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The Rocket League Community Is Falling Apart 

Wayton Pilkin
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The first week of 2023 has been quite the chaotic one in the Rocket League community. From bots infiltrating the ranked system, to content creators being accused of viewbotting, to a huge portion of the bubble scene being permanently banned, there's no shortage of stuff to talk about right now.
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In this video I briefly cover a couple of the big stories that have happened recently in the Rocket League community, but focus on one of them particularly. A decent portion of the semi-pro Rocket League scene in NA was just permanently banned for having something called a tradelocked alpha boost on their accounts. I explain what that means and why it's bannable and discuss the future of the these players' careers.
Outro Song: Isaac App - TANGO
0:00 Intro
0:27 The Viewbotter
1:07 Rocket League Bots Are In Ranked
2:38 Another Community Is Banned
3:56 Why are they banned?
5:43 The Exploit
8:08 The 2nd Wave
9:03 False Bans?
9:46 Future of RLCS
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@WaytonPilkin
@WaytonPilkin Год назад
Psyonix made a statement about the bans! Here's the reddit thread going over the situation www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/10jvnbu/update_on_alpha_boost_account_bans/ TL;DR Psyonix has decided to unban the accounts but still remove the Tradelocked Alpha Boosts. So the bubble players can continue competing in competitive Rocket League events!
@Fuppe.
@Fuppe. Год назад
The ban report should have been "your account is banned: reason. We have found illegal items on your account, if you think this is a mistake please contact us!" would have made more sense for those who got banned
@GoBlueHTB
@GoBlueHTB Год назад
Every single player that was banned would say “I think this is a mistake!”
@rubberducky5990
@rubberducky5990 Год назад
it is f2p. ban is futile
@psychicfoxvt
@psychicfoxvt Год назад
@@rubberducky5990 Not entirely true. Devs HAVE done hardware bans before, and I imagine with enough accounts created the devs would be able to track down the person creating the accounts to avoid the perma-ban. Plus, any items accrued on the original account would be totally lost forever.
@henrybrothers2209
@henrybrothers2209 Год назад
That's a good idea! I feel like I know you from somewhere though 🤔
@kimchi_b
@kimchi_b Год назад
I just wish I had a hoop :(
@warlock_r
@warlock_r Год назад
Bots in ranked really put into perspective how good we had it when our main complaints were "the new banners, decals,... are ugly"
@winz319
@winz319 Год назад
fr
@tusky3655
@tusky3655 Год назад
Now the items look better at the cost of gameplay. We did it but was it worth it?
@heloriverdale7468
@heloriverdale7468 Год назад
@@tusky3655 Bots still aren't a huge issue though
@tusky3655
@tusky3655 Год назад
@@heloriverdale7468 this game used to be unhackable tho
@7dayspking
@7dayspking Год назад
I don't quite understand outrage about bots in ranked. Far as I can see it mainly impacts the account that's botting. I don't see this significantly shifting people's ranks (if that even matters) unless it shifts everyone's ranks at once (same as having no effect.) If you're an 'unfortunate' lower rank it's similar to playing a Smurf which has been widespread for a long time.
@connermyers5481
@connermyers5481 Год назад
As a player who plays mainly rumble at most two hours a week, this affects me greatly
@PeachRap
@PeachRap Год назад
I feel you man, i also wish i could play my 2 hours of hoops monthly without all this stress
@brainloading5543
@brainloading5543 Год назад
Oh maaan saame, I play Snow day 15 seconds a month and it's been a struggle since then
@PeachRap
@PeachRap Год назад
@@brainloading5543 what the puck are you talking about?
@hhaste
@hhaste Год назад
@@brainloading5543 15 seconds plus the 15 minute queue time, of course.
@Kurosaka
@Kurosaka Год назад
@@hhaste yup
@makimi1st
@makimi1st Год назад
I feel like the item trading and general security system in Rocket League needs a serious overhaul, if not then these kinds of stuff won't stop happening. Think about it, we literally have bots playing legit ranked matches which if put in to comparison is honestly equivalent to aim-botting in FPS games. Also for the trade bans, if they had just removed the scam victim's traded item from the scammers inventory then none of this abomination of ban waves would've happened. Then again I think they probably have limited resources and time for general optimization patches in Rocket League considering they're working on porting the game to UE5.
@Charybdis2120
@Charybdis2120 Год назад
Same lol
@AnFonE
@AnFonE Год назад
Except, how can you be sure that the receiving the item is the scammer and not the scammed? What if it was sold and paid for through an external means? They both should've been trade locked and this would've been a better solution.
@nosekills
@nosekills Год назад
@@AnFonE XD exactly. Let's just remove items from people's inventory whenever someone else requests that... I'm sire it'll be OK
@charliesanders3796
@charliesanders3796 Год назад
You think that LOL try minecraft I am being serouis
@WaytonPilkin
@WaytonPilkin Год назад
Yeah true I definitely think they need to adjust the way they ban accounts and enforce security in general, But regardless, I don’t expect scammers and hackers to be completely removed from the game any time soon. It’s a constant arms race where Psyonix has to address each hack or scam as they come up. Pretty hard to predict bots invading ranked when it’s been clean for 7 years 😂 Hopefully they just put up the necessary precautions after resolving this to prevent it from happening again. For me, it’s really the repeated mistakes from them that get me kinda annoyed.
