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Nepo Babies are the symbol of our broken meritocracy 

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Nepo babies are everywhere in entertainment these days - from Maude Apatow to Dakota Johnson to Nicolas Cage, one of your favorite actors is probably related to the Hollywood elite. A nepotism baby is the child of wealthy, well-connected parents who are famous or highly successful in the entertainment industry, and the nepo baby experiences an expeditious ascent to fame, wealth, and success - at least in part thanks to their family’s connections and status. For some, the nepo baby is an opulent fantasy; for others, discovering another nepo baby feels like more proof that America’s meritocracy is broken. So what do these stars really say about inequality in entertainment, and in America more broadly?
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00:00 Why we're shocked to discover an actor is a nepo baby
01:25 So how do nepo babies get in the door?
04:56 The dark side of nepo baby backlash
07:44 Which nepo babies really deserve their success?
10:06 How nepo babies are doing good by the world

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@jamesgomez9151
@jamesgomez9151 Год назад
I just don't like when people that come from excessive privilege try to lecture everyone else on how to overcome hardships and hard work.
@lstarsabb
@lstarsabb Год назад
Right Kim K " Get up and work" comment will always get me heated
@aelinorholloway3669
@aelinorholloway3669 Год назад
@@lstarsabb ughh, that comment pisses me off, I've had to fight tooth and nail for the successes I've had in my life. But people like her just write me off, because I'm on welfare and I have an invisible disability, so I must be lazy and work shy.🙄
@patriciazandilencube4597
@patriciazandilencube4597 Год назад
That's one of my biggest pet peeves. How dare you, with your ready-made success starter-kit lecture people who come from zero wealth, zero contacts, zero opportunities, few positive mentors and little social support, tell them that they aren't working hard enough? TFOH!
@danielledocherty2058
@danielledocherty2058 Год назад
What annoys me about that comment is not just the irony of the fact they use people up and spit them out once they aren't doing the utmost being a slave to them but when they think that just work makes it. Tell that to their cleaners cover 14 hours days 5/6 days a week. Just because you work hard and long hour does not mean you will be rolling in it. For all of us we need connection and a shit load of luck to make it happen for us so kim k can suck my big toe
@tastegeorgia674
@tastegeorgia674 Год назад
Like the Kardashians
@coreysmith733
@coreysmith733 Год назад
Nepotism Babies love to say their parents got them in the room, but their "talent" kept them there. Getting in the room is THE point. Everyone struggling wants to be in THE ROOM.
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
Yet they can't name a time they lost out to someone who wasn't a nepo baby like them. There are no non nepo babies in their world, and they don't think that's odd. They don't even notice
@jeremyud
@jeremyud Год назад
I'm pretty sure Emma Roberts mentioned losing out to Jennifer Lawrence for the Hunger Games.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
@@lateralhistory of course - when all their friends from their expensive private academy also have celebrity parents, they think it’s totally normal. Maybe some of them rationalise it by thinking about how eg the Brunels were master engineers for generations, and think “so long as I do some good work it’s totally fine”.
@wetnesday
@wetnesday Год назад
@@jeremyud that's because jennifer lawrence was still connected with harvey weinstein at that time lol
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Год назад
I mean how much if their talent is really theirs.. privileged education, private lessons and master classes from your relatives must account for building up that talent as well ..plus knowing how to play the social game and having the contacts at your disposal. Them saying their talent kept them wherever, show how out of touch these people really are. I mean it's call working💀
@StevieDecks
@StevieDecks Год назад
Lena Dunham and Kim Kardashian were the most annoying ones. It’s not just denying nepotism helped them, but the defensiveness and outright snarky remarks about it. Kim K telling people to “get off your ass and work” is an insult to everyone who doesn’t have the same privileges she has.
@Overseer2579
@Overseer2579 Год назад
Yeah, exactly. And that’s INSANELY ironic coming from Kim Kardashian, who hasn’t worked to earn ANYTHING that she has
@RedHeadThriller10
@RedHeadThriller10 Год назад
To be fair for Kim she did you know work and she did work for under his sister too and that was Paris Hilton and then she used to organize like closets and so so I still make that as a real job.
@drimms8060
@drimms8060 Год назад
@@RedHeadThriller10 you couldn't miss the point more
@biancalizardo2544
@biancalizardo2544 Год назад
@@RedHeadThriller10 i don't know if you are aware that Kim Kardashian comes from a very wealthy celebrity family. Her father a high profile lawyer( lived in same neighborhoods n befriend celebrities in L.A) , her stepfather (Bruce/Caitlin Jenner) an olympian, considered one of the best athlete's Ever. Meaning she's already running in very different circles, just bc she was trying the closet stylist at first trying to find what she was going to do, she had many doors opened for her. N the hardest working person there it's her mom.
@merry_christmas
@merry_christmas Год назад
I'm not easily offended but that comment will keep pissing me off until my dying day. Imagine you're so distanced from society that you're deaf to the thousands of us working multiple jobs day and night just to survive. Working hard is perhaps the least decisive factor in achieving success. The fact that she genuinely thinks "putting in a little effort" is enough says everything about the people she's surrounded herself with.
@Lee-qf9dz
@Lee-qf9dz Год назад
The Kardashian children pretending like they built themselves up from the ground is the joke of the century.
@kittykatz4001
@kittykatz4001 Год назад
The ppl who support the Kardashian/Jenners and made them wealthy and keep them relevant are worse than they are…😮
@dhsf5937
@dhsf5937 11 месяцев назад
They actually built,Kim K wasn't a billionare or was born famous.
@M.A.C.01
@M.A.C.01 10 месяцев назад
@@dhsf5937yeah through scandal and drama
@lisacu134t6y
@lisacu134t6y 6 месяцев назад
​@@dhsf5937 they should thank there dad for that if it wasnt for him we wouldnt know this people kim k dad was oj simpson lawyer
@sarahroddey2937
@sarahroddey2937 Год назад
My big issue with nepo babies really is just when they try to deny that it helped their careers at all because that denial continues to peddle the idea that anyone can make it in Hollywood if they work hard enough and a lot of people throw away their whole lives trying to get their big break. I wish nepo babies would just be open and honest like Jamie Lee Curtis.
@herefortheshrimp1469
@herefortheshrimp1469 Год назад
It reminds me of those huge weightlifters who take steroids going on social media and telling their following that they can achieve the same body by just working hard and eating - then those ppl get body dysmorphia because they cant do it no matter the work! Telling ppl that they can definitely achieve something you got mainly because of HUGE help is harmful!
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
My big issue is that they're not a rarity. A few, we could all stomach. They're EVERYWHERE now, in a way that wasn't true even 20 or 30 years ago. Meritocracy is so utterly dead there is no alternative to root for. Every nepo baby who doesn't see the problem should be put on the spot to name ten non nepo babies succeeding right now in their industry. 10 people who got where they are without mommy and daddy's help. And not someone who came up in a different time, like Mary J Blige or Eminem. A peer. Even the "humble" and "talented" nepos couldn't do it. And that's the issue that makes me less inclined to cut any of them any slack.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
@@lateralhistory honestly, I’m sure there’s others, but the only counter-example I can think of is Jon Hamm. And that’s baaad. The way his story gets talked-about, that no one would know about him if he hasn’t landed the role in his final weeks of trying, just makes me wonder how many other actors have been passed-up for someone with more “name recognition”.
@madinp1177
@madinp1177 Год назад
Exactly. What they don't realise is that the hardest part of "making it" in the industry is getting the audition. Those without connections literally have to work about five times as hard just to get their foot in the door while the famous parent just held the same door wide open for their nepo baby.
@Overseer2579
@Overseer2579 Год назад
Right. Like, Jamie Lee Curtis might have been born to two VERY famous actors of her time, but she seems like she’s very humble and grateful for the privilege she had in forging her career
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 Год назад
But getting your foot in the door is the HARDEST part! People come to L.A. and spend YEARS trying to find a legit agent who can get them to real, PAYING auditions. That's not a small thing.
@ShailaBano
@ShailaBano Год назад
The introductions, the networks… all worth their weight in gold. No one talks about that because there isn’t a easy monetary value to assign to it, but it’s perhaps the most important
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 Год назад
@@ShailaBano It is SO important. It is true it won't get you hired, but if you can't get to legit auditions, WTH?
@Music_Lover0612
@Music_Lover0612 Год назад
I always found it a coincidence how movies have these huge auditions and the child who gets it is always related to someone famous.
@ShailaBano
@ShailaBano Год назад
@@Music_Lover0612 don’t even get me started on that. I’ve been in audition rooms where they literally read the names of their “top picks” to director on the phone while we sat in the room waiting to audition for that same part. All in the name of “look at is being fair and offering equal opportunities to everyone” We’re used to check a box so someone who’s a “family friend” can get the part
@Dianeediegoo
@Dianeediegoo Год назад
@@ShailaBano girl I work for a studio and the amount of crew who’s parents also worked in the industry is huge too. I happen to have a friend who got me in, by sheer luck. Even the unions have nepotism issues
@SSM654
@SSM654 Год назад
As someone who works in the film industry, I'm so against nepo babies. Hollywood is becoming even more of a gatekeeping community which is tragic because acting, directing, etc...is an art and there is legit talent out there that doesn't come from producers/actors kids that will and can be the next big thing the next talent to create such an amazing profession yet we fall back to nepo babies. I can't agree with it, regardless of there "talent" they are literally taking a spot away form someone who has worked for it way more than they can even imagine.
@free22
@free22 Год назад
Taking spots away. That’s exactly what they are doing.
@SSM654
@SSM654 Год назад
@@free22 Yup.
@fabsmaster5309
@fabsmaster5309 Год назад
Talent, whether it’s natural or the result of hard work, is what should matter most. If a nepo baby is truler more talented than someone who has worked harder, they should get the part because it makes for a better film. Of course, that is rarely the case. If you look at the NBA, which is more meritocratic, because a lack of talent will be quickly exposed a little under 2% of players have fathers or grandfathers who played in the league. So I imagine in a world where casting was based purely on talent, about 2% would be nepo babies.
@SSM654
@SSM654 Год назад
@@fabsmaster5309 I agree with the sports comments though acting/directing/ producing is so different. I think regardless of talent in the film world it just creates such a gatekeeping community.
@AmandaabnamA
@AmandaabnamA Год назад
A gatekeepering community or a cess pit.. How much films nowadaya quality bc ppl care and are passionate and how much is it going through the motions just for profit? They won't even allow new stories to be told but just remakes and bad copys like these nepo babies are. It's literally bleeding hollywood dry.
@nachoyoutube2732
@nachoyoutube2732 Год назад
The craziest thing is that most celebrities are "nepo babies". The most known ones are the children of great actors, but even the ones who are not from a 'dynasty' have a parent/relative that is connected to the industry in some way. It's very strange to see a real outsider triumph as a celebrity.
