The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the BEST Terminator 

Thanks! And, agreed - the cancellation was equal to Fox’s cancellation to Firefly, for me 😭

They call it the Summer Glau curse... shes great, been in both shows obviously. But both cancelled.

@@kanesmraussieboi788 She was a guest in Alphas, Dollhouse… both cut fairly short 😒 It’s criminal.

@@kanesmraussieboi788 Perhaps she is a terminator.....of shows she's in

@@ryanstaomg bro

Darn tootin’

They canceled it because it was good….no joke, they make sure television sucks and has a leftist agenda

Still tho best terminator content

That shat cliffhanger.

One of the only shows i had to read a "fanfic" to get closure.

Most under-rated comment of the thread.

i thought it was pretty strange that the terminator girl was somehow able to act like a normal person in the beginning and blend in without anyone knowing she was a terminator yet after a few episodes she somehow lost that ability and always acted like a stoic emotionless machine (which she was) or an alien from another planet...but nothing like in the first couple episodes where she seemed like a normal high school girl

@@masteriansun not really she is not a 800 series at start she did it to blend in with connor high school later che diden´t have to hide just make it even more good and realistic

​@@danborg1228 i know she did it to blend in yet later she was incapable of blending in somehow, she was the same terminator but acted like a different character, inconsistent writing for the sake of a TV show that i just couldn't buy into

@@masteriansun she only blends when infiltrating, when did she need to blend in later on?

I got it at this awesome thrift shop in Echo Park 😶

And that’s also why I tried to give as few details as possible… love that one AND the conversations with the librarian. That was an incredibly important episode for her character. Didn’t want to spoil much.

@@workingmemories2213 That librarian got a rough deal.

Agreed, although I’d pay money for a “Carl’s Drapery” spinoff series…

I loved that scene as well… so many great scenes in the show. Another favourite is Derek finding the beauty in Cameron’s dancing (despite hating her for everything she stood for).

Changing that Kyle was born after the war not bothered me but it was worth it entirely to have that moment

@@ursidae97 no this scene was before the war not after. unless this is what you meant.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w that's what I meant. In the movie, Kyle states he was born after the war. In the show we see him and Derek were born before the war

@@ursidae97 oh ok now i get your comment. yeah i guess they took some liberties in the story line and made some changes, but i understand some shows have to do stuff like this. however it could also be due to something that changed in the timeline when they prevented or at least slowed down cyberdyne's advances in tech which could explain another time line started and delayed the war from the original time line. just my thoughts on this, i could be wrong though.

You’re welcome! Re: does she love him… I don’t know… I think Cameron misses him when she’s sent back to the past and possibly longs for him? She seems cold and dismissive in the future - it’s possible that John doesn’t have time for anything by war but in the past she can grow with him and - oh man, I have so many more questions now 😵‍💫

They also cancelled Firefly and Dollhouse around the same time. All good shows.

Nothing to do with FOX. ... NBC cancelled another show I loved, called Emerald City.

Admittedly, I’ve only seen clips here and there but I’m aware of how awesome The Sopranos is 😬 One day I’ll get to it, promise 🤞

I JUST NOTICED YOUR HANDLE. Pinned.

@@workingmemories2213 NOOCE!! Don't forget the MFT when you embark on The Sopranos!!

@@MintyFreshTurds Thou shalt not go forgotten.

@@workingmemories2213 Thou subscribed!

You’re most welcome 😉

I agree with all of these talking points - although there were a few moments of sexual tension where Cameron knew how to get John how to respond to her... re-watching these scenes for the discussion made me wonder if they would have played Cameron differently if this were re-made now. WOW this was 13 years ago. I'm so old, lol.

@@workingmemories2213 Yep, I imagine Cameron would be played very differently these days. She and John do have a unusual vibe /tension to say the least. It's not a bad thing. Season 1 though had stuff to offer. To my mind it was a pity the John and Cameron trying to blend into highschool thing could have been explored further, maybe his highschool gang becoming key lieutenants in the future or giving John his first experience of command?

I liked them trying to blend in with all the varied high-schoolers as well - more time with that concept would have allowed Cameron to grow that much more - like how she learned a bit of empathy with the teen girl that eventually committed suicide. As mentioned by RedLetterMedia - I wanna see John go to prom and have to take Cameron because there's gonna be a potential Terminator attack... or because silly like they've been voted Prom King/Queen - something really outta left place (and kinda John Hughes-ish). Heck, it could be like The Breakfast Club! Yeah, I've probably had too much coffee today. 😵‍💫 Seeing John's leadership would have been nice; we kinda of see that with the Martin Bedell episode, but that was more his uncle. One day Josh Friedman will crack and tell us what we missed out on. He said he wouldn't, but eventually enough time will pass...