@toddcommish704
@toddcommish704 Год назад
Put into criminal terms, "borrowing" an alpha boost is essentially laundering contraband, giving it a "legitimate" source. Unfortunately for the scammers, digital stuff probably carries a digital identifier, making it easily traceable through the (closed) system. Therefore, everyone that EVER touched it is now tainted and easily banned.
@tamkiclips2493
@tamkiclips2493 Год назад
psyonix is acc handling situations better than 99% of other game devs ngl
@xxDriftyxx3
@xxDriftyxx3 Год назад
You're not wrong. They either broke TOS or their friend who let them use alpha boost did. This is just like what would happen in real life - guilty by association. So I think that instead of being mad at psyonix for banning them, they should be mad at their friends. And for those directly involved... They have no reason to be upset lol.
@brhubruh3872
@brhubruh3872 Год назад
@@xxDriftyxx3 fax
@K_Kns
@K_Kns Год назад
Nah its not I was hacked once and my all items were traded and when I talk with the support he said he can see my all items been traded but it doesnt show as hacked so they cant give items back, he doesnt even make sense
@GoBlueHTB
@GoBlueHTB Год назад
My friend quit the game because he upgraded his Xbox One to a Series S and he lost his Skyline. He opened multiple tickets and they still haven’t helped.
@tamkiclips2493
@tamkiclips2493 Год назад
@@GoBlueHTB yk other devs dont even care about ur items bieng lost so
@Zel-Veraan
@Zel-Veraan Год назад
As someone who isn't a big art of the RL community, I greatly appreciate these video essays as I usually don't have a clue what's up with it. Thank for the video, Wayton, I always appreciate the info.
@ninetailedkat_.2713
@ninetailedkat_.2713 Год назад
Same I’m never in the community just tryna hit d2 lol
@prime6785
@prime6785 Год назад
@@ninetailedkat_.2713 Same man even though I've playing since 2016
@xrconner557
@xrconner557 Год назад
@@prime6785 i played since 2015 and i didnt make it to champion till 2021 lol. But then again i did quit 2018-2020... anyways these videos are definetly rly helpful to understand whats going on cause i never even knew this ban happened.
@alisonmoore6281
@alisonmoore6281 Год назад
Rocket Leauge be wildin lately
@tundrabancho7207
@tundrabancho7207 Год назад
Dude. Very mature way of talking about all of this. More people need to take this stance before grabbing a pitchfork and joining the mob to hate on people
@Kurosaka
@Kurosaka Год назад
fax i like the way he reports on things no "YOU WONT BELIVE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY" BS just calm level headed content
@Glenhh
@Glenhh Год назад
The older you get the more you’ll realize that won’t happen. Most people are dense…
@the_pope6073
@the_pope6073 Год назад
Man, I can’t understand why big companies like RU-vid and psyonix can’t just elaborate on stuff like this, it would’ve been better to detail the ban instead of just saying “permanetly banned”.
@chicken9507
@chicken9507 Год назад
Hi pope :D
@pal1531
@pal1531 Год назад
Hello Pope!
@susnojutsu2525
@susnojutsu2525 Год назад
Deadass, I'd at least want to know the reason I'm getting perma banned. Plus if it happens to be that the perma ban was a false one, then I should be able to contact psyonix to ask them to look again.
@MrDilwo
@MrDilwo Год назад
Because then you're giving more information on people who are trying to avoid getting banned. It's essentially a never ending back and forth between the banner and the banned.
@cmdrfunk
@cmdrfunk Год назад
They want it to remain ambiguous so they can ban whoever they want and then mysteriously say they violated some mysterious rule that they won't expand upon. It's how all these social media things operate now. They aren't on your side.
@rlplayz6643
@rlplayz6643 Год назад
I have also just played a bot Wayton and i have video footage of it, too. Also, they left immediately after the match started. The player had terrible mechanics for my rank, c3, and kept backflipping whenever going for aerials and hadn't hit a single aerial for the 2 games i played it.
@princessrainbow3756
@princessrainbow3756 Год назад
On the bans, I wonder if psyonix even knew how broadly the fake alpha accounts were spread, maybe they meant to ban 30 accounts with specific characteristics but instead it ended up being 1000 accounts that matched those characteristics? Also I remember this coming up in a Leth video where he OBVIOUSLY knew something was being done about it but didnt say much.
@Lassviigne
@Lassviigne Год назад
which video?
@princessrainbow3756
@princessrainbow3756 Год назад
@@Lassviigne ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6LMkxsEEiSs.html
@red0ctane19
@red0ctane19 Год назад
@@Lassviigne I believe it was the one from 7 days ago he played with Retals. It was possibly farther back than that, but I'm quite positive it was a fairly recent ranked with Retals video to at least narrow down the search. It was a brief discussion, though. Edit: I lied. I remembered the video. From 10 days ago titled "Rocket League should fix this EXPLOIT (...and fast).
