"The Sacrifice" Warframe | (Chats, News, Reacts) 

Turns out the secret to controlling the Warframes is basic human empathy, something that is so completely alien to the Orokin that they did not even consider it.

And now Lephantis's quote "Why do you destroy us? We are your flesh.", is explained :D

3:12:35 The Sacrifice 4:46:05 Chimera Prologue 5:05:30 Rhino Codex Lore 5:13:20 Erra 5:26:10 The Maker 5:40:22 Ropalolyst 6:50:35 Octavia's Anthem 7:42:44 Discovering Ordis' Lore

Sacrifice was hands down my favorite quest. The emotion they are able to pull from you and the realization of everything is just unmatched.

The Skiajati sword makes you go invisible for a few seconds after you do a finisher attack on enemies. Excalibur and Excalibur Umbra's blind opens enemies for finisher attacks. Finisher attacks also ignore enemy defense. Also, you are supposed to get a mission complete scene just like with every quest, saying quest complete with a backdrop. It didn't play for you, for some reason. Blame bugframe i guess.

As the echoes of Ballas say in the Second Dream: "These are not Dax Soldiers. These are Golems, posessed by Devil Minds."

Orokin made the infestation, couldnt control it and got screwed. Orokin made the Sentients, they gained sentient and rebelled. Orokin made the warframes, couldnt control them again and had to lock them up. Orokin exploited the tennos, thought they had control but the children+warframe slaughtered them. The Orokins were bad in the sense that they are pretty much evil and selfish but they were also bad at making things that supposedly benefit them lol.😂

4:16:12 Instead of going there by himself, Hunhow sent his Daughter to Finish the tenno. Who also Presumably was a Sentient? Theres a reason there are so many MIMICS in this quest

umbra has quickly become one of my favorites once i figured out a good to keep him alive, love popping out as an operator or jumping in to a necro mech and watching umbra go crazy backing me up :)

For what happened to Orokin - look for the Stalker descript in the Codex.

Orokin are humans, over time people started calling the ruling caste of the Orokin empire with "Orokin" as well.

The whole "umbra is the only one" like is that canon? Saying that is also kinda misleading. My point is that there was a Main Blueprint/experiment, a new Strain of infestation itself from which primes, in theyr orokin dressing, and base versions are either Grown or Infected. The beauty is that that doesn´t make the frames we play "shells", it´s cell-division. The same Body in a different frame.

Never twigged before, but this is probably an Evangelion reference too. If there one phrase to sum up Warframe's lore it's: *_The Truth is a Lie!_*

Maybe I'm the only one that didn't have a problem with the Ropalolyst? IDK, I saw 3 big things on the sides, and cables to go to them, so I said, that must have something to do with the fight, after that, i just attacked, saw no damage, used operator because he is an Eidolon, and then the hardest part was to know that I had to jump on it, I got lucky jumping near it while going back to the middle, console was more or less obvious (if you notice it, I've seen some people that didn't know there was a console at first), so when Salad-V speaks, I just went there to check... It's not very well pointed what you have to do, but it's also not so bad that you would be lost... But I can see that they need better pointers on a few boss fights, I might have got lucky with spotting the console, and just got lucky to jump near it while returning to the middle platform, so the "x" to jump on him popped up, but I can remember a few boss fights that also are a bit annoying the first times, when you don't know what you're doing, most people never notice tho, since if you go public, people will just carry you through the first time, and you will notice what they're doing, but that shouldn't be needed.

