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There is no real Spinosaurus. There won’t be until a relatively complete skeleton is found or described from the rumored specimens Nizar Ibrahim and team have come across. The story of Spinosaurus has been told countless times by now, but I highly doubt all of the nuances of just how complex and convoluted the mess of African Spinosaurus research is has been dealt out in video form.
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00:00-03:55 Spinosaurus Background
03:55-05:53 Recombobulating Spinosaurus
05:53-08:08 Silly Sigilmassasaurus
08:08-10:11 Let's Beat A Dead Oxalaia
10:11-10:48 The Morphotypes
10:48-12:24 Spines
12:24-13:09 Quadrates
13:09-13:47 Cervicals
13:47-14:13 Jaws
14:13-14:45 Orbits
15:57-17:47 Individual Variation Time Authority
17:47-18:36 Robust Morph
18:36-19:02 Slender Morph
19:02-19:37 True Spinosaurus
19:37-19:57 What Does It Mean?
19:57-20:57 Diversity
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@KagurabachiDubs
@KagurabachiDubs 2 года назад
"Honey wake up, Spinosaurus got updated again." "Again? That was fast..."
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 2 года назад
Its become a yearly thing now
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
@@Deinobi once in four months actually
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 2 года назад
@@thedoruk6324 god dayum
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
@@Deinobi also sigilmassasaurus also returned and Indeed Spino is a huge mess right now
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 2 года назад
@@thedoruk6324 now that is a name I have not heard in a long long time
@alioramusman5650
@alioramusman5650 2 года назад
Spinosaurs is like a paleontological final boss it has a million phases.
@chadgorosaurus4898
@chadgorosaurus4898 2 года назад
And constantly changes its colors and parts
@lucassmith7770
@lucassmith7770 2 года назад
Paleontologist: This should be the last update on the Spinosaurus. Spino: THIS ISNT EVEN MY FINAL FORM!
@altithoraxperotorum5133
@altithoraxperotorum5133 2 года назад
It's like those video game character that gets a reprise every time
@parasitical-reptile
@parasitical-reptile 2 года назад
Lmao, so many stages
@niyampatel7956
@niyampatel7956 2 года назад
Or the moon
@sindieltaylor2147
@sindieltaylor2147 2 года назад
There's no doubt that Spinosaurus has caught a unique gleam in the eyes of paleontologists the world over, and I think this fact is going to make for a much higher chance of a T-Rex scale of knowledge over the next few years.
@augustusvillanueva2008
@augustusvillanueva2008 2 года назад
agreed
@WorldResolve
@WorldResolve 2 года назад
@Arita Akimichi they big fatty now
@stephengiles1356
@stephengiles1356 2 года назад
It will if more good specimens turn up for it. That unfortunately is the only thing really going against it. And most Spinosaurids Tbh.
@thedogman7846
@thedogman7846 2 года назад
@West West No it wouldn‘t
@chieckenman4432
@chieckenman4432 2 года назад
@West West It physically can't...
@aebhosor4835
@aebhosor4835 2 года назад
In every 2 seconds, a new Spinosaurus paper is being published
@kentrosaurusboi3909
@kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад
Did you read the paper by Hone and Holtz early this year? Pretty interesting ngl....
@aebhosor4835
@aebhosor4835 2 года назад
@@kentrosaurusboi3909 I did, yes
@alienstar2088
@alienstar2088 2 года назад
I can't speak for other Spinosaurus fans however, I can speak for myself and I can say that Spinosaurus interests me so much because of the mystery. Yes, when I was younger I wanted Spinosaurus to be this superior predatory monster that destroyed all in its path however, as an adult I now find Spinosaurus fascinating for its distinct features and ecological niche. Even if Spinosaurus turned out to be nothing more than an oversized sailed crocodilian, it interests me that it is seemingly the ONLY species in the class of Theropod to adapt fully to a semi-aquatic lifestyle, no other Theropod or any other Dinosaur for that matter can say the same. Sure, Spinosaurus' predecessors like Suchomimus and Baryonyx were adapted to catch fish but by no means were decent swimmers. What interests me even more about the creature is not what Spinosaurus is but rather, what it could have become. When you look at a group of animals such as the Mosasaurus and realize that they hail from land based reptiles, it really makes me wonder what Spinosaurus could have evolved into had the destruction of its habitat by rising ocean levels not been as fast as they had been. Considering Spinosaurus' already impressive size, being bigger than Tyrannosaurus Rex of all creatures in height and length, imagine what a leviathan Spinosaurus could have been when given the freedom of the open ocean. Perhaps it would have evolved to out compete Mosasaurus or Plesiosaurus but even better, perhaps Spinosaurus would've been able to dominate multiple niches in the prehistoric oceans. Even if Spinosaurus turned out to be a trunked blubbery seal or a semi-aquatic Dinosaur, Spinosaurus is the poster creature for the advancements we've made in the paleontological field. If you ask me, Spinosaurus is just as important to paleontology as Megalosaurus, the very first dinosaur found and documented. Watching Spinosaurus change so drastically over the years to where I myself can witness it further cements my love for the field and the species.
@alienstar2088
@alienstar2088 2 года назад
@@PedroRPFerraz At the end of the day, life is going to evolve for one thing and one thing only, survival. Though survival and combat can often come hand in hand, life seemingly prefers to take the path of least resistance and what is more least resisting than a giant murder croc with functioning arms? Spinosaurus was probably as large as it is in response to living with other massive predators. It probably used its size to intimidate those same predators. Really when you think about it that's the biggest flex of any carnivorous animal, why win battles when you can just be so damn scary no one wants to fight you? I personally believe that Spinosaurus was a specialist, sinking most of its time and resources into catching fish but I also think it played a role Tyrannosaurus Rex itself plays, the role of bully. I believe Spinosaurus used its size in order to bully other carnivorous Dinosaurs from their kills when the opportunity presented itself, why else would there be signs of conflict from these large predators in the fossil record if that was not the case? Other large carnivores didn't feed on fish as it did and they most likely didn't view Spinosaurus as prey so the only other option is being faced with competition. So at the very least, we Spinosaurus fans can take solace in the battle department using this argument. Spinosaurus was literally so large and scary that it encouraged other predators not to mess with it unless it was stealing their food and even then they wouldn't want to most of the time.
