THE Reason I HAVEN'T been DRIVING THE Supercharged BMW M5!!!

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THE Reason I HAVEN'T been DRIVING THE Supercharged M5 !!!
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@rotorshed4115 2 года назад

Good to see Dave and the E39 back on the channel.

@dr4109 2 года назад

Great to see Dave finally working on the M5.

@jmsterdam 2 года назад

I like this style of video because you are taking your time... Its relaxing to watch...

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Glad you enjoy it!

@xhf8yxhf8y9 2 года назад

This is exactly what I need to do to mine!! Great vid.

@Pho6oZ 2 года назад

The ending extra with the "awesome" I think is the greatest and purest representation of all of us playing with cars when we do something we were looking forward to do

@jasonhorvath4272 2 года назад

Always excellent content from you guys.👍👌

@friguy4444 2 года назад

Thank you for not leaving us out of the fun lol. I had other types of headaches when I had to do the subframe on my E46 M3. But After it was all done I no longer had the nightmares of the whole car cracking in two and tearing apart. Plus the new Bushings are sweet. The only problem I still have is the "Jack Rabbiting" when I'm over stimulated and take off from a light in a straight line. My "11's" look more like "Follow the Dots" and it shakes the car like King Kong is walking beside me. Unless I'm drifting and have the car going sideways or do an intentional burnout starting in second gear. Then the wheels are spinning so fast it's smooth. Keep the content coming gentlemen. I go into D.T.'s if it's too many days between videos. LOL.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Hahah follow dots. That’s what will break an axle so be careful with that right foot 💨

@marcwonnacott3286 2 года назад

Nice to see the M5 back Dave.

@kencooper8636 2 года назад

Great to see you are getting the rear end on the M5 sorted Dave. We need to see it back at roll racing. It will be interesting to see how much NVH you get from these bushings. I had a bad experience in the past when I had all of the bushings in the rear end replaced with Superpro bushings. The noises that came from the rear end were unbelievable. I thought Fulcrum had destroyed my diff with the noises and whining it made but it was just the bushings transferring the noise into the car. Fulcrum tried different rated bushings without success so I replaced the rear subframe with another which only had nolathane subframe to body bushings and M3 front diff bushings. All of the noises disappeared. I hope your experience is better.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

KEN!!!! I have no idea why but youtube has decided to put your comments in the spam folder, just found them. I am sorry, havent been ignoring you. I think your experience aligns with most from what we have heard to be honest.

@nfiftyfour 2 года назад

Wow I forgot you guys had a e39 m5. That is hands down favorite car of all time. Would love to see more content with it

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Once this is done it will be safer to drive hard so will have more content coming for sure 💪

@justjoshn5468 2 года назад

the engineering in that subframe! crazy

@maxmoughal5183 2 года назад

Great to see some content on this again Dave, I also installed those poly subframe inserts but on my E60 535d, which granted probably has much softer bushes than an M car, but made a huge difference without affecting the comfort at all. Where it used to feel really disconnected from the car the back end just feels nice and stable now.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Good to hear. Hoping this is the same!

@hughmongous6613 2 года назад

Where did you find those poly inserts for the e60 if you don't mind me asking?

@Scuffed_Andy 2 года назад

E39 content...yay!

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Its been a while. I just cant wait till its finished, so i can rip it properly.

@seanissomething 2 года назад

Great to see the M5 back!

@eriqrosado3337 2 года назад

I absolutely love this! I’ve been patiently waiting for this update. I’ve falling In love with this chassis and the idea of building my own. Here in the states. 😍🤤

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

The e39 is still one of my faves

@eriqrosado3337 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube can’t wait for the next update. Definitely can’t wait till you can take it to roll racing. 🙏🏽🤘🏽

@dbnpoldermans4120 2 года назад

What was that word? 'Famousing'? Hahaha. Great to see the sub mount, nice music. Another great video!

