Miracles: Is Belief in the Supernatural Irrational? | John Lennox at Harvard Medical School 

He represents the Lord well

he pork chop, humble?- You*must* be joking, he is an arrogant tenditious piece of fartty meat, and *No* kind of christian for want of the necessary ingredints

Is there a gentle way to suggest you were sold a bill of goods and suffer from a grand delusion? IF your fraction of Christianity is right that means billions past and present are wrong and played for-profit and favor? Yes?

@@1Skeptik1 why pretend to be gentle? Lol

'he completely elevated Christianity as the one true religion without insulting others'..... I think those of other faiths would consider that an insult. If a Muslim did it, why would they be wrong?

@@zzm9134 let me clarify: the method he used to explain his position is not confrontational. The content itself would be disputed by people holding a different faith. In other words you may say: “i am not mad at how you said it, it’s what you said”.

@@cypresse1620 You could try and answer my question...

+EreynateTasGrafas God lives inside of him.

+ikano BG of course, he's a born again Christian!

Amen....and alleluia....If all the atheists were aware how many of the scientists in the world believe in a personal God they might rethink their smug a priopri assumptions

God does not exist. But it's interesting to say that God has more interest in people who don't care...perhaps by not caring i can communicate better with God if he has more reason to pick up the phone?

@@zzm9134 God exists, stop fooling yourself.

@@Sojourner777 Prove it

@@zzm9134 the fact that you are alive rn is proof enough, and the evidence for Jesus life, death and resurrection is enough evidence itself.

@@Sojourner777 The fact i am alive doesn't prove God exists. It certainly doesn't prove that your particular conception of what 'God' is is True. God could just be another way of saying luck, space pixies or aliens or anything else.The only evidence you have for the other things is that someone wrote it in a book. Lot's of other things have been written in other books..like the Quran. Is that enough evidence to prove the Quran is the Truth?

Tyson Sprinter I'm pretty sure that it was Charlie Manson.

How is having a demeanor that allows for some thoughts to be put together first before verbalising them being deluded or presumptuous? I don't understand how this is so. That is a huge leap you are making there. It in no way implies that. I don't know how that assertion was rational at all. And you also accuse your opponent of just being ignorant like a child. That is quite an arbitrary assertion to make. It is very easy to see how the a-theist worldview lacks a basis to validate itself, and hence becomes irrational. Within it's own worldview, there is no consistency to be rational. If you say so, then the question needs to be asked how are you or anyone else correct over those who choose not to make rational statements? Logically inconsistent validation. You kind of proved the point for the atheistic side of the debate though, nice one.

Lennox knows atheists are very disturbed people, only a higher power can talk to them, he lets God form his thoughts and it shows. I was an atheist for 40 yrs, it takes a mind to the gates of hell, aka; insanity.

He comes back with a well thought out answer.....or a convenient lie.

He is pure believe

@Blacx Adam meaning what??

Reason, judge not yet ye be judge. But I do judge the tree by it's fruits. Hehehe! Agree!

@@oliverjamito9902 Huh?

If the hat fits.., put it on...if it don't ....walk away. I am really sure you've got a fab hold on everything around you....good for you.

***** No delusion there, I must say. You don't know where you came from....What you are here for and what the finish will be. You can't walk away then so be it. I would agree that "religion" has had many negative affects on society......as has communism, atheism, have it your own wayism. Do you fit into any of these perchance? Religion doesn't claim to teach morality..... it reveals our immorality. But then, that depends on whether you believe there is a moral lawgiver. You don't, so where do your morals come from? Do you make them up? Do they shift with the passing of time? Today homosexuality is accepted but pedophilia isn't. Whose going to say its wrong down the track .....majority? Why is itwrong? How about porn? Abortion? You have no foundations... Happy little snowman?

***** Live and let live.

Dion Sanchez Try telling that to a womans libber whos bent on pro-abortion rights.

I have. Some unbelievers are hypocrites. They ask for "tolerance" and are intolerant toward people of faith.

The Left believe they are the only one who is right, they believe they are the only one who should exist. The left is extremist in nature. Just look at every socialist dictators in the history. By the way, Hitler was a socialist, he was on the left not the right.

@@seanleith5312 what are you talking about?

Thank god also. And a little bit cause i use to like his speech😅

Yes. I find that apologists are the best teachers in the deep things of. God. I have learned more and got great light in the last year then i did since i was saved and thats almost 40 years

I was a Militant Atheist before and this guy, along with Hugh Ross and Gary Habermas, were the people who helped me think and changed my views. Took me 4 years to make that decision. Of course, my fellow Atheist friends were so disappointed and microaggresively insult me from time to time (which I understand, because I was one of them before). Yet I don't feel any hatred towards them but love and currently reaching out to them. It amazes me how God can change a person's heart and mind like mine.

@@Roy-ol3qx I was also on the same path as you were but thank God that through people like John Lennox, William Lane Craig, Ravi Zacharias, J Warner Wallace, etc, He also allowed me to see the truth of the Gospel and belief in the God of Israel. I praise God for your life, keep pushing and enduring to the end :) God bless you.

