so creative and and insanely innovative. But, what goes up, must come down. And unfortunately, things aren’t looking to good.
@YaaSalty...0_o
@YaaSalty...0_o 2 месяца назад
I don't even know why I try to comment in RU-vid sections anymore because RU-vid removes my comment like 95% of the time. And I know for a fact that isn't the RU-vidr trying to control their comment section by blocking certain words. Not allowed to express your opinions on RU-vid positive or negative anymore well at least in the comment section.
@blisphul8084
@blisphul8084 2 месяца назад
​@@YaaSalty...0_osometimes you have to run it through ChatGPT to get it to sound different or screw up the grammar so RU-vid doesn't delete it. Posting RU-vid comments is too much work now.
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet 19 дней назад
I remember back in the late 1990s when I encountered a reply on the IMDB that loudly proclaimed that videogames were more profitable, which on a return on investment basis, was true. However, the numbers were so small that such did not matter. And the expenditure was also minuscule compared to films. I pointed these things out, and told him that if videogames were as expensive to make as films, they would be, if anything, less profitable. Which they would be without microtransactions. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a product that is disposable and declines in asking price so rapidly is always going to be a losing proposition. When lawmakers wake up and realise they could deliver social services more efficiently and productively by removing microtransactions from games (aka the money spent on breaking gambling habits and such could be spent on things like bipolar disorder), it will shake the game industry to the core. The entire entertainment industry as it currently exists is living on borrowed time.
@TekkLuthor
@TekkLuthor 2 месяца назад
One of the biggest mistakes in gaming is the misconception that better graphics equals better games
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 2 месяца назад
But better graphics make a good game even better. And they kind of do. Why should I buy modern hardware if the game looks like from the 80s?
@LilBnnuy
@LilBnnuy 2 месяца назад
​@ninochaosdrache3189 you don't need modern hardware to play good games
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild 2 месяца назад
@@ninochaosdrache3189 No, a good GAME makes a game better. Graphics are just a bonus.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 2 месяца назад
I am glad someone says it, and I totally agree. As I wrote in another comment, I would like to share my thoughts here as well. I am of the idea that this is one of the reasons the videogame industry is in danger. Nowadays the companies worry way more in making a game with the ultimate graphics. -Now, developing games takes way more time to make, when in the past they were being released in one-two years apart and with quality. - Their development costs increase way too much because of this. - Nowadays, it seems developers are more worried about the graphics of the game than in the overall quality of the content. Ultimate graphics, but barebone games.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 2 месяца назад
​​@@ninochaosdrache3189. Funny enough, most of the games in PS1 and PS2, for instance, are way better than nowadays games.
@spherexxx44
@spherexxx44 2 месяца назад
Shareholders are the downfall of any product, their greed has no limit, they raise prices, cut cost then cut quality and when no one wants the product anymore, they move on to destroy the new product and so on.
@ls.c.5682
@ls.c.5682 2 месяца назад
You need investment for business to grow though, and the truth is pretty much anyone can invest in a lot of these companies. e.g I have some stock in Nintendo, not a lot - about $2k but I can still say i own a crumb of a major company. Single shares are something like $14 now on the NTDOY tracker. If a bunch of fans cobbled their money together and started a "company" (just a legal entity rather than something that had employees etc) they could easily buy a significant chunk of any company and have a say at financial Q+A etc. If anyone wanted to dip out, you just sell their share of the, er, shares
@jsnaggz
@jsnaggz 2 месяца назад
@@ls.c.5682 That would require some investment of time, money, and attention into the industry. Too much effort for casual consumers. Easier to stay in the cycle: buy the sloppy product, get disappointed, blame it on capitalism, share their discontent with other lazy consumers, and then get excited for the next AAA game. 😂
@tomykong2915
@tomykong2915 Месяц назад
​@@jsnaggz laziness is a pretty small factor in this in the grand scheme of things, and spherexxx was making a more general statement, which applies to all of the current western corporate environment, and with that in mind, yes, some people could afford to contribute a bit in such a way, but not the vast majority, and no, not nearly enough to actually fix the problem, they would still be outnumbered on the board by people who don't understand the industry, but had more money to begin with, and those shareholders each have at least as much invested as we would collectively invest. I do agree that we need to stop consuming the AAA titles and then complaining, the people doing that are also not helping, but they're ultimately the vocal minority. I am someone who hasn't bought a AAA game since I bought Minecraft ages ago, but I'm pretty sure that was before the Microsoft acquisition, so that doesn't even really count. I have played AAA games since, and I have been bought AAA games a few times, but I have not bought them myself.
@goose_clues
@goose_clues Месяц назад
@@ls.c.5682tell that to Blackrock jewishit CEO a.k.a Larry Fink
@alienfish8521
@alienfish8521 Месяц назад
Yep. Anytime shareholders are involved everything goes downhill.
@rexsmith9577
@rexsmith9577 Месяц назад
What? The video games industry is dying? Just because the big game publishers are in trouble? I don't think so. The Indy game industry is stronger than ever.
@Arnsteel634
@Arnsteel634 16 часов назад
We tend to call everything a collapse like the world is ending. When in reality it is corporations failing and new ones coming in to take the place of where there predecessors failed. I am convinced the movie industry is ripe for someone new to come in and be the next Disney or whoever
@sandervr10
@sandervr10 2 месяца назад
And here is the saddest thing... This way of greed driven business is not only killing the games industry ... Its killing everything it touches
@77dead
@77dead 2 месяца назад
Share holders are ruining everything literally everything, housing, politics, games, infrastructure, design, etc. literally every time I search why everything suddenly sucks or is unattainable, there's always a shareholder or corporate investor behind it.
@BraapTales
@BraapTales 2 месяца назад
The global economy is in a death spiral. The more economic signs look bad, the more shareholders try to milk everything. The more they try to milk everything, the more economic signs look bad.
@TeddyKrimsony
@TeddyKrimsony 2 месяца назад
The wrong side won the cold war
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 2 месяца назад
Okay Stalin. Get off your alt account
@thesocialistsarecoming8565
@thesocialistsarecoming8565 2 месяца назад
​@@TeddyKrimsony not really, no.
@done9137
@done9137 2 месяца назад
​@TeddyKrimsony we'd be worse if Russia won.
@jaythomas468
@jaythomas468 2 месяца назад
The problem is simple: the Western sector of gaming will probably crash. And THIS IS WHY: with gaming becoming SO LUCRATIVE, it’s now “infested” with suits, venture capitalists, and angel investors; all people who just want a simple ROI and care NOTHING about the integrity and artistry of making and releasing games, YET these companies have to kowtow to the whims and demands of these idiots pouring money into them. So then the corporate execs have to appease these VULTURES by making the “bottom line” FATTER and the easiest way to do that is JETTISON studios and employees, irregardless of whether the game they made was good, bad, a financial success or not. All while these parasites walk away with EXORBITANT 9-figure BONUSES that they could’ve taken a 20% cut on to preserve the THOUSANDS of livelihoods that they just ruined in the process. This system is BEYOND FUBAR. The industry’s heading for a crash because it’s now in a “bubble” driven by all the “money people” who prioritized short-term gains over long-term viability and they’ll just “cash out” and float away on their golden parachutes as the industry implodes behind them because they NEVER FACE ACCOUNTABILITY on any of it.