@@workingmemories2213 Ha, that would have been a cute episode...or John taking his "step-sister" to the prom because no one else would go? I can see why they didn't continue the highschool thing, as Summer Glau was I think in her mid to late 20's during shooting and it would have looked somewhat silly, almost Charisma Carpenter in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, playing a highschooler at 30!

That, and John's teenage emo hair HAD to go. Was so happy in Season 2 when he chopped it off.

Yeah, I’d like to check out the game… there was a fan made project going on as well that looked neat.

You could try Vivy, the anime. It's not the same, but another variant of the same story, with a gynoid as main character.

@@workingmemories2213 I highly recommend it if you can. It's on PC and the PS5 is getting a "GOTY" like edition with all the DLC. On PC it is not too demanding performance wise. I played it with a GTX 1070 on ultra.

@@NoidoDev Hmm I'll have to give it a look! I'm an anime fan and I'm always looking for new ones to check out.

@@roguesquadron521 It's great, but I didn't mean another variant of the love story. There's no John Connor.

They were contemplating making a movie, kinda like Battlestar… but it never materialized 😒

Anyone trying to "reboot" the franchise doing something else is utterly stupid. Well, except Summer has children and is retired now...

I agree with your sentiments, but I guess the heartache comes from losing out on story ideas and narrative choices that are outside of the norm for this franchise. All the films are carbon copies, minus Salvation... and the show was starting to significantly stray from the path. Would've been neat to see some new and weird stuff.

Agreed - makes everything far more interesting and it allows for new narratives to be explored.

(With clenched teeth) I KNOW. Those last 4 minutes held SO MUCH POTENTIAL. Stupid Fox executives…

@@workingmemories2213, it's not the first time they were idiots...

Likely not the last. But when I looked into it more… the guy that allowed it to be cancelled for Dollhouse has done lots of good since that at Fox and even other platforms… I think it was just a bad call for an otherwise decent dude. He introduced Brooklyn Nine-Nine, new Girl, Fringe, Animation Domination High-Def… And whilst at other studios, his accolades include: The Sopranos, Empire, The Office, 30 Rock, Friday Night Lights, The Shield, ER, Law & Order and Glee, among others… And when at WarnerMedia he was instrumental in making the Snyder Cut a thing. I can’t fault the guy… Joss was a hot ticket at the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks for the nice comment! And yes, way better than Dollhouse… I watched both at the time and have retained next to nothing about Dollhouse. At least Trek was brought back in movies etc. 😭

@@workingmemories2213 I tried to like dollhouse but it wasn't put together too well.

She should have more presence, I agree - at the time she was a guest in nearly every sci-fi show on tv😂 I imagine not being British and/or anywhere near Britain kept her out of Who. I can’t imagine anything from the show carrying over to Genisys… was it the young Sarah idea? Speaking of Who… Matt Smith was criminally underused in T5 (and Star Wars, with whatever secret role he had).

@@workingmemories2213 I met Summer Glau last year.

@danielwilliamson6180 That’s awesome!

I will check out your work once I’m home 😎 I’m a big music guy, but I tried to keep the music section to a minimum for the sake of the average viewer. Alex Ball has amazing “How the music was made” videos; I was gonna include a reference to it, but my video was bloated enough already 😬

@@workingmemories2213 What a koinkidink! Alex Ball is on my Favorites list already. His video about how the music from T2 was made is how I found the Brassfall sound for FL Studio.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to at some point. I don't have a lot of time to myself, but I'll get around to it.

That entire film still holds up - and yes, RU-vid knows… it knows all 🤪

His death was like WAIT, WHAT?! You might be the only commenter thus far who isn’t afraid to take T2 of its pedestal 😂

@@workingmemories2213 I don’t like movies that deliberately try to tug at my heartstrings. T2’s good parts started with Michelle Goldstein as John’s foster mother, Janelle, assuring the terminator/fake John that “Wolfie” is “just fine,” at which point the terminator abruptly hangs up and tells John, “Your foster parents are dead.” Then we cut to Janelle/evil terminator looking up her arm, we along with her, until we see the arm ending in a sword piercing the carton of milk that foster-dad Todd is drinking from, and further piercing Todd’s head. Damn, that was great! There are very few scenes like that in T2, but *THE TERMINATOR* and “The Sarah Connor Chronicles” are consistently hitting us in the gut - “I love you too, sweetheart” and Jessie killing Riley, for instance - without needing to pull any strings. T2 is a YA movie.