@gracevanhoomissen1971
@gracevanhoomissen1971 Год назад
THIS. Everyone's aware of the ones with relatives with name recognition but look up any random actor and they're probably related to a producer, cinematographer, set designer, or someone...
@nachoyoutube2732
@nachoyoutube2732 Год назад
@@gracevanhoomissen1971 this ☝🏻
@austinlarrimore6542
@austinlarrimore6542 Год назад
Well to be fair a lot of times children are more likely too pursue careers in things their parents did or similar to what their parents did
@sailorspills3025
@sailorspills3025 Год назад
And lots of them claim to “come from poverty” in order to get people to like them
@mariemeldron2984
@mariemeldron2984 Год назад
Roseanne and Bill Cosby did it.
@MsDiMera2
@MsDiMera2 Год назад
I have to agree on Jane Fonda she has always used her privilege to speak out where less connected people would be afraid to. She was ahead of her time on the Vietnam war, feminism , civil rights etc
@kahkah1986
@kahkah1986 Год назад
she could afford to be though. less well connected people have the fear of losing everything, so when they do speak it means more.
@meridoughten9425
@meridoughten9425 Год назад
@@kahkah1986 yeah.... and look at allllllllllll the other people who could "afford" to be outspoken on radical political issues and yet did nothing. Her activism is not worth LESS just because she's privledged. Some could even argue it could be valued MORE because Jane Fonda has every ability to tune out to all the unpleasantness of the world and enjoy all the best things in life money can buy her. But instead she's STILL a vocal political activist at 84.
@kahkah1986
@kahkah1986 Год назад
@@meridoughten9425 if you will lose your life or your career (not necessarily just a job) and you still speak out/ refuse to back down, that is more powerful, always, than someone who has nothing really to lose saying the same things. It isn't necessarily a criticism of what the person has said, just an observation on why they can say it. JF knows she has a more protected position when she makes controversial statements. Of course, as you say, not everyone in her position has made them, although arguably it is bc they actually don't agree with her, as members of the establishment they hold more establishment views, not that they couldn't be bothered to protest at all. See John Wayne for example, in comparison with Marlon Brando.
@TheSkyHazCloudz
@TheSkyHazCloudz Год назад
@@kahkah1986 Yes, absolutely! But many who could also afford to did not, and wouldn't you agree that those who are able, ought to? So I don't understand why you've framed this as a detraction.
@TheSkyHazCloudz
@TheSkyHazCloudz Год назад
@@kahkah1986 Just saw this reply after my initial comment; MANY celebrities who had the security to speak up and agreed with a given issue haven't. Taylor Swift was famous for saying nothing about every single social issue for the first 10 years of her career, even though we now know she has progressive views. You can't just speculate that a valid counterargument to your point probably doesn't actually exist because that would be inconvenient, dude.
@mauve9266
@mauve9266 Год назад
I assume for a lot of people the big problem comes when they don’t acknowledge their privilege or if they’re talentless. Like you can excuse a talented cognisant nepo baby cos fair enough but the ones who either are lacking in talent or are convinced they somehow made it on their own… It’s usually them I’ve seen people take issue with. I think most people would admit if they had a famous well connected dad they’d be milking the hell out of that cow
@fadethechannel
@fadethechannel Год назад
But the thing about entertainment is, you can’t fake talent forever. In fact, their aren’t many families in the business compared to the number of of famous, well known actors/actresses.
@tobiaslawrence8928
@tobiaslawrence8928 Год назад
I know if be milking it
@karinareis64
@karinareis64 Год назад
That’s always been my biggest issue. I don’t care if they come from privilege as long as they know and understand how this made their career easier. There’s no shame in that.
@meridoughten9425
@meridoughten9425 Год назад
yeah... i have to admit the person who always comes to mind for me is Dakota Johnson. When I watched her on screen, it was like "who hired this actress?? Oh, her parents are both famous actors, makes sense now..." lol. I don't even think we KNOW most nepo babies unless either they mention it themselves or they are so bad at their job that it raises suspicion 😆 lol
@4TheRightJAYZUSIsAVirtueSignal
The funny thing is that people will hate This and call put what you're talking about but be deluded enough to think white/male/straight privilege doesn't exist/is impossible. 🤣
@Kereru
@Kereru Год назад
If I'm being brutally honest, when I first saw Maude Apatow in film I had no idea who she was but I do remember wondering how this nice, but normal looking, averagely talented actress managed to stand out from the crowd to snag such a big role. This is how I feel about most nepo babies. Some are genuinely exceptional, but the vast majority are given a pass for just being ordinarily good at their jobs, in way that just wouldn't cut it for normal people going after the same thing. They don't just get the door opened for them, they get to play by an easier set of rules and we should be speaking out about that.
@glamglam8347
@glamglam8347 Год назад
not to mention a director would rather chose "the girls whos mom is famous" over sally who worked at a fast food place, spent years saving up for acting school, and finally got to an audition. the industry is turning into "it about who you know"
@1MegArbo
@1MegArbo Год назад
Maude Apatow is the least of my nepo kids worries. Have you SEEN Dakota Johnson? She can't act her way out of a wet paper bag.
@FuzzyKittenBoots
@FuzzyKittenBoots Год назад
Yes, they are allowed to be average or, in some cases, downright awful. Just look at Cara Delevingne. She is absolutely beautiful but in a 2012-2014 trend way and in no way is she a classic beauty. She also has no acting talent and still, despite that, she is given more chances than any actress who didn't have a wealthy father and nobility on both sides of the family could dream of.
@FuzzyKittenBoots
@FuzzyKittenBoots Год назад
@@1MegArbo I didn't know that but know it makes sense that she had no problem standing up to Ellen. I always wondered about that considering Johnson wasn't that big of a star yet at the time.
@muffinator1239
@muffinator1239 Год назад
@@1MegArbo Dakota is genuinely good. She just gets bad roles.
@simonnadja2804
@simonnadja2804 Год назад
Being French, I used to admire (and, I admit, be a bit proud of) Lea Seydoux. At such a young age, what a career ! She was even a James Bond girl. Then, I learnt that she was from two of the richest French families, grand-daughter of the CEO of Pathe (a French leading company in cinema), linked to several celebrities and businessmen/women. And I was like "oh...of course".
@heyidaroo
@heyidaroo Год назад
I think back to how most of the top 10 students in my public high school, after graduating college in 2009 (some of them 2008) immediately were clearing 6 figure salaries working for big social media companies as engineers during the big social media & technology boom of the 2000s… all of them in high school had computers and technology NO ONE else could afford. This gave them the time and resources to hone their technological skills, which gave them a leg up in getting into elite colleges, and were able to get very high paying jobs in Silicone Valley. Money buys success in more ways than we realize.
@fadethechannel
@fadethechannel Год назад
Computers weren’t pricey in 2009 😂 you could’ve gotten one from a pawn shop. And what tech did they have? Lol
@heyidaroo
@heyidaroo Год назад
@@fadethechannel I’m talking $2500 MacBook Pros AND iMac and access to coding and engineering lessons. We’re also talking high school from 2001-2005 (pre IPad, iPhone, and social media) Also I don’t personally care. I do not enjoy tech work. I did office work for a while and it was suffocating for me. But there were many brilliant kids in my school who got left behind
@lmfao7224
@lmfao7224 Год назад
You're right. I was privileged enough as a child to be gifted a $1,400 iMac for Christmas when I was 11, which allowed me to learn how to code/programming from a young age. I'm 19 now and I'm making around $200k a year while still in college from coding. That simply would have not been possible had my parents not been able to afford not only the computer but all the other stuff I was afford. Money aside, even just having a supportive family that allowed me to explore my creativity and talents in a safe and comforting environment is why I am where I am now. I'm not trying to brag or anything, I'm not rich per say, but I could be in the near future and all of that is because I was privileged enough as a child to have money to be able to buy/afford opportunities. Part of the reason why I believe nobody is truly self made. You got help somewhere along the way and without that help you wouldn't be anywhere you are now.
@JamesDecker7
@JamesDecker7 Год назад
@@lmfao7224 just remember your starting opportunities and see what you can give back to your community / society and create a positive cycle! There should never be shame for those who stand on the shoulders of good fortune, only for those who then refuse to use that to ACTIVELY benefit the world.
@CM-pf1xc
@CM-pf1xc Год назад
Yep
@toneriggz
@toneriggz Год назад
Entertainment wise, it doesn’t bother me if they create great art. But knowing actual trust fund babies hasn’t always been pleasant. The entitlement and obliviousness is disturbing.
@thirstwithoutborders995
@thirstwithoutborders995 Год назад
Honestly, it doesn't matter as much if they are good at what they do, but I think this had led to people being such bad actors, musicians and producers. Most actors feed off something they have experienced, as do writers. If what everyone has experienced is very limited, like their privileged lifestyle, the acting becomes basic and robotic. And let's not talk about how scripts are chosen, because they only feel connected to a limited number of stories.
@wvu05
@wvu05 Год назад
I once knew someone in college who whined that his dad "only" made $250,000/year. Take a zero away, and my dad didn't make that until he was 48. Needless to say, we didn't get along.
@interestedobserver
@interestedobserver Год назад
Honestly, I found this video insulting. People get upset about nepo babies as they have been personally affected by them. It is nice that Jane Fonda advocates for important issues but the nepo baby who affects us more is Donald Trump
@wvu05
@wvu05 Год назад
@@interestedobserver It seemed like the video was going somewhere, and then it backed away at the last minute.
@NazriB
@NazriB Год назад
Lies again? Initials NB Your Father
@AstroMartine
@AstroMartine Год назад
Can I just say, this is a global issue..it's not just the U.S. I live in East Europe and I will never forget missing a great entry level job during my college years, after a summer traineeship, to the coordinating manager's niece. It was so disgusting that honestly it damaged my motivation for months, even years. We had a one month traineeship in telecommunications engineering(exactly my bachelor's degree), I had just graduated from my 2nd year, and at the end of one month, the 15 of us could take a test on what we learned, as well as do a presentation on what we learned-what we found most interesting, and there were 2 open positions for a part-time permanent job at the company(a big multinational). I actually did everything myself, and learned because I was genuinely interested, got the second highest score at the test, and maximum score for the presentation(both of which were in English). The first job went to the girl with the highest score, and the second they gave to this girl who had a much lower score at the test, and could barely speak at the presentation, without looking at her notes, and also seemed like she had memorized stuff without even understanding what she was saying, while I spoke freely and correctly answered all the questions the hiring committee had for me...I was basically sure the job would be mine, and even a lot of the other candidates told me my presentation was amazing and they would surely hire me..it wasn't until after this whole process was over that one of the other candidates told me that the girl who got the job was the niece of one of these women on the hiring committee, who was also a coordinating manager in that department..so yeah. My problem with this is that people attacking public individuals from a place of self-righteousness seems like a witch hunt for show, when the problem is endemic, and it's with the entire human race..that's why there is corruption and injustice everywhere, and also why societies don't function at their fullest potential. It's like Shakespeare said: "The world's a stage, and the actors are badly cast" - because the casting team is hiring from their own gene pool, instead of choosing the best person for the job.