@smellyghost
@smellyghost Год назад
Yeah him and Retals talk about it a bit. I think Retals is actually the one who brought up the locked alpha boost epic accounts and that people were buying them but Leth brought up the hack clients and faking items and stuff during online play. Edit: yeah same video you mention they talk a bit 6:20-7:20ish and Retals brings up the alpha boost accounts and that bubble players were buying them.
@red0ctane19
@red0ctane19 Год назад
@@smellyghost Yeah I went back and listened to it after watching this and realized Retals straight said that bubble players are buying accounts with locked alpha. Didn't fully register what he meant at the time but after this vid I was like "awww damn!". Leth's reaction to Retals saying that also seemed like he was about to say something he knew but didn't.
@IsaacApp
@IsaacApp Год назад
ABSOLUTE LEGEND thank you for the amazing content + using my music in the outro ❤
@chicken9507
@chicken9507 Год назад
W issac app bro
@chicken9507
@chicken9507 Год назад
Has no idea he watched wayton lol
@spongmoid842
@spongmoid842 Год назад
my favorite caster woo
@TUNK5TER
@TUNK5TER Год назад
Never have I ever been so glad to not own alpha boost! I wouldn’t want to get banned just cuz someone duplicated it before I got traded it
@zombsroyale6972
@zombsroyale6972 Год назад
thats why i use bakkes mod :)
@HardwareDealer
@HardwareDealer Год назад
@@zombsroyale6972 What I see: Alpha boost What they see: Nuts N' Bolts
@xBULTx
@xBULTx Год назад
You got it completely spot on. I won an epic with a trade locked alpha boost from a giveaway and linked the epic to my steam. Caught the perma ban but after I unlinked them epic. I was unbanned. Never knew the account I won was an exploit. Unfortunate
@CadenRL
@CadenRL Год назад
Ran into a bot yesterday in c2, strangest thing I have ever gone against
@CadenRL
@CadenRL Год назад
It seemed like a different bot than nexto though, the kickoff was way slower. I was able to get most of my goals on kickoff
@santanders865
@santanders865 Год назад
I’m in C1 rn so I feel like I’m about to run into these bots
@reecewithoutherspoon1324
@reecewithoutherspoon1324 Год назад
@@CadenRL had the exact same experience today, I lost, but most my goals I was able to get off kickoff. Could not defend against his ficks tho, basically impossible
@Lucasberrin
@Lucasberrin Год назад
@@CadenRL that's the previous version of Nexto called Necto.
@prcxiale1124
@prcxiale1124 Год назад
@@Lucasberrin no, there’s a new SSL bot called Kraken,
@Firedag
@Firedag Год назад
I ran into a bot too yesterday in a 1090 rated 1v1, super crazy once I figured out what was going on. It kept doing delayed kickoff dunks and once I figured out how to beat it, it was super easy, but still I was scared that it would hit perfect reads and perfect flicks. I looked up the account and the bot had gone from plat 2 to gc 2 in a few days in 1's. The account was called Jamesco you can look it up on RL tracker it has a white J as the pfp
@zoomcat5138
@zoomcat5138 Год назад
meeting a bot in 1v1 is gonna make this game feel like elden ring. Sure the opponent is a bot that has ruthless precision, but it is beatable.
@sogeshirts
@sogeshirts Год назад
Thanks for this vid Wayton. I hadn't heard about the banned accounts. A lot going on in RL these days!
@DABOSS190
@DABOSS190 Год назад
We’re barely into 2023 and we’ve already had so many crazy things happen in the rl community
@Nvv58
@Nvv58 Год назад
Wayton: RL is falling apart.... Me: damn that's crazy bro
@tomohawk2177
@tomohawk2177 Год назад
RL fell off + ratio
@amishaa...
@amishaa... Год назад
@@tomohawk2177 😂😂
@scorpion0498
@scorpion0498 Год назад
Me de-ranking harder than ever lately: meh time to quit lmao
@nuggetz4037
@nuggetz4037 Год назад
Sick joke bro.
@ignDart
@ignDart Год назад
@@tomohawk2177 FR
@alvingerguis1253
@alvingerguis1253 Год назад
Love your vids man, you never cease to surprise me. 👊
@giovannitaveras9031
@giovannitaveras9031 Год назад
I’m fed up with the bots in ranked!! The only easy way to score on them is from their delayed kickoff, but even then half the time I still get demoed or bumped off and then the bot just gets perfect ball control and flicks it right over my head right before I jump. It is beyond annoying. Every other game I was playing was against a bot. I have clips and replay files if anyone wants to take a look at the boys that I’ve been playing against. But yeah, the amount of bots in rocket league ranked around c3-gc1 is insane.
@Mathis.2k
@Mathis.2k Год назад
My friend and I just played against a bot today. We never encountered something like that before. I followed the news lately about this Nexto bot, but never expected to see it in my ranked game (champ 3). He was even typing in chat while driving and playing... Didn't even know that was possible lol.
@grandpahgamer3526
@grandpahgamer3526 Год назад
Another outstanding video. Your writing, editing and story telling are unmatched imho. Love ur content.