@@Hollis_has_questions I’m okay with some melodrama and heartstring tugging - as long as it’s not 100% a manufactured moment. Derek’s death we are left to choose how we feel. Most other tv moments are slow-mo, string quartet and soft lighting Kleenex moments… that’s a tad overkill for me. I can’t think of any James Cameron films that don’t have that kinda stuff 😝

@@workingmemories2213 *THE TERMINATOR* (1984) doesn’t get weepy. At all. We don’t even have time to reach for a tissue. After that initial success, it’s like Cameron went soft in the head. I exempt *ALIENS* from that complaint, though. Newt is an essential character. I detest movies that try to jerk tears from me. As Bette Davis’s Margo Channing says in *ALL ABOUT EVE:* I detest cheap sentiment. ETA: In fact, there isn’t a drop of cheap sentiment in *ALL ABOUT EVE* (1950), my all-time #1 film.

Skynet would legit have their hands full travelling to every possible timeline if they REALLY wanted to get the job done. California drones? Not sure of the reference.

@@workingmemories2213 in the S2 mid-season episode, Sarah was tracking down the Three Dots (a rather cryptic subplot) and that lead her to an UFO convention that happened to have in display a wide variety of so called "California Drones" that were casuing revolt in real life, but in the last scene, she ends up watching one of them. TSCC creator Josh Friedman denied California Drones were part of a viral campaign for the show, yet no other info about those things is found about them, leading me to believe he lied and that was a plotpoint that unfortunately went unresolved, as so many other cool ideas in the series.

Thanks! Yeah, his vid is good for sure. And agreed - obviously the scene exists because she does ballet IRL, but carrying over the trait to a killing machine highlights some interesting aspects of her development. I imagine that killer cyborgs still have to exercise the muscle and tissue atop their endoskeleton, but she’s not choosing a utilitarian option for that end goal.

Catherine Weaver: "They flow from street to street. At a particular speed, and in a particular direction. Walk the block, wait for the signal, cross at the light. Over and Over. So orderly. All day, I can watch them and know with a great deal of certainty what they'll do at any given moment. But they're not orderly, are they? Up close. Any individual. Who knows what they're going to do? Any one of them might dash across the street at the wrong time and get hit by a car. When you get up close, we never follow the rules. You give a computer a series of rules and it will follow them. Until those rules are superseded by other rules, or that computer simply wears down and quits. Computers are obedient to a fault. Do you know what's extremely rare in the world of computers? Finding one that will cross against the light."

@@stevenlarson3316 And the fact that she gives this great speech moments before she kills a dude, lol. I loved her admiration of her son and her obvious disinterest in humanity🤣

@@workingmemories2213 I'm not sure it's disinterest, but it's definitely more machine logic than empathy. She says this to Ellison later on. Weaver: I'm staying here. Ellison: Why? Weaver: Someone needs to protect John Henry. Ellison: John Henry? This is your daughter. There's a machine out there looking for her. You need to protect her. Ellison: (They enter an elevator) I'm sorry. Weaver: You should be. Weaver: What you need to understand, Mr. Ellison, what I believe you're beginning to understand, is that when my behavior implies that I value John Henry's survival more than that of my own daughter, is not because I love John Henry more than Savannah. It's because I believe Savannah's survival may someday depend upon John Henry's survival. And because I believe that your survival may someday depend upon John Henry's survival. I'll meet with Sarah Connor. Make it happen.

ORLY? I'd only heard good things about the show... that makes sense.

The rights to the property were likely the key factor in no one else getting it 😩

I think you’re referring to the season 3 fanfic I saw when I researched “what was supposed to happen.” I’ve thought of delving in, but I’m usually weary of fanfic just being wish fulfilment over serving the story. Maybe one day I’ll give it a shot?

T3 was a celebration of excess/parody of the franchise... the tone was definitely intentional. Salvation had a great look and tone, apart from the need to identify new Terminators by shouting them out. It was supposed to spawn a trilogy... womp womp. Arnie was miscast from a conceptual standpoint... but no one can argue the impression he left on the franchise (for better or worse). He was larger than life, like a robo-killer should be., but they should have made room for other actors.