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

😂😂 that’s it haha

@piroozhr7968 2 года назад

Gotta love the cleaning the stuff under the car where most people don't care about. A car with a clean underneath means well taken care of

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

It’s very important…… in my mind haha

@1993kawasaki 2 года назад

there's nothing better than squirting some grease into a nice clean bush.. for some viewers a "SCOWRA" (in Aus) is a Scotchbrite

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

😂😂

@BiglumpADV 2 года назад

I'm thinking the solid mount might be a mistake. Given that mount is a known weakness, to then re-enforce it is a good idea. But then stuff a solid mount in and you just push all the forces into the subframe mount rather than letting the bush do its job and deflect. Hopefully it works out but I fear that'll do more harm than good.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Generally from what I have been told any movement in it leads to an issue. I don’t like solid mounts which is why I went poly in the back. But let’s see how it goes.

@alexmat106 2 года назад

The only job the bush has is to absorb the NVH, not the forces...any slack you remove from the driveline and the suspension is excellent but the car becomes less comfortable

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Yeah correct. And I don’t know how, but the man that makes these mounts says if you only install this on a stock car and leave OEM rear mounts it is a not noticeable increase in nvh 🤷‍♂️ and will also stop the front mount from braking (as I’ve got more power than stock I didn’t want to risk it) and people do say putting the poly rears in does make it worse but again, I’m going to be driving this thing so happy to loose some plushness for extra strength with the rear polys

@kurtsmith138 2 года назад

Great to see you guys still smiling after all the drama with this car haha

@alexmat106 2 года назад

I guess the right word is warping from the heat...it's fine to grind the strengthening plate a few mm

@gregcowart8229 2 года назад

I need the plastic roof trim on the e93 just the rear short pieces one has spring attached an the smaller one has adhesive an clips let me know thanks

@carrier7676 2 года назад

I ended up braking the rear diff mount on my e39 M5 also. But the rear subframe is NOT model specific. I used one from a 530 and its the exact same thing. Had it reinforced as well and installed the same solid metal diff mount bushing too.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

You can use a non M5, however, The M5 has one extra alignment adjuster.

@carrier7676 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube This is correct.

@pugs1377 2 года назад

Good stuff. I think I'll try out the subframe inserts. Not sure how my diff bushings are

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Worth doing I think. And if your diff bushes look in good condition they’ll be fine. Unless your planning on doing lots of hard launches ha

@pugs1377 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube Ive just got a 540 so the launches arnt that hard

@Nico_335i_DCT 2 года назад

Great upgrade for this legend guys. Dutch regards, Nico. ( ps. I have another broken part on the 335i. My EKPM2 didn't prime the fuel pump entering the car. So I'm gonna upgrade to the EKPM3(LCI's do have these already installed) and we're ready to go for....).

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Fingers crossed for you nico🤞

@rayroe1388 2 года назад

Not the first hole Adrian’s elongated to then have repercussions after 👊🏽❤️😇

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Bruh 😂😂

@mikealkarout9555 2 года назад

The regular E39 subframe can easily be used in a M5 and the only difference between the 2 is the M5 uses 14mm lower rear Control arm bolts and the regular E39 uses 12mm bolts . The 14 mm holes are elongated for alignment adjustment but 10 mins with 14 mm drill bit and you can use a regular E39 subframe in a M5.and only 2 holes need to be drilled out . The unicorn egg I am not a big fan of because i broke 2 subframes with a unicorn egg and one subframe was reinforced . With the unicorn egg you have the weakest point of the subframe the front mount that is solid mounted but the rear of the diff is still going to flex up and down especially with the stock bushings . I ended up purchasing a bn subframe from Bmw and getting it reinforced and used powerflex black bushing for the front and rear of the diff and the 4 subframe mounts ,zero issues with a hundred launches using Nitto drag radials

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Was aware you can fit them. But they are different. And heavens for bid if these get much more valuable I’d hate to not have “right” one. Probably should have used a normal one and put this one on the shelf in hindsight. Keen to see how it lasts with this setup. Spoken to a few owners running it which is why I went that way.

@williamdore4489 2 года назад

Mine snapped 6 months ago only now just getting it fixed, bought a second hand subframe and had it re-in forced 😂

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Where did you get your replacement one from?