@leogerman7611
@leogerman7611 Год назад
Like, RL is my Fav Game, i Hope it will never Fall..😢
@windur
@windur Год назад
I experienced this a few days ago! I played in champ mmr and just assumed I met a GC smurf in ranked that had practiced flicks ALOT. But now I realize he was actually a bot. Every time he got the ball on his head, it was stuck there like it was glued. And he always reacted perfectly to whatever move I tried...
@TheBestofRL
@TheBestofRL Год назад
Another great video Wayton!!
@aMp-
@aMp- Год назад
Why "borrow" something in the first place? Don't care about what pixels you have and play the game... They deserve it, if it helps against scammers. They should've been more careful when someone lends you something worth lots of money. Seems sus AF, and probably one way to make the scam-trail harder to follow. And who knows, they possibly knew that and took a cut, just so they could spend more time getting better in RL instead of spending time earning money.. Just my take as a low ranked diamond player (haven't played in 3-5 months tho), with terrible air control and bad defense.
@bammcmichael1217
@bammcmichael1217 Год назад
I think that banning people should not be done without giving a clear direct reason why stating spisificly why there being banned it would be horrifying to log onto rocket league and see that I'm never able to play again with 0 explanation why and I'm sure that the players that where almost into rlcs felt that way more then I did dedicating most of there life to something and have it all shut down with no explanation
@kermitthefrog7963
@kermitthefrog7963 Год назад
Fr like I feel so bad for this mainly for the people who didn’t even know and in my opinion the ones that did know should’ve gotten a warning at least and a suspension at max since this doesn’t effect gameplay at all (obviously should they do this again a perma ban would be warranted)
@Dracconus
@Dracconus Год назад
As someone that has 11 accounts because I keep getting banned because I refuse to hard carry people that sit afk, or chase constantly - Banning accounts now a day does NOTHING without effective measures in place to prevent new accounts from being made. The game's free, and that's the worst part about rocket league as a whole. I'd MUCH rather pay to play this game and have people that actually VALUE their account and time in the game playing it than have to deal with the shit I do now.
@Sque_ze
@Sque_ze Год назад
Dude I went against someone who had a demo bot active! It was absurd, they used the perfect amount of boost to keep supersonic and perfectly tracked my car with ballcam!!!
@Maverickroll.
@Maverickroll. Год назад
I have just come back to rocket league after 2 years, I used to watch you back when you had 30-something thousand subscribers or so. I'm sad to see this (the community falling apart) but you never disappoint when it comes to your content.
@shadowyzephyr
@shadowyzephyr Год назад
The title is a bit exaggerated because that's what you need to do on youtube. The community has been shook by these events, but I don't think it's anything permanent. Other games have hacks and dupes and don't die, the devs just have to stay patching them.
@TriggeredMidget
@TriggeredMidget Год назад
You know, they should just add bots that are capable of playing in every rank in offline mode, from bronze to SSL. Would be nice to have something like smash bros where the bots can actually be hard to beat. It would make things nice to be able to mess around with a say champ bot and SSL bot in offline mode in exhibition. It is long over due imo.
@melleneary9269
@melleneary9269 Год назад
I have an attacking concept for you that you might give a go. It's a tactic I used to train in hockey. When there are two attackers, at or passed the midfield, one left, one right, and 1 or 2 defenders, you can try to pass the ball from the left to the right or the other way around to juke the defenders and score on the other side. I hope it will work, it did in hockey so, and meaby it will be new meta, who knows. BTW I love your vids
@michaelporter8186
@michaelporter8186 Год назад
I had this happen last year and looked online for hours, pretty much read that rocket league is loosing heaps of players and basically using bots to fill lobbies
@mikethebikegaming9646
@mikethebikegaming9646 Год назад
I fought a Nexto at champ 2. it was rly bad but had extraordinary precise shots sometimes. its beatable but def annoying to see in game. it had been SSL in S8 according to its title.
@shadowyzephyr
@shadowyzephyr Год назад
The person you're playing probably bought the account. Although it doesn't seem like Nexto the way you described it. Nexto has precise flicks and doesn't often miss.
@mikethebikegaming9646
@mikethebikegaming9646 Год назад
@@shadowyzephyr it was very precise, by "rly bad" i meant it never went for aerials or anything other than flicks and somehow flipping perfectly so the ball redirects off it super precisely. Other than those two things it did me and my tm easily outclassed it and the other opp
@RocketMonke69420
@RocketMonke69420 Год назад
Have to say, aside from the people who got banned by just having alpha boost for a time, I don't feel sorry for the rest at all. if you do something that you know is not allowed then you have no right to complain if it ends up hitting you in the face.
@deanschmale534
@deanschmale534 Год назад
thanks Wayton!! you are my new source for rocket league news. :D
@TiedK
@TiedK Год назад
have actually played a few bots in ranked 2s and 3s now.. starting to get really annoying when im like trying to climb ranks.. sitting around Gc2 in 2s and Gc1 in 3s.. really eird when u meet a 3 man team where only 1 of them is a real person and the 2 others can't do aerials and stuff, only ground control and flicks on point.. and btw link to get the RLCS hoodie?:)
@billybegood466
@billybegood466 Год назад
As someone who was once banned for 30 days - and to this day I STILL have no idea why I was banned - the customer support from Psyonix is worthless. You can go back and forth a hundred times and they will never tell you why you were banned or try to fix the situation. They will always just say: "I've confirmed that your ban was correctly placed. Bye now!"