@randomgoblinmanthatlikeska6177
@randomgoblinmanthatlikeska6177 2 года назад
Yeah. I’m not reading this.
@randomgoblinmanthatlikeska6177
@randomgoblinmanthatlikeska6177 2 года назад
To much for my -0 iq.
@rodrigopinto6676
@rodrigopinto6676 2 года назад
Spinosaurus is just LONGER compared to fucking powerfull TANK like tyrannosaurus.
@Official_Rz
@Official_Rz 2 года назад
Big brain and emotional. I love the way you've put this.
@FakeSugarVillain
@FakeSugarVillain 2 года назад
Next Spino development will be like "New fossils suggests we've been reconstructing Spinosaurus backwards, actually it had a second head at the end of the tail "
@kentrosaurusboi3909
@kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад
Heck, while you're at it, give them a feathered sail that can freaking glow XD.
@chubibi06
@chubibi06 2 года назад
​@@kentrosaurusboi3909 Spinosaurus swam on its back ! Its sail is actually a keel !
@kentrosaurusboi3909
@kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад
@@chubibi06 XD I love that!
@ShadowFungus
@ShadowFungus 2 года назад
Another updated version: it’s composed of 3 heads
@siewpeisi9937
@siewpeisi9937 3 месяца назад
No no it had wings could breathe fire used tiktok had a long tongue and smoked
@laughinglaughing1416
@laughinglaughing1416 2 года назад
Spinosaurus: This isn't even my final form
@hopetagulos
@hopetagulos 2 года назад
Final form: chinese dragon 🐉😅
@sorrowtw
@sorrowtw Год назад
@@hopetagulos ah shit here we go again
@Gilicus18793420blazingfury
@Gilicus18793420blazingfury 2 года назад
Alrite, what I learned from this video 16:13 minutes in. Fossils kept in private collections needed to be steal-I mean taken and studied immediately.
@Never_heart
@Never_heart 2 года назад
Not really, not much can be learned from fossils or artefacts whose context wasn't properly recorded and that is before you get to the very high likelihood that the bones in those composite fossils are usually heavily modified to hide the composite nature
@osvaldocortes4598
@osvaldocortes4598 2 года назад
More like they shouldn't be in private hands in the first place. Private collectors who want something "impressive" and "unique" and both hold on to important specimens and encourage the poaching and indiscriminate trade of fossils are a blight on science.
@PintoRagazzo
@PintoRagazzo 2 года назад
@@Never_heart Your comment is even more of an argument for "Private collections shouldn't exist at all, given that they muddle what we could've learned from fossils by a) hoarding them, b) not recording their discovery properly, c) modifying them unrecognizably d) not studying them at all" Capitalism can't stop its tendrils from seeping into the most unexpected of places.
@ksprice45
@ksprice45 2 года назад
We got some commies in the comments. Property is property. Taking something that isn’t yours is wrong. Work with the people and see if they’d let you study it.
@Never_heart
@Never_heart 2 года назад
@@ksprice45 they are always stolen property. Never are private collections legally obtained. Hell a good amount of the collections in major museums were stolen. Literally almost every artefact on display in the London Metropolitan Museum and much of what is on display in the Smithsonian was stolen from other countries and smuggled to these locations.
@callsingadder
@callsingadder 2 года назад
Different thicknesses of the sail could be a sexual dimorpisismum
@oppolacoste4989
@oppolacoste4989 2 года назад
And also aging up process too considering the shapes we have so far
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 2 года назад
could be a lot of things, we simply don't know
@c.r.blankenship9040
@c.r.blankenship9040 2 года назад
I was thinking about them in terms of Megaloceras (hear me out). When I went to Dublin a few years ago, I got to go to the natural history museum there, and on every wall of the first floor, they had Megaloceras skulls from end to end. This not only showed the wealth of Megaloceras skulls in Ireland (yes, I am defending the name Irish - Canada geese don't just live in Canada and nobody complains), but it also shows the variety in the antlers. Looking at the different spine morphotypes, my initial thought is that spinosaurus sails could have been as variable as antlers
@megatronyeets
@megatronyeets 2 года назад
Different thickness might also have something to do with different regions said spinosaurus was from, (ik this is barely related, but) like how grey wolves of the northern regions are on average larger than grey wolves further south.
@oppolacoste4989
@oppolacoste4989 2 года назад
@@megatronyeets Fair point, not to mention that it could be a different race of spinosaurus. Take in consideration that races can variate between the littlest details, that includes coloring, size and shapes of each parts of the body. Considering that those fossils have all been found at such distinct spots on the map, it is possible that certain spinos did adapt into different races thanks to different enviroments. That happens on modern days animals too, it could be a possibility
@justedd1774
@justedd1774 2 года назад
No matter what happens to Spinosaurus in the future,the spine sail gator will aways be one of my favorites Dinosaurs and i will aways like and accept it no matter how much it changes!🐊
@equarg
@equarg 2 года назад
I literally screamed with joy when they announced in 2014 a new Spino skeleton that had decent bones. Stromer (the man who found the Spino bones) lost almost everything during WW2. He was anti Nazi, but lost 2 out of 3 sons due to the war. His fossils were blown to bits. Only his detailed drawings remained. JP3 helped realized his dream of Spino being seen by the world. But that discovery in 2014 probably had his ghost crying tears of joy.🥲
@c.r.blankenship9040
@c.r.blankenship9040 2 года назад
Spinosaurus has been my favorite since I was a little kid, before it was cool. I ended up stumbling across the news by accident one time when I was browsing through Netflix when I had a cold one time - I came across the PBS doc about it, and I was super excited
@serpentmaster1323
@serpentmaster1323 2 года назад
Im sad he had to die in such a state. Imagine if everything you felt you contributed to the world was destroyed. Too many scientists who did pioneering work in their fields died before their discoveries were recognized. I hope we all can be happy for him.
