I think nepotism is problematic when people like Kim Kardashian is telling people they need to get off their ass and work. As if she knows what it means to truly work hard and still be struggling. It's a lot easier to hit a home run if you started off on 3rd base. Some of us don't even know where the game is being held to begin with 🤷🏾♀️
kim kardashian does not know a thing about work. she talks threw her padded ass. that ass is the air that has been sitting in her head for 30 years lol.
I think we really need to stop using terms like “talented”, because it makes it seem like these people are just naturally good entertainers somehow, when actually a lot of them were just able to get the best music/acting training money can buy. Anyone can study hard and become a decent actor, singer, etc if they want to. It has less to do with “talent” and more to do with time, money, and resources. I’m trying to use “skilled” instead of talented, because I think “talented” makes people think that if they’re not a natural at something, their dream will always be out of reach, and I don’t agree with that.
Good point. I wonder the history of how actors/actresses became referred as "talent" given they're the ones who are guided 9 out of 10 times on what to do. Better point you made is that acting is, well, acting. It's a unique skill (debatably whether it's an actually talent given the amount of guidance they get - they don't do they're own makeup or costumes, they don't write their own lines/barely any improve, they need to be guided by the directors, editors make them look real good) but ultimately it's pretending to be someone you're not (or someone you relate to because the character is closer to your own life/mentality).
I think its important for the artists to recognize their privileges too. They not only have connections, but some part of their talent is also constructed by their opportunities to study and practice whatever profession they want, like acting and singing classes by the best and most expensive schools/tutors. Eventhough their talent is worked hard for and etc, their opportunities are completely different. This discussion is very important in the distorted ideas surrounding meritocracy as well. Especially in the entertainment industry.
Yes! They must recognize their privilege. It's like how having white privilege doesn't make a white person a "bad person", or how a man having male privilege doesnt automatically make him a bad person. But what IS bad is ignoring that privilege & continuing to do nothing about it nor give back in any way.
Yesss Especially for some artists they rap about their struggles when they’re younger but actually they weren’t, it was one/both of their parents that were a producer or was already in the music industry. I really hate when people pretend that they struggle or fake that gang/hood style, well they just grew up in Beverly Hills or the nicer areas
@@imuRgency I'muRgency, I have seen many of Nepotism Babies like Dakota Johnson, Maude and Iris Apatow, Drew Berrymore have famous Parents and relatives.
and it’s weird to see people all up in arms when people point out the privilege that they have . At the end of the day these people live a completely different live than us and WILL never be able to understand what it means to build yourself up from absolutely nothing . I agree they shouldn’t be hated . I personally love Maude , zoe, tracee, etc however we are not going to be going about life in the same way & that’s fine to acknowledge.
Sure but it also creates gatekeeping. Sure they might have talent doesn't change the fact that it's closing the door EVEN more for people whose daddy isn't a producer to get their foot in the door.
@@SSM654 exactly, it becomes a cycle - their eventual kids will also have a leg up in the industry should they decide to pursue acting....there are talented people in every generation that will never even get a chance ...and while some are aware of their priviledge ive noticed that most avoid the topic or deny it entirely
True. It's one thing to be an unknown working your way through Hollywood, be it film and/or tv, but it's another to have a connection and reasonably pretty face to push your name in the "will be considered for the role" than "just another pretty face."
It’s not always a bad thing if you’re actually talented. Gladys Knight was Aaliyah’s aunt. Technically, Whitney Houston could be called a nepotism baby. She came from a LONG line of talent and music royalty. Her god mother was Aretha Franklin and her aunt was Dionne Warwick. But she was still gifted, herself. 🤷🏽♀️ That’s why I think this is a hard standard to apply across the board. If your relatives are movers and shakers in Hollywood, then yeah, you’re privileged. But if you simply *happen* to be related to other talented people, then I think that’s just a coincidence. I think it’s the same when it comes to modeling. Let’s be honest- Beauty, weight, and height are the biggest factors, and they’re also usually genetic. If you were chosen specifically for your unusual genes, then people who share your genes will have an advantage. Sadly, It’s not a meritocracy.
