The reality of being a Pro Player™ 

Either a big ass fly or a spider

Flykido. It spawned as one of Tokido's spies after Akuma Gameplay showed.

thats such a cool concept

Yeah, we got click baited

@@B_Ahmed1234 He owes us a cooking video. 😤

People vastler over attribute the physical effects of aging to doing worse in esports. It's like you mentioned, less free time to dedicate to practice, and different priorities like actually making a secure living lol. Our aging street fighter pros in scenes that support them (Japan) are doing fine, with new talent rising up as well. There's no magical age where people fall off a cliff.

Basically, you have to be a BS’er. It’s why a lot of people don’t get taken seriously 😂. Like I don’t want anything to do with TRT gamer bros.

It's the primitive days of UFC. Think of all the fighters that had to go out and fight multiple times in a night and live off barely any money.

Hopefully things are a bit better this year for Capcom cup at least, as Capcom did say that they're keeping the million and that the split would be more in line with previous Capcom cups

To be fair the UFC brings in far more money off of one fight now than Capcom cucumber likely does off of the back of an entire circuit

Speedrunning is perfectly set up for someone like Summoning Salt to get vastly more views than any individual runner simply because watching someone do thousands of attempts is boring, but watching the best 25 or so runs ever over 10+ years is really interesting.

@@cltmck Well put. People forget just how many days and months of nonstop boring grinding some of these runs take to get that record breaking run to happen.

Almost everyone that has a job that makes you think "I didn't even know you could do that for living" started as a side hustle or just a hobby and paid for their life with a regular job. Even some title contenders in the UFC held regular jobs not even that long ago (Chael Sonnen and Al Iaquinta were a real estate agents, tons of guys run gyms where they make most of their money teaching soccer moms and children jiujitsu). While it would be nice if the FGC paid a livable wage for guys outside the tip top, that's not really a thing for the vast majority of sports and it wasn't even a thing in major sports in America until the 70s or 80s. Most guys either held down offseason jobs or fully expected to go to work like a normal person after retiring.

It's so strange to me that he's complaining about not winning enough money due to the time investment not being worth it. I thought he was playing this game because he loved it, not because it was his job.

I think punk is only half trolling when he says that. I think he understands the reality too, and like xian pointed out growing his brand is something he can work on and see the returns, while no matter how much time and self-worth he invests in competition it doesn't guarantee wins let alone money

i mean uma could be living better but uhhhh vtuber

Has he actually received the money yet?

Feel this. Working 40 hours a week then coming home and trying to have the drive to play and improve is brutal. Especially when you got family and other responsibilities.

i can't say for more recent SF (esp since i mostly checked out during SF5), but for SF4 it would definitely be a ton of Japanese players who never got that opportunity. The real eye-popping one atm is JDCR not having a sponsor, since he's been doing really well in Korea's weekly tournaments and is even a great streamer to boot!

Doing it for the love of the game first is always the most important instead of acting like it's your job. Any money you make off of it should just be a happy coincidence.

I'm glad this video did it for you but like... looking at Liquepedia or whatever shoulda given you the idea

The impression i had as an outsider is that BW was always going to be sidelined eventually just by virtue of being too old. From what i hear that scene is healthier than it has any right to be these days, when you compare to the doomposting around so many other esports as of late.

@@joshthefunkdoc the doomposting is not a new thing. Any time the new hot game stops being the main focus and the money hose slows down people freak out. If the game is good though it will keep on. SC2 came out in 2010 and people were saying dead game in 2011. Scene is still going.