@lt7388
@lt7388 2 месяца назад
Angels
@istrumguitars
@istrumguitars 2 месяца назад
This highlights a deeper problem with how we run our economic system in the world today.
@CBonduMiel
@CBonduMiel 2 месяца назад
​ @istrumguitars i said it before, just cap everybody's salary to 200k and use the rest of these ceo annual salary and total money stashed away (save maybe a million or two) to fix whatever life they've burned in the process. it would fix a lot without increasing inflation because you wouldn't print any money and it would also stop the housing market from selling house at exhorbitant prices. It would also insure that figure generation like millenial and genZ can actually afford housing and food if you use that money to increase their salary. Those ceo and executive and money people are the ones to blame for it. i don't see why future generation should have to pay for those greedy people, let them pay for it. Sadly, a lot of those people are also in politics, so without retroactive term limit, i don't see a way to change this. People don't needs millions or billions of $ to live a decent life, 200k is enough, with an adjustment for inflation depending on the state/country/currency that is. Also it would have to be done all across the western world, but mostly in north america, including canada and the usa. There is no choice, when 1% of the population have nearly 90% of the money, its either we increase inflation through the roof, and people can't afford anything anymore or we held those responsible for it accountable and force them to liquidate the extra money and asset they don't need. it's sad, but its only viable solution that would increase the buying power of everyone not already making 200k. also, no bonus anymore for anybody either way, just so these money people can't shift all of their incone into bonuses that aren't included in their salary. that's the only way i can on how to fix this mess. The boomers litterally made a mess out of everything, it is their responsible to fix it, and to the next generations to hold them accountable for what they did. period.
@user-fq7oo2lb2c
@user-fq7oo2lb2c 2 месяца назад
That's what happens when people who's only creativity entails screwing people out of money are allowed to run the arts. I can count on one hand the amount of new games I've bought in the last 5-6 years that I actually enjoyed.
@NinjaRunningWild
@NinjaRunningWild 2 месяца назад
@@istrumguitars No, it's a problem of companies becoming too large & having priorities shift. The economic system is incidental.
@xlixity
@xlixity Месяц назад
I warned everyone about this in 2004: The fact major companies wanted to get involved in gaming and seeing gaming try and go excessively mainstream and attract hollywood rejects was going to be a problem. _"But gaming is finally going to get the respect it deserves! It's going cinematic! It's accepted by everyone now, not just nerds"._ Well, do you like what you see? Was it worth it? You think allowing public investors and casualization made gaming better than it was in the 90s & 00s? I sure hope you do. Because all of you who cheered this on in the late 00s got what you deserve.
@lewisbrowne8799
@lewisbrowne8799 11 дней назад
who was funding games before 2004??
@nikolasthethief
@nikolasthethief 2 месяца назад
It's basically the same with EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS out there. Shareholder greed is on a rampage and burning everything in its wake and soon the humanity will collapse again because of it.
@colinpower3752
@colinpower3752 Месяц назад
I would give this a treble thumbs up if possible. And the sad thing is is there is nothing we can can do about it expect hope the we are still standing when it all inevitably implodes. We are all saying indie titles are the future but how many indie houses have sold their souls to the almighty dollar.
@iknothatukno
@iknothatukno 2 месяца назад
Gaming, to me, is overdue for an 80s style crash.
@Retroloft556
@Retroloft556 2 месяца назад
Preach. I hope it is apocalyptic so the normies and crazies leave.
@jackstraw4222
@jackstraw4222 2 месяца назад
yea long overdue,and e sports and other tournaments also need demolished to bits as well...
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 2 месяца назад
Except gaming itself has become too big to fail. If gaming is going to have a "crash" it'll be western only and there will be FAR many more problems in the background (like.... not affording you rent or food)
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 2 месяца назад
I don’t get people who talk like this. AAA has been increasingly shit for two decades. That’s not where any of the good games are; thet’re all from AA and smaller budgets as well as indies (including some rare as hens teeth indie AAA titles like Baldur’s gate III and Witcher). There are more games to play than there is time. Stop feeding the AAA industry.
@dingickso4098
@dingickso4098 2 месяца назад
The AAA/AAAA industry will crash for sure, meanwhile indie games will thrive and survive.
@sillonbono3196
@sillonbono3196 2 месяца назад
It is because AAA gaming doesn't produce games, they produce business plans, the game aspect is secondary, they all want to make a GTA Online or a Fortshite "live service" that will rake in 5 billion over the next 3-4 years.
@redd-jb-
@redd-jb- Месяц назад
But fortnite is objectively a great game, and is the example of how life service Games should be.
@GrimGianni
@GrimGianni 20 дней назад
​@@redd-jb- Fortnite is NOTHING anymore without it's colabs. Why do you think EVERY season now is another dumb colab that has NOTHING to do with Fortnite. 😂
@redd-jb-
@redd-jb- 19 дней назад
@@GrimGianni i guess a right now concurrent player count of 1,664,350 is nothing🤣. Just based on statistics your points are never going to work, and then when you actually play the game you see fortnite is a metaverse, the collabs are incorporated into the gameplay, theme and sometimes the story of the game. This isn't Nicki Minaj in Call of Duty, fortnite collabs don't feel like collabs, it's just fortnite.
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 18 дней назад
@@redd-jb- And now everyone is _trying_ to Copy it, much to their own department.
@katokianimation
@katokianimation 3 дня назад
They want to sell online subscriptions to relatively easy to make game digital assets. The core game is just the hook. They spend so much energy and money on graphical performance bc making games is a marketing stunt for most. If it looks good edited into an ign review, than the job is well done. By the time the consumer getting disapointed with the gameplay loop they had already bought the game
@iVETAnsolini
@iVETAnsolini 2 месяца назад
What Xbox and Microsoft is saying, is basically what someone trying to run a Monopoly would say
@qcbelzebuth7083
@qcbelzebuth7083 2 месяца назад
Yep, the monopoly game was always the goal of capitalism.
@1mariomaniac
@1mariomaniac 4 дня назад
At this point basically all games I play/buy have been indie or emulated because the quality as of late has just gone down the drain.
@user-bs1um6hi1e
@user-bs1um6hi1e 2 месяца назад
This is so true that it's depressing. The idea of exponential growth is evil and unattainable. Enough is never enough
@kaden-sd6vb
@kaden-sd6vb 2 месяца назад
Corporations are quite literally a cancer on the world
@lucazani2730
@lucazani2730 2 месяца назад
The fun fact is that in this exact industry, exponential growth COULD BE possible. It's just the system which is fucked up. With modern hardware and graphics engine people could just work on virtual assets to make game programming much easier and faster so that people could potentially make a masterpiece in months. But why no one is doing this? Because neither virtual assets nor masterpieces are profitable. It is profitable to just milk a franchise which had 2 to 3 masterpieces like 15 to 25 years ago until people from loving it start to hate it. That's what happened with basically every popular franchise except maybe two or three
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 12 дней назад
There is a word for that in a finite body that has limits but it only cares for infinite growth Cancer
@solarflaredragoon
@solarflaredragoon 2 месяца назад
It's because many developers also keep making games that no one wants, while also sitting on gold mine titles for DECADES.
@alekjanowski9847
@alekjanowski9847 2 месяца назад
#BRINGBACKTHESABOTEUR
@jonathanpretty5031
@jonathanpretty5031 2 месяца назад
Very true! Bring back Tenchu! Metal Gear! And other games I can't remember right now.