@RunningOnEmpty yeah but just because great singers who don’t have famous parents don’t get as much fame doesn’t mean that actual talented celebrities kids don’t deserve it. I’m sure if you had a lot of talent plus a famous parent you’d love the opportunity too, they don’t have to struggle just because others are
@RunningOnEmpty I think it’s important to acknowledge that they do have it easier but it’s still also good to acknowledge that talented kids with famous parents deserve a career in something they excel in. At the end of the day it’s the rest of us that give some people the attention and the money they have, so we should focus on the talented people instead of the ones that don’t do anything.
@@namjoonstrashbag6889 i don't think they were saying talented nepotism babies don't deserve their fame or don't work for what they have. But they have had to work relatively less hard (at least early in their career) than someone coming into the fame game with nothing. It's not inherently bad to have privilege. But it is bad to have privilege, not acknowledge it, & not try to even the playing field or give back in any way. Like some nepo babies hire a lot of minorities when they get to a certain status, & I love that. Nepotism, favoritism, & the privilege it brings has lead to our government & institutions being run almost by entirely white men for generations. I think nepotism can easily exclude minorities from fame. There are almost no famous Native American actors, for example. I fear that nepotism is too exclusionary, although some kids of famous parents deserve their fame & aren't bad people at all. They're extraordinarily lucky, but not bad.
Whitney Houston is one of the greatest voices of all time and she got all her vocal training from church. Her story is so different from other children of famous people, it feels strange to group her with them.
To be honest ever since I heard Maud Apatow was a nepotism baby it hasn't changed my perception of her. She's an incredible actress and among her cast she does not stand out as someone who shouldn't and doesn't deserve to be there. She got a big help of course but I can see her standing on her own and making a name for herself.
Literally same, and I like her even more now that I know she is aware of her privilege and wants to prove her talent rather just profiting off of Nepotism.
How is she aware of her privilege when she claims she’s never had any help from her parents but the only things she’s been in (except euphoria) are either written by her dad aur have her mom in a titular role. 😭😭
for me a problem with nepotism babies (besides them not being good at whatever they do) is if they don't acknowledge it or straight up deny it, say kendall and kylie jenner or lena dunham and basically the whole cast of girls. some nepobabies don't even allow questions about their families in interviews. there's literally nothing we can do about nepotism in hollywood, but as long as they are talented and accept it, i don't think it's that bad? like zoe kravitz has literally said that her parents helped her, and maude apatow talks a lot about her family, and what else can they do? they are good at what they do
The same way Americans refuse to acknowledge their “American privilege” cause let’s be honest most Americans wouldn’t be shit without their nationality.
These 'nepo babies' are widely sought after because we wallow in celebrity culture and we worship celebs. Producers and companies are just happy to have a famous name because it brings publicity. The human brain likes anything familiar and recognizable names are bankable. We need to stop worshipping celebs and people from the entertainment industry.
I concur. We give them attention so in a way we give them the green light to do it. Plus, as the years go by Hollywood proves that it's a bubble - it's relatively small industry once you're stock/brand is rising. Six degrees of separation exists in tv/film for the fact that people stay in each others professional circle in one or another.
Yeah Miley Cyrus is the case of a nepotism babie that eventually grew into her own. She originally got denied to be the lead of Hannah Montana, but because she wasn't not a good actor starting out (season one it was so cringey watching her) when the producers found out she was Dolly Parton's god daughter they gave her the role. But she has one of the best singer voices in the industry that was the biggest reason why her Twerk phase was so annoying because she didn't have to go that route her voice spoke for itself. She actually surpassed her dad with her music. Same with Janet Jackson.
Not only that but I think people are okay with her privileges, because she never denied them. She’s pretty, talented, and admitted that it was with her father’s and godmother’s help that she accomplished many things.
lol yeah and it even added to the realism having Dolly Parton on the show😂 like, Hannah Montana IS a nepotism baby kids! that's why she got famous and you don't!
Hey bestie 🖤! The funny thing is that people keep forgetting from time to time that Tracee Ellis Ross is Diana Ross’s daughter. Tracee has a different personality than her mother.
It’s funny Zoe is in the thumbnail bc her dad, Lenny Kravitz, is technically a nepotism baby too. His father was a NBC television producer and his mom was on The Jeffersons (half of the first interracial couple shown on prime time television.)