@leilamaach5229
@leilamaach5229 Год назад
Yes!!! I hate how they portray that as an "American issue" when this is happening all over the world, and in countries with a lower budget for theater and film productions, which means it's even more difficult to get a job in the industry.
@veronikpavlova
@veronikpavlova Год назад
But they chose, didn’t they? They got girl with the highest points
@DesiCat789
@DesiCat789 Год назад
@@veronikpavlova It would have been outrage if they didn't select the girl with the highest score. But logically - the next spot goes to girl with second highest score + good presentation skills. That's the problem.
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Год назад
Quite true, American channels usually portray themselves as international, but rarely think outside of their own country.
@MsMinoula
@MsMinoula Год назад
@@leilamaach5229 But they are american, so they make a video about their country and probably most of their audience. The rest of us can watch and think of how it is similar or different where we are. As long as they are specific about which society they are talking about I'm cool
@kb_100
@kb_100 Год назад
I'm surprised Lily Collins escaped the crosshairs of this video. As the lead actress on Emily in Paris and daughter of singer Phil Collins. And Jane Fonda is awesome in her own right despite being a nepo baby.
@tosinakin2508
@tosinakin2508 Год назад
@James G You missed a large part of the video, didn't you?
@skyward7903
@skyward7903 Год назад
@James G you missed the point by a hemisphere dude
@skyward7903
@skyward7903 Год назад
She's still in the industry and popular and her series had gotten Emmy noms despite everything being shit. Surprised she wasn't mentioned. But then again, most of the industry is sadly nepo kids, would take too much time naming them all lmao
@edithputhy4948
@edithputhy4948 Год назад
@James G how can you miss the point so badly? being Phil fucking collins daughter almost makes her a celebrity by default, he doesn't have to pull strings for that
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Год назад
I love that in the face of inequality the message is adjust your expectations. Almost like, know your place.
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
And wait for one of the "good" rich people to throw you a bone
@whittenaw
@whittenaw Год назад
Yeah that ending tanked
@primeshrimp6130
@primeshrimp6130 Год назад
It is the sad reality
@3katfox
@3katfox Год назад
That ending was a cop out
@richteffekt
@richteffekt Год назад
Well, with the ongoing consolidation of wealth and the increasingly impermeable wall to a more public platform than that of a wealthier person - we all best get to love our station in life. It's going to be the place where we, our children and their children will spend their lives.
@lookhowshegobbledthat
@lookhowshegobbledthat Год назад
People only hate nepo babies who are 1) mediocre and 2) deny it helped them. If you are talented, are considered the epitome of eurocentric beauty, admit your privileges and/or do philanthropic stuff... then people are fine with it. Very surprising Angelina Jolie isn't mentioned. 👀
@historylover9999
@historylover9999 Год назад
Yup!
@erikeriks
@erikeriks Год назад
Don't speak for everybody, it goes a little deeper than that but I'm sure your 5 brain cells aren't able to comprehend that
@fromthehaven94
@fromthehaven94 Год назад
Jolie is her given middle name, I think.
@Overseer2579
@Overseer2579 Год назад
No, people are fine with it if those people acknowledge and are appreciative for the privilege they were born with, and if they’re not just telling people that anyone can make it if they work hard enough, which would be hilariously un-self-aware
@lookhowshegobbledthat
@lookhowshegobbledthat Год назад
@@Overseer2579 Like I said, people hate nepo babies 2) who deny their privilege. Plenty of nepo babies who haven't admitted or denied it and people still like them, that's why I mentioned the other things. We like to pick and choose at the end of the day though. Wokeness is merely a performance for most.
@Feliciatanktop
@Feliciatanktop Год назад
I love how they mentioned George Bush Jr, who literally became president for 2 terms only cause his dad was president. A lot of our leaders and politicians are nepo babies
@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516
Trump is just a baby
@rosatejeda9763
@rosatejeda9763 Год назад
The irony of Woody Allen’s son doing an investigation on Harvey Weinstein 😭
@jacquelinelugo5518
@jacquelinelugo5518 Год назад
He also has called out Woody as well. Which I love, he saw what his dad did to his sister and mom. Especially how the media tried to make his mom the villain when she went up against Woody. He took that and said I'm going to ruin these privilege old bastards in Hollywood. He is an amazing journalist and I wish more journalist had the safety net he does to call out the creeps in Hollywood.
@oiification
@oiification Год назад
and truly he is Sinatras son
@RealTalkWithSSG
@RealTalkWithSSG Год назад
@@oiification IKR, he looks so much like him!
@frodo322
@frodo322 Год назад
Woody never molested his daughter. It was all a plan of his partner trying to get back at him for having left her for her adopted daughter. Stop believing the BS. Sadly Ronan is on his mother’s side.
@frodo322
@frodo322 Год назад
@@oiification if he really it’s f***** up of her to say that only to try to distance her son from Woody and go on the attack again. Even the Sinatra family denied this. She only said it when it was convenient for her to do so. Crazy woman.
@katieshiner
@katieshiner Год назад
so glad you picked this topic. I've been noticing nepotism all around, not just in entertainment. Glad to have a discussion about it!
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Год назад
Nepotism is everywhere and is a fact of life whether its in business, show business or politics. However it is still more meritocratic than your regular cushy office job. Because while nepo babies can use their parents' fame and connections to land huge roles that they are not deserving of. If they don't pull off a good performance, they won't be sought after as much in the future because in show business, a good performance is king.
@Aaron-kj8dv
@Aaron-kj8dv Год назад
Yeah people hate it in Hollywood because it's the easiest place to spot it, but we at least intuitively know its everywhere. Like in MI a congressman John Conyers had to resign for sexual harassment and the 2 people running for his seat? His son and his nephew. Pelosi too, grooming her daughter. That's without going into the business world and universities. People climb the ladder then push it over so no one else can then let their failure children reap the spoils.
@zitronentee
@zitronentee Год назад
That's the point of business relations and reviews. Having connection is always a big plus, regardless blood related or not.
@1MegArbo
@1MegArbo Год назад
I used to work for an MLB ball club. One guy had a long-running paid internship and EVERYONE figured he was going to FINALLY get hired fulltime. Then he wound up training one of the owners' sons. Guess who got the full time job? He sucked at it, too, but that is beside the point. The intern went on to work at another MLB club.
@nickbrown2113
@nickbrown2113 Год назад
I know this girl who graduated computer engineering by dating smart guys and making them do her assignments. She got a job right away because her dad knew someone. Her job responsibilities apparently were simple and easy to do, She was asking help from my friend who finished computer science. He was shocked that she did not know how to do something as simple as the job entailed and was telling me he is surprised she graduated without knowing how to do it.
@coffeeandpandulce
@coffeeandpandulce Год назад
Zoe Kazan said it (even though she tried to minimize it). Being a Nepo Baby opens doors for you. What they don’t understand is how hard it is for a person without connections to get their foot in the door. It’s the hardest part.
@Dauerglotzer123
@Dauerglotzer123 Год назад
And they don't acknowledge that they had a safety net of a rich family to come back to and financial support till they make their break or it doesn't work out. Most don't have that
@elwynbrooks
@elwynbrooks Год назад
It cracks open a door when most people don't even get to exist in the same zipcode
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
“It cracked open the door, a little bit, but I still had to work hard” like… yes honey, millions of extremely talented people work hard but get totally looked-over. Getting in the door is so underrated by people who are already there (and that’s true in absolutely any field). “It’s not what you know, it’s who you know” has always been true. Even outside of classic nepotism (benefitting family), tons of industries rely on a small circle of influential friends-of-friends-of-friends. The old boys club. There’s tons of names for it.
@thecivilianseries3267
@thecivilianseries3267 Год назад
I saw her in the recent The Last Movie Stars documentary by Ethan Hawke. She said she had not see any of Joanne Woodward's work. I was like, whaaattt?? These people don't even put the work in to acquire knowledge of their craft. Why was she even in the documentary?
@JohnSmith-qz1zp
@JohnSmith-qz1zp Год назад
She could never have had a career on her own.
@trashbasket11
@trashbasket11 Год назад
I get people being upset BUT it doesn't just happen in Hollywood. In my early twenties I worked at a McDonald's where all the managers from district down to shift were related and at the walmart I worked at three of the managers were besties with the store managers family. Humans always put their inner circle first and while sometimes it's undeserved it is not a special thing only for the elite of Hollywood.
@atomicx9158
@atomicx9158 Год назад
True. The first advice in looking for a job is leverage your contacts. There's no meritocracy there. It's just saying you should get to the first in line because you know somebody.
@glamglam8347
@glamglam8347 Год назад
youre comparing mcdonalds to the acting industy. the difference between those two is that there are plenty of people that can get a job in mcdonalds without the need of mom and dad (i did and i know plenty of others) but imagine if 99% of mcdonalds employees got in bc theyre related to the manager.every single store the employees were just lucky bc they are related to someone in mcdonalds. LETS NOT EVEN MENTION the fact that most fast food/retail places dont even allow relatives to work in the same place/shift
@shrav1012
@shrav1012 Год назад
That's why you need referrals and recommendations. 😅
@markigirl2757
@markigirl2757 Год назад
@@glamglam8347 not all businesses follow this tbh but I know McDonald’s not so much but in a way it’s still true. Every job I gotten I knew someone to get it
@increasedinfaith
@increasedinfaith Год назад
This happens in every industry what they don’t say is that the people who get oppurtunities handed over them over the people who are actually qualified never keep them long enough or live up to the person who gave them the opportunities (parents) legacy.
@catinthehat5968
@catinthehat5968 Год назад
The issue is that so many people who are talented but lack resources are looked over. Nepotism babies hate acknowledging that they were born on 3rd base and are speed racing towards home base. While other equally as talented people struggling to get past the dugout.
@pulkitgera8509
@pulkitgera8509 Год назад
Meanwhile Bollywood be like: Hold my beer
@Hari-bz1mh
@Hari-bz1mh Год назад
It's funny isn't it? The whole explosion that happened post Star's death is brewing in Hollywood too.
@cyn1clcynide
@cyn1clcynide Год назад
It's even more entrenched in the Telugu and Tamil film industries. You need to be associated to one of the families that control the business to make it big. Even the most tenous of connections to such family is enough to get your foot in the door. I find it darkly amusing that up and coming directors who have great ideas often end up casting the sons, daughters ,nephews and nieces from these families, and often they aren't good at acting either, which just ruins the final product. The truth is you aren't going to get the money to finance the film and convince the theatre owners if you don't have certain family names attached to the film.
@pulkitgera8509
@pulkitgera8509 Год назад
I remember the Kapoor family celebrating nepotism. Giving infinite chances to sara, jhanvi and ananya is simply a crime
@hammadamin5498
@hammadamin5498 Год назад
Oh lord don't get me started
@iekha_triples7718
@iekha_triples7718 Год назад
Not beer, but the whole tank of whiskey...