5:22:00 natah is a sentient mimic who took the form of margulis after margulis was killed for taking in the Tenno. So in short the lotus is natah but she is not margulis just someone who took her form to spy on the orokin. 5:37:00 and man the best compound Endo farm is definitely railjack missions. You can lvl up everything plus your intrinsics while a lot getting Mr points and farming gear. You can scrap any un used railjack parts and bps for Endo 7:45:00 here we go ordis’s lore one of the best hidden secrets in the game. It really puts a new perspective on why ordis’s mind is so fractured. Ballas made ordin into an immortal cephalon as punishment forced to serve the ones he hated while having his personality changed to love them. That’s why ordis has these fits of anger that’s the real Ordin coking through. I’m really hoping that DE continue on with ordis’s story through a quest in the future. It seems as the story progresses more and more of Odin comes out of ordis, so is he slowing undoing his brainwashing?. It would be cool to have a quest where his personality fully splits kind like otak and loid. Having Odin uploaded himself into a new body and become a temporary enemy with the docile ordis still being on your side

So, The original Prime frames, the ones Ballas sometimes talks to in trailers, were transformed. All the subsequence frames of that model are cloned, which is where all yours come from. Remember the Lephantis hive, _"We are your flesh, why do you defile us."_

Its a heated Debate but primes may not likely be the OG frames but rather the sales pitch model, Ballas does present each frame in the trailer as if he was trying to sell it to the council.

Since so much of your chat seemed confused and because the community as a whole seems to not generally understand this, I will give you the lorebits as best as I know it to the nature of the warframes sentience or lack there of: Before the tenno were discovered the warframes were pioletless bio drones with no tranceference bolts or anything, these pioletless warframes weren't always monsters and many went out in spectacular ways like original atlas or original mirage, others could still be alive to this day theoretically. The problem the orokin had was they just had no control and warframes if given enough time would rebel. Then the tenno were discovered and the original warframes seemed to respect and follow them even when not transference controlled, meaning they even allined themselves with the tenno and the lotus when they slaughtered the orokin. Most warframes that were built before the tenno were at some point conscious and self-acting but these were NOT the prime versions. The primes came way after and many of the first warframes had to prove themselves quality before they were made prime, others who were built after were never consious and often started as primes. Either way the warframes we piolet today are but a few of many copies of the originals that are mindless and have tranceference bolts. Umbra was made way later than ANY of this, they were purposefully made to be consious, but they have a tranceference bolt like non-consious frames. This was ballas's way of punishing umbra for his discovery of ballas's betrayal. This point of lore seems to be a huge point of confusion even today when talking about recent lore like dante, people are getting confused about dante's personality and how he helped with Albreact's research, not remembering original frames were consious and the dante we read about was likely one of these 1st gen frames before their research consumed and killed them. The thing that seems to spark this confusion is that one scene from the second dream, which is the only outlier to our current understanding of modern frames, and considering its one scene in a long cinematic quest, I personally chuck this up to a moment of thoughtless writing or a mistake, but maybe it will be explained later.

No hunhow is not the og warframe. Umbra was a Dax soldier who found out about Ballis leaking Intell to the sentients and ballad found out. His "teatment" was infecting the Dax soldier until he became umbra.

Seeing you struggle with the ropalolyst made me redo the fight solo in spite of already having all the wisp parts. It's a puzzle boss for sure, while having a good amp damage helps out, though I had an issue with the dumb bird walking off the platform repeatingly.

_Soylent green is people!_ This is why we love Warframe's story. After such a long status quo. You find out they're empty shells, ... but one moves alone to save you. Then you find out the truth was also a lie. Now think about what it means that the Corpus need obedience collars for their robotics, in an age where AI is the greatest taboo ... and there are so many organ-ic "reclaimation" squad on Fortuna.

5:22:30 To understand this you need to understand not all Orokin use Continuity. Ballas Did I think and chose that new blue body of his.

Did you notice that ordis when talking too us is a cube with cracks? I believe it simbolises the true personality showing itself

It would be really sick if we got another Umbra-style Warframe that was controlled by Ordis while you were in Operator mode.

