The Rule Change that Made Allen Iverson Even More Dominant & Got Ty Lue PAID 

Big facts, The NBA had started to ban hand checking back in 1979, however it the rules language wasn't clear, and players were hand checking until 2004.

Amen. Thanks for teaching the young fellas.

Took the words outta my mouth🎯

? Huh. They was handcheckn. Pushin. Till the 2000s. What u mean ppl dont kno NBA history. What did u do. Google the year and rule or somethn. U must didnt watch the NBA at all. Brian is wrong and kinda sound like a hater. Sayin it made it easier for Iverson. No. The rule wasnt for Iverson. It was for all. That's some hatin shit. It's like sayin the 3 point arch made it easier for steph curry. As if everybody cant do it.

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FACTS.

FIDDDACTZ!!!

😅😅😅😅😂😂😂 "His Head band was around his mouth " 😂😂😂😂😂

Those role players were defending and playmaking - two things Iverson never did. Show some respect where it's earned, especially Mutombo. Iverson was great scorer and fearless but he didn't do it alone. Especially it's hard to get into rhythm and look good on offense when you are AI's teammate. Look what Chris Webber had to say about him and he was the main guy of one of the strongest 2000s team - Kings - who would have won a title or two if not for Lakers.

His role players were MISSING OPEN SHOTS AND FREE THROWS that entire series. Wric snow had countless midrange shots from the freethrow he missed. Especially in the clutch. Lynch came in the game & attempted a layup that hit the bottom on the rim. I could go on but you dont know whats up..@@lunacy5510

Theo Ratliff gets no love. They sold him out. Iverson got hit because he didn't have Theo's back.

@@lunacy5510 the entire year those role players were missing open shots. Nothing changed in the finals. Most of his teammates were known FOR DEFENSE, not putting up points. Easy to blame AI for the teammates not showing up and scoring.

You can do a better job if you can play defense as it was intended in basketball

So how come the Nuggets didn't do better with a reasonably young Iverson, and got better when they traded him for Chauncey? AI fitted better on teams where he was the main man with crap players.

@@kanajingly8957 this is true

Yep. AI was one of my favorite players when I discovered basketball via mainly Iverson highlights. But it was the same with Webber. Like sure Webber was after some injuries and past his physical prime but he still was the best and most successful AI's teammate at that point and he despised playing with Iverson. Iverson was good but not as amazing as people paint him to be. He has critical flaws in his game like being inefficient (key word inefficient there is noting wrong if you are efficient ball hog like MJ, Luka or SGA), took tons of terrible shot, wasn't a good shooter despite being only scorer and was a bad defender. All though his quickness, athleticism, fearlessness was one of the kind but as those qualities deetiolated due to age and him not being very professional outside of game (like taking care of his body and working to improve skills) so did his game and he quickly fade away in Denver. Billups instantly took the team to the next level and for the first time make that Nuggets team competitive. He just destroyed my Hornets with CP3 in his prime (before his knee injury next season) so hard it was soul crushing lol @@kanajingly8957

No one needed to try to stop Iverson. His incredibly bad shot selection did it for them.

You literally just described Kyrie Irving..... nobody is unstoppable.... TF do y'all be talking about ... video games....I'm 43 I saw AI in highschool on....bad boy for sure.....but no he still would be cold...but he wouldn't be scoring 50 every night just like with all these soft rules catered to offense you still don't see 50 every night.

@@cuttycut2324 CORRECT KYRIE IRVING FANBOY! You would be ABSOLUTELY COLD. You can't even score 50 without anyone defending you coz YOU CAN'T BALL 😂

@@cuttycut2324 NOPE! You're wrong KID. There's a BIG DIFFERENCE. ALLEN IVERSON is way better than KYRIE IRVING. REAL TALK 🗣

@@ricsarmiento661 He wasn't... Kyrie can do everything Iverson could.... with a deeper scoring bag. Iverson can't shoot like Kyrie.

@@ricsarmiento661 this sounds like a some shit a 12 yr old said at a cpu in his mom's basement... 😂 Dude how old are you making 3rd grade insults cuz someone doesn't agree with you....🤔 😂

He raised the floor, but lowered the ceiling. Great player on crap teams, bad player on already good teams.

​@kanajingly8957 huh? Wtf yall niggas be talking about?

Facts.