@solarflaredragoon
@solarflaredragoon 2 месяца назад
Some examples for me are The Legend of Dragoon, Dark Cloud/Chronicle Series, KOTOR(which they say is still being remade but its taking decades to complete), Jak and Daxter(they brought back Crash Bandicoot), Summoner Series, etc. There are way more of course, but just throwing some out there. I'm just tired of developers making 1 or 2 games and just moving on and abandoning their fans and these worlds they have created for them.
@S15Sl8ER
@S15Sl8ER 2 месяца назад
**Publishers
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 2 месяца назад
It’s run by people who understand nothing about gaming
@AJHornet1
@AJHornet1 26 дней назад
Nintendo is the standard bearers for good long term business sense in the video game industry.
@mastergreenfox6004
@mastergreenfox6004 Месяц назад
This is like an abusive relationship where if you do not surpass the absolute best that currently exist by huge margin, you are worthless. And if against all odds that you do, now you need to do it again with your prior work now being your own opponent.
@jimharrison2513
@jimharrison2513 2 месяца назад
Imagine if a 120 million dollar budget film raked in 350 million dollars and the studio said it's a failure? Lol I don't have to imagine it actually happened. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix budget was 150 -200 million dollars and made 942.2 million dollars and according to WB it lost them 167 million dollars. Even with marketing that math ain't mathing lol. So it's not just the games industry. There's a saying in Hollywood about no films are ever profitable or something like that.
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 2 месяца назад
If the corporate investors stopped being so greedy. A 100% profit would be a god send
@victortoba-ogunleye4056
@victortoba-ogunleye4056 2 месяца назад
That was WB cooking the books to avoid taxes
@victortoba-ogunleye4056
@victortoba-ogunleye4056 2 месяца назад
The actual movie with marketing cost around 400-450 million, theatres will take their cut which is around 30-40%, this still leaves them with around 200 million Dollars. The loss was because they cooked the books to avoid taxes.
@ms_heisenbug
@ms_heisenbug 2 месяца назад
Yeah, because movie needs to make like 2.5-3 times its production budget. Part of it is marketing, sure, but there's also theathers and actors' pay which is ridiculous nowadays. It's disgusting and helpless. Edit: actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if making movies is a way for money laundering because those costs are ridiculous.
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 2 месяца назад
Most likely is a ML scheme a 5th of the time
@xeikai
@xeikai 2 месяца назад
The sooner big money gets out of gaming the better.
@fligsnurt7835
@fligsnurt7835 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately to make big money leave gaming, the customers have to not be idiots willing to buy brand loyalty.
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 2 месяца назад
Yeah thats unfortunately not going to happen anytime soon if ever.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 2 месяца назад
But big money is the only way to get awesome games like Devil May Cry, Halo 3, Assassins Creed 2, Modern Warfare 2007, GTA San Andreas etc. Indie games aren't capable of making such titles.
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 2 месяца назад
@@ninochaosdrache3189those amazing games were made back when their studios were small. Big money came in AFTER those games succeeded
@user-gb4jy6sp4u
@user-gb4jy6sp4u 2 месяца назад
@@ninochaosdrache3189 Yes, they are.
@midnightshade32
@midnightshade32 Месяц назад
Black rock, vanguard, esg/dei is killing entertainment. You can't make a property aimed at everyone or you will please no one. Anytime you here "modern audiences" be concerned.
@alt3r3dstat35
@alt3r3dstat35 Месяц назад
I think people are just getting bored with the video game concept of Open world, go and fetch quests and game bloat, it turns gaming into a chore, beautiful fluid graphics can only wow you for so long before you get use to them and then the gaming loop hits you ands its very much yet another fetch and come back game world with fighting controls that are either convoluted and way too complicated and fiddly or the opposite of that, too easy and simple. I really don't know what format a video game can take other than that, it's like the same deal with Music and Movies.....it's like we have had decades of creativity with all this and its now hit the wall, its like we are out of creative choices and so everything just becomes a rehash.......GTA6 will no doubt look amazing, sound amazing and give you that very real amazing feeling of a active and alive game world , but its still gonna be fetch and collect quests and run and gun quests and thats it........games may have enough quests and side quests for 100 plus hours but very seldom do people complete these games because you just get bored of doing it, it becomes a chore like I said earlier........I really don't know what the next leap forward will be for video games, you might say VR but that doesn't change the game it just changes the way it's viewed.....I think were just creatively spent so much more than a few decades ago.
@someguy760
@someguy760 Месяц назад
There have been so many great games, movies, and music created over decades of time that we have more than enough to keep us entertained for *multiple* *life* *times* . I just feel kind of sorry for kids these days. It would be hard for many of them to imagine a time like the early 2000s when there were tons of unique and fun games coming out every year.
@aruce9
@aruce9 2 месяца назад
I feel like what you’re describing is the endgame for another games industry crash. Where publishers in their greed either pull out or reinvent themselves leaving indies to inherit the industry and rebirth it
@matthewzumbo9868
@matthewzumbo9868 2 месяца назад
We seem to be heading towards that conclusion. Double AA games will inherit the industry
@NikolaiMihailov1
@NikolaiMihailov1 2 месяца назад
The industry died when bean counters got involved. It died when investment firms got involved(Blackrock and all of its subsidies) It died when consoles became the norm and people took the slop and asked for seconds.
@jaythomas468
@jaythomas468 2 месяца назад
I agree with your first two points but consoles have been the “mainstream” method to access games for 30+ years and I don’t really see that changing unless there’s some kind of revolution in access (maybe eventually smart TVs will have enough processing power and/or PCIE + USB ports to hook some simple peripherals up to and game on them natively) because I don’t think PCs will ever become the norm because too many people (especially among the working class) ARE NOT “computer savvy” at all.
@NikolaiMihailov1
@NikolaiMihailov1 2 месяца назад
@jaythomas468 I know this. However they are also closed loop systems. Consumers do not own their media with the current(and most likely future) console generations. I'm not against consoles as a concept. I'm against them because Sony,Nintendo,M$ have all conditioned their consumers to buy slop after slop every year while they pay more for less. Consoles should be the gateway to gaming. But they are becoming too restrictive.
@jaythomas468
@jaythomas468 2 месяца назад
@@NikolaiMihailov1 I hear you which is why I buy (almost) everything physical, but I generally don’t have too much of a problem paying full-price for games so long as the quality is present since we’ve actually been eating pretty good in terms of having games that offer much, much more potential HOURS than before while MSRP stayed relatively THE SAME. The irony with PC, though, too, is that a lot of people buy and use Steam without question even though Steam is still EFFECTIVELY DRM. But I guess at least on PC, you have “other avenues” if a game becomes inaccessible.
@Xelliz
@Xelliz 2 месяца назад
​@@jaythomas468exactly, it's tiring when people cry about console gamers and their evils when embracing Steam since inception with a fervor seen only in cults.
@NikolaiMihailov1
@NikolaiMihailov1 2 месяца назад
@@Xelliz I don't like steam either. I miss physical media.
@ajedi0770
@ajedi0770 Месяц назад
Lonely men that needed to be with other people online and play shooters is what really killed the video game industry, because you killed every other genre, so all the companies went out of business
@robinfox4440
@robinfox4440 2 месяца назад
"Gaming is dead" say gamers who have just gotten Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, and more indie games available for sale than has ever been.