I just think it’s the nepotism babes who actual are known for their own life and career apart from their parents that people will have a hard time accepting. Willow and Jaden smith, Maude, Tracy Ellis Ross are all prime examples of people who started early and earned their fans from the get go. It’ll always be hard to deny the success of those with wealthy parents who also are uniquely talented and impactful on the viewer. Those people got their foot in the door in one second but there’s no denying the genuine talent and impactful work done by them apart from the knowledge or unknown past of said celebrity and their ancestors.
When i look at the top & see all the succesful people.. there is NO mexicans 😩I review weed products on my RU-vid channel .. tryna make it out the hood man💯💯💯
Not a new concept. Drew Barrymore =The Barrymore dynasty Robert Downey Jr= both parents were actors Angelina Jolie= Jon Voight Tony Goldwyn= MGM studios/Paramount Jamie Lee Curtis= Tony Curtis/ Janet Leigh Ben Stiller= Jerry Stiller Whitney Houston= Dionne Warwick/Aretha Franklin/Cissy Houston Honestly the list goes on and on. The point is, it doesn’t mean those who benefit aren’t talented
I honestly think it's more cons than pros regardless of a said person having "talent." It creates gatekeeping as well when it's only the ~exculisve related familys~ rather than you know...someone whose parents aren't in the industry. I work in film and it's just so much hard to work with directors who have NEVER worked as a PA or "below the line" they have absolutely no concept of how a set is run why 17 hour days is wrong and expect the crew to make a drop at the hat changes because they literally have never worked below to understand their ask is wrong/ridicules. I totally get that there are people who have worked from the bottom and act this exact way too, don't get me wrong but honestly...more often than not directors/talent/producers who have never really worked their entire life are much hard (in my experience) to work with than those who didn't come from nepotism. I mean like for example Sam Levinson, his sets were hitting 17 norms which is, unfortunately, the norm for some sets but he also has ZERO concepts of what it's like to be crew for those 17 hours. His dad is a producer, his first job was as an actor then director/writer. He has no concept how what he is putting his crew through and that's where nepotism is a problem.
I love how clips of Timothee Chalamet come up whenever you’re talking about ‘exceptional talent’ outside of familial relations! We stan a channel that recognises genuine TALENT 😍😍😍😍
But that begs the question whether or not people like Chalamet really is an exceptional talent or, like any other heralded actor, is their career is more planned than not. It also should make us question is tv/film acting really a skill worth admiring.
@@themelanatednomad6989 Those are different than blood connections securing that one role that sets you up for a career. What you listed is what every Average Joe is required to give when applying for a job.
Shotout to Rashida Jones. Shes so talented, charismatic and beautiful. I didnt realize until years after watching the office and parks and rec that she was QUINCEY JONES and PEGGY LIPTON's (she even dated fucking paul mccartney) daughter (though once i learned this, she has the same lovely smile as her mother who had me in love watching twin peaks), i was wondering if you would mention her somewhere. Also as im not from usa i sometimes have weird about your race and ethnic concepts, so i expected commentary about how her most important characters were always depicted as "italian" and/or "exotic" when we al know his father is black and his mother is white/jewish. Like she's really used or even exploded in her race "ambiguity" and thats not common from someone whose parents were (are) as famous, and i dont get if its some kind of internal joke(?) among usa people or it was just intended as a parody
Did you ever read about how Denzel Washington’s son, John David, said how he used to lie about who his father was? What’s your opinion on that and how it plays into this whole theme?
I don’t believe him. Wouldn’t he have grown up encountering casting directors because of his parents? Would he not have met producers? Face to face time with people industry didn’t give him an advantage? I don’t know why they make up these stories. Even if they are true, he’s telling us no one knew him. Nahhhh
@@sibongiseni5993 Actually a lot of actors don’t have their children around what they’re doing. It’s very similar to how some celebrities are photographed all the time and others are not because it’s a publicist situation. It’s not that hard to not have your life connected as a celebrity as it’s made to seem.
Nicolas Cage did the same thing. He’s a Coppola. But people in Hollywood knew bc he grew up in Hollywood. It’s a little more believable for Denzel’s son bc he kept him from Hollywood.
I Love Mariska Hargitay Her Mom Is Jayne Mansfield From old Hollywood (She Plays Olivia On Law & Order SVU) Not Many People Know That Since It's A Huge Generation Gap
Beyoncé and Marvin Gaye aren’t related. He had a child with the mother of her step sister, Bianca Lawson. Bianca Lawson is the daughter of Beyoncé’s mother’s (Tina Lawson) husband
Jamie lee Curtis is a case of nepotism but her self built her fame and worked and is still working. She's a really great actress that acknowledges her nepotism.
