The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars | Gary Habermas at UCSB 

I listened to the entire video...the historical aspect of any history we believe in is enough for me to consider the gospels...just consider...there's no rational exclusion of info (by me)...i.e. Thomas Jefferson and his non-miraculous gospels...any position not considering the miraculous is dishonest...in my ridiculous opinion...love you all😎

RR: We can lead a Christian to knowledge, but we cannot make them think.

@King ZERO : Goes without saying you have a great deal to learn. Nice anti-historical deeply flawed embarrassingly nieve bias slanting you got going there. Until you've actually walked the road so to speak and traveled to all the places and examined not only what is considered the primary sources but even more deeply first hand the sources beyond those leaving no ground unturned, probably be best you not jump to quick and albeit illogical conclusions further mixing distinctly seperate time periods on top of everything else.

@@anonymousjohnson976 : That is an awesome quote -- may have to steal that one myself. Sadly, there is far too many out their calling themselves "Christians" and "Believers" who are absolutely clueless and no sign it is getting any better if not worse unfortunately.

@King ZERO : You would be wise to take a larger look at that final quote which you provided to include the full surrounding verses also, John 21:18-24, because what you stumbled into is my personal secret of sorts and why it is I might take personally offense to your misquoting Revelation which again much you don't know. Revelation 1:9 & 10:5-11:3, Amos 3:7, and in wisdom always Hebrews 13:2. And as to your babblings, don't confuse God and His servant -- in either instance.

@zempath what?

zempath still makes no sense, he said nothing of trump.

@zempath what sin are you trying to justify in your life.

@Darth Quantum I'm not sure what you mean by wishful thinking, but God did not promise you an easy life he did promise to forgive your sins and to give you everlasting life when did you lose your love for God

Darth Quantum You’re going to regret making this choice. And God does exist. And He doesn’t need anyone to prove His existence because He is going to prove His Existence all on His own. Every single prophecy in the Bible will be fulfilled. Every single one! And soon you will see a coalition of nations, led by Russia, Turkey and Iran, try and invade Israel from the north via the Golan Heights. But they will fail. All of them will be utterly defeated. And not by the strength of Israel. And not because the US helped them. But it will be solely by the strength of God. And you will see the unification of the world religions into one. After this Middle East war there will be the final formation of the global government as well as the global financial system. I hope and pray that you will let God open your heart and eyes to the truth.

SO may it be with LITERALISTS, who are denying the Spirit of Prophecy

@@theofulk5636 - Nothing wrong with a literal interpretation. Discerning the figurative from the literal is often a challenging matter. But how does that relate to Paul?

interesting argument... though it doesn't at all actually correlate to that. it doesn't give credibility in any regard.

@@theofulk5636 🤣🤣🤣crackpot

Paul is a murderer as much as someone who is an executioner

Therefore God?

Is it the God of Abraham causing the remissions? Possibly Sai Baba of Shirdi? …. Or could if be that these are NOT miracles, but natural remissions that are not fully understood.. Something scientific discovery will eventually unravel ,,, like the "miracle"of the rainbow

That’s a reasonable speculation Reasonable Speculation, but don’t mistake skepticism for knowledge. We currently have no knowledge that provides a plausible explanation for why the body would grow massive tumors, including the most life-threatening histologies such as lung cancer, and then spontaneously decide to make those tumors disappear. Our body doesn’t decide to make our noses disappear, or our fingers, for example. And you would rightly say ‘but cancerous tumors are different’ - and that’s correct -- cancers are malignant growths that are driven by signals of uncontrolled proliferation that cause tumors to grow and never stop growing. I’m on a lung cancer disease management team and we see these spontaneous remission cases, which are remarkable especially for lung cancer which is among the most aggressive histologies. As far as ‘Oh, it’s the ol’ God o’ the Gaps argument’ - I would just say, first that it ironically takes as little thought to make the dismissive Gaps critique, as it takes for a very gullible person to believe the Gaps argument. I am open to the Miracle concept because it fits the current model of the Universe which is reasonably deistic, if not theistic - ie, the Big Bang and the Fine Tuned Universe makes it plausible that there is a Creator and One Who is interested in having us here. And there is overwhelming medical evidence that Faith has health benefits. The miracle patient I met was Christian ( wearing a crucifix , I didn’t inquire about her religious beliefs otherwise). She was meeting me for a research study, I had her history, we had her pathology - non small cell lung cancer - we do a research scan on her, and find that half of her disease has disappeared. I was surprised, because I am supposed to see the patients before they start treatment - and it looked like half her disease was already treated. I called up her oncologist and learnt the patient had not started any treatment. Then the rest of cancer disappeared. Last I checked, she’s still cancer free. Anecdotal, but we see it from time to time. You’re welcome to posit alternative hypotheses. But here’s some evidence for you to consider: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=harvard+weekly+religious+cancer (from UC Berkeley) and www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27183175 (Harvard).

Mark Dunphy … You brought up God of the Gaps, so let's look at it...…... Deistic Universe, Fine tuned Universe? What would a Non-finetuned Universe look like? With what other Universes have you compared the current known Universe? .. I'm going to jump into this , even though we have not agreed on the meaning of the term Deity. Physicist do Not, at present, know what initiated the Plank Epoch. If you believe that a Deity Willed the expansion of our known Universe, you are using a God of the Gaps Argument. In other words, the God that you believe exists, can do anything, and currently Science has NO definite answer,, therefore God is the best answer. First you fabricate (or possibly believe the ancient stories) a God that is Necessary and Sufficient to create a Universe, then you use the fact that a Universe Does exists in reality, to prove that your God also Does exists in reality... This is Circular Reasoning. If a Deity is the only explanation you are willing to consider because you just can't comprehend any other possibility. ,,,, you are making a Argument from Incredulity. If a Deity is the only possible explanation because you don't understand, or don't know the other potential causes which have been proposed by Physicists,,, you are making an Argument from Ignorance. As for Religious Services being effective disease prevention,,,, I see a weakness in the studies..... . However, I WILL CONCEDE that being part of an accepting and supportive group, has health benefits. Do you think other activities can benefit health? Is it possible that meeting with close, like minded friends, on a regular basis, to talk and play Bridge, OR Polka Dance, could counteract disease development? .. how about Yoga? .. or Bowling league, with good buddies who always have your back? … Seems it's deadly to be alone, though I have no documentation.

Reasonable Speculation. Why is it necessary to compare with other Universes? Physicists know what would happen if you adjusted the physical constants of the universe by the tiniest amount - no life in the universe. Hence, the fine-tuning. One can conceive of essentially an infinite number of universes in which there is no life, and physicists have defined a rather incredibly narrow range of physical constants in which life is possible, in which we exist. If you mean maybe there's other universes in which Physics work totally differently, and two plus two is not four, then you've still not explained how our universe, in which we have our Physics, is still so unreasonably fine tuned. Have you considered that there might be an atheism of the gaps, in which one creates gaps - such as other universes of which we have zero evidence - to permit you to maintain an atheistic viewpoint, and avoid evidence that appears inconsistent with atheism. As Einstein said, the more he studied the Universe, the more he believed in God. As far as weekly religious attendance being equivalent to people getting together to play bridge, having companionship, etc, I think you should visit a Church service. The people have almost zero interaction with each other during the service. Weekly Church attendance is rather a marker of a serious religious life throughout the week , as the study discusses. Which explains why the Harvard group also found religious upbringing (again a predominantly Christian study population) was associated with better outcomes for children. So, I can look at the physical order of the Universe - at the best current evidence just as it is, and say it supports my belief that it is not random, but rather created by God for us. The atheist has to explain the creation and fine-tuning of the universe, by not looking at the universe as it is - but by speculating about how reality might be- that maybe there are other universes or other dimensions -- of which we have no have evidence -- that can explain everything. I think it was the last July issue of Nature that noted that the LHC and others had come up with zero evidence of supersymmetry, etc. You know where there is also a gap in the evidence? When you have a false hypothesis. Interesting that you mention Planck, a devout theist. Then there's deist/former-theist Hoyle, who coined the term Big Bang, when he was mocking LeMaitre, the priest who discovered the Big Bang. I'm a former agnostic. I began to doubt my doubts the more I learned the atheist arguments really have no merit, and became familiar with the positive benefits of Christian religious experience.

No, that's not cherry picking. It would be a wobbly argument, except we don't only know of Paul's being involved in the killing of Christians from Paul. It's also written of in Acts. You are also assuming that the null hypothesis is that Paul should be trusted, but given the propensity of human beings for dishonesty, for any extraordinary claims made by anybody, the null hypothesis should be that they are false. The burden of proof is not on the skeptic when it comes to extraordinary. That's a sound epistemic rule of thumb.

@razumfrackle You're not applying the rule o thumb known as the criteria of embarrassment. That is it makes sense to think Paul was telling the truth with regard to his involvement in the persecution of Christians, because it is not something one would have some interest in claiming if it were false. It can further be reasonably inferred that it is not something he could have kept a secret. These points do not apply to his other claims and the extraordinary nature of those claims make skepticism warranted. Maybe a better point: consider this conundrum: If Paul was lying about the murder, then he's a liar. If he was not lying then he's a murderer. Either way his character is seriously called into question. So, at the very least bringing up the point he claimed to have taken part in the murder of Christians is a no-lose rhetorical move.