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Год назад
As I have mentioned it before, nepotism is not restricted to “My parents financed my first job.” but the fact that Social Capital exists. Privileged Intersections will have a leg up in every domain. Do not conflate economic capital and social capital.
@beatricerights
@beatricerights Год назад
Don't be offended but, I can tell you are extremely well educated. You write so well.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Год назад
@@beatricerights Thank you so much.
@NileshKumar-nr2vj
@NileshKumar-nr2vj Год назад
@Bystander232 "how things work" is actually what we keep in social cultural capital umbrella. In India even the actors people call self made or non nepo actors, are actually Upper caste Hindus. They constitute 15-20% population and has over 90% presentation in entertainment business. The reason those so called "outsiders" make it to bollywood Or entertainment business is because of social capital they have because of their caste. We need to make the playing field as equal as we can and try to remove hurdles in between and democratize the ground
@zetaforever4953
@zetaforever4953 Год назад
@@NileshKumar-nr2vj completely agree with you. But to be fair there are plenty of self-made muslim actors too.
@NileshKumar-nr2vj
@NileshKumar-nr2vj Год назад
@@zetaforever4953 do you see any low caste Muslims in India ? Any ? I know one Nawazuddin who is pasmanda. Else I don't know any.. Maybe Mehmood.. I am not sure
@secretlybees
@secretlybees Год назад
There's also the element of pretty privilege and nepo babies being able to afford more cosmetic enhancements. It starts as early as braces, making sure your kid's jaw is developing right and getting a good orthodontist, having access to dermatologists who will help with any skin conditions. They also get more expensive clothes that are tailored to them to fit perfectly. Being in fields where looks hold a whole lot of weight, this is a major leg up.
@hwang9756
@hwang9756 Год назад
never have I related to that more. my jaw is seriously messed up and I've never had braces to fix my teeth and let me tell you, the different treatment you get from people is real. pretty privilege is real
@secretlybees
@secretlybees Год назад
@@hwang9756 I feel for you. I've got jaw issues as well that COULD have been corrected and cause less pain. And yeah, I feel you on the different treatment. I'm overweight, and feel like my neck, chin, and jaw just look like one mass where heavier friends than me still have a defined lower face. I did get braces, but we were poor and couldn't afford an orthodontist that was actually decent. They changed my face shape and made TMJD /so/ bad I had to PRY my mouth open every morning. They were just focused on bringing my overbite in, not fixing the actual jaw issues, and doing it as cheaply as they could. And the whole office was pretty rude to us. This happened a lot with welfare healthcare, it really seemed like we got looked down on for being poor. If only /i/ could have been a nepo baby lol
@Lee-qf9dz
@Lee-qf9dz Год назад
In addition to that, they learn to take care of their looks from an early age because they're around many ppl who can guide them in self-care, such as hair, nails, skin, etc. Money also doesn't hold them back from trying a variety of expensive products that fit their needs. Meanwhile, those of us who are less privileged resort to RU-vid tutorials and drugstore products, which are not always the best options. Let's also not forget that being a child in an affluent family also means they probably get more time to focus on appearance. When you don't have to work 40+ hours a week just to survive, of course you'll have more time to do your makeup, pick your outfit, or go shopping. And when someone is struggling to survive, appearance is usually the first thing they give up.
@johannkuster79
@johannkuster79 Год назад
@@hwang9756 I understand you
@isabellajaimie
@isabellajaimie Год назад
I resent the fact that they used the word "naive" to describe people who were manipulated their entire lives into thinking that meritocracy existed in this country. As a child you're told that, and it's constantly stated throughout your life. If you question, you're lied to about it. That's not "being naive." That's ~being manipulated~ I'm fine with them if they are willing to admit it. But the whole "we work just as hard!" is ridiculous. They were born in the gate, the gate is gatekept by their parents. And getting your foot in the door is the hardest part. There are people I know who work two jobs and get trained, network, etc., do everything right and haven't gotten anywhere. Non-Nepo actors are expected to have consistent training which is pricey. Some of the nepotism kids don't even bother training and still get the role regardless. ( I work in this industry. MANY newer filmmakers are getting discouraged and disillusioned because there is NO upwards mobility and there are times where the exploitation of lower paid filmmaking jobs gets to be way too much for anybody to think it's worth it.) Another unfair part nobody mentions: Their parents are worth millions, they're set for life and could invest that money and do something else. But instead, they take jobs where they get paid $3k A DAY (it's probably more, that's just a general contract number) when there are more talented harder working actors out there struggling to even make rent. Yes, some are talented and care. Many aren't. So "Naive", at least I think, isn't the right word to describe people who were sold this dream and have been exploited with low pay and no upwards mobility. It's probably the same reason why we don't have nearly as much diversity in the industry as we could too. I love the Take videos. But this one got me to comment, and I don't usually do that. There's way more criticism that is deserved here, and with the platform The Take has, they should be using it to help. Not excuse it all away.
@natalies1624
@natalies1624 Год назад
facts i felt this video was like, nepotism babies arent the problem, you are
@free22
@free22 Год назад
They never discussed the consequences of nepotism in the entertainment industry. Not once did they mention what happens if most of the acting jobs are taken by nepo-babies.
@lesliewit
@lesliewit Год назад
Facts, and the results are a dwindling diversity of artistic works. I rarely go to the movies now except for the big fun blockbusters. Despite an ever-increasing and accessible platform of movies, television shows, there are fewer and fewer shows that I'm actually invested in watching because many of them are pretty much the same show dealing with the same subject matter. A lot of these Productions are quite obviously an outsider perspective on the lives of regular people and are missing that element of pain that exists for folks who are actually working hard everyday to survive. The person who's eating Ramen or oatmeal every day for a month so that they can make rent and pay bills is most definitely not getting their voice heard.
@mariemeldron2984
@mariemeldron2984 Год назад
Plus the American dream is a myth.Working hard won't get you shit.Period.
@mariemeldron2984
@mariemeldron2984 Год назад
@@lesliewit Yes we have rich,entitled ,clueless people writing our shows,movies and books.I don't want to read,watch that.
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 Год назад
For Centuries Children grew into the Business of their Parents, being Nurses or Plumbers or Griots or Hoteliers. Meritocracy has always been an Illusion to keep the Lower Middle Class quiet and docile.
@deviantmoore9744
@deviantmoore9744 Год назад
How is a cleaner using their connections to get their child a cleaning job any different from an actor using their connections to get their child an acting job? All classes actively participate in the nepotism game. The principle is exactly the same, but the prizes are different. In both scenarios, there's a third party who also applied for the job, who is most likely more qualified, who loses due to the established connections both parents have in their respective fields. Influence and power vary from class to class and job to job, but they're present in all.
@herefortheshrimp1469
@herefortheshrimp1469 Год назад
@@deviantmoore9744 There's big difference between people supporting and helping each other just to simply...have a job. Cause we live in a world where you'll die without one. But film and tv are not even close to a cleaning job. and the barrier for entry is completely different. Going from being uber rich to being uber rich AND famous AND lucky is just greed most of the time
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
@@deviantmoore9744 true
@deviantmoore9744
@deviantmoore9744 Год назад
@@herefortheshrimp1469 I never said that those two jobs were close. I said the nepotism in those two jobs share the same principle. By bringing up your points, you have just illustrated how nepotism among lower classes poses a more immediate detrimental threat. Which of these scenarios is more dire: A highly skilled actor losing out on a job because it was given to another based on their parent's connections, or a highly skilled cleaner losing out on a job because it was given to another based on their parent's connections? One of these is extremely selfish, but the other actually poses a threat to one's well-being. We're too transfixed on nepotism among the upper echelons that we neglect studying the lower classes that actively participate in it amongst themselves and are more affected by it. By focusing on lower classes and their practice of nepotism, we'll be getting to the source of the entire issue. Why do I say this? Because nepotism was bred in the lowest class. Look at all these uber successful and rich families and trace their lineage. Go back a few generations and you'll see that the family member that initiated their familial success was once dirt poor. A poor man/woman comes into great wealth and they elevate their family members beyond their merit. Their children elevate their children beyond their merit. Their children's children elevate their children beyond their merit. Nepotism starts in the lowest class. There's a lot of nuance to this topic. Structures the rich use to elevate themselves can only be dismantled by lower classes. We've all seen the class pyramid. If you want to dismantle nepotism at the top, you must dismantle it at the bottom, because that is where it is bred in its purest form. I say in its "purest" form because you're right, nepotism at that level is mostly about self-preservation and survival. However, that evolves. We have seen it time and time and time again. Quite frankly, I'm not that opposed to nepotism. However, I'm just saying, to all of you that want it eradicated amongst the rich, you're going to have to tell the lower classes to sacrifice that practice, too.
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
It's never been more of an illusion than it is now
@katiellyn
@katiellyn Год назад
I would like to see the percentage of successful performers from the last 20 years who didn’t grow up with parents making over $100k. There are a ton of resources you need access to to “make it” in the arts & it’s definitely the blatant denial of that that bothers so many of us. I have so much more respect for the people who admit that their family’s wealth/influence was an asset to them.
@katiellyn
@katiellyn Год назад
Just looking into it myself, I find more performers than not come from wealth/influence. I found a tendency for performers from poverty/tough backgrounds being framed as “troubled” or can’t handle the pressure of fame. I don’t think you can deny someone coming up without a background of wealth/influence is more likely to experience significant trauma trying to dig themselves out of that hole. I also have noticed they tend to be the people who have to do something controversial/crazy to become famous or get publicity.
@vanessac8193
@vanessac8193 Год назад
Mila Kunis comes to mind. And her parents seem amazing.
@katiellyn
@katiellyn Год назад
@@vanessac8193 That is another thing to be said. Parents in marginalized communities seem to work 100x harder to help their children grow their talents. Those communities tend to use their power to lift more people up around them. Another reason they deserve more representation. Those stories are some of the most inspiring.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
Nice name! I said this elsewhere already, but the only one I can think of is Jon Hamm. Even then he was comfortably middle-class, he just couldn’t afford to try doing acting any longer than however-many months he tried. He was cast only a few weeks before he was going to run out of money and go back to his regular life. So far he doesn’t have any kids to do a nepotism with.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Год назад
Jodie Comer was literally waiting tables while going to auditions before her breakout role in The White Princess, and then her star making role in Killing Eve.
@dvdv8197
@dvdv8197 Год назад
"The American dreams has never been real." Truer words have never been spoken on this channel.
@sgshumblecrumb6046
@sgshumblecrumb6046 Год назад
"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin.
