The Remarkable Rise of West Ham United: What Went Right? 

And that’s what moyes does better than almost anyone. “Greater than the sum of its parts” is a phrase that’s perfect for teams built by moyes (when allowed to do what he is best at) everton fan here btw

I think saying we don’t have the best individuals is very miss leading, Benrahma has been one of the most creative players this season soucek and rice are two of the best holding midfielders in prem areola and fab both amazing shot stoppers and Bowen has been unbelievable as a team we are amazing but also have individuals who are unreal

@@alexyoung9775 Its only missleading to some degree. Guys like Soucek and Coufal are massive bums but the reason why they thrive is partly thanks to the system that they are in and partly thanks to their own drive and self awareness. Soucek technically pretty awful and can be somewhat clumsy. What seperates him from these nobodies like Mctominay is his special awareness and the fact that he is breaking records week in week out for distance covered. Gotta keep in mind these guys came through the academies and played their whole career in czech league so obviously their footballing ability will be limited compared to players coming through in England or Germany.

@@alexyoung9775 I have stopped calling Rice a holding midfielder these days, he is a complete midfielder, bearing in mind he has carried the ball further than any other player in the league. Statistically no midfielder in the league comes close to him for the range of stats he is top 5.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Come on you irons mate ⚒

No he wasn't, plenty of Hammers fans could see how much better we were during his first stint, and wanted him to stay to continue the work. Sadly too many were blind to how badly Bilic had let the teams fitness drop and expected instant results and brazilian football. They competely ignored that, in the 6 months under Moyes, we went from the team that ran the least to the team that ran the most; a team that didn't give a shit, to a team that fought for each other. Would've probably been hounded out a second time if the corona break hadn't given him a few months to work on the fitness Pellegrini had let slide, and the attitude of the squad.

@@M1ggins probably a tiny minority but the vast majority were wanting a big name to come takeover and Pellegrini who had won the Prem was mouthwatering for us. When we were linked with Moyes after Pellegrini we thought we were going backwards and wanted another big name/up and comer like Niko Kovac.

@@mkgky15 A very very tiny minority. It's funny how now I see all these people coming out claiming they always believed in Moyes, yet I saw none of them supporting him at the start. I personally knew Moyes would do an okay job, I knew he'd have the team fitter and well drilled, but I still opposed him because I saw him as a mid table manager at best and, like many fans, was deluded into demanding Kovac just because he looked suave in a suit.

@@X50505 exactly, spot on there

All hail lord Moyesiah

They just defeated LFC

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FFS.. WH fans didnt even want Moyes in the first place., they didnt want Big Sam either and he saved them too.

@@jasonfreel8663 Exactly, he earned our respect through hard work and commitment. He didn't back down from the challenge.

100% this. I’ve been attending matches since 1979, and it’s odd - that feeling of knowing going behind isn’t game over. Even yesterday - past teams would have lost after Liverpool equalised. This ‘new’ West Ham seemed to take offence at them scoring and it pushed them onto to playing better. It truly is a remarkable time to be a West Ham fan - even if those old feeling of ‘when is this all going to unravel’ are hard to get rid of COYI ⚒

Hammer since 1991. Well said

Hammers since 2001 for me. And my good sir I agree 100 percent.

Forever blowing bubbles. Fleeting moments of beauty and joy until the bubbles bursts, and hope dies with it.

Fortunes always hiding. I've looked everywhere, I'm forever blowing bubbles, pretty bubbles in the aiiir. UNITED. UNITED. hahahaha love it.

Eloquently said. Also feel the failures at his previous three clubs is what is pushing him to take more risk and to be less certain in an over conservative approach. I think and hope juggling the new attacking approach with the defensive one will lead West Ham and Mr Moyes to a deserved cup and league title.

He's there to stay for a while imo, and what he has will be our blueprint for the future. Sullivan has cast a long shadow over the playing staff, far too involved, far too impressed with his barely adeqaute football knowledge, and thinks he's the world's no. 1 football scout. That Moyes managed to convince him to sell Haller & Anderson for an 80% loss says it all, Moyes is in charge of the football side now, without the board interferance in the playing staff that plagued the previous managers. Quite a few of us were very disappointed he was given the boot the first time, yeah, the football was dire at times, but we could see there was a different attitude, the team were running and playing for each other. Unfortunately Bilic was so weak in training that they were all seriously out of condition, players couldn't run for 70 mins, let aone 90, so resulkts were hard to come by until that new fitness regime started to show. We went from the team that ran the least in the league under Bilic, to the Moyes version that was amongst the teams than ran the most. If it hadn;t been for the Burnley game and the chairmen getting coined I think he would've stayed, Sullivan blamed moyes for it, when really it had nothing ot do with what was going on the pitch and all to do with Sullivan treating fans like mug punter wandered onto a used car lot and he had a lemon to sell. I thought history was going to repeat iutself. Pellegrini's team had gone from a side that ran to a side that stood still (I think his first season was down to Moyes, much like Bilic's was down to Allardyce's fitness & defensive organisation). Moyes came in, the crowd were restless and ready to express their anger again. And then came corona. Moyes had the chance to work on fitness, get to know his players, see who had the right attitude, and who he wantd out. And now we have the best team spirit I can remember, a team I can be proud of, even in defeat.