@razumfrackle Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I'd agree that Paul may have taken part in the killing of Christians w/o feeling he was doing anything wrong as he had the sanction of the high priest. Obviously later he had a change of heart. I've never personally made the argument that it proves Paul's testimony can't be trusted. I was just pointing out that the argument i not incoherent. I also don't doubt that the apostles believed Jesus was risen and that Paul might have gotten the particular formulation in Corinthians 15 from some one or another of the apostles. He also could have consciously or subconsciously invented it for all we really know. But even if it is authentically from the original apostles, that in itself is not enough to make a claim of a supernatural event credible and established as an historical fact. If it were I should have to believe that the Angel Moroni gave gold tablets containing the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. Certainly the fact that the gospel accounts of the empty tomb story contradict Paul's formulation and each other is counter indicative of the truth of much of it. How on earth could eyewitnesses or even close associates of eyewitnesses not know whether they met Jesus in Galilee as Matthew claims or in Jerusalem as Luke and John claim? How could they no know whether the women told no one about the empty tomb, which is the very last claim made in the earliest mss of Mark, or whether they had seen angels and Jesus himself who and they told the apostles to go to Galilee to meet him (Matthew) or two disciples (not Peter) met Jesus first and then the he met the rest in Jerusalem (Luke). Another thing that makes no sense is that Mary would have returned from the tomb and told the men she knew not where they had taken Jesus's remains (John) if as in the Matthew and Luke she had met angels who and/or Jesus himself (Mattew/Luke) who had told them (Matt) or not (Luke) that he was gone to Galilee an he should meet them there. It's totally irreconcilable schmozzle more like what one would expect from different tellings of a legend than the testimony of eyewitnesses.

@Folk Aart Why r u bothering to comment to a comment if it's such BS. I'd think you've got alot more important things to do, see, & comment on. And no one is watching Star Wars here, wrong channel, dude.

Paul had three different versions of the Road to Damascus story, two Roman witnesses who were pagan arresting officers for the Jewish Law, & he didn't meet the requirements for apostleship as stated right at the beginning of the book of Acts. He also refused to leave a congregation/house that he had entered when the householders rejected his message. He claimed Jesus/Yeshua came to him as an angel of lights/no clouds which Paul himself later connects to the deception of Satan. Paul appointed apostles under him & never took off his earthly hats. Paul made his own kingdoms & never forsook the world. I follow the Son, not Paul/Saul. Just like Satan, he can appear to anyone & everyone as will draw them to his teachings, which vacillate depending upon the audience. That's fork-tongued. Satan often tells enough of the truth to steer people away from the truth. What a great deception if mainstream Christendom is using Pauline writings & misunderstood wisdom & twisted manipulations of Pauline writings by theologians in order to send many off into destruction. Oops! That's exactly what Peter foretold would happen. John has been warned, If anyone heals in my name, Don't prohibit him. He will be judged. If not prohibited, such are not quick to say bad things against me. Paul was tolerated. Jesus had warned of Paul's arrival on the scene, but not as most think. Paul is the sower of tares in the night. Peter had had a vision before the servants of the Romans needing him to come to bear witness, unclean animals vision. Yet, no vision for Paul? The Apostles had to approached about Paul? Someone so important, yet no announcement of his apostleship & no documentation & Paul spent the rest of his life whining that he wasn't being acknowledged as an apostle. Why? Because he wasn't one. Let you answer be yea or nay, anything more is of the Evil One. Paul was an antichrist as far as I can read in the scriptures. I won't judge him, however, since I can not be sure that he wasn't a work in progress. Sure, Peter called him a brother with wisdom, instead of an approved Apostle with eyewitness testimony. Yet, Peter didn't write Paul off either. Even Jesus/Yeshua didn't call Judas anything but Friend even after he brought the arresting soldiers that Yeshua already knew would be on the way & for what purpose. Not my place to judge the futures of those two individuals. But I will say that the fruits of Paul aren't looking so good. Judas at least attempted to repent & return the coins, Paul, to the contrary, boasted about his involvement in the stoning to death of Stephen decades after the fact. Follow the Son. And the Son said Follow no man other than me. Take with a grain of salt anything Paul says & compare that with what the Son said.

the legend right here

Wow! Thanks for outlining, You are so kind😌

This was very helpful, thank you!

But which Father?

@@chrissonofpear1384 God the Creator, the Father of Jesus. The Father God who sent Jesus to die for the sins of the World. Jesus is the only way to God and the forgiveness of sin.

This is an essence point. The spirits speaks

@@MrStucrew Prove it! If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right? "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). Go ahead! Let’s see you post a video showing you drinking deadly poison without harm. It’s not like the anonymous, biased cult members who wrote Mark were proven liars, forgers and frauds, right?

I DENY RABBI YESHUA! He was a madman nothing more!

Redrum I doubt it, if he believes in Christ he wont

Because they don't listen to them thoroughly. More times then not they listen for two seconds hear something they don't like. They've never been good at listening let alone studying the context. It used to be called being closed minded now it makes you brilliant and very smart.

What I don't understand is why are atheist always running to listen to Christian apologists KNOWING that CHRIST is the topic of discussion when atheist make it very clear they don't believe in CHRIST? Things or people I don't like I tend to stay away from,As a believer in CHRIST I don't run to atheist RU-vid channels to mock atheist,But boy oh boy it seems that atheist won't understand that logic,If u don't believe in CHRIST then why are you listening? Ask yourself this question atheist, Continue to live your life without GOD as u have chosen,But let us believers enjoy CHRIST...Lol watch an atheist mock me...Go ahead, I'll wait.

@@cedmiller3883 It is all about asking questions and take it from me christians are not forthright in the discussion department. If you cannot or unwilling to answer questions it is not our faults. Consider what BS the Bible is........... Genesis 2;17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. And they did not die on that day. I am not mocking you at least not yet.

What u guys are not understanding is most atheist here are not really looking for answers of TRUTH...They mock & my point is why come to listen about CHRIST if u don't care for him? That's my point.. I would never respond to u guys on an atheist RU-vid channel because I don't have a desire or faith to be an atheist,But here u guys are responding to me....CHRIST is being spoken of correct? U guys don't want CHRIST correct? Lol guys just don't seem to get it...U guys talk about what Christian's are doing,Then stay away from Christians if it bothers u so much.

I pray that iron man has mercy on ur soul

That was a stupid comment.

@@Itsatz0 ...... But so true.......

@@charlescoryn9614 Yeah, amazes me that people rationalize believing in a blood sacrifice for atonement of sin and everlasting life in a reincarnated body. This Habermas guy is a liar who pretends to be a jolly good fellow. And Christians are so broken emotionally that they want their neurotic, self loathing behavior to be verified by scumbags like Habermas. It is truly pitiful.

That’s because this video has a mainly christian audience. Why would I have to be “educated well enough” to avoid frying in hell for eternity? Why does god require us to become scholars to understand his truth? That’s incredibly arrogant

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@@erincurrie1560 S (that means ‘smile’)

Miguel Cisneros skeptics are in denial, can’t you smell the fear?

@Miguel Cisneros - The value of the skeptical scholar is not that he has something true to teach us; it is that they strengthen an apologetic in what they admit to be true historically.

Whats going on, i just commented a couple mins ago, it got erased..disappeared. who did that? Why is my post shoved to the bottom when i just made it

Is there a moderator here

@Miguel Cisneros hello i need to find the moderator , how can i

Moral decline ? You must not like civil rights very much

@@dannysnee4945 To

Moral decline just fits your fake narrative. The world is safer now than it has ever been. Skepticism is growing because it evaluates the evidence properly - unlike God claiming theists.

By the way moral decline and the world being a safer place are not the same thing. They may overlap at times, but not necessarily in other areas.

What the devil is "moral decline"? " Moral" meaning exactly what? You have not the faintest idea? No surprises there

Still here with you! Interesting how the internet has its own sort of timelessness......

*Jennifer signsoflife* I don't know if you've seen the movie based on Lee Strobel's conversion from atheism to Christ, but in it, Dr. Habermas is depicted as one of the earliest scholars Strobel went to in his efforts to disprove Christianity. LOL! I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Strobel started grilling him about the Resurrection.

*Jennifer signsoflife* It's called, "The Case for Christ", and let me know if you tear up when Strobel's rebellion toward God is quashed. Prior to that he was a real lunkhead when his wife became Christian. I know he speaks on the phone with someone he calls "Dr. Craig", and I assumed it was William Lane Craig, but I don't know if his full name was ever used. I suppose I could look on IMDB and see if the actor was playing WL Craig. I really liked the movie, but I like conversion accounts, and Strobel has become such a warrior for Christ, we all knew how the story ended before we watched his journey. Enjoy it, Jennifer!

He lost me at 12:45 when he said not all things Paul wrote are true, I believe that what Paul wrote was from God through the Holy Spirit.

*Roy Schlamp* Please listen closely, Roy. You might be misunderstanding what Habermas is saying. It sounds like he's claiming that just because Ehrman accepts a limited number of Paul's writings, that doesn't prove the books he accepts as authentic are true and/or inspired. It sounds like a gentle rebuke of any Christian who tries to make such claims, based on Ehrman's scholarship. Fortunately, most of us can separate the goats from the sheep, and it's easy enough to see how sloppy Bart is in his claims, knowing that Muslims (who love him), and atheists (who love him) are too lazy to fully investigate (and they have no guidance from the Holy Spirit). Ehrman is proof of nothing if we use Christian standards, and that's my understanding of what Habermas is claiming. Paul's 2nd letter to Timothy (3:16) claims "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,"

Tell me more about how it’s okay to murder children and infants as long as some guy claims that a god said so: "This is what the Lord Almighty says...Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). So you’d murder your neighbor’s entire family, including his infant, if some man claimed that Jesus appeared to him and said you should? Some guy who hears voices telling him to murder babies MUST be a credible source, right? It’s not like he might be a LIAR , or mentally ill, correct?