@icatfishedyourdad2767
@icatfishedyourdad2767 Год назад
We have a similar problem in the U.K.- they’re not necessarily nepo babies in the most basic sense but if you look at the most accomplished/famous/award winning British actors and actresses- a lot of them come extremely wealthy and privileged backgrounds. Privately educated, related to politicians and members of the landed gentry etc- Rose Leslie who played Ygritte on GoT’s dad owns a literal castle. Phoebe Waller Bridge talked about having to move back home with her parents if she failed- what she forgot to mention is that “home” is a stately home. You can definitely argue that these people are talented but the difference between them and everyone else is that they have the means to go to auditions all day, to hire agents and acting coaches to hone their craft, to not have to worry about living costs and at the end of the day, having a good education as a back up. More needs to be done to help aspiring actors who shouldn’t have to choose between their part time job supporting themselves and going to an audition. There’s so much untapped potential out there.
@zetaforever4953
@zetaforever4953 Год назад
The same problem exists in India, only the nepotism is very real. The children of bollywood stars make their debuts in huge million-dollar projects while other actors have to spend years doing small indie movies that barely anyone watches. I don't think there's any country or any industry where people with privilege won't do everything in their power to pass that privilege on to their kids.
@ronburgundy3172
@ronburgundy3172 Год назад
Most famous british actors come from. Rich families they even got send to boarding schools and top notch arts schools.
@Ray_D_Tutto
@Ray_D_Tutto Год назад
Phoebe Waller Bridge's father was in the Panama papers and her show is entirely about a being posh white girl.
@Zain94336
@Zain94336 Год назад
It's funny you only mention the women and not the middle aged white men. Like benedict cumberpatch and tom hiddleston stop being selective clown and bring up white male elitist is well
@melyserenidad6527
@melyserenidad6527 7 месяцев назад
Well the UK is worse really as most of the wealthy and accomplished in any field come from some sort of gentry or nobility with *centuries* of privilege.
@dykevader01
@dykevader01 Год назад
If a small group makes a few nepo babies, that group gets bigger every generation and there's less and less space for people to get those opportunities. That's what's troubling. It's worse when untalented ones sit on a chair so more talented people don't have one.
@free22
@free22 Год назад
This.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Год назад
As Julie Andrews said in ‘The Princess Diaries 2’: “Nepotism lies in the Arts, not in plumbing.”
@kimberlyterasaki4843
@kimberlyterasaki4843 Год назад
I forgot about that line but that’s amazing
@kahkah1986
@kahkah1986 Год назад
there is a lot of nepotism in construction. If you were an artist, you might not know about it.
@joannejones363
@joannejones363 Год назад
@@kahkah1986 yea right
@kahkah1986
@kahkah1986 Год назад
@@joannejones363 you can tell nepotism in the arts bc artworks come with labels telling you who made them, and artists give interviews in the press. Your toilet isn't signed, you won't know who molded it or installed it in the same way as you would know who got hired in a tv show, but it doesn't mean there was a fair hiring process involved in producing it. That is the point of this video, isn't it? That society isn't actually like that very much?
@joannejones363
@joannejones363 Год назад
@@kahkah1986 at least to be a decent plumber you need to have the skills first only then can you get hired, but in the arts especially Hollywood nepo-babies are given multiple tries and can fail multiple times more than the average person and still be able to make a name for themself by the acquiring the skillset later.
@SuperDoggy99
@SuperDoggy99 Год назад
People never talk about the psychological benefits of being born rich or having famous parents. You're set for success because you have positive mental models very early in life, as well as the safety net, money, connections, etc. It's the intangible benefits that are most important.
@Lee-qf9dz
@Lee-qf9dz Год назад
YES! They also have the resources AND people who understand what they're going through when they struggle in the entertainment industry. No doubt that the brutality of the entertainment industry is rough on everyone, but nepo babies have the advantage of their parents having gone through similar situations and knowing how to navigate, or paying for a professional to help.
@mariecait
@mariecait Год назад
we should have talent agencies that only hires talent that doesn’t have “insider ties” .. create content without nepo babies.. it would give so many opportunities to show their talent and hard work! we don’t need hollywood to become famous anymore. we can create on our phones. anyone out there with big dreams don’t give up! keep making content and posting it!
@gracehess02
@gracehess02 Год назад
I don’t mind nepo babies if they’re honest how they got to where they were or if they really did work hard and not use their parents name
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Год назад
People shame nepotism but if we were all in that position we would all give special treatment to our friends and family
@KaioMichiru22
@KaioMichiru22 Год назад
Honest about what? So Maud Apattow should say “I’m talentless and my dad is famous” even tho she’s amazingly talented? F*ck off, that’s just pure envy.
@SlowDIIV
@SlowDIIV Год назад
@@madnessarcade7447 It's not just about that, the issue is more complex and goes beyond your generalizations about what people supposedly like to "shame".
@rozturner8110
@rozturner8110 Год назад
Me too, I respect Zoe Kazan's honesty about her audition experiences
@fadethechannel
@fadethechannel Год назад
There’s nothing wrong with using your parent’s name every now and then. Isn’t that why many people work hard? So their children can benefit? 🙄
@MD0K
@MD0K Год назад
I usually love their video essays, but this just rubbed me the wrong way. "Yeah it's systematic but at least some of our oppressors have their heart in the right place cheer up". yeesh what a toothless conclusion. Nepotism is a symptom of class privilege, and as such capitalism. No amount of stake "holder capitalism" will fix class divide. As self aware and talented as some of this people are, truth remains that we are community made. And the system allows some to hoard wealth, if your born on that community of 1%ers you're made for life. The rest of us are fucked. So yeah, didn't like this take
@caaaaats9890
@caaaaats9890 Год назад
I agree with you. I couldn't put into words the reason why, but this video felt very off as I was watching it - just this gross gut feeling about it. Also, I hate to be that person but I couldn't help but think in the last segment of the video where they talked about 'how nepotism babies are doing good by the world', that ofc it's easy to advocate for change in the world when your basic existence is not threatened. even if their careers took a hit because of their advocacy, they would still never have to worry about a job or money because of their connections, whereas the average person would. that's not to say that they shouldn't be doing these things, rather that, doing good by the world is the bare minimum nepo babies should be doing for society, as they have that power and so this shouldn't be shown as being an upside to nepo babies. There is no upside/good to nepo babies. Besides, the ones mentioned doing this good stuff, are the exceptions to the rule - most nepo babies don't give a hoot, and it would've been nice for the take to present this as it is.
@Larissa-eo3pt
@Larissa-eo3pt Год назад
Thank you. I hate the sugary, positive spin on a subject that is ONLY negative. Being a decent human being no matter the size of your sphere of influence is the bare minimum, folks. The rich and famous don't get a pass in discussions of equity just because they say nice things once in a while.
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
Yeah, that volte-face killed it for me too
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
@@Larissa-eo3pt Yep. I feel the same when people do the whole "I don't mind as long as they're TALENTED!" spiel so many have done in the comment section here. So what? They'd better be talented! They've had opportunities the rest of us can only dream of. The least they can do is put in a good performance.
@isabellajaimie
@isabellajaimie Год назад
100% agree with you. Their parents are worth millions yet it's totally okay that the kids take a job where its $3k a day (at least, I'm sure it's more because of their last names) when there's more diverse artists that struggle to get by. I'm sure there is an issue with diversity in Hollywood that stems from this type of corruption. The Hayes Code era creatives that have kids now making media? I find it really weird that they don't even bother mentioning how that can become a problem... after all, only certain people were let in back then, if they have kids working it too, the problem of wealth, entitlement and discrimination doesn't just disappear with time, it's literally born into the industry over and over again. Speaking "for the little people" isn't even the norm with majority of the nepokids. IDK why they decided to take two examples and excuse away dozens lmao.
@VeeLondon1449
@VeeLondon1449 Год назад
It’s just the phenomenal lack of transparency that I find annoying. When a person who has benefited from nepotism/access sets a narrative that they independently started their own career, when it’s obvious they used the network of people in show businesses that they clearly had access too, and they often gaslight us by saying due to nepotism they have had to work twice as hard! Like they are a victim of nepotism! How can that be! I just wish they could be honest about their start in the industry. “I come from a show business family. I had access and support” simple.
@infjelphabasupporter8416
@infjelphabasupporter8416 Год назад
I once met a real "nepo baby". I was 8 but I still remember. I was taking a walk in a forest with my parents and we walked in on a secluded place where a movie was being filmed. My mother was very charismatic and actually befriended them when they were on a break, to the point where they asked for our umbrella to help with some illumination difficulties. The movie being filmed had a boy my age as the protagonist, and his father, who was present, was the star of a famous TV show of the moment. He actually told my mom he was surprised we didn't recognize him. And the boy my age and I got along well, and I find extremely hilarious even now that he made a point of telling me many times that *"I wouldn't be here without my father"* *"You know why I'm here? Because of my father"* Another nepo baby I've seen is Dafne Keen. She studied at my high school (in Spain) before leaving it when the pandemic started. She was one grade above me and I never knew her but people said she was nice. Also- it's a weird school for screenwriter's children and such- so one of my friends has her entire family in the film business, since her grandmother played Reagan(?) from the Exorcist. I do find it kind of disturbing that while she doesn't have any particular talent she and everyone have just assumed she'll be a film director, since she has all the right connections.
@johannkuster79
@johannkuster79 Год назад
cool
@Laura-tv2dx
@Laura-tv2dx Год назад
"Also it's like, you know, maybe someone can get you one part, but they can't really get you 10 parts." She has no idea how much just one part would mean to some people.
@coffeeandpandulce
@coffeeandpandulce Год назад
Exactly! Getting that one part is extremely difficult for actors that have no connections.
@natalies1624
@natalies1624 Год назад
facts, and one part gives you the other 9
@seanmaddex4104
@seanmaddex4104 Год назад
I think the difference between entertainment nepobabies and the nepotism that bothers me is talent. The examples you have provided all had to work and show talent to build careers. Whereas Jared and ivanka were unqualified and incapable of the jobs the took. Also dislike the kardashions but that is more tied to their blindness to their own entitlement.
@lateralhistory
@lateralhistory Год назад
Talent needs to be fostered. People with more raw talent don't get the same opportunities to foster it as some average nepo baby with a rich dad. The average baby, with the best teachers, might become good, and frankly it's the least I'd expect from them. But imagine how good the person who was at their level of "good", as their starting point, could have gone on to become if they'd been given the same opportunities and invested in the same way. Imagine what the world is missing out on
@seanmaddex4104
@seanmaddex4104 Год назад
@@lateralhistory there is a difference from having an advantage/being priveleged and straight nepotism. while we would love true equality that is idealistic. while it is true that we are losing out on unfulfilled potential it is nowhere near as frustrating as unqualified people being given the opportunities.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Год назад
@@lateralhistory All things considered, nepotism is everywhere in every industry, business and politics. The difference between the spoiled children of a CEO and the spoiled children of Will Smith is that while an executive can get their kids a cushy office job, they can skate by, by doing the bare minimum or by doing little to no work at all and nobody will both them about their poor job performance. But for the offspring of somebody like Will Smith, while they no doubt have a leg up in showbiz courtesy of their megastar dad, and are afforded greater opportunities than your average Laguardia Acting School graduate. They still have to put in the work and knock everybody's socks off like any aspiring actor because unlike a cushy office job, their job performance is literally being shown to everyone in their screen projects.