Success is when talent meets opportunity. The ordinary person would have a more difficult time finding that opportunity. Nepotism babies might have talent (or not in some cases) but they have all the opportunities.
honestly, i just don’t even think about the concept anymore. and yeah, i definitely discount the accomplishments of nepotism babies. i find them far less impressive, maude and zoe included, than people who came up from nothing. so what? they’re gonna be okay lol! i’m coming from nothing and i know i’m gonna make it. claim it for yourself as well yall!! all we can do is 1) work extremely hard and be committed to our craft and 2) NOT beat ourselves up for not being in a certain place in our careers that we’d like and 3) self compassion
Yes!!! For some black celebrities didn't want to be known or acknowledge that they have famous relatives like Saweetie being related to Gabrielle Union or in some cases we as fans have to find out years later that they're related like Snoop Dogg, Brandy, and Ray J is related to popular WWE superstar Sasha Banks. When black celebrities do acknowledge as soon as they step foot on the scene into the entertainment industry they instantly get judged and speculated to have an extra push in their respective lanes.
All nepotism babies are bad, because they will always hold a spot from someone who doesn't have the connections. But even if it was me I would make use of those connections, that's life. It's the ones that don't acknowledge the fact that they are who are the problem.
In entertainment, arts, & most major media, the roles do not always go the nost talented. They go to the most popular. So I hate that actors that are only so-so get a role over an amazing unknown actor simply bc their parents helped catapult them to stardom & now theyre a 🌟 😑 we're never gonna get as much interesting fashion, art, or music again until we even the playing field
Beyoncé is only related to marvin gaye by marriage. Tina’s husband, Richard Lawson, has a daughter ( Bianca Lawson) by marvin gaye’s baby mama (Denise Gordy) 😭 thats a whole other story 😂
I personally think it's weird and the industry is rigged but I think nepotism is very unfair in a certain matter but I feel as though if you don’t know a certain person that is famous or if you are talented it wouldn’t really matter. I feel bad for all of the people who have to try hard and still get cut short and Idk it shouldn’t be such a normal thing in life but I’m glad it is being talked about more
If you want to talk about bad nepobabies, the Hadid sisters are a prime example. Those girls learned how to model walk as they were getting some of the biggest checks from the biggest brands. They're better at it now but especially Bella regularly got dragged for having a terrible walk
To be honest, I don't mind nepotism if the nepotism babies are genuinely talented at what they do, acknowledge the impact of their powerful and wealthy family or if they use their money and influence positively. But, I HATE those who are mediocre, deny their privileges and pretend to have started from the rock bottom and struggled really hard to get where they are... in order to appear as "relatable" while their name, their connections and their financial resources alone made the difference. Because nowadays... it's just rich people competing against other rich people in these industries (entertainment, fashion, art, sport, politics...).
I don’t think Beyoncé and Marvin are related. Tina (Beyoncé’s mom) married Richard Lawson who’s daughter is Bianca Lawson’s mother was dating or married to Marvin.
Not quite. Nepotism is present in many industries but the more subjective an industry is, moving away from results and hard numbers, the more nepotism there is. Hollywood (film, tv) and politics are rife with nepotism. Not surprising each relies on narratives and images. You can still be a very mediocre politician and be a lifer at it.
It just irritates me when you have people like Kim Kardashian out here speaking on women, saying that women don’t want to work. It was much easier for you to get your opportunities. I’m not saying that Kim Kardashian does not work because she does, but don’t act like there aren’t people out here spend the majority of their livelihood working to make ends meet.
Beyoncés mom re-married Richard Lawson in 2015 who is the half brother of Marvin Gaye. Unless you are trying to insinuate Beyoncés career did not start until 2015 she is not a nepo baby.