Handchecking was totally outlawed in “04” but they started calling fouls for it after the Rockets second title run which ran defensive players like Derrick Harper out the league. Teams like Knicks, Sonics, Pacers and Miami suffered greatly and tried appealing the foul calls to NBA office until it was outlawed completely in “04”. Jordan would’ve averaged 45-50 if it was outlawed before completely “04”.

@@dameianjones6641 Yes, this is what people are missing. Handchecking from the backcourt baseline to the opposite foul line became prohibited in 1995, which means that for perimeter players guarding other perimeter players from the foul line out, it became more difficult and more hand check fouls started being called in that area, which is what Brian Shaw is referring to.

@@back2back379 Facts Bro! Great Comment! I love coming across people on here that know what the fuck they’re talking about. Now everyone wants to be Skip Bayless (and his talentless ass has no fucking clue) to since stats are on 2K that they know everything about the game.

Fax

Hand checking has been illegal since 1979 in the NBA. The league tried to enforce the rule in the 94-95 season, but since players were still hand checking due to the ambiguity of the rules language and refs not lacking consistent enforcing, the NBA finally eliminated hand checking in 2004. So B. Shaw ain't capping. It just wasn't enforced consistently.

Ooo scores alot with no rings means zero

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Naw, you gotta remember too, they also started allowing zone defense around that time too. Iverson didn’t have the greatest jump shot in the world. All of this played a large part in what looked to be iverson’s sudden decline

AI was a good passing lane thief.

...iwas 16 watching that Sixers squad didn't stand a chance against that Laker Team no matter who was guarding Iverson

No, that's NOT defense ! Ex: In Football a tougher sport ,( Linemen can push but NO holding), (wide receivers) can hold each other

Facts

Right. He usually is on point, but at that time the game was still very physical and had hand checking. It was a very good time in the NBA before all the team ups and crazy 3 jacking. Was a balanced game imo.

Nobody talks about this, but Mark Cuban lobbied 4 an end 2 it after the way Detroit guarded Kobe in the Finals. LA had their run, so there was no pushback, but it was evident 2 me the Pistons got away w lot of fouls while LA wasn't allowed 2 play the same defense. The rules were changed & it would come back 2 haunt Mark in the '06 Finals against D-Wade.

I see u

They might have called fouls more against ai defenders. And changed it later

No ! You can't be holding a player because you can't guard them ! Learn from the LION they most NEVER try to take down a big strong water buffaloe ALONE ! Team work & Schemes !

Offensively yes 100%. But defense is half of the game and he was far from elite on that side.

@@awesomereviews1561 I agree but he also made up for it by being a threat in the passing lanes. In an isolation he couldn’t stop anybody but he managed to make himself into a plus defender with his tactics and for a 6 footer who weighed 165 soaking wet, he managed to avoid being a liability.

Lol I always love some ether being served ..

Iverson doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Steve "Mr. Efficiency" Nash. And Nash didn't win MVP because of his _amazing_ ability to break down his defender one-on-one. He had no skills at doing that so hand checking didn't have much effect on his numbers. He won it because his passing AND shooting made his team much much better.

@@mj23goat3 that team would’ve been fine with any other pass 1st point guard .. Marion and Amare was already who they were add Joe Johnson, Barbosa and Boris diaw and q rich , those already highly skilled players .. if we being honest as good as Nash was for that team he’s also the reason they couldn’t win a chip because he was the worst defender on the team and they had to keep tryna his him on defense against all aggressive guards out west .. you plug Kidd , Andre miller , mike Bibby in there with that talent they win multiple championships.. so if you wanna give credit to Nash for offensively making them a juggernaut you have to accept the fact him not being able to guard his position counterpart the major issue .. they literally had to take a 10 plus rebounder and their best defender in Marion to having him guard the point guards who were torching Nash .. most overrated mvp of all time ..

@@mj23goat3 last but not least they play different positions.. A.i Carried nobody’s to a finals , while Nash failed to get the most talented teams to any finals . No way that dallas team or the suns don’t make the finals .