@omolevincentia3447
@omolevincentia3447 Год назад
Yet your gas prices were low,there was no war in Ukraine and the us had a power base in Afghanistan,what has the so called meritocracy done for you
@melodramatic7904
@melodramatic7904 Год назад
@@seanmaddex4104 I think the point people are making is that nepotism got them those opportunities whereas most people spend their whole lives never getting a chance to get in the room. To me, it's still nepotism but less annoying than the other types you mentioned because at least these people do have talent and so eventually earn their spot. However, it's still true that there are a lot of talented people who will never get a chance because of them.
@jacobk6371
@jacobk6371 Год назад
The Take has become so “accommodating” and “understanding” it’s now elitist and asking its viewers to sympathize with byproducts of the meritocracy
@j.albuquerque9274
@j.albuquerque9274 Год назад
Y'know who is the opposite of it? Anthony Ramos, grew up in a working class neighborhood an din a single parent household, went to a regular high school and got a scholarship to study art performing. These are the stories we should champion.
@iwouldgiveyouthemoon_
@iwouldgiveyouthemoon_ Год назад
agree with all of this except for the fact that he cheated on his fiancée. it's is def irrelevant to the fact that he worked extremely hard to get where he is now, but it's just like... dude... you were doing so well and now 😭
@veronikpavlova
@veronikpavlova Год назад
Have no idea who is that
@j.albuquerque9274
@j.albuquerque9274 Год назад
@@veronikpavlova Star of the movie adaptation of "In the Heights". Also an original cast member of "Hamilton"
@veronikpavlova
@veronikpavlova Год назад
@@j.albuquerque9274 ah okay thanks
@barbaraniven5773
@barbaraniven5773 Год назад
@@iwouldgiveyouthemoon_ we don't know the inside information of their relationship!!! i'm not saying that cheating is justifiable but i don't think it makes someone irredeemable or a menace to society and I don't think it should take away from how hard he has had to work as a working class man of colour.
@MeMatu
@MeMatu Год назад
Marilyn Monroe was no nepo baby but a self made woman and she's still the Queen of our pop culture even 50 years after her death.
@sdarling6518
@sdarling6518 Год назад
There's no such thing as being self-made. All of us had help and all of us had harm to getting us where we are.
@Alejandro-oj7ud
@Alejandro-oj7ud Год назад
Sorry, but someone can explain me what is the thing with Marilyn Monroe? Yes, she was beautiful, and... so what??
@UltraViolet666
@UltraViolet666 Год назад
@@Alejandro-oj7ud did you not know she was an actress more than she was a model? Acting was the only career she wanted.
@Alejandro-oj7ud
@Alejandro-oj7ud Год назад
@@UltraViolet666 thank you for your answer. Anyway, I think most of the people praise her just because she was and stills a sex symbol, thing that I don't consider an achievement.
@UltraViolet666
@UltraViolet666 Год назад
@@Alejandro-oj7ud she definitely did not want that to be seen as her achievement! Marilyn fought hard to break out of that stereotype in her acting.
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 Год назад
I was under the impression that meritocracy doesn't actually exist.
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 Год назад
You are right.
@iwasbornunderwater
@iwasbornunderwater Год назад
Me too 🤷‍♀️
@MsDiMera2
@MsDiMera2 Год назад
Same
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 Год назад
it doesnt
@KP-zb1tr
@KP-zb1tr Год назад
Meritocracy is a myth. It’s all about privilege (whether that’s economic, gender, race, etc.).
@indy-fs6de
@indy-fs6de Год назад
I'm glad that Zoe Kazan acknowledges that nepotism played a role in her career, but I think she vastly underestimates how much it's played a role. She's somewhat talented and pleasant in her roles, but seriously a thousand other actresses can play her parts similarly or better.
@MariaLuisa-vv4ug
@MariaLuisa-vv4ug Год назад
I laughed when the video was like "oh poor them, having to put up with people continuously pointing out that privilege while they continue to benefit from it 😢" and that ending lmaoooo oh boy
@JulietteKernDiamond
@JulietteKernDiamond Год назад
I just dislike it in the modeling world. I do love the Hadids but in general I miss the models who got discovered at the mall. They were just more interesting to watch, and more beautiful imo!
@cogitorium1089
@cogitorium1089 Год назад
The Hadids, Kendall Jenner or Emily Ratajkowski have spent a lot of money to look the way they do (and now they're all just slightly different versions of the same face, but idc, if they're happy this way, good for them). Kate Moss or Naomi Campbell raised to the top because of their electrifying charisma, and that can't be bought.
@MsDiMera2
@MsDiMera2 Год назад
I dont think it would be possible in this day and age to see models the likes of Naomi , Kate Moss or Claudia . Mostly because modelling no longer caters as much to creating " supermodels". I've read that designers hated the supermodel era especially of the 90s when certain models would refuse to do certain runways if they didnt get the demanded fee. Its said they purposely set out to make sure there would never be models as costly as the supermodels of the past. Nowadays models without family support have to do a ton of catwalks and spreads just to get by .People like Kendall and the Hadids due to family wealth can pick and choose which projects to do which gives them a certain edge .But the others have to do anything and everything just to get by and end up overexposed .Its not like the old days when Naomi could declare she wouldnt get out of bed for less than a certain amount .
@JulietteKernDiamond
@JulietteKernDiamond Год назад
@@MsDiMera2 interesting! I think it's one of the other ones who had the bed comment, Evangelista maybe? But interesting info makes me sad but makes sense.
@frodo322
@frodo322 Год назад
@@MsDiMera2 I think the mentality has changed, they’ve discover that social media sells more and young people are the main consumers. Now diversity sells, so they’re not going for the perfect looks of the 90s, they’re even hiring overweight girls or girls who would look quite average without all the make up and lighting.
@eliza6971
@eliza6971 Год назад
I would love to be a nepo baby, but only if I could pick my parents. If it's Judd Apatow and Leslie Mann, sign me up, they seem lovely. If it's Drew Barrymore's parents, Mackenzie Phillip's parents, etc...absolutely tf not. I'm amazed those ladies made it out ALIVE.
@erischnimd
@erischnimd Год назад
Great point.
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura Год назад
Drew is a good actress . I’m not sure about Maude
@lstarsabb
@lstarsabb Год назад
@@Missmagazinebura Maude you can tell she's had acting classes, but she's not ready for the major league just yet. She's good at Lexi on Euphoria because she's basically playing a normal kid. So, in time I'm sure she will be able to prove she belongs.
@faerieliana
@faerieliana Год назад
What is wrong with Mackenzie Phillip's parents?
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura Год назад
@@faerieliana who’s that lol
@fantasticania
@fantasticania Год назад
I had a few arguments with my sister, whom nepo babies don't bother at all. she thinks if they are talented and made it, it's fair. my point is, that it is impossible to deny, no matter how talented they are, they only got a chance because of their connections, because of their famous parents. while all other aspiring actors, without family connections in show business never had that chance. and it is so unfair. and the truth is, most of those young people (nepo babies) would have never ever made it without the connections, ever. every culture and every country has them. sigh, and yikes.
@phunkylemonade9279
@phunkylemonade9279 Год назад
"It's a big club and you ain't in it." -George Carlin
@AmelieMews
@AmelieMews Год назад
Many of them end up in the main roles of big franchises, like Lily Collins with Shadow Hunters and Emily in Paris.
@johannkuster79
@johannkuster79 Год назад
did you leave the channel? where are the videos?
@Genedide
@Genedide Год назад
Meritocracy was never “broken.” In fact the whole concept was a satire & dystopia by sociologist Michael Young. Just like Fight Club, “Born in the USA” by Bruce Springsteen, and The Punisher, the right took it literally & uniroically and distanced their works from their satirical & critical origins .
@jelatinosa
@jelatinosa Год назад
Book straps
@CatrinaDaimonLee
@CatrinaDaimonLee Год назад
ty for the info. now someone needs to tell meritocratic and still nepo heavy singapore that...
@nonviablevenus9206
@nonviablevenus9206 Год назад
I have an issue with nepotism because there are countless talents that will never even get into the hallway, building, street or city let alone their foot in the door. It's elitism. Networks, money, zip code and genetic lottery play MAJOR roles. And they people pretend otherwise it irritates the duck out of me. I want to art and to see art created by more than just a minority wealthy and or powerful club of people. Appreciate the commentary on inequity and "the American dream," rhetoric.
@frodo322
@frodo322 Год назад
That’s never going to change though, and it’s in every industry. It’s just in entertainment they’re famous. I know plenty of people who got jobs because they knew somebody or their parents were friends with the boss/owner.
@bahiaayos1865
@bahiaayos1865 Год назад
Not only America. I went to high school with one of Netflix's "Elite"'s protagonists. Her mother was a chief writer for a top journal in Spain, and got her to feature in an extremely famous fashion magazine because of her connections.
@johannkuster79
@johannkuster79 Год назад
who ?
@mdmuzamil4783
@mdmuzamil4783 10 месяцев назад
​@@johannkuster79polo I think
@silver6735
@silver6735 Год назад
I think part of what makes people so mad about these nepo babies is that they have a leg up and better training in an area most people don’t think about when it comes to achieving success: networking. If people want to succeed in any industry, but especially entertainment, you have to be able to walk up to people and be genuinely interested in who they are and be able to get them to be genuinely interested in you. Something I learned from the woman who is helping me get my work off the ground is that people invest in people, not ideas. That’s part of why these nepo babies do well. People are invested them as individuals and are curious to see where they will go because of their heritage! You can make someone feel the same way about you! You can make them care about who you are! Make them want to watch what you do next! Then they might even want to help you. But you have to have the courage to walk up, say hello, and understand it may or may not work. Still, it never hurts to try. Goodluck out there my fellow artists! Thank you for coming to my TedTalk! Lol!
@Azoria_J
@Azoria_J Год назад
I think problem is that celebrities promote this hardworking, pursuing your dreams and it's a lie. Cause ordinary people have almost no chances to be famous and rich. You have to have a lot of money and connections to be successful or die trying.
@benkoeberle9510
@benkoeberle9510 Год назад
As an aspiring actor/writer from a working-class background with a long ways to go until I am even considered a solid working actor, hearing about nepotism and how it’s become more and more prevalent within the entertainment industry is soul-crushing. To have a consistent career in the performing arts today, you have to (1) start really young (as a child actor/performer), (2) be born into an upper-middle class or wealthy family, (3) already have a relative in the industry as it is, or (4) all three. I look at the famous actors from the Golden Age of Hollywood like Charlie Chaplin, Joan Crawford, Clara Bow, Greta Garbo, Barbara Stanwyck, Burt Lancaster, Lana Turner, and Marilyn Monroe. All of them came from lower-class and working-class backgrounds. A lot of them also came from broken homes. Would these actors and actresses stand a chance if they were trying to break out now in Hollywood? I’m not going to give up and remain persistent in what I really want to do, which is act and perform. By now, I have accepted and come to terms that my life and my path in life will always be different and difficult from everyone else, unlike those mentioned in this video. But still, actors, actresses, and performers from lower-class and working-class people deserve and should have a voice too. I’m glad this issue is finally getting some attention and focus in how rigged and unjust the industry is (and has been). It’s about time.