Ya should see this clip of Maude Apatow from one of the movies her Dad produced/directed and her Mom starred in it (This is 40) I believe this was her 1st emotional scene and her parents were so encouraging. You can see how passionate she is about the craft of acting, and her parents themselves being in the industry, how supportive they are, in a healthy loving way. I can appreciate a nepotism baby/child/adult when they acknowledge their last name and famous relatives, and are humble enough to admit that if it wasn’t for that relevancy they’ll have to work 10x harder than regular folks to get the career advancements or opportunities they got. It’s why I can’t stand the Kardashians and Jenners women, they literally live in their own bubble of calabazas and believe that the majority of ppl have the same opportunities they did 🤦🏽♀️ “self made”
Damn near every celebrity in the music industry is a nepotism baby. Literally every celebrity that is famous has parents or relatives that are in the industry.
beyonce is nit a nepotism baby. marvin gaye is her great uncle by marriage. her mother tina married into that family in 2015 well after beyonce became famous
Lily rabe is an amazing actress I was shocked when I found out that she’s a nepo baby like she’s incredible but tbh I don’t mind nepotism as long as they don’t use their privilege for a some fucked up shit ,,Kardashian’s for a example,,
I honestly think nepotism wouldn't be a big problem in the entertainment industry for people if acting/directing/etc. in the capacity they do would be accessible to lower classes. But instead most people in Hollywood (+ NYC and London) that aren't nepo babies are coming from families well off enough to be a safety net for them or that are able to pay for their acting training. Like the part of that industry that is accessible through hard work is overcrowded with what's been labelled the class ceiling in the UK industry. Maybe 2-5% of big actors actually come from low income backgrounds (but usually also from geographic areas that are close to important industry places). If you're rich you can go to all the events and make connections. If you're low income you need either luck w connections or luck w castings. The fact that industry even exists is crazy, if you think about the fact that 98% of actors can't live from acting.
In the Philippines, nepotism is very big in the entertainment industry but also in politics! They use that connection to promote the hell out of themselves when running for office.
Man, I hate how Sofia Coppola and Scott Eastwood are where they are because of their parents. Neither of them are talented, yet they're praised because of their connection. It's not talent when people just think of you due to what got you here.
Beyoncé isn't directly related to Marvin Gaye, it's through her step-sister Bianca Lawson (another potential nepotism baby). Bey's dad was, however, the first black regional manager for Xerox.
I love how people are acting like nepotism is "rising" as if it's happening more. So many celebrities from previous generations got to where they are due to nepotism. It's more like there's a rise of people finally talking about nepotism. It's been around for a very long time. I think that as long as these people prove that they deserve that fame they've got and are truly talented and hard-working, I'm okay with it. I take issue to nepotism babies who are famous just for being rich, like Paris Hilton and all of the Kardashian/Jenner sisters. The ones that don't really do anything of value (like singing, acting, doing comedy, etc.) but are still so famous that they get invited to the Met Gala simply by existing or have their own TV shows based on themselves. It's worse when they say tone deaf crap like, "People just don't want to work these days!" Or criticise ordinary people.
I really love this video! In general I think if you are afforded with a certain level of privilege - you have somewhat of a responsibility to hold the door open for others…and to do so authentically and if you can do it anonymously (cause performative philanthropy is so real) - even better 👏🏾 It’s not mandatory but I think it’s necessary to close the gaps that unfortunately still exist across all industries 👎🏾
Omg glad to see a video from you that’s not about Euphoria. I love your video quality and you are very charming and likeable but I’m tired of watching a show I don’t like jsut to be able to watch your videos lol. Also I always debate this topic with friends. Like we’re not saying these celebrities don’t work they clearly do but they can’t be out here claiming they had the same stakes as someone who had nothing and had to eat plain bread every day while working on their business. Kylie already had an audience that was programmed to do everything she did so all she had to do was pay a company to make a product for her and sell it to those fans. It’s unfair of them to say that they’re “self made” when they already had millions that they were able to turn into a billion.
I think people are missing the point... It's not about how talented you are it's how you got there how it's unfair to the people on the outside .... If this Hollywood bubble was broken and everyone had equal opportunity then I wouldn't care ... Social media opened up a floodgate of celebrity kids who are big headed and love going on ego trips... They try to use their platforms to make us feel like we're part of their family that they care about us ... Social media is free advertising but I love that people are starting to wake up life should be fair ... At the end of the day you're accomplishments are still yours but let's give everybody a fair chance...