We deserve to know

I'm pretty sure he just has Bulgogi

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I think you're right, it's more comparable to the competitive ecosystem of other esports there just bc sf is so huge. daigo is famous enough to have written a book, you can't say that about anybody in the american fgc.

at the same time its grandb'ue way more niche than an sf or tekken

SF6 is right up there with stuff like Apex & Valorant when it comes to streaming numbers in Japan - it's an outlier for fighting games at the moment. And Tekken has been THE biggest fighter in Japanese arcades ever since they adopted the player card/character-customization system from Virtua Fighter, so there's a lot of history.

as many in the fgc have said, you can argue it's a *good* thing the fgc has a different ecosystem than 'real' esports. it's community driven. evo is a marvel of staying power compared to the volatility of the esports world, and will remain so as long as lots of people keep signing up every year

@@QGfk1 100%

@@QGfk1 OK but Evo is also owned by Sony

and he barely plays the game either. which is cool i suppose. just pointing out that he doesn't have to play much to get those views. but he's also built a brand for what, 10 years? so he's worked to get there and deserves it.

@@gamersparadise743 I think Snake plays just about every night

Yeah, that's a higher average than a good amount of vtubers working for big companies (which take at least a decent cut of their earnings, mind you). Not really a one-to-one comparison since those companies can give their talent other kinds of opportunities, but it goes to show how well this works out financially!

@@JadeJackal4 he plays every night but not the whole stream. a lot of it is him sitting in training mode and chatting. which is cool. he can do that because of what he built over the years.

Reaction time dies down as you get older. If your 30 or older in league of legends for example, no team will hire you because of your “grandpa reflexes”.

At some point, you gotta weigh your options and do what’s best for you and your loved ones. If you have a spouse and a kid, it’s (probably) unrealistic to put in the time to compete at the highest level for a *chance* to come out of it with scraps. At that point, you’re just doing it for the love of the game.

@@usernameassistance9891 I dunno man. The world's fastest gunslinger is some old ass dude. I agree though that when it comes to physical strength, speed, stamina then yes, but for button taps, wisdom, fight experience and other light tasks then as long as you stay consistent and play or practice everyday, reactions will hardly slow down.

@@Zoran69 You could be right, I don’t know. I don’t know anything about guns. If gun slinging deals with high apm, then there could be a correlation between the two. Diago from street fighter is like almost 40, and he’s still probably a super top tier player. What I’m saying is that in order to “make a living” off of video games, you need to go pro / get sponsored. You can be sponsored and create a bunch of content (streaming, RU-vid videos), but that’s entirely different from being a pro player. Sponsors / esports organizations want the young guys, 16-26 years old with good reaction time and reflexes. After 30 your retirement age, at least in league of legends, a very big esport.

@@Zoran69 Everything you said is correct, except “reactions will hardly slow down”. 30-35 years of age and onward is when reaction time starts to dip. Whether that matters in gunslinging, I don’t know, but it matters a lot in esports.

Yes! It's not easy but respect. I do as well.

Ermmm what the flip

You just _know_ there's at least one guy somewhere in here saying this unironically tho lol

The aslume inmates got free again

let not forget about Saudi Arabia tournament because that is just as significant

You should watch the video of the guy that play esport nrs games young man

@@hectorgarcia5814 oh thanks for the reply!! Yea I actually did managed to watch it today thanks for the recommendation. It gave me more perspective from other people in general when it comes to this subject. Thanks a lot!!

@@JUNKAI_PC it was a really good video too, glad it helped you blessings hope everything work out in your favor

@@hectorgarcia5814 Thank uu!! U too man

LOL!

Yeah, that won’t happen because nobody in that industry has the balls to say no like Dana.

Are you talking to Brian or your own brain

​@@munchkin8465 Inspector Gadget if he didn't have robot parts

and the fact of the matter is, even for the biggest competitive games in the world, esports has proven to be a great way to lose money for those bankrolling it. it doesn't even matter if the audiences keep getting bigger, bc it just doesn't scale. as Brian said, the ways that sports actually make money are nonexistent in esports

@@QGfk1 Esports will never be anything like real sports. Real sports are static in nature and the games never change. While with video games there are always new titles or versions of games constantly changing. You can't invest in something that volatile. The leagues in Japan are the closest thing but still miles away....and simply aren't viable in other parts of the world.