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 2 месяца назад
If the executives weren't getting giant bonuses, and they weren't paying off reviewers, triple a games would cost half as much to make. Guaranteed
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 2 месяца назад
The entire model needs to go. Top ➡️Bottom Left ▶️ Right And everything outside of it.
@jjmax981
@jjmax981 2 месяца назад
Xbox management needs to step down.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque 2 месяца назад
They never will.. MS will just pour money into them just to try to suck talent out of the market, its the only way they can compete.. ..it seems there will always be xbots like a dog cowering in the corner tail tucked, but i swear most of the engagement i see trying to control the narrative, are xbox marketing posing as consumers.. its wild..
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 2 месяца назад
Sony and Nintendo aren't much better at this point. Steam it's also just as evil.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 2 месяца назад
Management is only implementing the directives of directors.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 2 месяца назад
@@johndodo2062 At least Sony and Nintendo make great games, something that XBOX didn't manage to do in over 10 years.
@MeowieGamer
@MeowieGamer 2 месяца назад
@@ninochaosdrache3189*cough* hi-fi rush came out last year *cough*
@ModeSOLOgaming
@ModeSOLOgaming Месяц назад
There's so many layers to this issue. One I want to add is the drama around Sweet Baby Inc. a decent amount of games involved with them have performed below expectations. With a lot of informed gamers refusing to open their wallet out of a desire to not be preached or support ideas they see as morally corrupt. No matter what side of the argument you stand on, you can't deny the negative impact DEI has had on the industry. And not just within gaming.
@jeffclark1164
@jeffclark1164 2 месяца назад
For me gaming died when most games focused on online multi-player, PVP, and designers had to dumb down interfaces on PC games for consoles. I just want to play a game by myself, be able to see all the content without having to group with people, and be able to use my entire keyboard for menus instead of having to click around through nested menus.
@TwoHandedChargedBonk
@TwoHandedChargedBonk 2 месяца назад
The decision to shut down the successful AA studios to cut costs is as brain dead from the business perspective as it is from the gaming side of things. Is it similar to a tech company shutting down its R&D to save money. Yes, it might improve the results for a few quarters or even years, but it is a guaranteed failure long-term. Like, you can be outcompeted if you don't do it, but you *will* be if you do it.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 2 месяца назад
You ask too much from these assholes
@Triniarin
@Triniarin 2 месяца назад
Well, i think MS will close their console business, and they will get profit from publishing their majour games on other platforms.
@Rastayeti666
@Rastayeti666 2 месяца назад
keep the market small, limit competitioners. EA does exactly this since 25 years. As indi-games were on the rise the big players bought them and closed them after a while, has nothing to do with shareholders
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 2 месяца назад
Normally speaking your comment would be spot on, but these aren't normal times. The majority of AA studios are already dead, as the creative minds that developed the successful games have all left and their places have been taken by activists and at best second, but more realistically speaking third or even lower tier developers. What the bean counters at Microsoft and other companies that bought the AA studios for prices based on past successes are doing is cutting out the rot: the activists who're just pursuing their agendas instead of developing new games. Why do you think all successful franchises have been mutilated to push agendas instead of offering decent gameplay?
@Rastayeti666
@Rastayeti666 2 месяца назад
@@tjroelsma a short look and you will see studios that developed Evil within, Dishonored, HiFi-Rush, Prey, a mobile developer etc are closed. None of these showed signs of being woke, sorry. To throw reality over board because being anti-woke is the same psychosis as being woke
@Hemestal
@Hemestal 2 месяца назад
Games aren't dying, the quadruple A, 200 million dollar games are dying. Like, you'd believe that after investing so much dough in a single project, these corporations would be very interested in making sure the games are going to sell but instead they make terrible, flawed games jam packed with mtx like some Frankenstein monster with minimal chances of living. That's why small indie studios need to be mindful when approach by these gluttonous corpos, because they are not trying to invest into them and build up, they are using them as cushion and scapegoats for when then patchwork abominations inevitably bomb.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 2 месяца назад
That reminds me the hosts on Kinda Funny and Cog on Last Stand Media were all for indies selling their studios and getting a bag full of money.
@cyberhard
@cyberhard 2 месяца назад
Movie studios claim movies don't make money all the time. Where do you think the gaming companies learned this "one trick"? Look up Hollywood accounting. The probably is these huge companies are allowed to get bigger and bigger still. The smaller companies get swallowed up and competition suffers.
@Neauxluh
@Neauxluh Месяц назад
I'm really just sick of playing as a 110 pound strong woman in every game or a minority.
@jpfan100
@jpfan100 2 месяца назад
I kind of think the big studios buy out smaller studios that do well and shut them down to stop them getting big enough to compete with the big studios like a fermi paradox anyone that gets big enough to be noticed is wiped out
@grumpynomad3551
@grumpynomad3551 2 месяца назад
I’ve been doing it for years. Buy a successful company and shut it down. Put my company there to replace and expand. Rinse and repeat.
@freshhands9461
@freshhands9461 2 месяца назад
Fermi Paradox is a very good allegory, unfortunately
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 2 месяца назад
I think you mean dark forest. The fermi paradox asks why when there should be so many alien civilizations don't we see them. The dark forest is merely one suggested answer (as in "The Three Body Problem").
@ItsMeChillTyme
@ItsMeChillTyme 18 дней назад
This happens in every industry now. It's been happening to the point where people start startups just to hope getting bought out by a bigger company. This is not even like a sneaky thing, they talk about it openly. VCs invest knowing this is the exit strategy.
@Gabriel-bt7ix
@Gabriel-bt7ix 10 дней назад
​@@grumpynomad3551wtf
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 2 месяца назад
Triple A is about to end up in another Gaming Crash Microsoft,Sony,and many others are destroying it. Indie is the future! Edit:And Nintendo(Reffering to the devs not the publishers) and South Korean Studios.
@homeaway5418
@homeaway5418 2 месяца назад
And korean games are the future. No Politics.
@MageJiro
@MageJiro 2 месяца назад
That's why it's sad why these giant companies buy up all these independent studios. They are getting dragged down with AAA. But yeah, indie is the future.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
Amen
@samfisher2141
@samfisher2141 2 месяца назад
I say let it happen, because this industry deserves it.
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 2 месяца назад
​@homeaway5418 lmao ok buddy those Koreans can't make a fridge or a dishwasher...
@A.I-GAMING
@A.I-GAMING 21 день назад
People woke up and realized spending hours and hours playing video games is a waste of life, how are you going to convince people to start wasting their life again ?
@Sineseol
@Sineseol 20 дней назад
Basically any thing u do is just a waste of time.
@Gabriel-bt7ix
@Gabriel-bt7ix 10 дней назад
That's not the reason....
@iridescentsea3730
@iridescentsea3730 9 дней назад
@@Gabriel-bt7ix That's 100% the reason for me, but I wasn't about to agree that it's the reason for most people.
@gemcrim5904
@gemcrim5904 2 месяца назад
Triple A games are dying because they have to spend 200 million dollars in advertising. It's the same for big budget films. I don't know when advertising costs went insane but if they find a way to advertise for 1/3 of the cost they'll make tons of money again.
@Lightsaglowllc
@Lightsaglowllc 2 месяца назад
Best games I've played recently were Helldiver's 2, Stellar Blade, Palworld, Valheim, Lies of P, BG3 and Enshrouded. None of those games are AAA. The AAA studios are screwed and are starting to realize it.