@LoneBeastYT
@LoneBeastYT Год назад
to me the issue with speaking out the reasoning maybe because they dont have a perfect solution and to spill the beans would mean that the ones that are still unbanned for alphaboost thing would actually get away, its like with the fbi who will only speak out after the operation (for example the stuxnet virus) i think psyonix who are developing a new game to begin with and would need account linking systems between old and new rocketleague cannot do much to old rocket league in terms of perfecting resources soo they are trying to solve as many issues before the release and hence people cannot alpha boost duplicate and get it through new rocket league where its likely that the trade data wouldnt be accessible and hence they wiped their hands clean
@jaybizzal
@jaybizzal Год назад
Ue5 coming soon ya think?
@LoneBeastYT
@LoneBeastYT Год назад
@@jaybizzal soon is relative, it ain't coming tomorrow but for game development relativity i think it is soon enough that epic games need to start taking action of ue4 issues/bans before porting over people...after all banning people a day before ue5 rl will cause too much bad rep
@Nothingishereyo
@Nothingishereyo Год назад
I stopped playing about a month and a half ago. Matching making was so bad that I was getting paired against obvious trolls (teams of 3 that all had matching names). Now with all the bots and the ever-toxic teammates that nothing ever happens to... I'm done. 2,000 hours, done.
@DamarcusChlorine
@DamarcusChlorine Год назад
I feel like every rl item has a specific ID for each item and that's why so many people got banned at the same time, they could just find out which alpha boost was used for duping and who came into contact with them. (and that probably explains why some innocent people that had them were banned too)
@thisisaduck
@thisisaduck Год назад
Just a theory. The bots in ranked problem might be people selling GC accounts but instead of having to play themselves, they just set a bot to work and they get loads of free GC accounts to sell with almost no effort.
@wolfgangbr1576
@wolfgangbr1576 Год назад
I really like this theory. It comes once again back to people doing freaking anything for that sweet, sweet cash. If you're right, all of this will get worse and worse - with increasingly ridiculous ways to abuse games for personal profit. Sad, sad world we live in.
@anubis7589
@anubis7589 Год назад
wouldnt surprise me, most of the rl community is a bunch of i belong here but i really belong below my rank attitude people and since they know they cant get out of there rank theyd probably do exacltly this because they are mad that they cant progress so they try to take it out on the community as a whole. or rocket league has finally came to age and has begun the age of hackers and ai bots taking over the game as ALOT of other games deal with . time will tell for sure
@JusticeExplorer
@JusticeExplorer Год назад
What. Thats all thats happening, whats the theory.
@wolfgangbr1576
@wolfgangbr1576 Год назад
@@JusticeExplorer maybe google what exactly a theory is if youre serious ;)
@PeachRap
@PeachRap Год назад
​@@wolfgangbr1576 Be happy ♥ Come play with me, i will destroy you but at least you'll know i'm real haha!
@vladimirkirillov1130
@vladimirkirillov1130 Год назад
I'm late but this is definetly a serious issue that needs to be addressed
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 Год назад
This situation has been insane. I got scammed once. I didn’t even realize I could make a support ticket years ago. But it makes sense that people exploited it. Glad they didn’t ban people who got suckered into it even if it was a big mistake of them
@stranger16luis71
@stranger16luis71 Год назад
I have seen 3 types of Bots: 1. It's just pure nexto playing all the time 2. It's a mix, the player is playing when in the air or even in the ground, but all of a sudden they kinda start the cheat engine and it takes the ball on the roof and starts dribbling exactly like nexto and flicks. 3. Another one that goes for demos with all it's might, not all the time but maybe when the demo cheat starts.
@psychicfoxvt
@psychicfoxvt Год назад
I'm a silver who plays occasionally, and I've literally done nothing but play the game as intended (I haven't even bought credits or anything), and it's these ban videos that actually make me a bit worried that I'm going to be banned for no reason at some point. I know that's unlikely, but with the way things are escalating it doesn't seem like something totally out of question. Incredible video BTW. Very informative and well done. Editing was top notch, and it really helped enlighten us people who never use twitter and are totally clueless of the situation. Nice work. =]
@XJokermanX
@XJokermanX Год назад
Daddy kopperberg smelly pants
@christinaevequoz
@christinaevequoz Год назад
You shouldn't worry, these bans were earned. No matter what the "victims" say. I own alpha boost and haven't been banned. Why ? Because i never traded it with anybody. If you are silver and dont own alpha items and are not getting boosted, you will never be banned :)
@penguincross7897
@penguincross7897 Год назад
Personally, Wayton, I think we need people to go over the scenarios like the viewbot accusations more deeply. It is terrible to me that people will simply jump to one side of an argument and stay there. We've been conditioned to do this, so I think that anything you can do to call it out helps people think for themselves. People need to rationally hear both arguments, consider their own opinions, and decide for themselves. Just a thought o' mine.
@dcp0102
@dcp0102 Год назад
Welcome to the internet. People don't think for themselves
@penguincross7897
@penguincross7897 Год назад
@@dcp0102 Yeah, I just can't accept that I guess. It seems too far gone to change unless we get help from any famous influencers.