while the nfl minimum salary is few hundred thousand dollars a year, nothing guarantees a player will be employed for a full year and practice squad players don't even get the minimum. the average nfl career length is only a few years, so that backup linebacker will likely make a million or so over his lifetime in exchange for serious, expensive, and long-lasting mental and physical health problems. when you add up the costs to the player and his family, the financial leftovers aren't enough to support a family or retire on in most places in the united states. he's working his butt off in a modern-day gladitorial bloodsport and playing injured and giving up huge amounts of family time because he knows he has to win personally every day or he'll be the first to be replaced by someone in the yearly influx of younger and cheaper players. after the league chews him up and spits him out, he'll have to beat the odds to avoid being in the 80% of players who go bankrupt after playing. but the full story is actually much worse because the nfl backup linebacker is one of the "lucky" ones in that he made it to the nfl, which has only a few thousand players. this number is a tiny fraction of the huge numbers of college, high school, and youth players who will never be good enough to make it to the nfl. the college ranks and below get all the same injuries as the professionals but none of the money. the nfl and american football in general is just another entertainment business where only a few lottery winners at the top get paid while the rest of the players get nothing and like it until they're forced into the real world only to find out they're years behind everyone else. make no mistake: the nfl is a brutal business, financially and physically, and nothing to direct children into or for the fgc to aspire to.

thats like saying even the worst brain surgeon makes more money than a lifeguard, as if its comparable

@@graaaaaaaaat Thanks for the extremely in depth comment, its rare to see that in youtube comments. but I do agree NFL still has a insanely high standard and risks of the job, but you get what i mean right? Even the 0-16 team gets to live extremely well-off, meanwhile the best fighting game player of the most popular and well funded game only gets to live at like twice the rate of minimum wage. Im not saying that the NFL is easy or that the players that are there arent really good, but theres a much wider net to get in, imagine being 32nd at an fgc tournament and getting hundreds of thousands of dollars

@@Kawi31 you're welcome and thanks for your thoughtful and polite response, also a rarity in youtube comments. i appreciate your effort to find a common understanding. i do agree that every nfl player who actually gets to take home the league minimum salary makes more raw dollars in a year than virtually all fgc players over their career, even the very best gamers. i also agree that some of the nfl player earnings aren't immediately tied to performance.

W mindset

The issue is that League has been going downhill as an esport in more recent years - as another comment here mentioned, their most recent world championship prize was lower than Capcom Cup's! i was one of those people who was saying back in 2009 that esports felt like it was built on nothing - i just didn't understand what companies like Intel had to gain from their logos appearing on a player's shirt for maybe a second at a time on an internet stream. Seems like i had the right idea, just that people were able to be sold on the idea that there COULD be money in this for a fairly long time.

3:57 oh yeah i think i saw that one 4:06 lmfao

Yo they’d better get something for that 5 besides sweaty dudes on a screen 😂

that's not what being a pro player is. what you're describing is a rich professional player. there are a bunch of professional athletes (olympians, even) in a bunch of sports that don't earn millions, but just enough to make a somewhat decent living and not need a 2nd job and focus only on their craft. that's what a lot of the japanese players have become. tokido, daigo, nemo, mago, itazan, sako, and around 20/25 others don't have 2nd jobs. all they do is play street fighter.

@@guilhermeberbertmost people aren’t them, will never be, and couldn’t handle the lifestyle. Oh and they are likely ugly 😅

Basically what fchamp does

@@sushi521but less weird and more nice, like hawaiian shirt man

League has a huge player base tho. I hope fgc reaches to that level at some point.

League is literally top 3 largest games in the world though. If anything the $100mil prize pool for league is small when taking into consideration the profits riot and tencent make.

League has a substantially larger player base and takes massively more money The viewership differences might as well be completely different realities. That 2M circuit was Capcom practically giving money away. Comparing that to league or DOTA which outright print money? Very different