Tbf the random boulder really f*cked me up when I saw it too Oh tips for later, Arbitrations are end-game ish missions that have a great drop rate for ayatan sculptures. Also good credit farm. Those will be your biggest source of endo. Can get 5000+ regular endo in drops and rewards ON TOP of getting the sculptures. I'd walk away with close to 10k endo from each run

Oh man enjoyed the rewatch I missed it but glad to see you going through the story and making it through . I would like you to stay and keep going and collect the Warframe story and grind . But man 6:43:00 this story hurts and sadness. Am sorry 😢 this happened to you

5:25:30 Other way around. Natah was a Sentient Infiltrator send back from Tau to Origin system ahead of the Sentient Revenge Invasion. She fucked a lot of shit up, but was captured. After the Orokin flailed around alot failing to make weapons to fight the Sentients (which were hacking all their super-tech), the Orokin weaponized the Zariman children by putting them in control of their failed Warframe project. But the Orokin needed a way to control and direct the "Tenno" as the joining of warframe and Ten-Zero children were nicknamed. "Hey!" They thought. "The Zariman brats yearn still for their mummy dearest, Margulis. And we have a Sentient Mimic right here... Lets 1+1=2, and win everything for ever!" You already have hints as to how *that* ended...

I thought about this, and I think what the game really needs more than anything is cool and dynamic introductions to each of the characters the game uses later on. I really do love Kela De Thaym and Tyl Regor and all those dudes: they're quirky and cool, but they get dropped on you without warning or with very little context. So much of the game outside of the quests is too fast-passed. Teshin and Simaris are the same. They're both incredibly powerful allies that have bearing on the main story, but the first missions involving them like The Strange and Natah sort of... slide them in. I really want to see these entities of the Warframe universe in their element from afar as an initial introduction. Like maybe have Kela drop into Ceres with a cinematic flair, introduce herself, challenge you to find her on Sedna, then leave. Do this with most/all of your major players, and suddenly the world starts to come together sooner than the main questline.

The Sacrifice still makes me cry...

I've only watched a bit of this channel, but I'm liking this video strictly on the spiritbox shirt he's wearing.

Hey due loving seeing you react to all the warframe stories! May i ask, what kind of mic are you using?

And this choice with Umbra shows that Light is not necessarily Good. Wrath is not necessarily the 'Good' reaction... but it IS bright, flaring, and powerful.

The New War explains how those Prime that are lore impossible to exist, exist.

No hate, LegendaryDrops, but that Orokin Cipher was some Game-Journalist level skills.

4:42:30 "Don't talk to me or my Warframe ever again."

4:01:19 the truth was revealed in all its horror. Hope you're ok little bro. Stay strong, more lore bombs to come.✨

Ahhhhh the soylent green moment. Welcome to warframe buddy Side note. Do you ever use the tips section when looki gat your warframe abilities?

duviri is the place where tenno's space ship was stuck. its in the void.

Two cool things you can do next stream is watch the other nightwaves to see why people are so mad that the new ones are nora's mix and if you are maxed in rep with loid and deimos, behind loid in his room are some really cool entries (5 levels with the family + 3 with loid) lore wise I saw a coment really good saying how f'ed up the orokin is bc Ballas said: "And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain." to just badly explained the word "empathy". They were so evil that the word empathy was not in their vocabulary. Also i like the perrin sequence's quest :(

he needs to do glassmaker and then listen to grandmothers Halloween stories since he did ordis lore now

If u think the Ropapolyst fight is hard without proper explanation.. U should try day one raids in Destiny 2 XD

6:11:40 Yes! Someone said it! yeah they are not that good, but they been improving a little. I hope they do some thing big someday.

NO Ballas is not space dad, Wally is.

MY DUDE, i have 4k hours on the game and i only find out now you can press A in the ship and open ship in gear!

Best reaction to what warframe are

side note about sentients: Spoiler below dont click more if want avoid spoiler: sentient are synthetic clones copies of living humans, where as cephalons are humans turned by force and suppressed to be support systems AI. so yes warframe has pretty dark lore and thats just the surface of all the mess happened. and the ayatan sculpture are memories of the orokin murders , war crimes and public executions.

The helmuth is why your warframe pulled the sword out of its chest.