@gatoninja4387
@gatoninja4387 2 года назад
Now they came up with another progressive stupidity that spinosaurus was marine in circumstances that if it swam it would turn around and the crest of the back would be down and the belly up exactly like the belly of ships therefore spinosaur was not marine and would have drowned in water .even if you make a spinosaurus model and put it in the water it flips upside down
@c.r.blankenship9040
@c.r.blankenship9040 2 года назад
@@gatoninja4387 I believe those studies (and indeed, those models) assumed Spinosaurus swam like a crocodile or early whale, but to my knowledge, studies wherein the animal swims more like a duck have not been performed, though I think it was postulated that such a posture would have shifted the animal’s center of gravity to where it could be upright. I don’t know if there would be evidence to back this up, but that is one possibility, and would also make sense considering the positioning of the nostrils is more like that of wading birds. Also keep in mind that we really don’t have a complete skeleton, and we don’t know what the sail was covered with. The exact type of flesh covering would likely change the math somewhat.
@austinstoner6270
@austinstoner6270 2 года назад
@@c.r.blankenship9040 spino has always been my fav too. I read a nat geo in prison about him back in 2013
@AmoniPaleo
@AmoniPaleo 2 года назад
Alright... *HOW MANY TIMES SPINOSSAURUS HAS TO CHANGE IN A COURSE OF A YEAR?*
@wor575
@wor575 2 года назад
Yes
@TheBigRhino
@TheBigRhino 2 года назад
Every milliseconds
@insiranomecriativoaqui6480
@insiranomecriativoaqui6480 2 года назад
Yes
@aryatejc8067
@aryatejc8067 2 года назад
yes
@colinraudabaugh9436
@colinraudabaugh9436 2 года назад
As often as science dictates. Sciences of all kinds isnt about knowing, it's all about the learning. Whenever we start ignoring what's new, we are betraying scientific fundamentals
@allstarpterosaur850
@allstarpterosaur850 2 года назад
All this confusion over a dinosaur because someone was kicked out of an art school.
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 2 года назад
he wasn't even let into the art school and too stubborn to go to architecture school, which was strongly recommended.
@toobey7692
@toobey7692 2 года назад
@@ecurewitz let the guy joke in peace
@Art-vw1qh
@Art-vw1qh 2 года назад
Me?
@buklau837
@buklau837 2 года назад
@@ecurewitz Have you seen the guys art?
@Bahouudis
@Bahouudis 2 года назад
@@buklau837 ngl it's really good
@Andrey.Ivanov
@Andrey.Ivanov 2 года назад
Spinosaurus has harnessed the ultimate power of being unreconstructible and is using it to wreak vengeance upon paleontologists and paleoartists, for initially reconstructing it as a T.rex with a sail, by periodically revealing new confusing details about its identity and appearance.
@MrKross-tc9yy
@MrKross-tc9yy 2 года назад
And destroyed 2 museums.
@TheBigRhino
@TheBigRhino 2 года назад
Spinosaurus itself doesn't even know how it wants to look and seeing that the most complete fossil ever was destroyed thanks to a goddamn war I don't think we can actually find a complete spinosaur fossil before the next few decades.
@seregagerassimov4864
@seregagerassimov4864 2 года назад
Agreed. I think real spinosaurs looks like his, well, modern reconstruction, but with a little higher legs and "half-circle" spine.
@ashtasheran6970
@ashtasheran6970 2 года назад
@@seregagerassimov4864 doubt the half circle spine but definitely think that the legs will be higher
@seregagerassimov4864
@seregagerassimov4864 2 года назад
@@ashtasheran6970 agree.
@claudiabarata6168
@claudiabarata6168 2 года назад
Also were destroyed bahariasaurus remains , so it's another dinosaur that we don't know too much about :(
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 2 года назад
Even that wasn't much to begin with.
@michaelbuono4007
@michaelbuono4007 2 года назад
I think a better title would be the mess of Spinosaurus history
@hope1575
@hope1575 2 года назад
Honestly if I'm ever rich I would love to have an awesome private fossil collection, but I cannot imagine just letting them sit in storage without being fully described and having their place in the fossil record explored! It drives me nuts that there could be so much information hiding in private collections like that!
@etinarcadiaego7424
@etinarcadiaego7424 2 года назад
I say paleontologists should secretly hire people to rob private collections. Rich bitches want to fuck everything up, even paleontology. You shouldn't be able to hoard knowledge like that.
@kentrosaurusboi3909
@kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад
@@etinarcadiaego7424 I wouldn't go that far but it's still a shame knowing that many specimens are gone, never to see the light of day (and research) again, who knows what we could've learned.
@TheAkwarium
@TheAkwarium 2 года назад
this is why private collectors are such a big issue. Artifacts, dinosaur bones etc shouldn't be in private collections in the first place, but in museums on display for everyone to see and so that scientists are able to study them.