@stuflames4769
@stuflames4769 2 месяца назад
Nice list.
@lemonscentedgames3641
@lemonscentedgames3641 2 месяца назад
Yep all bangers
@memento_mori-v2m
@memento_mori-v2m Месяц назад
Elden Ring
@dondada6679
@dondada6679 Месяц назад
No one is good to me
@Zireza
@Zireza 14 дней назад
Try "Prey 2017" it's a great game
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 2 месяца назад
I mean the downfall of AAA games is a good thing imo, I want games to go back to being good instead of the trash we keep getting. And that's tbh is what the Indie studios are doing, they are the only people treating games as a passion and as an artform. the AAA scene ruined the video game industry and it deserves to fall, I recently played Saviorless, Crow Country and currently Hades 2 all costs 30$ and all great amazing experiences.
@ninochaosdrache3189
@ninochaosdrache3189 2 месяца назад
But Indies also just can't compete with AAA games. I've yet to see an indie game that is on the same level as Halo 3, GTA San Andreas, Assassins Creed 2, Dishonored or Devil May Cry. They just can't compete.
@lycanwarrior2137
@lycanwarrior2137 2 месяца назад
@@ninochaosdrache3189 Not to mention far more indie companies fail then succeed.
@gladiatorscoops4907
@gladiatorscoops4907 Месяц назад
AAA is dying, Indie, AA and VR are where creativity still shines. AA and Indie are basically where we were with games in the mid 90s. Excluding a very few studios (and Nintendo ) I see AAA as a sector where greed is the top priority the same as mobile gaming. And just as worse a platform for ppl to voice their own social and political views rather than creating great games that players want.
@christinekellylouisehaylet3724
@christinekellylouisehaylet3724 23 дня назад
People need to stop buying live games and stop paying for over graphical games, support the indie studios and the big companies will learn quickly.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim 13 дней назад
No the problem is not money it's management they could sell a billion games and still investors would want more
@devastatheseeker9967
@devastatheseeker9967 2 месяца назад
I think one of the biggest lies we're told is that videogames are getting more expensive to make. They aren't, companies are just doing bad things like hiring A listers or pushing ultra realistic graphics. There's also the fact that devs have gotten lazy. Which makes sense when you aren't incentivised to work efficiently.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 2 месяца назад
Exactly this!!
@nikosfotidas8543
@nikosfotidas8543 Месяц назад
Devs have gotten lazy???? My friend, devs these days work like SLAVES just to keep themselves afloat and not get fired... Do some research
@TheOriginalMcJunior
@TheOriginalMcJunior Месяц назад
This is so true, the bigger a company gets the less efficiënt they work in my experience.
@nikosfotidas8543
@nikosfotidas8543 Месяц назад
@@TheOriginalMcJunior Video games 15 years ago had less than half the features, were less than 20% of today's games in size, net code has become infinitely bigger in volume and way more complicated since modern games are way more complicated in movement, combat, environments etc... So yeah in terms of staff needed and time needed for development they are way more money hungry... Saying that creating Crash Bandicoot on PS1 costs the same as making a modern AAA game is ridiculously stupid
@VakovoSheggorri
@VakovoSheggorri Месяц назад
​@@nikosfotidas8543they never said that? Its common knowledge that the bigger something is the less efficient it becomes, too many cooks in the kitchen.
@Sparticulous
@Sparticulous 2 месяца назад
Indie and double A are booming
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
Yeeees sir
@RAM_845
@RAM_845 2 месяца назад
nek minute, the cult who destroyed AAA will come after AA, Larry Fink will make sure of that.
@justwait9822
@justwait9822 2 месяца назад
No they aren't, the vast majority of indie games never make money. Only like 1% are profitable. Lots of indie companies go out of business daily, you just don't hear about them because they were never successful enough to garner attention to begin with.
@RAM_845
@RAM_845 2 месяца назад
Weird my comment is gone
@The8bitbeard
@The8bitbeard 2 месяца назад
​@justwait9822 First, citation needed. Second, if true, I'm not concerned. The barrier of entry for game design is very low indeed these days. Everyone and their grandma can create some low-effort slop with pre-made assets and publish it. This slop outnumbers good games by several orders of magnitude. The good games largely succeed. The slop largely fails, as expected.
@davidaitken8503
@davidaitken8503 2 месяца назад
It's funny how so many of the internet pundits were disparaging everything Nintendo was doing compared to Sony and Microsoft for the longest time. Nintendo is the one company of the big three that have (so far) managed to keep the shareholders off their backs enough to deliver great games that don't follow all of the negative game industry trends.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 2 месяца назад
Aye. But hating Nintendo is like hating any game with "Sonic Team" slapped on it. The media has made it popular to do so, and mindless drones run with that mindset because it's not cool to go against trends. Sony was always worse for consumers. CMOS issues on PS3(2006) and PS4(2012), not supporting hardware like the Xperia Play, PlayStation Move, PS Vita, etc. Remakes of games since forever. But it's not popular to hate them for it like it is to blame Nintendo instead, so people won't.
@bluestripetiger
@bluestripetiger Месяц назад
What is that Middle Ages game you were showing in the background starting at around 14:04? It looks interesting.
@user-ou2tv3wi8u
@user-ou2tv3wi8u 2 месяца назад
I’m a 40 year old woman gamer, I just bought my first PS5 (first console other than Atari and Wii) just under two years ago. So I don’t really know much about what goes on behind the scenes, two things solidified my decision to start gaming, the aftermath of covid and the video game Stray. So far I’ve completed Astro’s Playroom, Stray, Ratchet and clank (the two newest games), Detroit Become Human, Heavy Rain and Deliver Us Mars. I have premium monthly so I can try different games and discover what I really like. I really hope I continue to enjoy because I’m having a lot of fun. I have come so far in skill since Astros Playroom 🤣
@johnbartender3451
@johnbartender3451 2 месяца назад
Detroit Become Human is such a masterpiece. This is the game that pushed my to invest into the ps4 ecosystem. I still dont own a current gen console. I’m waiting.
@user-ou2tv3wi8u
@user-ou2tv3wi8u 2 месяца назад
@@johnbartender3451 I love Detroit Become Human, I’ve played it multiple times. I don’t really have anything modern to compare it too, but the PS5 graphics are amazing.
@z0s_Icebaker
@z0s_Icebaker 2 месяца назад
I had and still have two PS2 consoles, other one got broke at summer cottage during a lightning storm, I was extremely salty indeed! I've been on Xbox since the first Xbox and now planning to get the coming PS5 pro console whenever it arrives, so I'm probably returning to Playstation immediately after few decades!
@user-zx3eo9qr9x
@user-zx3eo9qr9x 2 месяца назад
Good for you
@freshhands9461
@freshhands9461 2 месяца назад
Welcome to the club, Lady :)
@kojk2545
@kojk2545 2 месяца назад
Triple A gaming has been a complete trash fire of greed and incompetence for over a decade. Indy gaming and AA developers have been going strong, and innovating awesome games. Why are we mourning the death of AAA developers again? I say lets root for more layoffs, more reduction of the AAA space. If Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft or EA laid off 50% of their workforce tomorrow, we should all celebrate. Hopefully some of the developers that actually give a crap are able to transition to a studio where they have a chance to make a good game.