PLEASE dont come to my door ,

You are not armed with knowledge but more illusions for your God fallacy. Claiming this guy gives you more ''knowledge'' is nonsense talk. Your statement highlights so much about your thought processes - which are wide of logic or reason. Sadly, indoctrination has lead you to thinking something that you can't prove or demonstrate as the truth. Very sad but true.

You are? That's great. Tell me what does Isaiah 53 say?

You are as much deluded as the idiot and brainwashed imbecile above! Go buy a book by Richard Dawkins, or Christopher Hitchins. What i'm saying is GET EDUCATED!! And stop believing in the supernatural and disregard blind faith!

@Kuffar Legion why not you ask? because they are not the truth. the truth should be taught. not lies that leave children believing they were and accident and nothing really matters. seek and you will find, ask and it it shall be given my friend.

Kuffar Legion .. Good job.. Keep crushing the magical thinkers with reality. It's like the Prayer in School argument, such an "obviously" good idea,,,,,,, until your kid is required bring a prayer mat to school, so he can face Mecca 5 times a day. Religion makes people myopic.

I agree G Harris but the secular country will never do it..The Bible has so many prophesies in it that if it were not the word of God , it could easily be disproven...Amazing how it hasn't considering the KJV is over 400 years old...Many are blinded or their hearts are hardened....

" KJV is 400 years old"... The Avesta is 1100 years old.. It's amazing how so many religious people are blinded, or their heads are hardened.

@@reasonablespeculation3893 The KJV contains books written more than 3000 years ago but were translated over 400 years ago...Does the Avesta have an explanation for the Jews...

Ken Qualls this is interesting, very interesting

Ken Qualls The folded face cloth got me!

@Dd S Actually we do. Virtually every New Testament scholar (even the ones that are atheist) believe Jesus was a real person, he died on a cross, he was buried in a well known place, and the tomb was later found to be empty. They agree on these things in part because there were other texts found that are not a part of the Bible, but they corroberate what the Bible says. Not all NT scholars are believers, but they all agree that people at least thought they saw the risen Jesus. People much smarter than you or I have established these things as fact. You can try to explain them away, you can say these people had a mass hallucination, or they only thought they saw Jesus, or the body was stolen, I really don't care. But the evidence suggests Jesus was real, was crucified, was buried, and the body went missing. How you interpret that evidence is up to you.

@Dd S as a side note, we have more textual evidence for the existence of Jesus than any other historical figure. If you're an atheist, it shouldn't bother you that He existed because believing He's the Messiah is different than acknowleging His existance as a man. I happen to believe He is Lord, but that's me, not you. You are entitled to believe what you want.

And several report seeing him 40 days later. And kicking it. Then his ascension. He will come back. Apologetics are cool, but Holy Spirit convicts His kids. If you’re not convicted of your sin, you’re just probably not His kid. So move on and do something with yourself before you die! It will OVER FOR YOU either way! Right? So go find meaning that is meaningless. Bye

So you would say it is less reasonable to doubt the resurrection than to believe it? As long as there are conceivable naturalistic explanations (and there are), I don't believe we are justified in rationally preferring a supernatural one. Sure, if God can be shown to probably exist based on other arguments, then the probability of the resurrection goes up, but the same is true about the contrary, if God can be shown to probably not exist (based on other scientific and philosophical arguments) then the probability of the resurrection goes down.

@La Jiggy Jar Jar Do Do you have anything constructive to add? Are we rationally justified in believing in UFOs or the healing power of crystals? We have more or less the same kind of evidence for these claims as for the resurrection, personal testimony. Not strong enough to base metaphysical worldviews on.

@La Jiggy Jar Jar Do Nowhere. But where did I say that you hold supernatural beliefs? I expressed an opinion in my original comment and you seemed to disagree, so I tried to find out the nature of the disagreement.

@@stoicsynapse13 Jesus was raised from the dead! Hundred of prophecies have been fulfilled and not a single one has been disproven, I think that does it. For this to have happened is beyond any possibility mathematically!

@@stoicsynapse13 No, you're full of Bull S....

Yea I saw him on John ankerberg and searched him up!

Whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life repent for the kingdom of God is at hand! Jesus is returning to judge the living and the dead.’snznz

@@john23evangelist63 Your pathetic RU-vid posts disprove your imaginary god. If an all-powerful God existed who wanted humans to know it, he wouldn’t need to rely on credulous douchebags to defend him on RU-vid! LOL! He could simply demonstrate his existence. Your inability to produce a scrap of credible evidence debunks your stupid cult. "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22). If that was true, you could just post a video demonstrating this. Pray for Jesus to appear to you RIGHT NOW and declare that he is real! What will happen---ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Just as we’d expect if the bible was a bunch of debunked ancient fiction. “Whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you" (John 16:23), "whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours" (Mark 11:24). Let’s see you regrow the missing limb of an amputee with your magic Jeebus prayer superpowers! "And these signs will accompany those who believe...they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well" (Mark 16:17-18). But you can’t, because Jesus is just a CHARACTER IN A FICTION BOOK, which is why all you can do is make pathetic comments on RU-vid sites to try and defend your dying cult of debunked ancient nonsense.

Wonderful, he has nothing that supports a Resurrection.

@@richardpaulhall Listen to the video... Then you will see that he lists the evidence for the resurrection... Start there.

One can tell from this cultist's remark that he has no idea what an atheist actually is. Since it simply denies the proofs offered by christian apologists it is not based on anything but the ignorance of the christian arguments. Do your fucking homework, cult boy. you are a sad one, mister grinch.

It must be true, he added a full stop

That's actually what being informed looks like, buttclown.

Antonio Banderas Duh! They are calling pagans Christians for crying put loud! They blaspheme any chance they get!

I don’t hate atheists but I really dislike their ignorance. Let’s show them respect and be the bigger men. God bless you Antonio!

@HuckFinn go cry somewhere else

Sucks that he cherry picks his evidence.

If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right? "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). Go ahead! Let’s see you post a video showing you drinking deadly poison without harm. It’s not like the anonymous, biased cult members who wrote Mark were proven liars, forgers and frauds, right?

@@kingofbubbles6220 LOL You are hilarious....

@@mythbuster1483 Get a dictionary... Look the word "context" up... Then keep the Bible in CONTEXT. The sign gifts are no longer in use or in need.... I Cor. 13

@Kuffar LegionFaith in the true God is not delusion. The Bible proves it. I don't believe "first there was nothing and then it exploded" that is a scientific impossibility. What evolutionists are teaching our kids since the last century, deluding them to think like monkeys and believe they share a common ancestor with a cauliflower. Haeckel's faked embryos Darwin's absurd Tree of life Miller's failed experiment are still taught in schools, this brainwashing of the masses with Tax Payers' money. You ought to be concerned about that more than someone posting on RU-vid that they believe in Jesus Christ.

@Kuffar Legion If only you could hear yourself....

@Kuffar Legion So NO THING is a SOME THING? Okay David Tong wasn't ambitious enough to come straight out and say it but he did say that there's an 'up quawrk' and a 'down 'qwark' whatever that means and he went further to say that there are smaller particles they've discovered smaller than an electron, they are 'fluid-like' substances which occupy this space of NOTHING? Kraus and Dawkins dont go that far though they conceded a creation but have not attributed that to God. Peace.

@Kuffar Legion to your King Lear analogy. King Lear is a known and accepted work of fiction. An English classic. It does not and will not make a claim to truth because its just that- fiction. You seem to have a hard time sorting out what's real or not. The New Testament and Jesus Christ are real and have been established to be reliable and worth placing our faith and confidence in. "Let God be true and every man a liar."

@Kuffar Legion "Why do you act religionist?" Do you mean why am I Christian? Sure Because I know I am a sinner in need of a Saviour. He forgave my sins that were many. No other religion in the world offers that- they require people to do A B and C to gain the approval of their god and religion. With Christ 'It is by grace that ye are saved.' We are not saved by our good works. 'What does faith do for you that is different from hopeful confidence in self and others?' Faith in Jesus gives me hope for the future. The questions of what is the meaning of life, who am I?, why am i here? where am I going? are settled ultimately through Jesus Christ. I was involved in a car accident and nearly died. I believe God spared my life for a reason: to testify of him. If you've ever heard of people having near death experiences, pay close attention, they almost always talk about walking into a white light. In my case I was spinning into a black hole. Thankfully I had been asleep in the car, so wasn't tense with fear from the oncoming crash. I woke up to a chilly morning as firemen were cutting through the car to get me out of the wreckage. You may not think it now, but consider yourself privileged to have been warned. There is a life after this one. What you decide about Jesus Christ determines your eternity. Peace.

Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES* , even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle - Peter, Paul or James - knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

Yes, you have to be good to perpetuate the myth !

I would say that you need much, much more blind faith to be an atheist than a theist. I'll confess I do not have enough blind faith to be one, mine is based on a faith that has, thank the Lord, much more weighty evidence behind it than the anti-god fanatical minds that cling to theories crumbling under their very feet can handle. I pray they will see the light, and that they will find God. One day. Somehow. Though, in some cases, it'll never happen.