@Envy_May
@Envy_May 6 месяцев назад
i think i'd just hold onto replicas while the real ones can get studied
@SlightlyCivil
@SlightlyCivil 2 года назад
I was reading a cool paper that basically integrated siggilmassasaurus into spinosaurus recently. They also implied Oxalia should be as well, hinting to more biological crossover between africa and south america
@enderman_666
@enderman_666 2 года назад
would make a lot of sense, you've also got Sarcosuchus represented on both continents, as well as large carcharodontosaurs
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
+Slightly Civil and now there *is* a New Publication that definetly differentiates Sigilmassasaurus from Spinosaurus as its own unique species based on reexamination of neck and backbone vertebrea the discourse of Sigilmassasaurus wont end anytime soon so I dont think reassigning oxalaia is that of a good idea
@SlightlyCivil
@SlightlyCivil 2 года назад
@@thedoruk6324 how new is the study? The one i read was 2020
@altithoraxperotorum5133
@altithoraxperotorum5133 2 года назад
@@enderman_666 sarcosuchus never was represented on south America
@altithoraxperotorum5133
@altithoraxperotorum5133 2 года назад
It doesn't make sense for implying that. First of all oxalia was only known by some jaw fragments and jaws look overall similar in every spinosaurus species. We also don't have anymore oxalia remains to proof /debunk this theory since the only remains of oxalia were destroyed during the burning of the Brazilian history museum. So overall i wouldn't put too much in that study since this was also once the chase for suchomimus and baryonx
@tscream80
@tscream80 2 года назад
Spinosaurus: "This is why the YDAW Patrons keep voting against a synapisode episode for me!" :P
@randomevotimes7784
@randomevotimes7784 2 года назад
Funny
@sampagano205
@sampagano205 2 года назад
You say that but the next episode is baryonyx, meaning spinosaur content is coming.
@tscream80
@tscream80 2 года назад
@@sampagano205 Are you talking about EDGE or YDAW? Because I can say with some certainty that the next two scheduled episodes for YDAW aren't Baryonyx.
@alioramusman5650
@alioramusman5650 2 года назад
Lol
@sampagano205
@sampagano205 2 года назад
@@tscream80 you're right I mixed up the second place winner with the first place, which is herrarasaurus.
@Draco84
@Draco84 2 года назад
Spinosaurus seems to have some bad luck when it comes to its fossils.
@menkomonty
@menkomonty 2 года назад
At 8:57 Spinosaurus: Oh my god, a flying croc!
@colk5373
@colk5373 2 года назад
if spinosaurus turned out to have a gun I wouldn’t be surprised
@professormccoyspopculturer8345
@professormccoyspopculturer8345 2 года назад
WATCH OUT THAT SPINOSAURUS HAD A GLOCK!! *Spino with a glocko prepares to use it with malicious intent.*
@GarryDKing
@GarryDKing 2 года назад
Spinosaurs are like the unluckiest fossils out there, bombed, burnt, destroyed. why does the universe seem to have so much misfortune to these bones?!
@rhanupradipta7100
@rhanupradipta7100 2 года назад
Bahariyasaurus, Aegyptosaurus, Stomatosuchus, and an Attenborosaurus specimen with skin impressions also suffered the same fate
@wreylax6068
@wreylax6068 2 года назад
The universe is trex fanboy lol
@trolgeeeeee
@trolgeeeeee 2 года назад
@@wreylax6068 lmao
@robertearhart4316
@robertearhart4316 2 года назад
I find it so infuriating to hear that so many of these significant fossils are unavailable in private collections! If these collectors "love" science and dinosaurs so much why not offer up their fossils for study, loan to a museum for a price, or at the very least allow them to be digitally scanned and replicated. Ugh, people suck!
@potatowaffle5653
@potatowaffle5653 2 года назад
People do but the fossil loses its value once copied etc and as collectors are motivated by this they will never change and allow copies to be made or donate the item or even loan it
@majungasaurusaaaa
@majungasaurusaaaa 2 года назад
Well, then you better get on their good sides. You're not entitled to studying anything.
@taz3810
@taz3810 2 года назад
Imagine the disappointment if the sail was just a sexual dimorphism display (I doubt it ofc, but it's funny to think of a new slap in the face by Spino, it's almost a meme now)
@zebedeemadness2672
@zebedeemadness2672 2 года назад
Personally i think the sail is a male display, not on a female, like with the Green basilisk lizard, males have a large sail, female has nothing as on a female it's a hassel in the way, thinking on how lizards, birds, crocodilians mate, they pretty much climb on the females back, a sail on a female would be in the way, if you was to make two sails and fit them on a pair Gharial for example, i can't see any successful mating happening in or out of water, imo same for the Spinosaurus.
@taz3810
@taz3810 2 года назад
@@zebedeemadness2672 That's a cool concept, and at the same time I hadn't think that my joke could make sense, so thank you lol
@trolgeeeeee
@trolgeeeeee 2 года назад
@@zebedeemadness2672 well all spinosaud remains been found have a spine aldo its an intresting idea as a male display
@zebedeemadness2672
@zebedeemadness2672 2 года назад
@@trolgeeeeee As far as i'm aware all specimens are all incomplete (some better than others), some examples, there are two specimens found one in Morocco in 2003 just the lower jaw. Another also Morocco in 2005 just the upper jaw, so not a specimens include the spine. I believe the current best most complete specimen was found in Morocco 2014, that included fragments of skull, neck, ribs, some spine including mostly fragmented sail bones, with only one intact sail bone and mostly complete legs and tail. The most complete spine sail bones with seven intact sail bones come from a specimen from Egypt in 1915, also had fragments of skull, neck, ribs.