Not really

@@zzm9134 come on troll. Elaborate please.

@@johnjaso385 I already did

Yes I am amazed at his knowledge... to me he is the modern day CS Lewis

Gods don’t exist. Don’t know why people have to rely ona magical crutch

A huge Amen!

I’m in awe of Dr. John Lennox! He’s brilliant but humble, brilliant but so kind. I’m sure he knows Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ knows him. Joan Bunge Florida USA in Christ all things can be done. I’m a new born again Christian 🙏🏽💕🙏🏽💕

How many books of his did you buy?

@@schmetterling4477 I have all his books, most are signed too!

Me 2

Me 3

I adopted him as my pa, a long ways back.He has a great mind.

He reminds me of mine. I love him.

Me 4

That's amazing. Your God has all the same properties as my transcendental rubber duck!

So evident? What the fuck? For fuck sake.

willzer808 I have seen your comments on a lot of threads buddy Lol. Keep searching for the truth bud. I just wanted to let you know I love you. I mean that too!😊 I love you too! Gnomefro

Gnomefro Of course, it is funny eh? Won't all of us die some day? Hope you meet your transcendental rubber duck on the other side, so that you may have nothing to be afraid of. But if you meet the God whom you say has the same properties as your transcendental duck, then you have every reason to fear...! Life on earth is just a mist.

+ChiTownOnDeck Agree, except for "God is the beginning and the end. Nothing was made without him or her or both as one.

I completely agree he explains things that make you anxious to hear more

Somebody make a meme of this!!!

Time stamp?

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And he can speak German (very well, I can attest), French, Spanish and Russian, as far as I know.

I taught him.

His "rock solid logic" was exactly the sort of God Of The Gaps argument that he falsely claimed not to follow. Debunking his conclusions is itself a simple matter of the application of logic.

Cygnus Ustus God of the gaps? The Christian god isn’t a god of the gaps.

My brother I agree indeed. Ought to let you know. Don't mind my grammar. Not to good with grammar. Be encouraged, you have many, many, many, true spiritual brothers. Likewise, Jesus sacrifice himself for you and me. Likewise, I'll give my life for you kind of love. And my brother behind you will do the same. Reason, that's how me and you can BECOME ONE. LUV YA BROTHER!

@@oliverjamito9902 Lol.

@@cygnusustus Please do share your logic for debunking his conclusions.

In Christianity we don't believe that god intervenes. That's superstition.

@@schmetterling4477 what, then is Christianity?

@@delilalobo1296 A superstition that says that Jesus will come back to resurrect people and to judge their resurrected corpses. The resurrected will then, for the most part, be thrown into a lake of fire. They stole that part from the Egyptians, it seems.

I am confused. Are you saying that the whole of Christianity is a superstition? From your earlier comment I thought you were referring to God intervention as a superstition

@@delilalobo1296 That's another superstition, just not one practiced in proper Christianity.

Steve Woods WLC is pretty good too

The one that really moved me from Militant Atheist to Christianity was Hugh Ross, Gary Habermas, and him.

@@Roy-ol3qx I love Hugh Ross and Gary Habermas, too ❤

+rationalmind Haha 'rationalmind'. How come that when a person calls himself rational/logical, they are almost always the first person in the room to proclaim something completely irrational

What is the difference?

Consensual reality: that which is believed to be reality based on a consensus view. That's not true at all. That's like saying, rationality is believing what everyone believes because everyone believes it (ie jumping on the bandwagon). Surely rational thinking is the art of coming to a true conclusion

***** I know. I'm just having some fun with you. There are plenty of books to read on the subject. The RU-vid comment section is not the most reliable source of information

Jesus Christ is His name.

***** I didn't expect better coming from you. Sha na na...

***** Not much.

Mega Drive You killed em megadrive. A bit overkill. Roasted em good 🔥🔥

WOW. "To God all things are natural." All things which He created, of course, and not the imitations of His works such as manmade objects that harm the natural world. But I like your point here. Nice.

***** Not supernatural? Well, I can agree with you that only God is my supernatural choice.

Belief without evidence is irrational. There is no evidence for the Supernatural. Therefore, belief in the Supernatural is irrational. A simple syllogism which nevertheless appears beyond the grasp of this simpleton.

@@cygnusustus there is a limitation to the empirical process, to make such a claim that what is observable is all there is, yet even that is filtered through the bias and lense of consciousness. Theism and atheism are assumptions at its core. No one questions there is an infinite parameter of energy at some point at the beginning of the universe/multiverse, what brings most people to theism logically is the assumption that omniscience exists.

@@cygnusustus A lovely syllogism to be sure, but the premises are suspect. We could quibble about the evidence, but the first I find to be far more interesting. It depends on what you mean by irrational; if you mean a-rational I'll cede the point. Supposing hypothetically there is no evidence either way, then believing either way is a-rational, but clearly not set against reason.

:) It sounds like justice was served. I'm always amused by these self proclaimed 'rational' people who show absolutely no self control in the comments they post. Shouldn't a rational mind be evidenced by the quality of one's comments and their ability to exit conversations that are about nothing? LOL.

Lea Leandre Amen to that! LOL