Would one of your "undeniable" facts be the empire-wide census conducted by the Romans at the time of Jesus' birth? It never happened. How about the worldwide darkness at the time of Jesus' death? Never happened. You know what you can prove? Evolution. And "maths" DO help prove it.

"Atheism" is, by definition, a lack of belief, not a belief system. Love is an abstract concept. Nothing can "prove" it. The Theory of Evolution describes the evolution of species, not the genesis of life. But don't take my word for it, ask Francis Collins. Given that you misunderstand these simple, definitional facts, I hesitate to ask, but I'm genuinely curious: "What facts presented in this lecture do you find 'undeniable,' and what conclusions do these facts produce?"

@@Stevenson1776 Nope. Just a stickler for definitions in an academic context. Are there "facts presented in this lecture that you find undeniable?"

In all fairness scientist have seen evolution, not just through fossils but every year on the Galápagos Islands, there is a species of birds that are constantly changing as they adapt to their surroundings

Maaaaaaybe your religion's arguments and evidence are insufficient?

Nathaniel Robinson Pay attention to the video.

@@ramoncales1210 I did, thanks. Poor arguments. Bit of bait and switch.

@@progidy7 I'm interested in your view on this. Can you explain the bait and switch, or where you think his research was wrong?

​@@root1657 Absolutely! So, H makes the point that we have closer-to-the-time accounts of Jesus' life/resurrection than we do for other historical figures. He then says that the skeptic will say "but those other accounts didn't record miracles". Then H comes back with "actually yes they *do* record miracles", and that if you dismiss the gospels because they include miracles, then you have to dismiss the sources for Alexander the Great on the same grounds. Do you see the bait and switch? What historians *actually* do is they throw out the Alexander miracle claims, sift through the rest to try to pin down the facts, and debate the merits of those. They don't take it all or nothing. But that's what H is trying to get you to do with the Gospels. If he was being intellectually honest, he would admit that we should do the same with Jesus: dismiss the miracles and try to pin down which of the rest of the claims were likely true.

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@The Truth of the Matter That's the other guy who went insane

@The Truth of the Matter How convenient.... It is getting out of the comfort zone that matters. I judge people by there character and for sure not by there religious beliefs.

The sin-sacrifice-resurrection story implies a superstitious God who values blood sacrifice, which was a common practice (e.g. sacrificing a goat for a new home) 2000 yrs ago. Don’t you see how the early superstitious folks who valued blood sacrifice created the God of The Bible in their own image?

@The Truth of the Matter Yesuah is Hebrew for Jesus

@River Scott jesus is in heaven

@@KuldeepSingh-ry9tn Prove it! Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES* , even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle - Peter, Paul or James - knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

The bible has been debunked as fiction by science, archaeology and biblical scholarship, but you can prove that it’s false yourself with a simple experiment. First, the bible claims that Jesus appeared to people after his supposed death (1 Cor. 15:3-8), including the claim that he appeared to 500 people at once, and appeared to Paul. So Jesus supposedly proved his resurrection by appearing to people, showing that it was necessary to appear to people in order to provide EVIDENCE that he was really resurrected. Further, the gospel stories claim: "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22). “Whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you" (John 16:23), "whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours" (Mark 11:24). So go ahead and set up your video camera and pray for Jesus to appear to you right now! If my atheism is correct, nothing will happen. But feel free to prove it to yourself that Jesus is imaginary. 1) If Jesus is real, and is a god, he COULD appear to you, or to anyone. 2) He supposedly appeared to others in ancient stories that we have no evidence for. 3) Jesus supposedly promised to appear in response to prayers. 4) FACT: Regardless how much you pray or ask...he won't appear. The most likely explanation for the above? Jesus won’t appear because he CAN’T. Fictional literary characters can't hear prayers or do anything in real life. Praying to Jesus is no different than praying to Spider-Man or Gandalf. Feel free to list your excuses for why Jesus doesn't appear. I'll play 'logical fallacy bingo' with your responses. Also, why am I accurately able to predict the outcome in advance? “The predictive power of a scientific theory refers to its ability to generate testable predictions.” By the way, liars like to say, “Do not put my lies to the test,” but those telling the truth don’t mind if you validate their claims. Right?

Why do you suppose that the method taught be the man later called jesus christ has anything what soever to do with the god fantasy; the man never in his life used the word god, nor has any attachment to that fantasy anything to do with his method

​@@vhawk1951klJesus never taught method's! He taught that He Himself was the Way, The Truth and the Life! If he taught any 'method' it was this, 'to believe' in him! To have childlike faith, acceptance and belief in Him.

wrong, if there was no resurrection from the dead in the third day, there would be no Christianity and all of this is in vain...

You said, "no religion could invent that stuff". The entire ending of Mark is a proven forgery, including supposed words of Jesus promising magic poison resistance to believers: "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). Go ahead! You believe what some anonymous ancient scribes claim that Jesus said, right? What happens when fools believe liars? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" - 2 Drink Strychnine At Service and Die In Display of Faith, New York Times. It's not like the Bible is full of lies, right? Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES, even if they refuse to use the term." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

@@mythbuster1483 lol

@@LuisGonzalez-rm5vx 😉

@Gerard Jones Christian liars LOVE to claim they are 'former atheists'. But you can PROVE that the bible is fiction and that Jesus is imaginary with a simple scientific experiment. The anonymous scribes who wrote the fictional gospel tales claim that Jesus said: "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22). “Whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you" (John 16:23), "whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours" (Mark 11:24). So go ahead and set up your video camera and pray for Jesus to appear to you right now! If my reality-based worldview is correct, nothing will happen, which I can predict in advance. But feel free to prove it to yourself that Jesus is imaginary. To counter any excuses, the bible claims that Jesus appeared to people after his supposed death (1 Cor. 15:3-8), including the claim that he appeared to 500 people at once, and appeared to Paul. So the authors of the gospel tales knew that it was necessary to PROVE claims by having Jesus appear to people after his death in order to provide EVIDENCE that he was really resurrected. 1) If Jesus was real, and a god, he COULD appear to you, or to anyone. 2) He supposedly appeared to others in ancient stories that we have no evidence for. 3) Jesus supposedly promised to appear in response to prayers. 4) FACT: Regardless how much you pray or ask...he won't appear. The most likely explanation for the above? Fictional literary characters can't hear prayers or do anything in real life. Jesus won’t appear because he CAN’T, and because the authors of the gospel tales were liars. Praying to Jesus is no different than praying to Spider-Man or Gandalf, or any other fictional character in a book. Feel free to list your excuses for why Jesus doesn't appear. I'll play 'logical fallacy bingo' with your responses. Also, why am I accurately able to predict the outcome in advance? “The predictive power of a scientific theory refers to its ability to generate testable predictions.” By the way, liars like to say, “Do not put my lies to the test,” but those telling the truth don’t mind if you validate their claims. Right?

Don’t murder any babies today just because some member of a death cult claims that God said so. "This is what the Lord Almighty says...put to death men and women, children and infants." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). So you’d murder your neighbor’s entire family, including his infant, if some man claimed that Jesus appeared to him and said you should? If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right?

@River Scott He forgot to mention that we have actual evidence that Alexander The Great existed other than accounts. (Also the earliest account of Alexander was about 300 years after his death to Jesus' 1000 years.)

What Christians propose isn't even 'evidence' at all, they are only 'claims', and are the least credible kind of claim: from anonymous, biased scribes who weren't eyewitnesses, found in manuscripts dated hundreds of years after the supposed events that are filled with proven fiction, forgery and fraud, written by other anonymous, biased cult members. "Some guy said so" would not be evidence that what he said was true, even if he was a known, credible person. And certainly, "some anonymously-written text says so" does not make the claim true, as Christians would agree about the Quran, the Book of Mormon, the Bhagavad Gita, and every other religious text other than theirs. And yet this is all Christians have to support their absurd death cult. All their faith claims go back to the least credible kind of sources. The more a person investigates the actual facts, the more it all falls apart. For instance, this absurd video claiming "evidence" for the resurrection story, which is simply "some anonymous member of my cult said so". Calling unsupported claims "facts" is a common technique of liars and frauds. None of these are facts, or would be considered "evidence" in a court, where they have strict standards regarding what qualifies as evidence. For instance, no one could be convicted of a crime if the only "evidence" was an anonymously-written note claiming they did a crime, let alone if that note contained absurd supernatural claims, such as that an angel told the anonymous author this information, etc. Right?

Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES* , even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle - Peter, Paul or James - knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

dunexxi ?

?-train incoming

I've already shared it... what about you

Yes I agree

He spreads quite a bit of misinformation about Alexander the Great and cherry picks his evidence. Very skillful.

This helps his credibility. I think.

@@slickvicfrmdaville1605 You have nothing written by ‘Paul’, only edited texts dated hundreds of years after the supposed events, filled with proven forgeries by the anonymous, biased cult members who wrote them. Dr. William O. Walker, Jr., Professor Emeritus of Religion, Trinity University: “the surviving text of the Pauline letters is the text promoted by the historical winners in the theological and ecclesiastical struggles of the second and third centuries... In short, it appears likely that the emerging Catholic leadership in the churches 'standardized' the text of the Pauline corpus in the light of 'orthodox' view and practices, suppressing and even destroying all deviant texts and manuscripts. Thus it is that we have no manuscripts dating from earlier than the third century; thus it is that all of the extant manuscripts are remarkably similar in most of their significant features; and thus it is that the manuscript evidence can tell us nothing about the state of the Pauline literature prior to the third century.” The Burden of Proof in Identifying Interpolations in the Pauline Letters, NTS 33 (1987), 610-618:615.