@trolgeeeeee
@trolgeeeeee 2 года назад
@@zebedeemadness2672 true
@groque1654
@groque1654 2 года назад
The thing that gets me is how the skull is changed with each new reconstruction with seemingly no new material or very little material from the skull to warrant it. Really interested in knowing the justification behind that or whether I'm just overlooking/overanalyzing it. Noticed it mostly when drawing spinosaurus and seeing atleast 4 different skulls in just the 2020 (tail discovery) reconstructions.
@haroldhahn7044
@haroldhahn7044 2 года назад
The emperor has no cloths, and his spinosauruses have no bones! Each naked bum who publishes some bull shit paper in a "journal", based on one or two bone fragments, advances his career, and leaves you with one more fake picture of a whole animal that never existed. If they think their claims are justified, let them explain why they give you a whole animal, based on one bone. The problem is that nobody ever demands justification for their claims! It reminds me of the GARY LARSON, FAR SIDE CARTOON OF "THE BONELESS CHICKEN RANCH"!
@lucasjorqueraramos1438
@lucasjorqueraramos1438 2 года назад
@@haroldhahn7044 It is a valid opinion, but very wrong and without real basis; That's how paleontology doesn't work, you can't name species that way, and that's definitely not how science works. rather you seem to be describing a pseudoscience. To dismiss the work of the paleontologists who unearthed not one but multiple skeletons of this species and who, in addition, prepared and described said bones for their formal study, without concrete arguments, is not only pretentious but also unscientific. PS: the Spinosaurus skull is known, what happens is that it is not complete in any of the specimens, so extrapolations are necessary from several specimens, as well as from other spinosaurids, so that the way it is reconstructed today the skull of Spinosaurus itself is justified
@deathfoe8016
@deathfoe8016 2 года назад
I know spinosaurs has always been in murky water, but damn
@origaminosferatu3357
@origaminosferatu3357 2 года назад
this might be the best and most comprehensive spinosaurus video on the internet atm. Great job!
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
The thumbnail title summarizes everything so correctly Spinosaurus at 2021 is indeed *a huge mess* Admittedly even the original bio isotope studies concluded that the Spinosaurus having the least compereable differentiation from other theropods especially compared to other Spinosaurids as well as the Specimens and populations from Morocco and Tunusia showing noticeable Terrestrial habits and results not only that but a new Study indicated that the Sigilmassasaurus could still be a unique Spinosaurid species by examining neck vertebrea
@smilodonmaximus470
@smilodonmaximus470 2 года назад
Pretty sure there might be a bit more terrestrial Spinosaurids , But unlikely that they would be comparable to other Theropods
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
@@smilodonmaximus470 nope the bio isotope studies did actually and literally noted that among throughout all the results of Spinosaurids and within direct comparison to other theropods that The Spinosaurus as a genus shown the most similarity and least differentiation
@smilodonmaximus470
@smilodonmaximus470 2 года назад
@@thedoruk6324 do you have the paper? I have one another where they had diet mixing with Crocodilians where Spinosaurus did show diet of herbis in 4 specimens but idk if there's more
@zushibot8080
@zushibot8080 2 года назад
Not all spinosaurus have the duck-like neck?
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
@@smilodonmaximus470 the papper is actually available to everyone on researchgate sorry for the delay in my answer but I have linked the papper and for some reason youtube bots decided to delete it
@steveirwin3594
@steveirwin3594 2 года назад
This is fascinating. Thanks so much for the informative rundown! You did a really good job consolidating all the info into a concise yet entertaining package.
@Taverius
@Taverius 2 года назад
Creeping up on that 100k! 🥳
@altithoraxperotorum5133
@altithoraxperotorum5133 2 года назад
For even more spino mess some consider Ostafrikasaurus being a ceratosaur
@TheMajesticDoorknob
@TheMajesticDoorknob 2 года назад
Even though my favorite dinosaur is the tyrannosaurus I have to admit the Spinosaurus along with the omnivore deinochirus are probably some of the most unique and interesting dinosaurs out there.
@Kurenai1819
@Kurenai1819 2 года назад
Great video! The most reasonable and logical explanation on why we shouldn’t assume we know what the species looked like or even acted like.👍🏼
@alexandermackie7621
@alexandermackie7621 2 года назад
Can I have your attention please. Can I have your attention please. Will the real Spinosaurus please stand up? Will the real Spinosaurus please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here.
@JTSquirrel
@JTSquirrel 2 года назад
Aw crap, here we go again.
@pineapple7947
@pineapple7947 2 года назад
Lol
@thedogman7846
@thedogman7846 2 года назад
Ah yes, the good ol spoon and it‘s identity crisis. Would be nice to see something on the dakotaraptor/turtle sotuation btw!
@dynamoterror7077
@dynamoterror7077 2 года назад
YES!!! Tyrannoraptoran is an amazing paleoartist, and I’m very happy to see his Spinosaur thread made into a video! Once he is finished with his Lancian region fauna project, could you make a video about it?
@kuitaranheatmorus9932
@kuitaranheatmorus9932 2 года назад
I always love learning something new about this amazing spined back predator,and cause this video was very great. Also I wish yall had a great day
@brennis_the_menace3414
@brennis_the_menace3414 2 года назад
Used this for my Research Paper on Spinosaur, and you bet I put it as a citation! thanks dude.
@MarkLatimerRussell
@MarkLatimerRussell 2 года назад
Spinosaurus is like a villain in a bad 60 TV show. It pops up about twice a year to boost paleontology’s ratings.
@Anakunus
@Anakunus 2 года назад
I am no paleonthologist, nor am I a biologist. Yet long before watching this video, having watched other videos and read articles about Spinosaurus, I had learned how different findings and new researches concerning it have led into very different, drastically changing theories about what Spinosaurus looked like: How long was it? Was it bipedal or quadrupedal? Was it semi aquatic or fully aquatic? What shape of tail did it have? Just during the 21 century alone, all these things have been changing in its depictions, without there being a consensus in the scientific community. Eventually, all this conflicting information made me come to the conclusion that maybe Spinosaurus was not, in fact, a single species, as it has been portrayed, but several species of the same genus. This video has made me even more certain of my theory. It was a joy to watch.