@adamtajhassam9188
@adamtajhassam9188 2 месяца назад
Correction AAA gaming is dead indie gaming is not.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque 2 месяца назад
Exactly, i hope Xbox and MS keeps firing all the great talent they have locked up working on projects they were promised they would never have to, Phil in the media talking about letting creativity thrive hands off style, and then make Arcane make a looter shooter with flipping vampires written by their DEI outside consultants.. bleech.
@ZacBoulton-wb5zy
@ZacBoulton-wb5zy 2 месяца назад
Nice point, the bright side of layoffs, really good thinking dude!
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 2 месяца назад
The problem of people are losing jobs because of dickhead shareholders and CEOs
@lolrus5555
@lolrus5555 2 месяца назад
At the moment, the only fucking thing I'm mourning from AAA gaming and Xbox's protracted death is Tango Gameworks getting royally screwed and the painful thought that we won't see any more Hi-Fi Rush content... well, Hi-Fi Rush content that isn't a soulless cash-grab, anyway.
@PowderedVoltage
@PowderedVoltage 17 дней назад
Gamers aren't blame free. They were enablers to a whole lot of abhorrent monetization practices. Live services, microtransactions, loot boxes, etc. Those practices thrived for a long time, because enough gamers supported it. We played a massive role in making the industry worse.
@YaaSalty...0_o
@YaaSalty...0_o 2 месяца назад
Really appreciate this video you've taken a lot of my thoughts and put them into words.. I get upset at the situation and then my thoughts get clouded
@SVW1976
@SVW1976 2 месяца назад
Gamers willingly bought every piece of garbage put in front of their faces.
@ddaymace
@ddaymace 2 месяца назад
This is part of the reason AAA can release unfinished and patch later. Gamers preorder and have to wait so long they'll play anything instead of waiting longer and voting with their wallets
@ItsMeChillTyme
@ItsMeChillTyme 18 дней назад
Yep, there's a huge market of normies. I mean look at Joe Rogan and his buddies talk about games, they talk like its the best thing ever. He even did ads for AC Valhalla praising it lol. The "gamers" got replaced with people that just want to do chores while high.
@MrArrow54
@MrArrow54 2 месяца назад
Hard to feel bad for these studios. If they hadn't sold out to corporate interests they could have maintained control over their future.
@matthewzumbo9868
@matthewzumbo9868 2 месяца назад
Yup, they chose political brainwashing instead of making what players want
@AlyssaMcNeil
@AlyssaMcNeil 2 месяца назад
This, exactly, the moment a studio sells itself, it's pretty much dead.
@Lightsaglowllc
@Lightsaglowllc 2 месяца назад
Correct.
@JamieJonesanimator
@JamieJonesanimator 2 месяца назад
But that isn't Tango's fault they were always a AA Japanese developer who made great games people loved. Zenimax bought their parent company Bethesda then Microsfot bought Zenimax which is obvious now all they really wanted from the deal was Starfield, Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Tango already had the innovative title HiFi rush pretty much already made at that time and despite it succeeding in the words of Microsoft in all key measurements. Microsoft canned them anyway probably because they didn't fit what the suits and corpos at Microsoft wanted from the deal in the first place. I even suspect people at Xbox were annoyed HiFi Rush did so well because games like that aren't what they want on their system going forward.
@MrArrow54
@MrArrow54 2 месяца назад
@@JamieJonesanimator that's untrue tango was its own studio that was founded in may 2010. They ran into money issues and bethesda came to their aid and asked zenimax to buy them in oct 2010. They sold out to a corporation in order to pay the bills. Totally understandable but they still sold their ability to determine their own fate and hitched their cart to zenimax.The sad thing is they started a company that couldn't keep the lights on for a whole year before running out of cash and needing to sell out. They were then included in the deal going to microsoft but that doesn't make them any less responsible for selling out to corpos like zenimax in the first place. They became a commodity to be bought and sold or shut down at the whims of their masters at that point.
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 2 месяца назад
When nearly 80% of people played live service games in 2023, it's clear that gamers have to get a lot of the blame too. Live service is the #1 enemy of gaming.
@BuffaloMotivated
@BuffaloMotivated 2 месяца назад
They’ve priced themselves out. $70, even $60 is too much to risk paying for a game that might suck.
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 2 месяца назад
I remember when $40 was only for the top tier AAAA games. And that was considered pricy. AND you got a hardcopy you could install from. Now you pay $60+ to download something that could be taken away for no cause and no recompenses a short while later and with to high a chance it's buggy crap.
@biazacha
@biazacha 2 месяца назад
Or a game you’re sure that you’ll have to buy at least two DLCs later….. no way I’m burning 100 bucks on a mess full of bugs and worst gameplay than the previous titles of the same franchise.
@darkguardian1314
@darkguardian1314 2 месяца назад
Never take a company public... It won't end well. Investors are the customers.. Gamers are just being farmed for cash to pay investors. Gamer since 1975... Only mobile games are left...
@krieg938
@krieg938 2 месяца назад
Mobile Gamers are being farmed for cash more than any other though?
@ginocavalieri6121
@ginocavalieri6121 2 месяца назад
I agree with everything except the mobile game thing. Indie games, actual indie games made by independent studios and not a game that looks like an indie game made by a aaa studio, are where the future is. Indie studios will rise from the ashes of these massive aaa studios when they burn to the ground and the developers who have been trapped will take their place to reinvent gaming as we knew it in the 70's 80's and 90's.
@kojk2545
@kojk2545 2 месяца назад
Yikes... you correctly identified the problem, and then came to the conclusion that "only mobile games are left."
@Uryen_Hirasakai
@Uryen_Hirasakai 2 месяца назад
Only mobiles left? what a joke mobile games are p2win, also its only for casual gamers
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 2 месяца назад
Mobile games are so horribly bad that I simply installed a PSX emulator in my phone and called it a day.
@theKonfusion
@theKonfusion 2 месяца назад
It's a shame. I studied in videogames (Bachelor) and then i moved to making Collectible statues, but Recently I wanted to go back to Games, but with all those layoff, or terribly designed games it terrifies me. If I do move back, I'll try smaller studios/indie. Anyway atmosphere looks better there too.
@ShuckleII
@ShuckleII 24 дня назад
Rich people never stopped using slavery tactics. They own what you make and therefore what you use. You have developers and artists that are ready to work, and gamers are ready to pay for their games, but they don't work BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PAPER. People need freedom to work, they need to start working what they want to work on, and ignore the manipulation tactics. On their free time, until the entire culture outgrows total manipulation from the rich: -Developers have to stop giving their freedom to investors. -Players need to stop paying for abusive games and start giving indie devs more money. The phenomenon of only the single most bought product getting money leads to a total destruction of culture and humanity, leaving only a single human with a single product.