@@slickvicfrmdaville1605 Dr. James Tabor, Professor in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "Paul’s name was used to lend authority to the ideas of later authors who intend for readers to believe they come from Paul. In modern parlance we call such writings forgeries, but a more polite academic term is pseudonymous, meaning ‘falsely named.’" The Quest for the Historical Paul, Biblical Archaeology

Speaking of "eye opening", how about when Jesus healed the blind with *MAGIC MUCUS* and *couldn't even do it right the first time!* "When he had spit on the man’s eyes and put his hands on him, Jesus asked, Do you see anything? He looked up and said, I see people; they look like trees walking around. Once more Jesus put his hands on the man’s eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly" (Mark 8:23-25). So Jesus is God, but has to "spit on the man's eyes" and use his magic mucus power to heal him?!! Disgusting! And then your demigod CAN'T EVEN GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME? He has to try a SECOND TIME to heal him! Really? And he's all-knowing, but has to ASK THE GUY whether he can see? And you expect an educated person in the 21st Century to believe a ridiculous story like this with ZERO evidence? Why would YOU believe it? Just because it says so in the book with the talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies...so you KNOW it must be reliable? REALLY?

@@mythbuster1483 No need to yell

@@mustang8206 You can't yell in text comments, stupid.

@@mythbuster1483 ALL CAPS = yelling, everyone knows this convention.

@@SeanusAurelius So what? Don't read my comments if you don't like them. I'll capitalize whatever I want to.

+benatpc Exactly, so the skeptical scholars agree with the facts, Dr. Gary Habermas made my faith stronger!

+ChristisRisen Wow. You are so confused.

benatpc Are you a scholar? If not then why should I trust your judgment? It is you who is confused, because you didn't even address what I said, which is what I would expect from a person who doesn't understand what he is saying.

+ChristisRisen Why on earth would you 'trust' my judgement, even if I were a scholar? Not thinking for yourself is what got you in to this mess.

benatpc The comment that I made first off was about skeptical scholars supporting certain facts about the history of Christianity. Scholars know more then you on this area, and yet you think you know more then the Scholars, although unless you have better arguments then them I would like to see it. So I say again, it is you who is confused, you have no idea what you are saying.

Brayan Delgado amen brother

@River Scott let me get this straight... you’re expecting an explanation of something impossible being... possible? I’m not quite sure what your point is.

Where are you now on your journey?

Same here ADR3-N

@@bobpolo2964 became a messianic jew, basically christian some years ago. Still trying to fight the good fight in the public sphere, as being christian with my particular skin color is shall I just say inconvenient, but not so inconvenient as being brow beat into watching the political left hammer everyone into endorsing absolute lies

@@ItsJustAdrean You're not ethnically Jewish?

@@ItsJustAdrean Anytime you want to prove your book of debunked ancient fairy tales with the talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, which promises magic poison resistance to believers---go ahead! "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). So post your video demonstrating the magic poison-resistance superpowers that Lying Jesus promised! What happens when fools believe liars? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" - 2 Drink Strychnine At Service and Die In Display of Faith, New York Times. It's not like the Bible is full of lies, right? Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *the Bible is full of lies* , even if they refuse to use the term." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

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@@s.wilbertschremp6832 Y

Anytime you want to prove your book of debunked ancient fairy tales with the talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, which promises magic poison resistance to believers---go ahead! "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). So post your video demonstrating the magic poison-resistance superpowers that Lying Jesus promised! What happens when fools believe liars? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" - 2 Drink Strychnine At Service and Die In Display of Faith, New York Times. It's not like the Bible is full of lies, right? Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *the Bible is full of lies* , even if they refuse to use the term." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

@@mythbuster1483You are so terrifyingly ignorant. You have blinded yourself with your prejudice.

@@mythbuster1483 Oh, you mean claims like: Our universe came from nothing, or non-life can bring forth life? Sure, show me the evidence.

@@intedominesperavi6036 Oh, you mean claims like: your imaginary *INVISIBLE MAGIC SKY GENIE* came from nothing, and created the universe from nothing, or that Jesus mother was impregnated by a god, and Jesus was a virgin-born demigod with superpowers whose rotting corpse magically returned to life, or for the talking snake, talking donkey and 900-year-old men? LOL! Where's your evidence? Hey stupid, regarding the origin off the universe, learn some science! Dr Alan Guth, Professor of Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology: “the universe is actually eternal. It existed at all times, so there is no beginning to explain.”www.scientificamerican.com/custom-media/biggest-questions-in-science/the-founder-of-cosmic-inflation-theory-on-cosmologys-next-big-ideas/

@@intedominesperavi6036 *FACT* - the New Testament contains proven lies by the anonymous, biased fanatics who wrote it. "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). Go ahead! Let’s see you post a video showing you drinking deadly poison without harm. What happens when fools believe liars? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" www.nytimes.com/1973/04/10/archives/2-drink-strychnine-at-service-and-die-in-display-of-faith.html It's not like the Bible is full of lies, right? Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *the Bible is full of lies* , even if they refuse to use the term." www.huffpost.com/entry/the-bible-telling-lies-to_b_840301

@@mythbuster1483 You are adorable. Jesus rose from the dead.

@@intedominesperavi6036 You relitards would be adorable with your belief in debunked ancient fairy tales...if those myths didn't encourage genocide, slavery, homophobia, misogyny, and murdering babies. "This is what the Lord Almighty says...Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). Don’t murder any babies today just because some member of a death cult claims that God said so.

not many people take action in name of a unicorn

@@ulysses7653 so do i bud

Ulysses Arenas That’s why not a single Atheist in human history hated your god or any other gods... 😂 That’s just the usual strawman version of an Atheist. Strawmanning is so much easier than providing actual evidence that would convince educated people. At best you would find Atheists who compare the god of the Bible to other fictional characters like Voldemort, the villain from Harry Potter. I bet that most people would agree that Voldemort is a very evil man... but that doesn’t mean that they believe he is real. 😂

Ulysses Arenas Oh, then I misunderstood your comment. There are just too many crazy comments in this religious echo chamber. 😂

"Unicorn" merely means "one horn." I believe in unicorns.

In Rev. 22:7, Jesus supposedly says, "Look, I am coming soon!" 2000 years later and...nothing, which is just what we'd expect from a fiction book!

@@mythbuster1483you sound disappointed. 😢 im not!!! Had he come 100 years ago where would you be?

Agreed. There is plenty of scorn and ridicule, but no good counter-arguments.

During the time that Jesus was supposed to have lived, there were many profits peddling early Christianity. The name occasionally referred to as Yeshua by people of Jewish background, was a common name used at the time. The name Jesus is also a transliteration of the Hebrew "Joshua". There are many accounts of people not related to Jesus Christ that bare that name, at the time he is supposed to have lived. So, the big question is which one was he, and was he in fact the son of God? There are only anonymous accounts of this man, with NO physical evidence of his actual existence, let alone that he had magical powers and was able to be resurrected after death. Which is the bedrock of Christianity. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof has not been met that the resurrection was an historical FACT. Just as a foot note... Some earlier religions had characters that were born of a virgin and were killed and resurrected. Quite a coincidence wouldn't you say?

@@Steve-Cross steve cross: The historicity of Jesus Christ is completely undisputed by all the leading scholars in the field, including those of atheist background.

@Dd S Dd S: The bible is not about "peddling ancient ghost myths", but about, largely proven, actual historical facts. Interestingly you atheists would never question the historicity of Alexander the Great. lol

@@jaikee9477… Hi Jaikee. I understand that you would want to believe that propaganda, but can you provide one piece of conclusive evidence that Jesus Christ was an actual person? Good Luck... :-) Here is my repost... During the time that Jesus was supposed to have lived, there were many profits peddling early pre Christianity. The name occasionally referred to as Yeshua by people of Jewish background, was a common name used at the time. The name Jesus is also a transliteration of the Hebrew "Joshua". There are many accounts of people not related to Jesus Christ that bare that name, at the time he is supposed to have lived. So, the big question is, which Jesus was he, and was he in fact the son of God? There are only anonymous second/third hand accounts of this man, with NO physical evidence of his actual existence, let alone that he had magical powers and was able to be resurrected after death, which is the bedrock of Christianity. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof has not been met that the resurrection was actual historical FACT or that Jesus Christ was an actual historical figure. There are just as many historians that do not believe the Jesus as described in the bible, was ever a real character. Just as a foot note... Some earlier pagan religions had characters that were born of a virgin and were killed and resurrected, one even turned water into wine, Greek God Dionysus 1500 years before your Jesus... Quite a coincidence wouldn't you say? I don't know how to break this to you, but Santa isn't real either, but St Nicholas has just as much historicity, maybe even more than your Jesus... Best wishes.

Why is it impossible his body was moved? Couldn't Joseph of Arimathea have been using his tomb as a temporary tomb? Why would producing a bloated unrecognisable corpse convince believers that Jesus was actually dead?