That's an excellent analysis of David Moyes' career.. I wanted to see him do a great job at United, and I still think he was given the bum's rush. I'm happy to see him doing so well at West Ham, and if he gets Jesse Lingard back - I know they'll kill us next season. If Sir Alex thought he was good enough --it should have been given time to succeed, as our last season with Sir Alex we were a patchwork squad that eked out a title on a season everyone else tanked. The club was in poor shape.

@@jasonmendelli6023 Blimey! Mr Mendelli, as if I would stumble across a comment from you. It's Sam McCarthy!

@@powderedground78 Sam!!! Small world! or as they say in Japan 狭い世界！narrow world 🤯 How are you?

ye when soucek had the own goal the way we reacted wud make it seem as if we lost even tho we got the draw it's beautiful to see they give it their all every match

@daveorourke77 football from a team that came from relegation scraps only 2 seasons ago, yes!

Pablo Fornals, the only good thing to come out of the Pellegrini era

To be fair, Fornals was always a classy player - just look at clips of him pre West Ham. What Moyes has done has turned him into a into a classy Premier League player.

Done the same with Benny, he works so much harder now, you dont get into the team without that work ethic

Yeah seems like some forget what impact Soucek and after that Coufal had. It has nothing to do with winning mentality its more of general grit and day to day dedication they brought with them. Winning czech league is nothing to brag home about. Its just the general east european work mentality that they possess. And they seem quite down to earth so also self reflective.

His got a vision and as long as we back him it’s only onwards and upwards

Funny 😐

Thanks to VAR

Loserpool ? Really dude I will consumed this as a joke

Im sure he will turn into one of our best players he is hardworking and technically gifted and under a manager like moyes he will thrive just needs abit of time.

Well said Eli, support u from 🇨🇦.

Nothing they’re having a honeymoon period

Smart business decisions. Smart finances. Longevity. A tight community. A lot of support. Consistency.

@@Colt-eq1vm hardly, we’ve gone from a team who’s never really been a consistent fixture in the Bundesliga, to a team going for Europe on a tight budget whilst losing our best players (Koch, waldschimdt, Schwolow) The recruitment has been exceptional (Sallai, Jeong, Leinhart, Flekken) to name a few and with the stadium move it seems a really promising project for Freiburg with the most underrated coach out there with Streich

@@lanzo3943 what are freiburg fans thinking about the stadium move? I ways loved their stadium it was so cool with the view of the forrest. Are they sad to relocate to a new stadium? Or is the stadium not too far from the old one

@@bso1469 definitely sad to leave the stadium and leave the Black Forest behind but we understand that to progress we have to depart. The new stadium is nice but not very distinctive and is further from the Black Forest so it’s not in view anymore.

Agreed

I agree, that stint at United was bad, but he is still a good manager

Ferguson set up the next British manager at the time to fail just to boost his own ego

@@bri1085 no he didn't. Moyes was out of his depth at United. Yes there were issues with the squad and the overall structure but it was Moyes' decision to get rid of all the backroom staff in favour of his own.

@@animeshkhare1769 as he should, I'm pretty sure the managers that followed did the same

@@bri1085 the managers that followed had managed at that level before though. And United is a very different club in the sense that SAF ran the club pretty much from top to bottom. A new manager stepping in would take so long learning the ropes that he wouldn't be able to juggle all the tasks efficiently and that's essentially what we saw.

Brighton have been alright for less than half a season though

Brighton is well too early to say

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From an England point of view I think Rice's improvement will provide the missing link in the England team as well.

Rice is already one of the best midfielders in modern football.

Rice always gets mentioned and rightly so but the resurgence of Cresswell has been criminally overlooked. He looks the fittest he's ever been at the club and his dead ball deliveries have been quality the past two seasons.

Agreed. The massive amount of money it would take to get Rice to Chelsea or Utd plus the fact that he has a fairly long contract still means that he looks set to stay for a little while at least.

@@samuelwicks8677 Biggest reason for me is how happy he seems atm, and how ambitious he is when talking about the team

On the depth - I truly believe for example John Terry in part became world class due to coming through with Desailly at the club... training against quality attackers like Zola and Hasslebaink..

Anyway... The point is, the Hammers need to invest in an Antonio Replacement, and it wouldn't be a bad idea for CM/CDM cover if Rice moves on at some point... Someone young. Knowing moyes he is scouting the championship now... If I were on the board however, I'd seriously be considering going in for Ivan Toney now... in Jan... as a long term option with Antonio - let them battle it out for now.. and I would perhaps look at Kamara from Marsielle in the CDM role.. maybe even Tchoumeni from Monaco if they want to be really ambitious...

Yes bcoz of his Man Utd job people don't give him credit for his Everton job

He should've won manager of the year over Pep last season

@@shreyashprajapativiiic-373 He deserves credit for West Ham. but he has a catalyst in the destruction of Sunderland's morale. That season was a complete surrender. He just brushes it off as "the worst premier league squad in history" Sunderland had 2 worse than that one for a start lol. Again it's not West Ham's concern but he left no friends on Wearside or Manchester.

Imo haller is a good player and I think we should have kept him however, he didn’t fit our system and we didn’t play to his strengths.

@@sirdaddy2714 yeah it was weird but he always looked disinterested

And somehow Moyes as turned West Ham into one of the best set piece clubs in the league.

@@mydogatemydentures5190 everton were decent, if I recall correctly, with set pieces at both ends of the pitch. He's just a very well organised guy it seems

You've hit the nail squarely on the head, it wouldn't be West Ham anymore with a team of galacticos

No he wouldn't. He was out of his depth at United and wasn't ready for such a big job.

Agree that's a great suggestion.