@Rom-gv8ry
@Rom-gv8ry 2 года назад
Oxalaia is actually pronounced "oshalaia" because the name comes from the afro-brazilian deity Oxalá
@CaptainGrat75
@CaptainGrat75 2 года назад
How people are allowed to privately own specimens of ancient beings is beyond me. It should all be handed over for public study.
@eudyptes5046
@eudyptes5046 2 года назад
Fossils of scientific and public interest shouldn't be allowed to be in private collections. It's a safe bet that most of these private collections are in the USA.
@LittleMushroomGuy
@LittleMushroomGuy 2 года назад
The REAL real spinosaurus, not the NOT real spinosaurus we had the previous year, completely different from the fake spinosaurus we only knew from a few fossils that were lost during WW2
@amsquid3155
@amsquid3155 2 года назад
You’re videos are so cool
@AnicentLich
@AnicentLich 2 года назад
Really fascinating video
@vividsky1669
@vividsky1669 2 года назад
Truly the most underrated idea for a headache pill brand mascot
@youcancallmekevin3298
@youcancallmekevin3298 2 года назад
"this isn't even my final form" ~spinosaurus
@feliscorax
@feliscorax 2 года назад
Agent Smith: “Mr. Spinosaurus B, we meet again.” Spinosaurus B: “My name is Neotype.”
@EL_INDORAPTOR
@EL_INDORAPTOR 2 года назад
Spinosaurus is such a beautiful mess Edit. This video is like a “Spinosaurus iceberg”
@paleofan8717
@paleofan8717 2 года назад
Gei.
@EL_INDORAPTOR
@EL_INDORAPTOR 2 года назад
@@paleofan8717 Qué haces aquí Fred?
@ekosubandie2094
@ekosubandie2094 2 года назад
Surface Level : Haha, funny croc-dino goes swim Abyss level : Y̴͖̎́͜͝o̵͎̮̚ủ̵̥̣ ̶̢̯̙̀ĉ̸͔͑a̴̧̘͊n̷͈͋́͜ǹ̸́͋ͅo̸͘͜t̶̳̙͎͌̔ ̸͈̟̄̽́g̴̥̰̤̏͌̕ŗ̵̛̍a̶̳̩̒s̷̮̞͎̈p̸͔͕͙̂̍͝ ̴͇̝̈m̵͕̃͆y̸͙͋ ̶͉͇̙̉̽t̶̢̞̳̉̃r̶̪͉͐̎̕ú̸̥̟̈́͝e̵̻͙̟͠ ̷̦̼͉̈f̷͔͗̔̉o̷̢̔̈́̊͜ͅr̸͖̣̮̆m̵̛͓͊,̷̺̲̍ ̷̨̥̆̿̃y̸̧͓̻̿̏̔ȭ̷͈̤̲̈́u̴̦͚̒̍͂ ̶̗̄p̷̧̛̜̐͘ͅu̵̐ͅn̷̩͌̏y̸͙͐ ̸̪̉̎̐h̷̜̙̩̓u̵͉̇m̵̹̞͕̍à̵̧͚̪͑͝n̵̜̄͜
@Algeriawindows69
@Algeriawindows69 2 года назад
i think we should say that oxalaia is invalid because his bones are so fragmentary
@arthmann2
@arthmann2 2 года назад
That thing should be called "spinosauridae indet." and then left alone until more is found.
@kentrosaurusboi3909
@kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад
@@arthmann2 I agree.
@andreyleonel255
@andreyleonel255 2 года назад
Oxalaia being lost in the Brazilian's museum fire makes me really sad... You all can't understand how Historical and Cultural material is neglected around here :(
@albatross4920
@albatross4920 2 года назад
Spinosaurus-"it's not a phase mom, yeesh!!!"-egypticas
@Xxsnipedawg72xX
@Xxsnipedawg72xX 2 года назад
I like how liking dinosaurs as an adult it's kind of like liking sports teams apparently
@kiera_rdh6697
@kiera_rdh6697 2 года назад
So basically, we know next to jack about these animals and their features and even entire species are mostly fanfic. Cool. Amazing video by the way! I’m excited to see in our lifetime what huge revelations are made by future scientists. Just think about when people thought T-Rex used to walk like humans and drag their tails, or the infamous stegosaurus brain being in its tail haha. Imagine what we will know about these animals over the coming decades or centuries.
@alexjunior5774
@alexjunior5774 2 года назад
My favorite type of video!
@gillriet773
@gillriet773 2 года назад
This Spinosaurus character seems to get a retcon to its origin story and a redesign every few weeks..
@madderhat5852
@madderhat5852 2 года назад
Why would these private collectors not want to know everything about their specimen by giving it over to proper scientific examination ? They would get it back. Pasting together unconfirmed pieces with plaster, what's the point of that?
@AngelEmfrbl
@AngelEmfrbl 2 года назад
Fear of it being damaged.
@etinarcadiaego7424
@etinarcadiaego7424 2 года назад
That's rampant capitalism for you. Money apparently matters more than knowledge.
@darkgeneral0192
@darkgeneral0192 2 года назад
"this isn't even my final form!"
@BadAssXerx3
@BadAssXerx3 2 года назад
Interesting, I thought the new founds in 2014 would bring more light into this weird dinosaurs, now I think this entire species is a unsolvable puzzle with many weird shaped parts
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 2 года назад
13:48 Is that Spore music? Man the nostalgia.