"that team would’ve been fine with any other pass 1st point guard..." Wait, so now JKidd isn't a pass first PG? Someone should probably inform the league office of this since the NBA website has Kidd at second all-time in assists. JK was there droppin' 10 apg with Marion by his side and they only made it to the semifinals one season and didn't even get out the first round the next. After Kidd left Marbury was there droppin' damn near 9 dimes a game alongside Marion _and_ Stoudemire and they still couldn't get out the first round of the playoffs. Starting to sense a pattern here? But the _very first year_ Steve runs the show they make it all the way to the Western Conference Finals. Then, just to show it wasn't a fluke, he leads them back to the WCF again the next year. Pretty obvious who the difference maker was. "...if we being honest as good as Nash was for that team he’s also the reason they couldn’t win a chip because he was the worst defender on the team..." Do you really want to rep zero-defense-playin' no-chip-havin' Iverson and then talk smack on Nash for having the same flaws in his resume? And if you actually go back and look at those series (I was watching them live) Nash outplayed the other team's PG in pretty much every one of them, including Tony Parker. So, his marginal defense definitely wasn't the reason for them not winning a chip. In conclusion, Nash is absolutely deserving of _both_ of his MVP's. In fact, he should have won it a third year in a row because the season they gave it to Nowitzki, Dirk promptly punked out in the first round of the playoffs whereas at least Steve got his team to the semis.

I would say the NBA was made better and was great until around 2014 when every team started driving and kicking out every possession to take away the Center and slower players The problem was there were playera who definitely couldn't shoot shooting and teams who built their team around having a big man that because unbearable to watch (except Memphis)

@@troylee4196 I’m not mad at that take. I’ll add, in the next 5-10 years the game will be completely position-less. Then it will evolve again.

​@@mississippi_burning no such thing as position less when it comes to basketball. Stop repeating things you hear from the media and think for yourself. There will always be Embiid, Jokic, Giannis type players and there's will always be Curry, Dame, CP3 type players who cannot guard them and have to play another position.

@@xDreMack use your context clues. I don’t need media to tell me anything. Watch the game evolve for yourself. In the 90’s NBA you would’ve never seen a big man bring the ball up the court. Even Scottie Pippen was an anomaly as a stretch 4. That’s what I mean by position-less. Traditional roles have changed and will continue to change.

@@mississippi_burning bro what're you talking about? Wilt, Hakeem, Sabonis and Orlando Shaq would always bring the ball up and Pippen wasn't a stretch 4 he was a point forward, like Magic was his first few years. The style of play has changed but the positions and the roles of those positions are never going to go away.

Facts....

Offense wise yes. But not defense in any shape or form.

@VtecTougeMonster33 absolutely better defensively as well. Love Dumars but a 6'2 guard isn't stopping any of these perimeter scorers now. These guys are quicker, longer, more athletic and more skilled on defense. It's just that stopping today's scorers is hard

They lost 1 game to Milwaukee

This comment oozes your lack of ball knowledge. Shooting 43 percent at barely 6ft while being double and tripled every night cause your the sole source of offense for your team for over a decade playing in the league before hand checking and floor spacing is not bad AT ALL! Stats never tell the whole story

@@Rodrigo4391 He NEVER got double or triple teamed. Why the hell would they do that on 6 foot point guard who was quick? That would never work. 42.5% is what he shot and 31.3% on 3s. Those are TERRIBLE percentages. He just chucked it up a million times per game.

Not hand checking the forearm was still around

@descepticon9213 We need to know when this rule went into effect bro 💯

No it wasn’t Harper was called for hand heckling regularly after the rule change Just watch the 94 Finals

Sports illustrated said the NBA got rid of hand checking in 2004, so this whole take is cap

Some of you just don't know your NBA history. In '95, they began to prohibit hand checking, by implementing a rule that said you couldn't hand check from the backcourt baseline to the opposite foul line. That's the rule that Shaw is referring to here. He should've been more specific, but to clearly to him it felt like that that rule change made it so that hand checking was not being allowed nearly as much. Then in 2004, hand checking was removed completely.

AI was the only offensive option in Philly. So he was taking a lot of contested shots. His field goal percentage improved when he got to Denver, since defenses couldn't key in on him with Melo being there.

@@blacklightdrew Yes it came all the way up to 45%. Do you think that's a good percentage?

@@blacklightdrew Also, career .313 from three. Basically, AI had no conscience. Not saying he wasn't a very good player, but unstoppable? He was stopped a whole lot.

@@KH-no7ph I wouldn’t say stopped, since he the defensive strategy was to turn him into a volume shooter, for the opposing team to win. So AI’s percentages suffered, also smaller guards that weren’t great shooters had lower field goal percentages.

@@KH-no7ph Yes 45% is a good field goal percentage for a smaller guard. There’s a reason why Kobe said why the league should be grateful that Allen Iverson is not 6’5”.