Primes are not originals, not exclusively. Some primes ARE the original versions, with downgraded versions cloned for more common use. Other frames started as normal frames and were granted a Prime version when it was felt that they were worthy of such. Varsia at the back of Maroo's explains this as part of her interaction chat. Like Teshin, she was a Dax soldier. Also, New War is a slogfest. Depending on if you get bugged, you may have to quit the quest at certain moments and replay the entire chapter for that character over again. I had that happen with Teshin's part. Twice.

7:07:45 Outer Wilds is an absolute masterpiece of videogame storytelling and design, but if you truly are the kind of people who turns his brain off the moment there in no combat I fear it might be difficult for you to engage

Seeing as things are heating up quick, and chat is now bombarding you with "watchthiswatchthiswatchthis," I feel like it's a good time to mention something, this is not a spoiler, just something helpful. I can't remember if it's during or after the Whispers in the Walls quest, but around then...you gain access to a computer terminal that quite literally summarizes most, if not all, of the major history and narrative points up until then, in the most concise way possible. As you're seeing, the quests are coming much faster now, and since someone gifted you the Necramech, and your Railjack is operational, you finished the Ropalolyst fight...New War is around the corner, and Whispers is right after that. Veilbreaker and Angels are good too, they both open up new activities and rewards, but that's the major narrative path. TLDR: You're almost to a point where every single thing will make more sense. At least for now. Lotta stuff even seasoned players don't know how they'll play out. But you'll be plenty caught up for Tennocon.

Did he do duviri already? I'm confused

4:28:00 Daily Sorties for everyone's favorite BUTTPLUG PRIME statue. :lmao:

I have to say the expression on your face when it all clicked was priceless and you actually looked like you were about to cry. Many players couldn't hold it in and admit they cried during this quest. Warframe only gets darker from here and they only just started chapter 2 of the story. Once you finish The New War and Angels of Zariman then the Duviri Paradox will make sense. Frankly Duviri should have been placed at the halfway point of The New War but it would have made that quest 10 hours long and also wasn't fully complete when New War launched so Duvirir was added later but it's out of context cos DE didn't know where to put it. Everyone agrees Duviri should come after New War but New players complained cos they got hyped to play due to Duviris marketing and didn't want to wait so DE moved it to the start of the game and then had to move it again because players complained again that they didn't understand what was going on. Now Duviri is kinda in the wind so DE just said fuck it play it whenever because we're not moving it again. DE even removed half the prerequisites for quests so people could reach the quests faster cos new players complained too much and wanted everything now. It's why older players like me hide some many things from new players as we had to wait 6 months to a year for each new quest. Like you said in another video players are used to getting everything in the first hours of the game and DE have tried to accommodate them but then players moan that they don't have any guidance without realising that it's done on purpose so people learn things as they are presented but too many new people want everything now. The time gates the quest positions are all DEs attempts to say learn this now before you get here or you will be lost after this point but too many new players moaned. Older players are more patient because we had to wait and learn but new players ignore things to rush the story then struggle, blame the game and quit. You have learned the lessons faster because you know there's something more ahead but new people want everything given to them right away, because they have been conditioned by other games to think everything is there at the start just like most modern games. I've seen your opinion change since you're first video as you realised DE did everything on purpose to make people wait.

There's a zombie inside *every one*

JADE LIGHT!! 4:10:18

Man, I think you should've waited a bit before doing Chimera. There's a lot of background lore and context you're still missing, going straight into The New War is gonna be way more confusing without it. Going straight to the Ropalolyst was also a mistake, since that fight relies on you having a fully upgraded amp/operator and a team with good comms. also your chat was lying, the New War cinematic teaser has no spoilers because none of what happens in that trailer actually happens. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that trailer was a marketing bait and switch when it first came out.

This quest really cemented Ballas being the absolute WORST. He took pleasure in torturing Umbra while he was slowly losing himself to infection.