@Cosmic_Arrow294
@Cosmic_Arrow294 2 года назад
fun fact: baryonyx and all the other spinosauride might have actually had webbed feet and a kind of tail fin like the 2021 spino saurus for swimming
@vangelisk.9306
@vangelisk.9306 2 года назад
Let me guess, it can fly now
@frostceratosaurus4276
@frostceratosaurus4276 2 года назад
Lmao
@benfuentes2118
@benfuentes2118 2 года назад
And can time travel and shapeshift
@Dino_king123
@Dino_king123 2 года назад
Yeah pretty much
@sirmagnumcat4996
@sirmagnumcat4996 2 года назад
@@vantagepoint9270 they fly now
@drecogaming5568
@drecogaming5568 2 года назад
Going to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if in the future we find out that the spinosaurus had a laser eyes and had 3 wings
@seregagerassimov4864
@seregagerassimov4864 2 года назад
Don't forget that it can teleport and shape-shift.
@drecogaming5568
@drecogaming5568 2 года назад
@@seregagerassimov4864 exactly 😂
@thelittleal1212
@thelittleal1212 2 года назад
So far their isn’t much that we have found to have a bigger of the swamp queen, in opinion either it’s behavior(how it hunted) was either like a crocodile 🐊 (swimming) or like a stork (waiting), But what do you think?
@alloraptorgen2
@alloraptorgen2 2 года назад
I think you have a nice allosaurus pfp 😄
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
+The Little AI based on the previous as well as the first bio isotope studies I personally think more terrestrial Spinosaurus is more reasonable and solid compared to nizar ibrahims entirely aquatic dinosaur proto whale thesis especially based on morocco and tunusian populations of spinosaurus that or the Spinosaurus subspecies have had differentiated to an extreme that never been encountered on any species before
@thelittleal1212
@thelittleal1212 2 года назад
@@thedoruk6324 I’m still kinda mixed, like that creature needs to have many mussels and endurance to be quick enough to catch fish, at its time their wasn’t not much in the water to compete against the spino, but on land it would have trouble with Carchar’s, but who knows maybe spino and carchars see each other on land like: hippo and croc
@techno_1007
@techno_1007 2 года назад
After watching E.D.G.E's Video on how spino hunted, I'm sad to say that it most likely was a stork-like hunter
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
@@thelittleal1212 Not likely to summarize that is the part where most people couldnt understand or doesnt want to ralize about multiple predators and carnivores coexisting within same habitat these predatoes *have* to Compete they were quite likely to attack eachother the best examples would be our modern habitats for examples we see modern savannas with lions wild dogs crocodiles phytons leopards and cheetahs as well as the south america where we see several species of caimans from smaller green caiman to largestbblack caiman to the massive orinoco crocodile to Anacondas Giant Harpy Eagles as well as Jaguars alas the Colossal Aquatic Predatory fish species all compete with eachother I could write even eurasian taiga northern forests where tigers bears wolves as well as smaller species like wolverine esque species smaller felines fight for survival whereas everyone knows about north american habitats What I am trying to say is peaceful docile coexistence is a myth that somehow perpetuated by a bandwagon it is inaccurate the so called niche partitioning definetly isnt the case for modern habitats alas we well know because of fossil evidence that the Spinosaurids arent restricted or obliged to fish there was a private collection fossil that even showed Spinosaurus bitemarks on a charcarodontosaurus skull as well as teeth embedded within
@niharg2011
@niharg2011 2 года назад
Me goes downstairs to buy some milk, *Spinosaurus gets a new feature*
@EmperorDixon
@EmperorDixon 2 года назад
13:09 Omfg the music in the cervical section reactivated the traumatizing Animal Planet cgi green guy in my brain lmao
@bonguswungus8405
@bonguswungus8405 2 года назад
You used music from Spore in this video! I love you!!!!!!
@calvin560
@calvin560 2 года назад
eventually they'll gain wings or breathe fire or whatevs
@Luciferkrist
@Luciferkrist 2 года назад
This ONE dinosaur is a perfect microcosm of paleo-sciences. Everything we learn only teaches us enough to ask better questions and give up on previously held assumptions. Frustrating as hell, but we constantly get more info and that is always fun.
@rossmelnyk1900
@rossmelnyk1900 2 года назад
Ok, I understand there may have existed different types of huge spinosauruses at the same time. However could you make another video by explaining and clarifying your view points on it For example what were some of those differences subspecies of Spinos that coexisted together?
@jamieward2880
@jamieward2880 2 года назад
Never understood why anyone would see this dilophosauroid headed awkward animal into a super preditor status when it's skeleton looked like it ambled and wobbled along on dry land.
@TheIrishTexan
@TheIrishTexan 2 года назад
Heard part of the soundtrack of one of the MechAssault games used in the video, but wasn't noted in the description's music section. Unless I'm blind or something. During the Cervicals part. Part of the soundtrack to MechAssault 2 Lone Wolf. The track "Gladiator", I believe.
@brohogany9920
@brohogany9920 2 года назад
Spinosaurus is definitely one of my favorites. Although not necessarily accurate I love seeing them wandering around the coasts lines in Ark.
@bulbasaurvines8992
@bulbasaurvines8992 2 года назад
AGAIN????? Deym this dinosaur doesnt know when to stop.
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 2 года назад
Sigilmassasaurus is a straight-up Wastebasket Taxon at this point.
@Joe-hh6ds
@Joe-hh6ds 2 года назад
Imagine it moved like a turtle instead of a conventional dinosaur. Pulling itself forwards.
@Firedrake-SP
@Firedrake-SP 2 года назад
I have some doubts and suspicions about the 2014 design, especially with the back legs being too short for the dinosaur. For all we know they could be the back legs of another theropod dinosaur. And now this weird tail paddle added for the 2020, it might be from a mosasaur or a giant newt/salamander. Though I don’t mind the design of the spines of spinosaurus, since that design could help spinosaurus out while fishing for fish.