I think it is naive to think that everyone else just got to their fame by working hard and being talented. Everyone famous was lucky at some point and had someone who "saw their potential" and took them under their wing. Of course its easier if these people are literally your parents but making it in the entertainment industry is always because of a little luck. There are way too many talented people in the world for you to just work hard and do your job and becoming successful and famous like that
i don’t think it’s necessarily bad it’s just society obviously if you have good connections you will be higher in life that’s why they tell you to make connections with your teachers in high school so you can get recommended for good colleges and so on it’s not like they chose to be born into famous rich parents and i’m sure most of us would take advantage of our positions if we were born in a rich famous family and use our resources and connections to get ahead i mean who wouldn’t but obviously the problem is when they claim to be “self-made” or don’t acknowledge that they had a head start to begin with and think it’s our faults that we’re not like them (cough cough kim) when we don’t have near as much resources that they do
Kristen Stewart - parents are Hollywood people (producers) Dakota Johnson - parents are famous actors Daisy Edgar-Jones - father is tv producer (Big Brother UK) Allison Williams - father is prominent American news commentator and journalist Emma Roberts - comes from acting family (Julia Roberts - aunt, Eric Roberts - father) Lilly Collins - father is UK rock singer Sting Non of them actually really struggled with finding work as an actress; not one can be said to be a journeyman actor. Non have dedicated any portion of their life to stage work. What do they also have in common besides having blood connection to the industry? Some are more talented than others in the acting department, but each one is relatively pretty. So blood connection plus cute face = decent agent = chance at a decent role.
Lily Collins dad is Phil Collins! But they look similar so I get the mistake. But yeah Dakota also had Antonio Banderas as her step dad along with her mom being Melanie Griffith and dad being Don Johnson!
Personally, I have a problem with direct nepotism where they're starring their own kids/nieces/nephews/wives/husbands/ect within their movies but if those people happen to get opportunities because they have famous family members then good for them! Lol
Richard Linklater cast his own daughter into the movie Boyhood..But mostly due to the fact that it was filmed over the course of 10 years, which is probably a bigger commitment for an actor
@@weeklyalexa257 i heard apocalypse now had an insane filming duration too. Not a good enough excuse for direct nepotism imo as most films and t.v. series traditionally take long periods of time for filming (even animation. The Simpsons for example)
I honestly think the only young nepotism baby that has talent is maya hawke like she went to Julliard to Master her craft. Another one is kaia Gerber I remember in a vogue interview she admitted that it was easier for her to get into this industry because of her mum
The timing of this video coincides with Kim’s latest variety interview. The notion of “work” is so different when you come from a place of privilege! Great video
It’s always a wonder if the kids would choose this career path and if they dud would they be as popular or do as well. Just like the self made billionaire Kylie Jenner your not self made I’m sorry it is what is it, instead of not excepting where your privilege is. I’m a white women who people could call “ not ugly” lmao I feel awkward saying if I’m attractive it’s all relative, anyways I know where my privilege is being aware of that I think contributes.
Although I had literally no real work experience, I got a summer job that payed _really_ well at the company my father works at. My father had told me about it and pushed me to apply for it, and I had barely made the minimum effort. I feel like loads of people would put in a lot more work than I did, but that said, I did do everything and more than I was required to. Unfortunately, merit, perseverance and willpower is not the only thingthat counts in life, nepotism can play a huge role too.
I mean, what did you expect? We work hard and struggle so that our kids and grandchildren won’t. I get your point but honestly, who here will let their kid struggle with auditions whiles they can just make a call, and get their kid the job?
I mean but what parents who know they have resources won’t want to pass those resources off to their children? It’s literally in almost every sector of every society. It’s kinda how the world works. Connections.
i really feel like nepo babies can’t help being born from famous parents. yes, they have privileges and popularity because of their parents, but the least that they can do is acknowledge their nepotism.
I mean beyonce isn't actually a nepo baby, she's connected through her stepsister, from Tina's second marriage. Tina's stepdaughter Bianca, is the daughter of the niece of marvin. And her mom remarried way after beyonce became BEYONCE.
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For me Willow for example, is so individually talented really. I don’t really think about the Smiths when seeing her perform and sing really. And she’s like doing her own thing.
I don’t know how I feel about nepotism babies, on one hand it makes me sad as someone who wants to be famous and has no idea how to find connections or anything but on the other hand I LOVE the Apatow family and other nepotism babies and I want to be famous so that my future kids can be nepotism babies:) but it sucks that they take opportunity away from those who DONT have any connections within the world