4:02:20 we all did that 😂

I dont think that the boss fights like Ropalolyst or Eidolon are bad design. They just bad explained. Its 90% of "try to figure out how to do it". But when you look at other games boss fights then how they are explained? You have two schools. Vulnerable: So boss has big life bar and any your hit deal dmg. So only thing that you should do is not to take damage. So boss mechanics are just his attacks. And there is Unvulnerable: So boss dont take damage anywhere. Beside few points that usually glows like freshly liked dog balls. Sometimes glowy part are avaible always sometimes you need to trigger them. For exaple biggest war mech in Horizon zero dawn has glowing radiators that come out after few his attacks. Warframe in Ropal and Eidolon fight dont do any of this. They are unvulnerable. You have to somehow destroy their shields. Then shoot them into specific but NOT GLOWY parts. And then you can somehow deal dmg. Those two fights are more puzzle than just boss fight. Is this bad? I dont think so. Did every raid in MMOs is always "oh i know everything from the start how to do it"? If yes then that sounds boring. About Glast gambit Index part... i dont know people are ret... or what? This is so fn easy but everyone have problems with that bc missions says "WIN BUT NOT WITH TO MUCH POINTS". Your story about robery is fn crazy. You sound like you took this very chill. If i would be on your place and those guys would play dumb i would say "Ok i believe you. You are my friends." and i would took my phone and call police that my hause was robed. If that was breaking ties for you so snitching on them in front of them shouldnt be a problem. About Ordis pealing shards... basicaly ordis lobotomise himself and scattered fragments of his memories. And this is what you finds everywhere on missions.

www.youtube.com/@TheDsIEGE he is a very good lore expert on Warframe

4:20:13 Yep. Super Fucked Up. And now you know why the whole WF community HATES Ballas with the fury of ONE THOUSAND SUPERNOVAS.

You can wear Umbra's scarf and ornaments on skins and still be edgy. 😊 Also, it's okay to change his colours since he is healed now. 😋

Is Natah the Daughter of Hunhow

"ChatGPT4 talking to ChatGPT4" :D lol And yes, Subnautica (especially the first one) is great. I did like the 2nd one as well. The 2nd one has better systems, but the story and the immersion is not as good.

Why emote only on twitch while RU-vid is free to spoil is beyond my comprehension.

Maybe just watch a Lore Video Oh and before the New War ,talk to the family in the Necralisk first i'll explain why soon

Some clarification: THE ORIGINAL warframes were made with infested people. Most warframes you wield are made out of replicas of those original warframes, those were never people. Those never had a conscience. That's also why they don't have memories or pilot themselves. Umbra here is the one exception, in the quest you are getting your hands an original warframe, not a replica. Just like the ones you deal with in the chroma and mirage quests.

at the one cooked chatter complaining he doesn't know how to mod: You know why a player 200 hours in has no clue about modding? Because the game never tells you nor makes you engage with the system. They know it's too much to drop on a new player so they don't even bother anymore after putting a tutorial button with basic information lol

Just a little food for thought without handing out any spoilers. There is a central idea weaving through warframe's story, which has started with the War Within, and is reflected in many different aspects and characters in the game, the Tenno, Cephalons, the Stalker - they all have something very integral in common, something fhe lore has hinted countless times at but has yet to explicitly acknowledge. If you want to spoil yourself and look up what it is, google 'psychological shadow', but I'd advise against it.

I really enjoy seeing people enthusiastic about Warframe getting to experience it for the first time, because I know the reaction won't be far off what most of us experienced during our playtime Oh, with Excalibur Umbra btw, outside of his 150plat skin, you can toggle the scarf and any prime parts he has on his armor to appear on those other skins. Also, the Warframe being able to move against that sword is because they were in the Somatic link chamber where the Tenno's transference is way way stronger. I think as it stands, only Excalibur umbra is sentient, or at least that's my understanding. I didn't realise the conclusion of the Umbra quest though, and I only understood it while watching this time, so now I hate Ballas more! :3 The Orokin are a breakaway civization, and the Sentient were machines that gained sentience and rebelled hard against their makers.

is it a contractual requirement of streamers that they have a 2nd grade level reading skill? jesus christ