@matthewfisher4443
@matthewfisher4443 Год назад
I don't know if you've seen this part, Wayton, but Leth had a video with this stuff being brought up in it. Him and Retals we're playing 2v2 and a bunch of players were popping up that didn't have Alpha boost before. He was saying that there is an actual program that you could download that would actually put the items in your inventory. It was like BakkesMod but the items you equipped would actually show up.
@shadowyzephyr
@shadowyzephyr Год назад
There have been a couple mods that do things (no, rocket league wasn't "unhackable" before this, like many people claimed) but psyonix patched them pretty quickly. I don't think this was ever a widespread issue.
@Darr254
@Darr254 Год назад
I'll make sure to keep that in mind
@paulhorton7792
@paulhorton7792 Год назад
Imo... they really need to do more to crack down on the smurfing/ intentionally lower rank or queuing with lower rank friends. Sitting at around champ 2 for about a year now its getting out of control. The amount on my experience is insane. Basically every other game. I've had games facing champ 2 or champ 3 and they have a diamond or even a platinum player on their team. And then you see them carrying this player knowing that they are probably higher in rank than c2 and the other player not even knowing where they are on the field. It definitely gets frustrating. Especially when I have been pushing for GC for awhile now. If I'm the only person seeing this as an issue then I'll be quiet. But I know doing that is against ToS and was even talked about maybe a yr or 2 ago. And it just seems like nothing really happened. And as a player who can't spend hours a day playing with work/family/ stuff like that it gets frustrating just being stuck. Anyways, keep up the good work wayton. You, spook and Virge are my favorite rl youtubers, keep it up!
@danishahmadhamdard7345
@danishahmadhamdard7345 Год назад
Not really I always get matched with the perfect ppl so there isn’t really a big gap in mechanics and matchmaking they did a perfect job with matchmaking
@CactousMan639
@CactousMan639 Год назад
I totally agree with you about intentional SMURFS in competitive and even casual, but talking about high rank players sometimes playing with lower ones IN CASUAL, should be something completely free to do... just because of, you know: true FRIENDSHIPS also playing our favorite videogame... And what should be done for that case is to have a better matchmaking system, in order to balance your solo queue team with another random player around the level of the highest one in the opposite party.
@paulhorton7792
@paulhorton7792 Год назад
@cactousman4413 oh in casual I don't care. It's casual I'm specifically talking about rank, should have clarified on that.
@CactousMan639
@CactousMan639 Год назад
@@paulhorton7792 🙃
@CactousMan639
@CactousMan639 Год назад
@@danishahmadhamdard7345 Of course dude, then you're the luckiest RL player alive 😎
@anthonyflores7567
@anthonyflores7567 Год назад
At this point there has been bad actors in the scene for a while, so the actions psyonix has taken in the last few years is only increasing the safety of players when it comes to the shop and trading improvements. I do hope people who were indirectly associated do get help however
@Tuneke
@Tuneke Год назад
Just been banned in the ban wave that just happened for the bots and have never used a bot , support wont even look into it fully
@braserl
@braserl Год назад
I like that you put Flitz audio in the start
@StarwindIV
@StarwindIV Год назад
man, sucks when the consequences of your actions comes back to hit you lol
@alansmithee419
@alansmithee419 Год назад
A couple of notes: 1. Psyonix does not owe players breaking terms of service an explanation for why they were banned. 2. Psyonix *does* owe the community at large explanations for mass-bans so that they don't get confused, and so that players accidentally caught in the crossfire can get help.
@Traumahawk04
@Traumahawk04 Год назад
I know a top 100 player who got banned for this exact thing except it was about 3 weeks ago
@freddyhd8317
@freddyhd8317 Год назад
I met one also! In high c2, i was very confused 2 days ago when he started writing while playing saying stuff like its a bot and it will improve as it plays
@2_st0ned70
@2_st0ned70 Год назад
maybe the people claiming to be innocent are´nt innocent? and who borrows an alphaboost for 1 h??? what sense makes this? i think they knew it was about scamming so the ban´s are comprehensible
@Woodrow512
@Woodrow512 Год назад
Agreed on the first part, they might just be lying about being innocent. The second part though? You'd be surprised how many people would do that kind of thing (e.g. borrowing Alpha Boost) just to flex for a while. Vanity is a serious issue, specially for younger kids, it wouldnt be a surprise at all if they were honestly just borrowing It to brag about having it (for a while at least, maybe for some Tik-tok clips or whatever)
@2_st0ned70
@2_st0ned70 Год назад
@@Woodrow512 yeah that may be true
@DuelistRL
@DuelistRL Год назад
This wouldn't be problem if players could just purchase the damn thing for not a 4 figure price 🙄
@driesjansen3273
@driesjansen3273 Год назад
that's just part of any game/ item collecting. The one rarest or most wanted item will always be very expensive.