There are reasons by which we can come to conclude that the stolen body theory is illogical (not necessarily impossible), but that isn't what my comment is about.

retsea1 I can't see how you can rule out a natural explanation over a supernatural explanation. As for Jesus not existing, that too can't be ruled out. For example, the Roswell incident could have been made up out of whole cloth, yet people believe that.

Yeah, we're not on the same line of thought here. I'm not sure if explaining why would, either, so I'll just it at that.

Interestingly enough, the empty tomb itself is actually the least important piece of evidence for the Resurrection. People knew, even back then, that resurrection is not a usual occurrence. If you found an empty tomb, your conclusion is naturally either that 1) you went to the wrong tomb or 2) that the body was moved. And this is exactly what the disciples first believe before they actually encounter the risen Christ.

King ZERO who said that?

Will Steed Jesus said that. Have you not read the Bible? I can easily direct you to where he said that, but surely you already know where to find it. The Canaanite woman tricked Jesus into helping her after he refused her first request. Jesus was a Jew, he said not one dot not one twiddle should be changed in the Hebrew Scriptures. The LAW!!!

Arnold Johnson he also said all authority has been given unto him. “Go therefore and make disciples of ALL nations”

Will Steed You conveniently left this part out “Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.” Jesus said to follow the Jewish Law. Are you a Christian Jew?

Arnold Johnson I cant help but get the feeling you’re hinting towards only salvation for the Jews. Please correct me if I’m wrong? Then we can continue this conversation

Finney? Seriously? What a heretic.

@@chriscravens8318 lol

@@chriscravens8318 can't get enough of the heretic hunters. Please share some more heretics with us...

100% agreed. I too was shocked at that. The form of Christianity that we are seeing today has become far too diluted with teaching that are not of Christ. People are free to believe what they will, but if you stand under the banner of Christ, then you have to conform to the teachings of Christ. Or make it clear that you are not a disciple of Christ. Those of us that are need to make that distinction all the more clear.

Anytime you want to prove your book of debunked ancient fairy tales with the talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, which promises magic poison resistance to believers---go ahead! "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). So post your video demonstrating the magic poison-resistance superpowers that Lying Jesus promised! What happens when fools believe liars? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" - 2 Drink Strychnine At Service and Die In Display of Faith, New York Times. It's not like the Bible is full of lies, right? Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *the Bible is full of lies* , even if they refuse to use the term." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

@@mythbuster1483 Anyone that drinks strychnine is just plain stupid! Not a person of Faith. You know that very well! Your faith is believing there is no God. How smart is that? Don't let your brain overload your ass hole!

Numbers 22:28-30 “Then the LORD opened the donkey's mouth, and it said to Balaam, "What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?" Balaam answered the donkey, "You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now." The donkey said to Balaam, "Am I not your own donkey, which you have always ridden, to this day?

God may love you but the rest of us think your a homophobic twat.

Emotional appeals.

George Chen I don't believe you heard him correctly, because your statement is clearly incorrect in light of what he stated, in order to communicate the validity of his sources and scholarship on this subject. If you disagree that's your choice and your right, but you can't disagree based on lack of evidence, which would therefore make this a 'faith only' argument. He spent his entire lecture explaining why you should believe him based evidence confirmed by secular and Christian scholars alike, not because he believed it to be true by faith. And he illustrated how every historian exercises their discipline in that subject to verify anything! The fact that you object to his information with 'it's a matter of faith' shows that you haven't fully taken in the information he presented. Open you eyes and ears and listen again. If you apply your objection to Jesus, please apply it also to all history. I doubt that you would attack Roman history using the same objections, or get any different result.

It is true. If you deny miracles in the first place the historical evidence means nothing to you. And this is what the current atheists don't understand.

It’s not a story, it’s a historical fact.

@@annebalderston2520 IT'S A STORY.

The earthly priesthood is obsolete.

He is one of the most leading scholars

@Christian Slayer WOW. is this the real Christisn Slater .. iv never had a celebrity message me before .🤣 you are undeniably very intelligent and as soon as I get time to look up your scripture references I will reply . so on your mission to discredit the scriptures what drives your motives ? where do you think we come from .

@Christian Slayer I'm looking forward to putting together a rebuttal ..thank you also for being civil . I'm working crazy hrs right now so it might take me a while to go through all the addresses in your argument ..there's alot there . I definitely dont have the Intellect you seem to have but I believe I am equipped well enuff . you should check out Sean Griffin @ KINGDOM IN CONTEXT .RU-vid channel . he is very intelligent and respectful .he debates atheists and Christians .I will answer as soon as possible ..thanks for the opportunity

@Christian Slayer well I'm by far not a world class scholar but throughly enjoy in depth study. anyway give Sean Griffin a look . he has a new channel called KINDOMCAST . you wont be disappointed . if you offer up a debate one any biblical subject I'm sure you will enjoy his knowledge .

Which is "zero'".

​@@mythbuster1483 Only value opinions that agree with yours?

@@evanwickham7743 No, I simply noted that the price of admission was zero, so according to your argument, the Q&A section is worth nothing, correct?

@@evanwickham7743 But videos like this are unnecessary because you can PROVE that the bible is fiction and that Jesus is imaginary with a simple scientific experiment. The anonymous scribes who wrote the fictional gospel tales claim that Jesus said: "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22). “Whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you" (John 16:23), "whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours" (Mark 11:24). So go ahead and set up your video camera and pray for Jesus to appear to you right now! If my reality-based worldview is correct, nothing will happen, which I can predict in advance. But feel free to prove it to yourself that Jesus is imaginary. To counter any excuses, the bible claims that Jesus appeared to people after his supposed death (1 Cor. 15:3-8), including the claim that he appeared to 500 people at once, and appeared to Paul. So the authors of the gospel tales knew that it was necessary to PROVE claims by having Jesus appear to people after his death in order to provide EVIDENCE that he was really resurrected. 1) If Jesus was real, and a god, he COULD appear to you, or to anyone. 2) He supposedly appeared to others in ancient stories that we have no evidence for. 3) Jesus supposedly promised to appear in response to prayers. 4) FACT: Regardless how much you pray or ask...he won't appear. The most likely explanation for the above? Fictional literary characters can't hear prayers or do anything in real life. Jesus won’t appear because he CAN’T, and because the authors of the gospel tales were liars. Praying to Jesus is no different than praying to Spider-Man or Gandalf, or any other fictional character in a book. Feel free to list your excuses for why Jesus doesn't appear. I'll play 'logical fallacy bingo' with your responses. Also, why am I accurately able to predict the outcome in advance? “The predictive power of a scientific theory refers to its ability to generate testable predictions.” By the way, liars like to say, “Do not put my lies to the test,” but those telling the truth don’t mind if you validate their claims. Right?

At best the Pauline epistles are just a bunch of hearsay from a religious nut who never met an earthly Jesus and claims to have gotten all his information through divine revelation: "The gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ" (Galatians 1:11-12). That's a trustworthy source? If I claim that Jesus appeared to me and revealed that you're a serial killer, and I went to the cops and told them that, do you think they'd arrest you? That would be considered 'evidence' that you were a serial killer? LOL!

Love your enemy and neighbor and don't hurt another was heard of and practiced way before the bible.

@@anonymousjohnson976 The bible properly says why you need to love your enemy and neighbors, you are also wrong in the love your enemy part, people didn't love their enemies, Jews hated their enemies, that was the rule before, hate enemies, love friends, but Jesus clarifies that no you should love your enemies as well as your neighbors.

@@grilledcheese2285 : I am agnostic, and I agree we should love everyone and hate the deed. "Don't hurt another" was heard of and practiced before the bible.

@@anonymousjohnson976 right but the bible is the justification of "love people" its because God loves people and hate is evil, it brings destruction, other religions like islam say, if unbeliever, then hate, but the bible says, if unbeliever, then love. Love defeats evil but we dont know why until we read the bible.

@@grilledcheese2285 I disagree. As I said, "love your enemy and neighbor" was heard of before the bible was written. It seems that a lot of christians have hate in them, more than atheists.

It's a minor point, but it does seem that Paul spent 3 years in Damascus (rather than 3 years in Arabia) prior to meeting with Peter and James. What was he doing for those 3 years? We don't know. He may have been telling others in Damascus that he saw Jesus, but we cannot say for sure.

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Just an update. STILL watching it

ADR3, how come taking so long, or you never watched it till the end? Or just addictive to inquisitive. Watching in refresh mode. Refresh every now and then to stay on top of the subject. Yeah, it becomes useful when engaged in various arguments, because you are more aware. When it comes to this kinda time-and-place records, it corroborates the narrative quite properly. The gospel becomes first pungent then poignant and we understand it and feel it. No worries, just thinking out loud.

@@mpoweron I just like it. His voice soothes me to sleep. I have pleasant, thoughtful dreams :)

@@mpoweron and yes, still watching it

@Maya De paz Don’t murder any babies today just because some member of a death cult claims that God said so. "This is what the Lord Almighty says...put to death men and women, children and infants." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). So you’d murder your neighbor’s entire family, including his infant, if some man claimed that Jesus appeared to him and said you should? If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right?

@Maya De paz Don’t murder your wife and kids today if they choose a different faith, just because a member of some death cult CLAIMS that god said so: "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, 'Let us go and worship other gods'...Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people" (Deut. 13:6-9). If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right?