@musics4me
@musics4me Год назад
I was already suspicious that an Apatow kid got a role in a gritty HBO show. When her character dominated season 2 of Euphoria, it became too obvious
@treatpeoplewithkindness2955
For me the problem with some nepos babies is that they denied their privilege to be more "relatable" and that some of them are not as good in their areas and it is very clear that if they did not have connections they would have not get the role or that job.
@thisisntallowed9560
@thisisntallowed9560 Год назад
Some things people are born with also is hope. Wealthy people are more likely to dream because they're told this idea that they can be anything they want since they have lots of money and money=opportunities. When I look at people like Taylor Swift, I respect her and all she's done. But I was born in a low income house, with two narcissistic parents who wouldn't take interest in my passions, so now even as an adult I have lots of barriers like trauma and unhealthy habits like anxiety and trauma, and I can't imagine not being white. I'm not jealous I like Taylor Swift and would love to be friend with her, but we just live in two different worlds.
@Lee-qf9dz
@Lee-qf9dz Год назад
Yes, Taylor Swift had the freedom to take a leap of faith. She could take the risk of being a singer and know that if she failed, she could fall back on her parents. When you're from a poor household, those types of dreams are just dreams. If you fail, it could ruin your life. It's even worse when you're responsible for taking care of others, such as your parents or siblings, because your failure can ruin their lives too. Most people simply cannot afford to take those chances.
@emilyonizuka4698
@emilyonizuka4698 Год назад
I think most people just want them to acknowledge their privilege. you aren't a bad person for having privilege. just acknowledge it. that's all we want. and when they go, "yeah, I had these step-ups, but I still worked hard," like no one is denying you worked hard or are talented. but there are lots of people who work just as hard and are just as talented who don't get the same opportunities. just acknowledge your opportunities you had that not everyone does.
@aleenasmakeup
@aleenasmakeup Год назад
you ate.
@caitlinbelforti870
@caitlinbelforti870 Год назад
I can't even find an agent. People say that the hardest part of being an actor is all of the auditioning. I would love to even have an opportunity to audition.
@NA86737
@NA86737 Год назад
I honestly feel the way to balance it out is that nepo babies need to be willing to work with people breaking into the industry. Nepo babies in the industry should be like the Medicis and help those breaking in.
@increasedinfaith
@increasedinfaith Год назад
They’re too selfish to do so and the probably come with major insecurities, they’ll probably put someone who isn’t a product of nepotism in position then get mad that their higher than them so they don’t do it.
@lorrie9462
@lorrie9462 Год назад
I don't mind Nepo babies who are actually talented. when they're not, that's when it's very irritating
@chloelaing5464
@chloelaing5464 Год назад
Mariah Carey certainly wasn't a nepobaby and she got to the top because of her sheer talent.
@marioaustin9312
@marioaustin9312 2 месяца назад
And marrying tommy Mottola
@jaimicottrill2831
@jaimicottrill2831 Год назад
No, we feel betrayed because they refuse to acknowledge that who they know gave them a massive leg up in the industry and gave them a base to feel confident.
@turbobus4983
@turbobus4983 Год назад
"Oh boo-hoo, somebody called me out on my nepotism, so rude!"
@dianamorales1030
@dianamorales1030 Год назад
I think the problem with nepotism and how the world works is that we are left with conformism in the sense that there´s never gonna be a difference for the ones who are talented enough but can´t have the same connections , opportunities, ect. The people who are self made are exceptions of the rule and thats how you know the world is not fair and will never be
@nevm7469
@nevm7469 Год назад
here’s the thing, I came from an ultra-privileged background... my cousin was a very successful and well known artist among very elite circles and the high end of the global art world throughout the 00’s and 10’s (before his death from an OD at the end of 2016) and as a really young teen (13) I went to go live with him full time in manhattan and got sent to private schools (dalton and collegiate) where I had uber wealthy, well connected and future-famous friends and acquaintances (timothee chalamet, ansel elgort, michael consuelos, etc) and got to hang out with very famous and well connected people who would constantly come over for dinner or drinks or parties at our west village townhouse (kate moss, alison mosshart, lena dunham, anna wintours daughter bea schafer, jeff koons, annie liebovitz, zoe kravitz, madonna, lauren santo domingo, etc). I got to travel the world regularly and attend fashion shows and premieres and exclusive parties and events, etc. so by the time I was in my early 20’s just a few years ago and decided to start a company within the luxury fashion sector i knew so many people from that world and had so many connections and firsthand experience and “know-how” within it that industry that it was much easier and quicker for me to make it a success than it almost certainly otherwise would have been. I can sit here today and say that I almost certainly would not be nearly as successful as I currently am at such a young age (27) had I not had that type of of ultra-privileged and uber-connected upbringing. nepotism is real and it does give you a leg up. does that mean I didn’t do a lot of it on my own or that I didn’t have to work hard to achieve what I have? no, of course not!... but does it mean that it was a lot easier for me to do it and that I was able to achieve it much faster than most other people would have been able to? yes, 100%
@lesliewit
@lesliewit Год назад
This part! And although I'm sure you're talented, and incredibly skilled within your profession it's the fact that you own your privilege that is also also an important thing. Privilege is a problem when people pretend they don't have it and then use that pretense as an excuse not to make room for others.
@jessm2560
@jessm2560 Год назад
The myth of the American Dream obscures the very real class divide. Letting go of the idea of meritocracy has helped my mental health exponentially.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Год назад
In India, this issue has been raised and people from film lineage do have an advantage. HOWEVER, the larger issue of caste networks which create opportunities and relatively smooth career trajectory is never mentioned because it takes away the ‘Outsider’ Tag, thus making them not relatable. P.S. ‘Outsiders’ are also insiders. They’re just outsiders to certain elite circles.
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura Год назад
Never have I ever cast
@MsDiMera2
@MsDiMera2 Год назад
So true Ive noticed how in Bollywood nepotism is also rife and they dont hide it as much . You bring up an interesting point on how even the so called outsiders who are not from film families are still upper caste
@secondjulia
@secondjulia Год назад
On "naturally gifted" @4:18 : Please, everybody, read "Peak" by Anders Eriksson. It absolutely decimates the vast majority of claims of natural talent, or at least talent playing a bigger role than opportunity and training (specifically directed, high-level (read: often expensive) training). While there is a lot we don't know about the _how_ of experts & high-level performers, and there may be ways in which natural tendencies do play some role (for instance, sensitivity to reward mechanisms in the brain), we absoltely do need to put to bed the idea that someone - even a very young person - performing at a high level is just "naturally gifted". The overwhelming evidence seems to demonstrate that it is their opportunities for developing their skills and not some innate talen that is the primary driver of success. Editing to add: the point of this isn't to criticize or dismiss performers who are highly accomplished, regardless of how they got there. It's to question the idea of meritocracy and focus on increasing opportunities for all - not just career opportunities, but everything one needs to pursue a career like stable housing, a robust social safety net, educational support, etc.
@AJB3
@AJB3 Год назад
One of my favourite 'under the radar' Nepo Babies may be Amy Lee from Evanescence. She came across like an outsider goth kind at the start of their career, but her father is "John Lee, a disc jockey and television personality." That said, as soon as they dropped their early songs like "Bring Me To Life" and "My Immortal" she immediately had one of the most iconic voices of all time. Bottom line, I think most people could be OK with Nepo Babies as long as they produce good and entertaining works.
@riav7467
@riav7467 Год назад
The problem about Nepo babies is not just getting their foot in the door which is the hardest, but also have more chances to fail with no consequence, there will still be people ready to cast them even if they fail while non-nepo people who had somehow did the impossible of getting their foot into the door will at best have one chance to prove themselves before being written off.
@user-io9hj9ip2d
@user-io9hj9ip2d Год назад
it's funny how they say their famous or well connected parents had very little to do with the roles they got or only just cracked the door open. yet they fail to see that they also had access to all their parents money and all the resources in the world to be set up for success. they didn't just crack the door open for you they swung it open.
@aycaaltay9929
@aycaaltay9929 Год назад
This could go hand-in-hand with the previous “Is growing old a taboo” video. In that video, you were mentioning that the industry is becoming now less open to new actors since actors like Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, or singers like Jennifer Lopez resist getting old and being discarded by keeping their looks. The nepo babies like Dree Barrymore, Jamie Lee Curtis, or Nicolas Cage didn’t bother us that much because 1) we were less aware without the internet, and 2) there were still new openings, as the previous generation was getting older. Even though it’s a new golden age for TV with the streaming services, there are a lot of options as to which productions will be chosen by the consumers, and success is more arbitrary and uncertain. Given the openings are slimmer, when nepo babies fill in these, it becomes more alarming. It’s not a couple of babies like it used to be. Industry is more chaotic than ever and chances are slimmer for outsiders with zero connections. Nepo babies can push second chances but others can hardly push the first ones.
@MrBeetlejuice16
@MrBeetlejuice16 Год назад
Unpopular reminder: Miley Cyrus is a product of nepotism first and foremost, not just a Disney Channel star. She got the job at Disney due to her famous father landing her acting jobs when she was really young. Yet people are still claiming that she's the most self-made artist there is.
@evgeniastankevich461
@evgeniastankevich461 6 месяцев назад
don't forget that Dolly Parton is her g-dmother
@TheEclipse8
@TheEclipse8 6 месяцев назад
It’s not unpopular at all because everyone knows that about her, but it’s less bothersome when you can clearly back it up. Miley is a tremendous vocalist and acts well, Angelina Jolie, Lily Collins, Bryce Dallas Howard, etc. They back it up. Ones like Jaden/Willow, Lily Rose Depp, Dakota, Maude, Kendall - don’t do that at all.
@knelle1114
@knelle1114 Год назад
If you’re poor or ugly you have no chance in Hollywood, no matter how talented you are.
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 Год назад
Huh, who knew that being born into a certain group gave you an advantage over other people. Perhaps we should enact policies that puts people on a more equal footing that gives everyone a chance to succeed. I'm sure the powerful group won't complain about certain people getting special treatment and gaslight society into accepting their miserable lot in life. That would be ridiculous.
@admiralfrancis8424
@admiralfrancis8424 Год назад
"Perhaps we should enact policies that puts people on a more equal footing that gives everyone a chance to succeed. " How would you enforce such policies in the entertainment business?
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 Год назад
@@admiralfrancis8424 You get I'm intentionally being broader than that, right?
@admiralfrancis8424
@admiralfrancis8424 Год назад
@@jordanloux3883 I know, and I agree with you broadly, I just don't know how to enforce your proposed policy in the entertainment business, specifically.