@mihailos8701
@mihailos8701 2 месяца назад
Thanks for a good video, I think you're on point, and this potential explanation does has helped me to actually understand current internal logic of big gaming companies doing seemingly obviously bad moves - because they're on different line of thinking, which isn't good
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
Ok here is the problem tho, if gamers complain about the lack of originality and space given to new franchises in the modern industry, why do they keep encouraging the same financial models that ultimately lead to those pitfalls, a.k.a gatcha games, p2w games, mobile games and other shitty 4ss products ? We as old school PC/console gamers should unite against the mobile / gatcha systems and draw a line between that and what we value near and dear to our hearth as gaming. We should make it clear that we do not appreciate that in our games, and are not willing to support those models in any way shape or form, for what they mean to the future of the landscape. Imagine if 10 years from now, PC and console games were all monetized like mobile games, that would truely sign the death and the end of it. Hopefully we won't get there.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
@@C_H_E_E_S_E__B_U_R_G_E_R That's true and sad at the same time, because it essentially makes you feel powerless against the whole process. No matter how hard our stance might be, we just getting beaten by the sheer numbers behind gatcha/mobile games. Stakeholders will naturally lean towards forcing game studios to implement systems that encourage that type of models and economies, but thankfully we are seeing the opposite also whereas small indies and sometimes even solos capable of shipping full fledged ambitious and original games that do reach big audiences. The growth of AI + democratisation of tech and communication / marketing is an absolute game changer that's already shaking up the balance.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
@@C_H_E_E_S_E__B_U_R_G_E_R yeah totally, i like revisiting old classics the same way but the funny part is that the industry noticed that trend and started capitalizing on the nostalgia factor as well, just looking at the recent years and the number of remakes we had.. there is always this stinky smell about those, even if they are technically sound and in every objective game metric superior to their original, there is just this lingering smell of greed and overmarketing that surround the whole thing, makes me sick.
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
@@C_H_E_E_S_E__B_U_R_G_E_R absolutely this is truth coming out, soulless that's the best word to describe it as you mentionned. I had RE4 and Deadspace in mind when typing, and i have a very complicated relationship still with 7 Rebirth provided 7 R-1 was a pile of bullcrap designed to trap you in a trilogy for again more profit, but how foolish of me to forget about all the absolute dumpsterfire of remakes they made alongside AND still doing in other forms like when they butchered the entire Kratos legacy to made him look like a mortal boomer about to retire, the jedi games and upcoming joke outlaws, the list goes on and on it's endless
@snaykerX
@snaykerX 2 месяца назад
@@C_H_E_E_S_E__B_U_R_G_E_R the remake of demon souls was so crappy and egregious that i couldn't physically spend more than an hour on that game before uninstalling it and never looking at it again, just pretending that it never existes to this day
@jonathanpretty5031
@jonathanpretty5031 2 месяца назад
​@@snaykerX Christ! I hate that they took that hot model and butchered her face. Same with the model for MJ in Spider-Man 2. She looks like lord Farquade with that giant, ugly chin.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 2 месяца назад
As someone who has lived through nearly all videogame eras, I've never felt more infuriated and depressed, the way these corporations are behaving 🤬 They seem hellbent on ruining everything that was once so magical and constantly surprising. It's mortifying to see what they're doing. You summed it up very well man.
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 2 месяца назад
*"I've never felt more infuriated and depressed, the way these corporations are behaving"* That's interesting. I've never felt more infuriated and depressed over the way my fellow "gamers" have been behaving for the last fifteen years. You know what it takes for garbage business practices to thrive? _Business._ (I.e. lots of customers rushing to throw top dollar.)
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 2 месяца назад
@@bricaaron3978 Ok. Can't really disagree with that tbh.
@Kirabetas
@Kirabetas 2 месяца назад
The Jimquisition found something out 10 years ago. These companies don't want some money, they don't want a moderate or even a powerful success regardless of how much it took for that game to come out. They want all of the money, more than they've ever made, more than anyone can imagine.
@matbrown6961
@matbrown6961 2 месяца назад
It's the classic case of; people who know nothing about games getting involved in games. Money changes everything. Especially human beings who acquire too much of it. And it blinds them.
@kalega311
@kalega311 2 месяца назад
Western AAA sadly will "die" in the artistic sense and they will only make live service and MAJOR IP games. And I mean, like MAJOR in the sense like Wolfenstein, Rayman, even the revitalized Dead Space, etc may not get new games. Indie, AA, and Japanese games are where creativity and variety will still thrive.
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 2 месяца назад
Stfu about eastern devs... 🙄 they are exactly the same, you think they produce only gems? Mgs survive, Pokémon, ace combat those games have died.
@kalega311
@kalega311 2 месяца назад
@@mitri5389 I didn't say they only produce gems. I said they allow for creativity and variety to thrive. Regardless of quality, which is the point. They still pump out tons of non-major IP games, taking risks. Paranormasight, Little Goody Two Shoes, new SaGa game, Exoprimal, Pragmata, Kunitsu-Gami, new Atelier games, new Rot3K games, etc. all came out in the past year or will be coming out.
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 2 месяца назад
Ray... Man? What's a Rayman?
@kalega311
@kalega311 2 месяца назад
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 😥
@miguelcondadoolivar5149
@miguelcondadoolivar5149 2 месяца назад
@@kalega311 It's just a name I haven't read in a long time. I miss him and I despise the rabbids.
@julilla1
@julilla1 2 месяца назад
This is so awful. I hate this timeline, ngl. I know everyone has to readjust and blah blah blah. But why let go of such talent? It's sickening.
@dandee6331
@dandee6331 2 месяца назад
I noticed you mentioned "timeline" do you subscribe to the CERN timeline jump? Something is off. Not sure if it was a Thanos snap or a timeline jump but something happened.
@julilla1
@julilla1 2 месяца назад
@@dandee6331 no, just a turn of phrase to say that I hate what is going on now and wish it was different.
@dandee6331
@dandee6331 2 месяца назад
@julilla1 oh well there is a theory that is out there that we are not on the same timeline we were on 4-5 years ago....I have heard others discuss it. I mean shit is so weird now I am not ruling anything out.
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 2 месяца назад
Thanos is literal fictional character
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 2 месяца назад
Although something does seem off. Could be me though
@franzkuntschnig1320
@franzkuntschnig1320 6 дней назад
To be fair - it’s exactly the same in the movie industry. Invest 120M and get 350? - Failure. That’s capitalism. And many people? Invest in stocks. In the end no one wants to work to earn the many but everyone invests to expect more every year. That’s why the wages are that bad nowadays. Crazy system
@MustacheMerlin
@MustacheMerlin 2 месяца назад
When your company forgets that they're selling a product and not a stock and sacrifice the product for the stock, from that moment your company is on a time limit circling the drain. The really funny thing though is that the executives actually do know that, they're not stupid, they're very smart (usually). So smart that they know they're gonna be out with the big bag of money long before the time limit runs down, and then it's somebody else's problem and they're chilling on a yacht. It's so common it's a playbook, you can watch it happen in every company in every industry like a bad cliche where you've seen the story before and know exactly what happens next.
@ZwiekszoneRyzyko
@ZwiekszoneRyzyko 2 месяца назад
At least we got great indie subsitutes.
@eddieford9373
@eddieford9373 2 месяца назад
Soon to be not anymore. Big companies are buying them out and then shutting them down.
@sean7221
@sean7221 2 месяца назад
Then the passionate developers quit and start their own studio.
@SnoobaWookie
@SnoobaWookie 2 месяца назад
@@eddieford9373 They can only buy if the indies sell. More and more it's clear than selling your soul to big corps is a massive mistake.
@sb8481
@sb8481 2 месяца назад
You know who would be fine with a "dead" industry? Nintendo and PC gamers. As a PC gamer, when you factor in emulators, I will never have enough time to play the games available for PC and every emulator we can run. 😂🥳
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 2 месяца назад
Not wrong 😅
@lemonscentedgames3641
@lemonscentedgames3641 2 месяца назад
Yep gaming is just fine as far as im concerned as a PC player. Not enough time to play all the emulatable classics anyway
@adrianjuarez1162
@adrianjuarez1162 20 дней назад
Up until steam gets that Blackrock money Nintendo of America might get involved of you can put your money in retro gaming or indie. I think we're due for 80s style gaming crash.