@JacobSkatezz
@JacobSkatezz Год назад
@Dries Jansen shouldn't be a thing honestly it's not like it's a basketball signed by LeBron fucking James it's a pixel on a screen and the company's are stupidity for keeping in game items "rare" they literally would make a fortune if they put these items in the item shop I get ranked rewards being season specific but anything else in a video game should be available to all and most people don't want this item because it's "rare" most people want this item because it's a clean looking boost instead of all these other ugly boosts they be giving us
@driesjansen3273
@driesjansen3273 Год назад
@@JacobSkatezz I mean you can argue that logic into anything man. Like why should a ball that has some ink on it be worth 10.000x more then a regular basketball? It's always the value we humans give it. It doesn't matter what it is or isn't. The Alpha boost is a specific reward for people playing the alpha version, just like you have the white hat. Would be stupid to be able to purchase it in the shop, is like being able to purchase a trophy or season 7 GC rewards you know. They should have just made the aplha items untradable like other fixed rewards.
@Theoneandonlyguy
@Theoneandonlyguy Год назад
I played a GC3 who I later found out was a bot. I quit later that day and I am rightly pissed at how unfair this is.
@splashh8341
@splashh8341 Год назад
i saw that all over twitter its crazy
@aidanconrad6117
@aidanconrad6117 Год назад
Why does Psyonix always find a way to make sure their most dedicated players get banned? Like do they just hate the community or what?
@dreadroberts5627
@dreadroberts5627 Год назад
Doesn't matter how dedicated you are, if you break the ToS. I don't fault Psyonix for punishing them. Where Psyonix DOES mess up is in the lack of proper communication and transparency. This leads to extra, unnecessary controversy, that could've been avoided.
@yurilopes420
@yurilopes420 Год назад
@@dreadroberts5627 i honestly dont get these people defending ACTUAL scammers and thiefs lmao im not defending anyone, but regardless of what or who the company is, you're duplicating and stealing items, also buying accounts is not allowed... idk how these dudes be fucking mental gymnasting around it, its just wrong, and they deserve to be banned, period
@iggyiggz1999
@iggyiggz1999 Год назад
Maybe all these dedicated players should stop breaking the Terms and conditions of the game they are so dedicated to.
@aidanconrad6117
@aidanconrad6117 Год назад
@@yurilopes420 Keep in mind that Psyonix hasn't come forward and actually told these players what is going on. Most of these players did the whole alpha boost thing a long time ago with no problems whatsoever. Now Psyonix permanently bans them, ENDING any hope they had at a career for an offense that is effectively a victimless crime, long after they did it. We don't even know for sure if this is actually why they got banned, because Psyonix never bothered to tell us. Sure what they did wasn't necessarily ethical, but Psyonix handled this in about the worst possible way that they could have.
@aidanconrad6117
@aidanconrad6117 Год назад
@@yurilopes420 Also, I'm not defending scammers or thieves, as nothing was stolen and nobody was scammed.
@YoWindys
@YoWindys Год назад
Nice video and editing. I like this alot
@mvphunter415
@mvphunter415 Год назад
Yeah when I started playing rocket league, it kept making me go against bots in both ranked and casual
@PluhRS6
@PluhRS6 Год назад
I just joined bubble about 2 days ago. I talked to one of the gcs and he played nexto and apparently also got banned permanently. Then 5 days later he was unbanned.
@tele_gram-Covert_goblue
@tele_gram-Covert_goblue Год назад
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@lionsfanvickery6010
@lionsfanvickery6010 Год назад
I ran into 4 bots today in ones in champ 3.
@Rycros
@Rycros Год назад
hey, great stuff! really enjoy it. suggestion though; see if you can stabilize your camera or attach it off your desk, had a lot of shaking. again though, good stuff!
@gavinandthings5123
@gavinandthings5123 Год назад
I'm around c3 and I've ran into a few bots, it's insane
@maxstuckert
@maxstuckert Год назад
I played nexto so many times yesterday (checked replays to verify). It’s literally insane. I don’t even want to play ranked anymore because it’s NUTS.
@juderees6101
@juderees6101 Год назад
i see so many people in low gc complaining abt playing bots its hard to tell whose bullshitting or not
@boubourziporc
@boubourziporc Год назад
Champ 1-2 here. Complaining as well. tried to post on Reddit butt the mods remove the videos, screenshots due to witch hunting...
@reapersasmr5483
@reapersasmr5483 Год назад
Glad to hear for the most part , do feel bad if any people got banned that didn't need to, but glad they are weeding out the junk !
@digitalexile_
@digitalexile_ Год назад
So far in my road to GC in 1's I typically run across these bots once every 5-6 games. Its really bad. A good give away is the kick offs, the bots cant speed flip and typically dont dodge on kickoffs. I'm sure they're working on something over at Psyonix, what a wild time to be in the Rocket League scene
@Easy-dx8qx
@Easy-dx8qx Год назад
i get them like every other match in c2 c3 ones
@digitalexile_
@digitalexile_ Год назад
@@Easy-dx8qx Yeah man just play a couple more, and it was like that for me :/ it really makes the game not enjoyable
@Easy-dx8qx
@Easy-dx8qx Год назад
@@digitalexile_ yea i just play 2s its not fun just getting a win, the bots are just freelo in ones
@sugarchops118
@sugarchops118 Год назад
lessgo finally caught your videos early!