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 Год назад
@@admiralfrancis8424 That would need people becoming more open to actors and actresses who aren't aesthetically perfect being in major pictures.
@admiralfrancis8424
@admiralfrancis8424 Год назад
@@jordanloux3883 Exactly. This isn't something that can be enforced. It requires a lot of cultural changes. But it also requires removing profit incentives. The biggest reason why studios/businesses like to choose nepo babies who are related to famous/influential people is because they are more likely to draw people's attention, thus they are more bankable.
@alyssaakabob
@alyssaakabob Год назад
Thank you for the video. I also recommend Tara Mooknee's video as well. One of the comments from the comment section of that video that stood out to me, is that there is a danger regarding the messaging and art produced from that kind of background. If the stories and experiences depicted are from such a limited echo chamber.
@andiman44
@andiman44 Год назад
@@FireSilver25 It’s really good
@anne-zh2kd
@anne-zh2kd Год назад
Yes! Exactly. That is why I hate non-autistic people making movies about autism, rich people making movies about poor people etc. It never comes from a position of identifying with us, but seems more like poverty porn or disability porn, if you know what I mean.
@stevegovea1
@stevegovea1 Год назад
I fell into acting...a lady comes up to me for a part and she knew my mom. 🤣🤣🤣
@tree3969
@tree3969 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@iibnbiibn
@iibnbiibn Год назад
Jane Fonda has also been very honest about the nepotism that granted her her fame. in her wired auto complete interview she answered the question ”why is Jane Fonda famous?” with ”I was Henry Fonda’s daughter. That’s how I became famous.”
@sylvia1797
@sylvia1797 Год назад
I feel like older actors that benefited from nepotism (Jane Fonda, Jamie Lee Curtis, for example) at least openly acknowledge that their famous parents and connections played a role in their careers. Millennial/Gen Z nepotism babies seem to write it off a lot more and chalk everything up to their "hard work"
@frodo322
@frodo322 Год назад
I think we also seem to forgive them more due to the fact they’ve been doing that for decades now. Most young people wouldn’t know Fonda and Lee Curtis came from famous parents. If they had been bad they would have never lasted. Halloween was a low budget horror film though, Jamie Lee was a nobody.
@sylvia1797
@sylvia1797 Год назад
@@frodo322 Agree. I also think because of how long they've been acting and the resumes they've built, they're probably more confident in their careers and abilities and can thus more comfortably admit that they benefited from nepotism in the early stages.
@chrissiem3958
@chrissiem3958 Год назад
I find it funny that The Take's last video was about how Lena Dunham's character in Girls is generally reviled, and in this video, they showed a clip of her essentially saying that the 'nepo baby anger [directed at her] is bullsh*t' 😂😂😂 I'm sure it was a coincidence, but I still find it funny. Fine, Lena, your parents weren't Hollywood elite--- far from it---- but they were still NY artists who had lots of connections. And to hear about Lena's pitch meeting to HBO for Girls is kinda infuriating, just cementing (for me) her lack of self awareness. Lena's character Hannah never acknowledged her priviledge in the show, and just WOW to see art imitating real life.
@Cfaerify
@Cfaerify Год назад
I think the University scandal should be added to this. The American education system is horribly complicit in this. Everyone LOVES to complain about affirmative action, but nobody ever wants to acknowledge that half the people in top universities are legacies.
@Andyanddiana467
@Andyanddiana467 Год назад
This obviously happens in other fields too. That said, I'm happy that some Nepo babies have at least tried to make their own way. Joe Hill (Stephen King's son) even changed his name just so people wouldn't think he's trying to skate on his dad's name.
@limelightraver5690
@limelightraver5690 Год назад
As my brother fittingly put it a while back. “Meritocracy has been dead in this country for a while now.”
@ameliabrittain158
@ameliabrittain158 Год назад
It was never alive. It was always been a convenient lie to make people work harder.
@fadethechannel
@fadethechannel Год назад
Your brother assumes there ever was a meritocracy. The ones who founded this country did not work for it lol
@CM-pf1xc
@CM-pf1xc Год назад
Well like the take is saying, it never existed
@cybersquire
@cybersquire Год назад
Meritocracy was always a Myth
@unionunicorn6776
@unionunicorn6776 Год назад
Meritocracy is in direct conflict with inheritance. We can not be a society that allows inheritance and yet insist that everything is based on merit. If people who have nothing in this world can’t “pull themselves up from their bootstraps” because they just don’t get the opportunities that someone with affluent parents would get, there is no merit to that. Either we are an inheritance society, or a merit based society, but we can not be both.
@ciaxx
@ciaxx Год назад
Most societies exist on a continuum and are not entirely merit based or inheritance based. There is actually a statistical measurement that can be applied to countries to determine how merit based they are. It found the USA to be about half merit based (meaning half your destiny is, statistically speaking, determined by where you started - so yes, some can beat the system, and do, but many will not.) Canada, which has cheaper university education for its citizens, is about 75% merit based. Not sure about other countries.
@unionunicorn6776
@unionunicorn6776 Год назад
@@ciaxx That is interesting. As an American, I don’t really like those odds. :(
@sebastianrosa7935
@sebastianrosa7935 Год назад
It's interesting to think about; I remember reading that Idris Elba wouldn't let his daughter star in a movie with him because he felt she wasn't ready, and refused to allow his fame to advance her career,because she needed to do that herself.
@user-jb8vn7vf1y
@user-jb8vn7vf1y 9 месяцев назад
As a Korean, Nepotism is like a giant malignant tumor of meritocracy. It makes sense for a senior to be high-class with outstanding ability. But it's hard to understand Junior being a high-class man with Nepotism. In particular, controversy over fairness will arise in Korea, which was rebuilt under the influence of the United States after the disappearance of the status system after the Korean War. Even chaebols are not free from meritocracy and fairness controversy. Therefore, chaebols are aware of the controversy over fairness, but they even train their abilities harshly to pass it on to Junior.
@collinwimbish4516
@collinwimbish4516 Год назад
There's nothing wrong with being highborn if you're self-aware & a class traitor.
@amyadams9970
@amyadams9970 Год назад
Personally, if you can act that's okay in my opinion. But the ones who are crap, I feel like we should call them out. Dakota Johnson is a great example, she wasn't that great of an actress, so why the hell did they make her the lead in 50 shades of grey!? To this day, most of her movies arent that great. No hate on the actress but she is taking away from actual talent and it's annoying. But also, this isn't anything new and it will probably never change.
@dnikkithatsame5990
@dnikkithatsame5990 Год назад
Her mom was a nepo baby too… so it’s doubly disappointing because her mom beyond one film wasn’t great
@Whackadoo1
@Whackadoo1 Год назад
She is better in indie roles, like the Suspiria remake and A Bigger Splash.
@randywhite3947
@randywhite3947 Год назад
@@Whackadoo1 don’t forget bad times at the el royale.
@Whackadoo1
@Whackadoo1 Год назад
@@randywhite3947 I still haven't seen that movie yet. I need to get that done finally.
@DanaJaneWriter
@DanaJaneWriter Год назад
so not true. Dakota Johnson is one of the very best . She is an amazing actress
@j.m251
@j.m251 Год назад
The Wayans are the best nepo family ever. I absolutely love that they put each other on
@falloutgirl902
@falloutgirl902 Год назад
I honest don’t gfa when they’re not white. Nepo tf up.
@garyholtzman5155
@garyholtzman5155 Год назад
I was with you until almost the end, when your conclusion seemed to be, "Oh, well. Inequality sucks but hopefully some of the privileged few will use their privilege to help the masses." I mean, yes. It is good for people to help the less fortunate, and people like Jane Fonda and Ronan Farrow should be applauded for having gone above and beyond most people of whatever background to make working for change a focus of their lives. But, the real goal must remain what it was for those who coined the idea of the American Dream originally: Making a more equitable society in which genuine meritocracy can thrive. There will always be nepotism and family connections have always provided a leg up, but the current level of inequality and intergenerational privilege has not been seen in the USA for a century. It does not need to be this way, either in Hollywood or in society at large.
@julaju3218
@julaju3218 Год назад
I’m a bit torn on this. On one hand, lucky or not, it’s a blessing that people can pursue their passions. On the other hand, I don’t think it’s fair and it can limit the storytelling too. When I see another “chosen one” or “you’re destined” trope, I want to take my eyes out. It would be best if it wasn’t just one or the other.
@eteixeira90
@eteixeira90 Год назад
As the son of immigrant parents, I gotta say, I don't think the idea of "The American Dream" was that everything would be fair. Maybe I am biased, but I always viewed this Dream to be of bettering oneself and having the freedom to do so.
@sdarling6518
@sdarling6518 Год назад
Access to the limited freedoms available in the U.S. isn't free. Also, any self-created definition of "The American dream" is based on unrealistic and unchallenged ideas about what life in this country is like, especially for people who don't live here. So many people outside of the U.S. have all kinds of ideas that are utter stereotypical nonsense. That can be said for anyone living outside of a country, but with strong unchallenged ideas about the said country.
@eteixeira90
@eteixeira90 Год назад
@@sdarling6518 do you speak from experience? Because I do. I have lived and worked outside of the US, I have friends and family who live in another country with severely more limited resources than the US. And anyway, you're right that all dreams are based on unrealistic ideas, but dreams are still worth pursuing, and I can tell you that the dream of having a better life after starting from nothing is much more attainable in the US than in most places.
@survivalwriter2635
@survivalwriter2635 Год назад
@@eteixeira90 that is not true if you compare it to other countries in the developed world with comparable economies and wealth. The United States has the largest income gaps compared to other powerful nations. This inequality is exacerbated even more when you factor race in the equation and look at how our country treats African-American communities versus white ones.
@lesliewit
@lesliewit Год назад
You always have to consider where you're coming from in order to correctly evaluate where you're going to. I recently had a discussion with my son who was given an assignment and its history class. The assignment was to answer all the questions in the citizenship exam. He was pretty frustrated with it because according to him it was "history at a fifth grade level." People who immigrate to the United States are not getting the entire story of how this country exists today and how it came to be. Many times folks who immigrate here are coming from pretty terrible circumstances, and because of our immigration policies they're also coming with a set of privileges that folks in who were born here don't have access to. Look up "Model Minority" policies. The US isn't different than anywhere else. There's a very complex set of checks and balances designed to keep certain people at a certain level while allowing others to advance.
@v-22
@v-22 Год назад
This plagues everything not just entertainment and politics. A well-off cousin of mine was bad-mouthing one of our friends for having borrowed money from his family; he said, "I'm proud I built it all on my own, I never had to ask anyone for a favor." He literally inherited his uncle's construction conglomerate but he credits it all to his hard work. People are fucking clueless, they don't have internal mirrors.
@Yowzoe
@Yowzoe Год назад
Very thoughtful and reasoned essay, with sharp editing and examples. Thank you!
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