@Maya De paz Liars can claim anything, and fools can believe anything on faith, but “The burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded.” So let me know when you find some evidence to support absurd claims about an *INVISIBLE MAGIC SKY GENIE* , or that he impregnated Jesus’ mother 2,000 years ago, or that Jesus was a *VIRGIN-BORN DEMIGOD WITH SUPERPOWERS* and that his *ROTTING CORPSE MAGICALLY RETURNED FROM THE DEAD* before levitating bodily into outer space, or evidence for the talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, etc.

@Maya De paz Speaking of suicide, the LITERARY CHARACTER of Jesus as depicted in the gospel fairy tales was a proven liar and fraud who pranked credulous morons into killing themselves: "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). What happens when *FOOLS* believe *PROVEN LIARS* ? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" - New York Times

@@mythbuster1483 “So you’d murder your neighbor’s entire family, including his infant, if some man claimed that Jesus appeared to him and said you should?” No. “If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right?” No. Why do you say so? I think what you’re trying to do here is to try to show absurdity of belief in the sources Christians use, namely the Bible. However, I have to tell you that your method does not seem to be effective at all. Atheists have always paraded similar tactics. They bring up miracles and make them sound absurd and crazy as if they were totally impossible. If there was indeed a God, none of these miracles do not seem impossible at all. The atheists need to understand that even if they make miracles sound absurd, the theists could simply bring up the fact that God could make even the seemingly absurd possible.

Don’t murder any babies today just because some member of a death cult claims that God said so. "This is what the Lord Almighty says...put to death men and women, children and infants." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). So you’d murder your neighbor’s entire family, including his infant, if some man claimed that Jesus appeared to him and said you should? If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased cult members, then it MUST be a reliable source, right?

@@mythbuster1483 I totally totally understand where you're coming from cause its true that there have been many misguided messages within the practices that have led to the destruction of lives throughout the history of "religion" that till this day we need to awaken to but please know that the Faith that "I practice is a Faith founded on the basis of the love that Jesus communicates which is a love that doesn't condone violence, prejudice or division...let alone the taking away of any life. In fact this is why when studying the specific history of Jesus there was no militia.. no acts of violence on His part which in fact resulted in a brutal death which He took no retaliation on. As human beings we have a long way to go. I only hope that these discussions are brought to the surface and discussed openly and kindly so that we can arrive to our human becoming wisely. I think it's about time we embrace ourselves as spiritual beings who are learning yet to be human beings.. I believe with love, respect for each other, compassion, openness and understanding together we can all navigate through this life experience more successfully. +E

@@EdwinVazquezMusica *FACT* - the New Testament contains proven lies by the anonymous, biased fanatics who wrote it. "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). Go ahead! Let’s see you post a video showing you drinking deadly poison without harm. It’s not like the anonymous, biased cult members who wrote Mark were proven liars, forgers and frauds, right? What happens when fools believe liars? "A preacher and another leader...died early yesterday after drinking strychnine at a service" - 2 Drink Strychnine At Service and Die In Display of Faith, New York Times. It's not like the Bible is full of lies, right? Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *the Bible is full of lies* , even if they refuse to use the term." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

i noticed that too Mike but I don't think Gary missed this as anyone who's read the Bible a few times would know this and he's been studying this thing for 40 years. I think we somehow both must have misunderstood what he was saying about the creeds??

I would love to know your story. What did God say to you?

Luke Wilbur In one of the greatest crises in my life He told me to look in the mirror to find the answer to my question "why". I immediately knew what He meant and confessed that I had been a total idiot. And then I asked "and now what ?". Jesus Christ told me this: "tell Me what you really want" . I knew it was He, because I asked my question directly to Him. I said that I did not believe that because I did not deserve to be granted that. He told me another 2 times "tell Me what you really want". I decided to ask very specific what I wanted and that I would like to see it within a 30 day period. ( how arrogant and totally out of order ). The following period it seemed totally the opposite would happen. What I asked seemed impossible and very unprobable. Then it happened ! The 29th day everything changed and the 30th day it came to pass. Exactly as I had asked ! My wife came home after being gone for 29 days. And we are happier than ever before. And this is only one example of more miracles He did in my life. God bless.

MrWordBeliever, id love to hear your story in full. If u feel lead to (after u pray about it) please email me @ brunom72@yahoo.com & fill me in. thank you kindly. much love, many blessings -brunom72

brunom72 Why ? And for what purpose ? I would have to translate my complete testimony. That would take some time. For the right purpose I just might do that. I"ll pray about it and you will hear the answer I get.

I would like you to explain to the parents of the slain kids at Sandy Hook why god saved you 3 times yet couldn't bring himself to save 20 innocent kids. Explain to the Haitian/Katrina/Hurricane Sandy victims why your god did not intervene for them. I would waiger a bet that many of them were praying just a hard, if not harder, as you did. Whenever believers have some good fortune they are quick to give god credit as if that's the only possible explanation. They seem to forget believers in other gods or even non-believers get lucky breaks from time to time. A pious Hindu or Muslim could tell the same story. Would you believe their god(s) came through for them or was it Jesus? Your lucky streek is amazing but it's not miraculous. I know many devout Christians who prayed to God to save a themselves or love ones from terminal illnesses and got no answer. Were they not praying hard enough? The fact is that people will sometimes get lucky breaks when stuck in tough situations. Some will not. That's just how life goes for everyone - whether you believe in god or not. It's ridiculous to use your chosen god as the reason (explained earlier). Furthermore, when you attribute your fortunes to god, you make him look like a monster for not granting the same fortune to more deserving victims. It also makes you look self-centered and narcisistic. In an unconscious way, you're saying that you were more deserving or the "others" had it coming. Either way your god doesn't come way looking good to an unbiased observer.

I Iook to Christ for 'light' to live by. If my faith is fixed on the cross I find a corpse. If I stay there at the cross in my faith all I see is Jesus suffering the wrath of God against sinners including me If I look to where Christ is now, seated at the right hand of God, I am raised together with him to sit in heavenly places IN CHRIST JESUS. That's better in my book. I cannot find how a literal flesh and blood resurrection is in harmony with the Christ which is a life giving spirit. I Cor: 15:45 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A45&version=KJV This doctrine of the resurrection has taken some hard theological hits and twists and turns in the way different Christians have explained it. It's not cut and dry. The reasoning above is how I had to make sense of it in order for me to accept it. The incarnation of Christ was absolutely necessary in order to enter into solidarity with the human experience. It was a wonderful thing he decided to do on mankind's behalf. But the incarnation is only part of the story. He is no longer incarnate according to Paul. He is a life giving spirit in the heavenly places if there is any truth in Paul's description and explanation as to the meaning of the Christ Event. I've come across some who think very little of Paul's theology. I like it a lot. biblehub.com/ephesians/2-6.htm

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@@TheGuiltsOfUs wow. Profound. Where did you find such great authority to speak with? Thanks for sharing.

@River Scott Hello. I'll try to answer your question later. Im watching video testimonies of Atheists turning to the Lord Jesus.😁

@River Scott Hello. I'll try to answer your question. First off, the religious leaders, after the crucifixion, asked permission from Pilate to put guards outside the tomb. They dont want the apostles stealing the body and saying Jesus was resurrected. But Jesus got resurrected anyway and the guards fled for fear. During Roman times, they put a seal on the tomb to know if it has been tampered with.The religuous leaders knew the tomb was secured by the guards and the seal. But when the resurrection happened, they have to bribe the soldiers to invent a different story. Mary Magdalene and other disciples did check, and when they found the tomb empty, they asked if Jesus' body has been moved. They were later informed by the angels and even Jesus himself about the resurrection. Second, the verse 1 Corinthians 15:15 must be understood in a context. If you read the whole chapter you will see that Paul was making a point. He was saying that the resurrection did happen. For example in 1 Cor. 15:3-8. He summarizes eyewitness accounts of Jesus appearing to the disciples, early believers, and Paul himself. He wasnt denying the resurrection at all. In 1 Cor 15: 12, we see there that not all followers of Jesus believed in resurrection. And so Paul rebuked them saying that faith in Jesus would be in vain and his preaching false if there is no resurrection.

@River Scott Hello. I am no great philosopher but I will try to share what I know in simple terms. How do I know that the resurrection happened? Because Jesus said so. Why should I trust Jesus? Because he rose from the dead. Let me layout my argument for Jesus. 1. There are eyewitness accounts of Jesus' crucifixion. A. The Roman soldiers knew how to crucify. They knew what they were doing. And they get severe punishment for not doing their duty. B. There is no good reason to doubt the eyewitness accounts of the crucifixion. 11. There are eyewitness accounts of Jesus' resurrection. There is no good reason to believe that these eyewitnesses lied about what they experienced. A. They gained nothing from said ruse (money, power,prestige) B. They were willing to die for this truth, making them very credible eyewitnesses. C. There is no good reason to believe that these eyewitnesses were all mentally insane. How could so many people in one place and in one time all of a sudden be insane when there was no evidence of pre-existent mental illness? And even if this be the case, how credible is it that so many mentally insane people got their stories straight? 111. Only three groups had access to the body of Christ: The Romans, the Jewish enemies of Christ, and the disciples of Christ. A. The Romans would not fake the resurrection. They were the ones who crucified Jesus. B. The Jewish enemies of Christ were the ones who wanted him dead in the first place. They were even paranoid about a theft of the body and demanded that the Roman authorities secure the grave. C. Despite the paranoia of the Jewish leaders, there is no good reason to believe that the disciples of Christ would fake his resurrection. Most of them displayed incredulity to his claims of a death and resurrection. Nor would they gain anything except persecution. IV. Jesus claimed to be true God. A. There is no evidence or reason that Jesus would lie about this. 1. Jesus did not gain anything from such a lie, except death 2. There is no evidence that Jesus was crazy. B. Jesus proved his divinity by rising from the dead and performing miracles for which there were credible eyewitness accounts. V. Jesus declared the Bible to be the innerrant Word of God. A. Jesus declared the Old Testament to be the Word of God. B. Jesus sent the Spirit to inspire the New Testament writers. VI. Since Jesus is divine, we ought to believe what he says about the inerrancy of the Bible.