@kentrosaurusboi3909
@kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад
As these specimens were found in relatively the same place, I wouldn't bet that these aren't Spinosaurus. And I doubt a mosasaur would have found it's way into the narrow flatbeds and deltas that is the Kem-Kem Beds.
@partymetroid
@partymetroid 2 года назад
The "neotype" painting is dope
@cellinemartins
@cellinemartins 2 года назад
I think it moved it's head like a bird, and looked a bit derpy like birds too when facing front, and it had slick hydrophobic(?) feathers or dinofuzz. Let's see if this turns out to be true in the future
@King_SpinoX
@King_SpinoX 2 года назад
My favorite dinosaur!!! They was from africa but some skeleton of them little bit confuse with Siggilmasasaurus and oxalaia they pretty similar
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
+King SpinoX and get that there is a new study that again differentiates Sigulmassasaurus from Spinosaurus based on reevaluation and reexamination of a highly noticeable neck vertebrea appearently the discourse of sigilmassasaurus wont end anytime soon due to specimen scarcity additionally because of this I dont think assigning oxalaia to spinosaurus is that of a good idea
@techno_1007
@techno_1007 2 года назад
Nice grammar
@insiranomecriativoaqui6480
@insiranomecriativoaqui6480 2 года назад
Maybe the real spinosaurus was the friends we made along the way
@claudiabarata6168
@claudiabarata6168 2 года назад
Can you make next a video about bahariasaurus ?
@johnnyrepine937
@johnnyrepine937 2 года назад
”Bombed Into Floor Wax and Ash,” dibs on song title!
@italucenaz
@italucenaz 2 года назад
I like the idea of Oxalaia quilombensis being a true species or at least a subspecies because it's first name is based on an african-brazilian religion deity and the second is based on where it was found, a quilombo, communities founded by ex slaves, it was one of the ways to resist colonization and slavery, if it was proven that the species is just a Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, the whole homage wouldn't be it's official name
@ernestp9321
@ernestp9321 2 года назад
There needs to be a spino update every month
@jaisanatanrashtra7035
@jaisanatanrashtra7035 2 года назад
8:54 Buzz off planet dinosaur for showing Spino scared of Crocs 😂
@Nikita35485
@Nikita35485 2 года назад
Another video on Spinosaurus?! That the hell with that guy!?!!!
@jugadug
@jugadug 2 года назад
Spinosarus is my favorite dinosaur predator i hope one day they find whether privately and we hope that person donates it or it is bought by someone benevolent and donated or on a local museum expedition, a semi perfect of perfectly fossilized spinosaurus that can put to bed most of issues of reconstructing and kick out what shouldn't belong, but one can dream i still find it hard to believe spinosaurus is like the dinosaur crocodile even if it was able to swim well, it would be just as capable on land i find hard to believe the posture they put it in when walking the legs look too short to me, and why would it have the enormous hand claws if it was eating fish as its main meal, all it needs is a robust long skull as those fish at that time were huge can't have a flimsy ghariel skull and claws matching have to make sense and the body looks too long imo but one day i maybe right i maybe completely wrong just need that semi perfect or perfect fossil.
@themorningstar3299
@themorningstar3299 2 года назад
Spinosaurus is just longer and slender animal compared to t.rex much more massive and robust animal like a tank with devastating bite force
@carnoraptor79
@carnoraptor79 2 года назад
@@themorningstar3299 No one asked for your opinion kid.
@josebuendiamartinez9944
@josebuendiamartinez9944 2 года назад
Spinosaurus over the recent years: This is not even my final form
@TheLucasdms
@TheLucasdms 2 года назад
We brazilian really are famous for samba, soccer and museum fires. I still haven't emotionally recovered from the last one, as was my dream job to work in there.
@seilamujkanovic3478
@seilamujkanovic3478 2 года назад
I can just picture every single paleontologist sweating profoundly just trying to figure out what the fuck is spinosarus
@magpie2349
@magpie2349 2 года назад
spinosaurus is one of those games that constantly update
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 2 года назад
i wonder if the huge sail can be used to keep the animal warm whilst its swimming? were they definitely hot blooded? i think dimetrodon was supposed to be cold blooded but had a sail (maybe they didnt swim much in deep ocean but lived in swampy areas.. so would kinda swim and walk also on the bottom of shallow seas/lakes/swamps.... therefore combining walking and semi swimming whilst having the sail mostly above water for temperature regulation?
@etinarcadiaego7424
@etinarcadiaego7424 2 года назад
Or maybe it's just an elaborate display structure. Birds today have some crazy and bizarre display structures.
@StudioMod
@StudioMod 2 года назад
3:13 I feel like we don't realize it, but that's likely a 100% accurate interpretation of the animal.
@shafqatishan437
@shafqatishan437 2 года назад
There's noway to know even 50% much less 100% appearance of a long extinct animal. The color is definitely wrong, their backlegs weren't strong enough to lift it's whole 7-9ton body. Also they could've had feathers
@StudioMod
@StudioMod 2 года назад
@@shafqatishan437 Doubt feathers. Yes about the legs, and the color is completely impossible to know. Likely gray, white, red like all other known dinosaurs.
@timjung640
@timjung640 2 года назад
A simpler way to explain what "sp." means in binomial nomenclature is that it simply denotes that it's a species of the genus and doesn't specify any further than that. 😀
@frith4707
@frith4707 2 года назад
i think being super enigmatic is just part of spinosaurus's charm at this point.
@Gilarack
@Gilarack 2 года назад
The real Spinosaurus is the bones we found along the way!
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