@EthanCommins888 2 года назад

My concern is mixing a solid diff mount with poly ones. One has no deflection and the other two has some. Very little. But some.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

My thinking is the solid blunt mount had less chance of snapping or cranking the mount. Not just to build momentum in the front and snap if, but still have some give in the back to absorb the energy. We’ll see how it goes. I don’t like solid mounts for a daily.

@EthanCommins888 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube I mean that the solid front mount will have no deflection meaning that the slight rear deflection will transmit to the front mount which is solid at this point and thus putting pressure on the new welds. I'd go solid on the diff and soft on the subframe for less NVH. But I don't want to be the armchair mechanic lol. BTW I have solid motor and transmission mounts from turner motorsport on my daily N54 135i. The Vibration isn't bad but it is louder as the whole car basically becomes a speaker for the engine as it's now become fixed to the body.

@TOPPeet 2 года назад

The weld left to the sleeve at 8:40 on the subframe is cracked je can see light thru itt

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

I think it’s just dirt still there….

@DefaultLoginDetaiIs 2 года назад

Dave looked like he had too much fun lubing up those holes.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

That was the real reason I dropped the subframe lol

@StratoJohn 2 года назад

Good to see this peach back in front of the camera 👌🏻

@jacobbub506 2 года назад

He should have plated the back side up too!

@drewdavis239 2 года назад

Why not the powerflex black / race diff bushings?

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

I thought about it but a few people said they’re too stiff and too much nvh (especially combined with solid front mount ) so I’m hoping this is still stiff to drive with but doesn’t add too much extra vibration and harshness

@henlienr22 2 года назад

miss this car on the channel 😢

@thrty8street 2 года назад

what type of liquid did you use to clean the subframe?

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

It’s a general purchase degreaser/traffic film remover

@nissejarnet 2 года назад

I would be a little worried with mixing mounts like that, it will create bending force on the front mount when the rear mounts (tries to) flex?

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

I'm not sure tbh. I got recommended this by someone else, who should know. But i feel like you have your fair share of experience with high power cars and launching.... I keep meaning to ask, do you own DKGecu?

@nissejarnet 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube I only used delrin mounts, so i don't have any experience of my own with mixing mounts with different stiffness really, but it just feels wrong. I'm using delrin in my E82 both for the subframe and diff, same on the E30. We are three guys in DKGEcu, I'm one of them yes :)

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

@@nissejarnet Ahhhh man you are a legend, figured you had something to do with it. The DCT is on the cards for this M5 when the manual is finished. With 310,000k's on it, im not expecting it to forever and i love the DCTs. Have you linked one of your controllers to a S62 stock DME by any chance? I am assuming torque reduction and throttle blips on downshifts are going to be an issue.

@nissejarnet 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube Sorry i missed this replay. Not to a S62 stock DME, but a few E46 stock DME cars. Yes there are a few issues with stock ECU cars, but there are a few workarounds we tried that work decent :)

@francispowell1811 2 года назад

The standard e39 subframe can be used. Don't overthink it. The M mystique is largely marketing.

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Yeah you are probabaly right, they are close as makes no difference.

@williamdore4489 2 года назад

Do you guys know what the differences are between a standard E39 subframe and an M5 one?

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

I can’t remember exactly now but it’s one of the adjustments. The m5 has it and the 535/540 were non adjustable

@jacobbub506 2 года назад

GOD!!....has it been 10 months!? Wow

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Scary hay! It’s somehow nearly February… 2022 😳

@DakotaWebber 2 года назад

remember to clean your bushes and your bush holes before lubing them and squeezing them in there ladies and gentlemen

@rizzyz2472 9 месяцев назад

Any update on this car?

@ZeroTo60Tube 9 месяцев назад

no sorry

@rizzyz2472 9 месяцев назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube What happened with it?

@uisperfectemail9720 2 года назад

Is the M5 the royalty of the lot?

@ZeroTo60Tube 2 года назад

Hmmm I’d say the e60 is the royalty. But the e39 is best drivers car

@uisperfectemail9720 2 года назад

@@ZeroTo60Tube Id say they both are, E39 and E60. Sooner or later there will be an all electric M5. The “simplicity” of the E39, and exotica of the E60, each distinct engineering and design art pieces. Great to get M5 content while awaiting the N54 build to continue.