@River Scott Hello. I would like to refer you to these videos. And let experts answer for me. Evidence for Jesus' Empty Tomb Gary Habermas, Mikel Del Rosario, Darrell L. Bock Making Sense of the Old Testament God (Paul Copan). 😁

@River Scott I am sorry if you feel that I sent you on a wild goose chase. I just thought you might want a more expert reference. Let's agree to disagree my friend. I dont want to shove my faith down your throat. We have freewill afterall. All I can say is God loves you and I love you. That is why I am sharing my faith with you. The Good News of salvation through faith in the Lord Jesus is the heart of Christianity. It gives people hope, and dignity, and a solid moral foundation. If this world is all there is, then we are all miserable. I would like it much better that I am not a product of some random accident but a wonderful creation of God. Who became human like me and died and rose again for me so salvation is made possible. And now I can truly love Him with all my heart, and soul, and mind. And love others as I love myself. Take care in this pandemic.

Dd S obviously didn’t understand the passage you replied to

@demi- dogg Acts only refers to the martyrdoms of James the brother of John and Stephen. Clement of Rome refers to the martyrdoms of Peter and Paul, Igantius of Antioch (a student of John) claims that the apostles "despised death" after meeting the risen Jesus in appearant reference to their martyrdoms. Hegisippus, Clement of Alexandria and Josephus refer to the martyrdom of James the brother of Jesus.

@demi- dogg It was left out because the NT books were (probably) written prior to the deaths of Paul, Peter and James in the 60s AD.

@demi- dogg Written much later? Really? So the Gospels don't count as historical sources because they're written far too late at a few decades after the events? Even though most of what we know from ancient history comes from a handful of sources written CENTURIES after the events?

@demi- dogg Phlegon does mention the following (as quoted by Julius Africanus): “Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Cæsar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth hour to the ninth - manifestly that one of which we speak. But what has an eclipse in common with an earthquake, the rending rocks, and the resurrection of the dead, and so great a perturbation throughout the universe? . . . And calculation makes out that the period of 70 weeks, as noted in Daniel, is completed at this time.” - Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18.1

***** I agree with you! I believe the resurrection based on history evidence. However, I think Wittgenstein made the point here too, some people reject the Resurrection argument simply because they don't want to. They don't have a heart to love.

***** The Resurrection of the Son of God (Christian Origins and the Question of God, Vol. 3) www.amazon.com/Resurrection-Christian-Origins-Question-Vol/dp/0800626796 Enjoy Reading. In apostle John's letter, he wrote "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full." (1 John) Also in Paul's letter, He said "And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith." ( 1 Corinthians 15:14). These letters were authentic. At least the Apostles and Paul believed that they saw the raising Jesus. The truth has been spoken and was written down. Do you believe it?

+Truth Ministries No eyewitness report is 100% identical to the next. The same even passed through different lenses pick up on different things.

***** THe Bible is The Word of God to me. I'm saying, people pick up on different things, when observing a situation unfold. If there weren't some differences, then there wouldn't be four distinct people retelling an event. Then also factor in they are recording what happened to different people of different backgrounds. One of the four writers of the gospels were a doctor, that influenced his testimony. Some of the writers take for granted that the readers should know jewish life and terminology, which clearly all do not know. He was adressing a jewish audience with his letter. All scripture is inspired through the Holy Spirit, but penned by man. And God used them accordingly.

***** That what I was trying to say. English is not my first language.

jB1972 "I'm happy that I dont need to be convinced of something that I know in my heart and with every fiber of my being to be the truth." Said every religious person from every contradictory religion.

Samiam 666 “Jesus isn’t real” said every atheist who denies actual facts that Jesus is literally proven true simply because they want to be right all the time but in reality shows the foolishness of themselves, along with their ignorance.

@@thomas7571 “Jesus isn’t real” said every atheist who denies actual facts" Incorrect. The vast majority of atheists I know don't say this. Why would you make a claim that is so easily shown to be bullshit? And the reason we don't say it is because WE DON'T CARE. What is starkly lacking is evidence for the claims that Jesus did miracles and is the son of god. I happen to be convinced "with every fiber of my being" That I am god. It doesn't make it so. Or does it?

Samiam 666 You’re literally ignorant to your own belief, pretty much all atheist claim that Jesus isn’t real, simply because they don’t want to admit that HE actually rose from the dead. The most funny thing is, most atheist believe they came from a Big Bang which can not be proven in any way whatsoever, but find a hard time believing in the Lord Jesus, it’s simply because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.

Samiam 666 I want you to explain something to me, when I was around 15 I’ve always wanted a sister, I’m not sure why, I’ve just always wanted a sister all my life, one night I was walking my dog outside and I randomly decided to pray about it, I prayed to God and asked something along the lines of “If I have a sister in heaven please give me a sign” and I kid you not, the very moment I opened up my eyes I saw two shooting stars, the absolute very moment my eyes opened, I couldn’t help but break down in tears and sob because my prayer was answered at the very moment. A few years down the road I’m on a hike with my mom, I talk to her about me wanting a sister and all, she then brings up that my dad had a daughter with his first wife before they got divorced, right then and there I realized that I had a sister and this goes back to where my prayer was answered by God. This is not a coincidence, as I myself never knew my dad had a daughter, which means I had a “half sister” but overall a sister in general, but she died as a baby, around 8 months if I can remember correctly, and according to God’s Word all babies go to heaven. I have many more stories that I could tell, even ones that include being healed from pain in the name of Jesus, but this stuff isn’t fake man and I’ve truly experienced these things.

As far as I can tell, the answer to your question is both yes and no. Yes, Qumran was destroyed around 68 C.E., so nothing that is found there will date after 70 C.E. at the latest. No, I do not believe that they have found any NT documents there. I know that they have Qumran texts, OT manuscripts and various other writings from that time period. I'm looking at an article (and I may have outdated information, so please let me know if you have more recent sources) written by Lawrence Schiffman entitled "Significance of the Scrolls" and he says they have not found any NT documents/fragments. What I find fascinating is the amount of coherence there is between the OT manuscripts that have been found and what is currently being published in our modern Bibles. When comparing the medieval text of Isaiah with the one found at Qumran (900+ years apart), it was something like a 99% match, with the differences coming on minor spelling or grammatical items that do not change the meaning of the text.

I agree on the whole Isaiah scroll find, that it is one complete text and not two separate texts. It is interesting to note that they also found proto-Hebrew/Canaanite language as the language of choice, indicating that it was translated from a previous work, before the second temple period. That also happens to prove that the prophecies of Messiah in Isiah, were in fact written before Jesus was born, and therefore verifying that Jesus is Messiah. Papyrus fragments found to be parts of the 4 gospels were found... RU-vid watch?v=UAp6KUwEBZs A more literal reading of the text means that we as Christians are certifiably crazy, that we believe there was a world flood, and that a man was really raised from the dead? Isaiah was pretty crazy too. Do we believe it, or not? God bless.

You may want to research what the Dead Sea scrolls actually state, they are not just bible texts. You will see what "they" not "God" decided NOT to put in the bible.

Such as? Don't lead me on without giving me a direction. :)

I agree that they aren't just Bible texts. From what I have read about the DSS, there are Old Testament manuscripts, Jewish writings and Qumran texts that may have been written by the Essenes. Some of the writings are already in the OT, some of them were not put in the Torah by Judaism and there were others that were simply doctrine manuscripts from the outlying Jewish group who secluded themselves in the desert. However, the articles that I have read regarding the DSS all point to the fact that what was found there does not significantly change what we already have in Jewish and Christian writings. What has been found there has given us a better understanding and more corroboration in regards to certain aspects of Judeo-Christian life, as well as insight into the different sects of Judaism in the 1st century. I think they are important for "background information", if you will, but I don't think they significantly change what we know. I am planning to research this topic more thoroughly at some point, but I have other things I need to look into before. This is kind of a back burner issue for me right now.

I've spent my life in the persuit of science and logic, and have a few scientific degrees, and would only add to what you said by saying that from an ACTUAL scientific point of view, I agree with you. Anyone who claims science is in conflict with the findings of faith can only get there by ignoring evidence and refusing to follow where the data goes, which wouldn't be scientific at all.... That man lived. That man died. That man predicted to the hour the time of his own resurrection. That man was resurrected as predicted. With all of that being the 'difficult' part, I think it is 'easy' to take him at his word for his motivation in doing so... His absolute intention was to be the final sacrifice to God to atone for all sin, with the only condition being that you accept that gift and allow that he paid for your sin.

If the magic prayer superpowers promised by Jesus worked, Christians wouldn't need modern medical science, which is based on evolution. "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22), "And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well" (James 5:15). "And these signs will accompany those who believe...they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well" (Mark 16:17-18). "Nothing will be impossible for you" (Matt. 17:20). What happens when fools believe liars? "Faith-Healing Parents Jailed After Second Child's Death" - Time Magazine.