@Friendofox
@Friendofox Год назад
You know, at least the message was more descriptive than what I was banned for in Apex Legends 3 years ago out of completely nowhere. My ban message, to this day, still reads: User has been banned: Banned
@Gaiusnerva
@Gaiusnerva Год назад
The sad part is when ur doing that for fun with a common topper a bunch of ppl have and u still get perma banned
@ckisamazing
@ckisamazing Год назад
everytime i find a new game it gets overrun by cheaters and the community breaks itself within 2 days
@Brandon84J
@Brandon84J Год назад
I've definitely gotten on sites and gotten goal explosions, skins, wheels, blah blah.... I knew it was a matter of time until they started cracking down on all that
@ObsessionTheCat
@ObsessionTheCat Год назад
I really don't understand why psyonix wont make better trading system and item shop so you don't need to try to get items in wrong ways. Bigger shop selection and lower prices would bring them lot more money in anyways.
@onenacho1237
@onenacho1237 Год назад
I spent an hour getting to the finals of a bronze tournament yesterday, only to end up playing a couple of gc smurfs in the final. That to me is the biggest issue I have with rocket league.
@pandamonium47
@pandamonium47 Год назад
im pretty sure i played two bots last night. i was in lower mmr like 680s but one of them let me go 15-0 (minus some goals I gave at the end to watch the "player") and never really celebrated it was insane
@tbonecash1229
@tbonecash1229 Год назад
i wish i woulda thought of this
@michigan_supercars6569
@michigan_supercars6569 Год назад
As someone who's trying to get up there in Rocket League (currently Plat) the whole bot situation is rather intimidating.
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@tele_gram-Covert_goblue Год назад
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@Arithryka
@Arithryka Год назад
I wonder if the people who borrowed an alpha boost were used to launder the alpha boost from the scammer accounts? scammer has alpha boost, trades it to someone as a "borrow," reports that they were scammed, tells the borrower to trade it back to a different account, and gets the un-tradeable alpha boost on the original account.
@kcwi6012
@kcwi6012 Год назад
Between nexto and the insane server lag issues depending on your ISP, it's gotten pretty trash
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@Nrrbiii
@Nrrbiii Год назад
Makes a lot of sense, a similar situation happened in the fn community with a big YT getting banned because his main account he played on for years was originally bought for og items which violated epic’s tos
@yeahmate8961
@yeahmate8961 Год назад
The most shocking thing here is that people are willing to pay 1k - 5k for a certain flame to come out the back of their car... IN A FREE GAME. That is just insane.
@JacobSkatezz
@JacobSkatezz Год назад
What's more insane is how psyonix is ok with that it's not like their making any money their literally allowing others to profit off their game they should put alpha boost in the item shop for like 1000 credits or something they would make so much money
@RyreKS
@RyreKS Год назад
I’ve played 3 instances of nexto in my ranked games, around 1500-1600 mmr, in 2s it’s still winnable just very hard if you ever have a 1v1 scenario with the bot
@Thurzin_hz
@Thurzin_hz Год назад
I don't even follow Rocket league content but you explain the same as wirtual A Loved it
@AhmadHafez01
@AhmadHafez01 Год назад
Bro I love your content
@lotrdude13
@lotrdude13 Год назад
It's funny only because a couple years ago my friend pranked me (he even made a video about it) where he took all my good items from my account and then I thought I was actually hacked and lost all my stuff so I submitted a support ticket. Psyonix literally told me they couldn't help me and wouldn't give me replacement items. Luckily I got them back shortly after because my friend gave them back to me, but it's interesting just how easy it was for these players to get the alpha boosts.
@aceofjaays2447
@aceofjaays2447 Год назад
I played 2 bots yesterday i think, in C2. It was in 3s however and there were two of them that had the same name, just one number difference. The other guy in their party had a youtube gamertag. The bots had perfect ground dribbling and flicks, and had perfect 50s. Strange
@brianliang3521
@brianliang3521 Год назад
Yeah I just recently came across a bot player in ranked 1v1s, played a few casual 2v2s with him, really interesting experience
@Anthonyosaro
@Anthonyosaro Год назад
Damn. I should've thought of that...
@ProfitMonarchRL
@ProfitMonarchRL Год назад
“They don’t just say sucks to suck to victims of scammers, then just move on”. Yeah. Tell that to my TW Reapers that got scammed off of me with the ghost item bug a few months back lmao. Put in a support ticket and basically got told they “couldn’t do anything, but here’s some safe trading tips”.
@slevsgrandma6512
@slevsgrandma6512 Год назад
These bots are crazy. I don’t really know how they come in ranked?
@JUNKO____
@JUNKO____ Год назад
I feel like people often forget that adding/removing/tweaking anything in a video game causes a butterfly effect very often. "make the bad guys go away, computer!" "what makes them bad?" "these things!" "On it." and now players that just HAPPEN to qualify for that ban are permabanned based on a set of identifiers that were set too vague by humans and instantly executed by a bot or whatever across their ENTIRE player base. Sound familiar?
@TheMisterEpic
@TheMisterEpic Год назад
Psyonix support kind of dumb here, people duplicated csgo items using the exact same method years ago, and it was a massive ordeal, surprised they even gave the items back tbh
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