@ItsMeChillTyme
@ItsMeChillTyme 18 дней назад
Exactly, I don't really get all the whining. I have enough of a catalog of good games that I'll not run out in my lifetime even if I never play anything new that comes out. And good games at that.
@zoltanz288
@zoltanz288 2 месяца назад
we absolutely killed it. everything that ogs warned you about happened. we didnt gatekeep the noobs and they took over. now gaming is dead. we bought the season passes, we preordered the broken launch versions of games, we bought loot boxes. and we keep doing it too. when the real gamers were calling for boycotts everyone laughed and insulted us and now everyone is calling to boycott this and boycott that. people warned about the dangers of closed,proprietary systems like consoles and now all that is coming true. they forced cencoring and mandatory accounts, because they can. because you let them.
@Jeagan2002
@Jeagan2002 Месяц назад
This is the same issue across tons of industries. They don't seem to understand that constantly increasing profit is unsustainable. They're not happy maintaining 10% profit, that percentage needs to be constantly increasing, or it's a failure. It's awful.
@Scarecr0wn
@Scarecr0wn 2 месяца назад
The infinite growth is unsustainable and I am baffled by C-executives not realizing that (or ignoring that). There is only so much you can do to put that arrow upwards, one day it will simply stop being possible. And that day they will realize they have little to no studios, no developers and artists, no trust from customers and the bubble will be fully burst. It´s awful, it´s all just awful.
@xiRePeNTx
@xiRePeNTx 2 месяца назад
This is probably THE BEST breakdown video of the entire situation. Even someone outside from the scene coming and watching the video will understand the corruption of this industry
@punkypinko2965
@punkypinko2965 2 месяца назад
The real reason? Corporate greed, ie, end of creativity. I'm not going to wear ADULT DIAPERS so I can sit at my computer non-stop for the rest of my life. I don't even play video games anymore. I'm just tired of being exploited, expected to play games for 60 hours a week and spend hundreds of dollars just to "be good." It's ridiculous. I do have a life.
@BVaccaro88
@BVaccaro88 Месяц назад
Love this bro! Earned a sub!
@fligsnurt7835
@fligsnurt7835 2 месяца назад
The modern gaming industry has been in this spiral for over a decade. We're finally at a point where the economy has driven people to a point that they no longer are willing to lose 50-100 on a bad purchase or in some of these cases, paying for a product they are later told they don't have the rights to play and don't own.
@Optimusj1975
@Optimusj1975 2 месяца назад
They are angry at Tencent for giving what players want and making a ton of money, while they want to have the same money by shoving THE MESSAGE at customers? Yeah, they make a lot of sense. I can't avoid to think about Digital Extremes starting to censor feminine traits at their game and Tencent forcing them to pull back.
@petervd6207
@petervd6207 10 дней назад
As soon as any corporation attempts to move to a subscription model, everyone loses confidence in them and the product dies. As an industry gaming is not ready for the shift, as a gamer being able to have access to a service where I can play most games for next to nothing. Diminishes and demoralizes the developers, producers, testers and everyone else involved in the design of a product. Yes it's a product, but everyone involved spends month's of their time on it to make it the best it can be. Something they are proud of and play themselves. Games are evolving stories that pull you into the world. Encourage the players to grow and provide extra effort to not lose momentum or charge through the nose for extras. There are thousands of games, billions of websites, trillions of adverts trying to capture your attention, that are all ignored. Adverts on websites make me go away not want to stay, it seems that marketers haven't evolved, when was the last time you clicked on an advert.
@laffingist218
@laffingist218 2 месяца назад
question: what percentage/ratio above production budget is typically spent on marketing in the video game industry? in film, the rule of thumb is you have to spend the production budget again on marketing, so a movie "has to" (very generally) make twice its **reported** budget to break even. is there some loose guideline like that for AAA games?
@trainyourdog7351
@trainyourdog7351 2 месяца назад
As a person whos been gaming since the 80's. I just feel like everything is just some sort of walking simulator, battle Royale or just another first person shooter. 🤷🏾 originality has left the building.
@M3TAN0IA
@M3TAN0IA 2 месяца назад
no, games are fine. Mega Publishers are dying.
@dominika3762
@dominika3762 2 месяца назад
The title does say Triple A in the brackets.
@Jolgeable
@Jolgeable Месяц назад
The problem is not with entertainment itself (thumbnail: "gaming is dying"). The problem is thinking that the area can only exist through the current industrial model. What an American thing.
@StreetComp
@StreetComp 2 месяца назад
There are hundreds of millions of people around the world who enjoy playing video games, are we all going to suddenly stop playing/buying games? The gaming industry will keep chugging along, with ups and downs, like it has since the 80s.
@chefvoyardee7681
@chefvoyardee7681 2 месяца назад
I don’t comment often, but your summary of the current gaming landscape is by far the most poignant and frank, and we all know it’s true. Great video.
@astreakaito5625
@astreakaito5625 2 месяца назад
thanks for that ending in particular. Lately it feels like everything I care about is truly over, but this is a good reminder that maybe we'll find a way.
@neoblackheart746
@neoblackheart746 2 месяца назад
I have just told myself no more AAA I will pick up the true indie games and that's it
@Argon1115
@Argon1115 Месяц назад
EA: monetize everything, at every possible point force in game purchases, raise the "rent" on the games and now the equipment.
@radioactivejman9015
@radioactivejman9015 2 месяца назад
We have an everything bubble of epic proportion. The chickens are coming home to roost.
@lycanwarrior2137
@lycanwarrior2137 2 месяца назад
Yep, game industry issues is just a larger reflection of the entire financial/economic system becoming unsustainable.
@VasagosAngel
@VasagosAngel 2 месяца назад
This got nothing to do with gaming. Every business around the world is doing this. Dig in and research it, and you will be surprised. And the only reason that it works, is because of people buying their products. Gaming is fine. There have been lots of great games last 2 years. More than any "normal person" with a real life values and priorities outside gaming, have time to play. Just stop buying the bad games, made for milking money and enjoy life 👌
@dominika3762
@dominika3762 2 месяца назад
It's not that there weren't good games, it's that the big companies did massive layoffs. So yes, it is failing, if you think you can't keep your employees in you company.
@rclaws3230
@rclaws3230 2 месяца назад
They're extracting western wealth so that when the globocommunist shift hits, the corporations will be in position to remain in power in perpetuity. And the socialists are eating it up.
@KaffeeSpot
@KaffeeSpot 27 дней назад
These Studios blew up into woke DEI hiring Top Heavy organizations that are so far removed from actual gamers, they have no idea what it is people enjoy and thus want to buy despite their primary objective being Profit...
@htpkey
@htpkey 16 дней назад
This is the most uninformed take I have read today. Shareholder greed is ruining the game industry (and many other industries), not DEI.
@ytd589
@ytd589 Месяц назад
Excellently said. Unfettered executive compensation and investor greed is completely unsustainable and killing not just gaming but every industry we love or depend on.
@ktrimbach5771
@ktrimbach5771 Месяц назад
Public companies are there to be mined for their value. It is not sustainable.
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