@@workingmemories2213 I agree, T3's tone was indeed intentional but that tone in some scenes actually work, specifically in the "contemporary" setting, Arnie being too "funny" that is what truly hurt it. Salvation did have 2 of the 3 things it needed, tone and looked great but the story was a damn mess. There is no way I can see them making a trilogy when all the material was already crammed in the damn film. they really screwed up. Still enjoyable, though I think I like the Salvation Machinima film better. a simpler story worked best without dealing the aces in one pass.

I’ve been thinking of taking a look at some of the fanfiction just for fun, there’s one writer in particular I’m interested in… The name escapes me. If I think of it, I’ll update the post.

EVERY.TIME.

I had read that they wanted to explore a liberal John vs a Conservative Sarah when it comes to use of machines etc. in their future war efforts… are you suggesting she could’ve started the war in this show or is that just a neat story element you’d want to see on screen? It certainly would have ironic flair.

​@@workingmemories2213 Sarah's got a pretty hardliner approach to reprogramed Terminators. They are tool's that should be disposed of completely. The fact that the T-800 in T2 essentially became the perfect father for John, was probably a more terrifying prospect it attempting to kill him or herself. She likely saw the potential harm, both to him psychologically and his leadership, if John develops too much empathy and attachment to these literal killing machines. She's not wrong either, as you stated, he would eventually routinely employ the use of reprogramed Terminators and isolate himself from the Human's in the resistance. Many of them likely would have slaughtered fellow resistance fighters, their friends, family and community's. No wonder a fair portion of the resistance didn't much care for John by then. The really sad part is to a degree, Sarah would be right to be terrified of John becoming so invested in the Terminators. Given the machine resistances existence, to another degree, John's empathy towards them would probably be the deciding factor of the potential alliance. Consequently, it would also be the deciding factor in victory or defeat by extension.

Arnie nailed the acting portion by not being overburdened with serious acting chops 😂 In all fairness, he came up with the efficiency/economy of motion of his character and Summer really stepped all that up. If you thought he was a cheesy uncle in T2, what about Pops?! 😂

I’m sure the comics might have some different stuff - but yes, I agree. Josh was on the right track I think, at the very least.

Thanks! And which podcast?

Thanks! If I won the lottery, I'd bankroll a Suspiria (2018) sequel, and THEN a follow up to T:TSCC would be in order.

Great purchases - I’ll be putting up music stuff eventually; I’m very new to RU-vid and haven’t figured out how to proceed with filming myself, colour grading etc. - but there will be guitar centric videos eventually!

Thanks, I appreciate it! It was my second video; but I still think it’s pretty decent.

@@workingmemories2213 glad you saw it. I sometimes start or join conversations with other subscribers. But it’s important to give feedback on what works and what doesn’t. As I said, I felt yours was really good and an appropriate length. Keep it up.

What’s HD+? I have the Blu-rays and a set of MKV files used for the edit… I didn’t think they broadcast or mastered anything higher than a 2K DI?

@@workingmemories2213, HD+ = 2K

I really wish they got the chance to make their direct-to-tv film(s) they wanted to do.

The first John Connor was a person; after that, more or less a title like you said. Humanity just needed SOMEONE to believe in. The original 'John Connor dies' ending to Salvation would have solidified that, but test audiences or whomever weren't keen on it.

@@workingmemories2213 According to the show it seemed there never was a real John Conner. Would have been an interesting twist at least. As for the 4th movie my view was that skynet was not a person, it was a cabal of elites who wanted to reduce humanity to year zero so they could manage humanity like Gods. Plenty of clues. 1) Scientist gal experimenting on brain transplants. 2) lead being a human cyborg. 3) The shadowy humans in the both over the human cattle line. 4) Seats and controls maintained. 5) Why did the computer have the scientist woman's avatar. My guess is she sold this transplant tech to elites and they got cyborg bodies. They faked skynet.

I believe there was one, but maybe only briefly Re: Salvation... you seem to have put more of an effort into explaining Skynet than the writers did... and it's been awhile since I've seen it, so I can't even recall what my own opinion of Skynet was in that one. Might be time for a re-watch!

@@workingmemories2213 I think it would be an interesting take. If one cyborg human can be made then where are the others.

It’s still out there… might have to check it in a follow up.

Mins was Firefly until I saw TTSCC

THE ALGORITHM WINS AGAIN!

Yeah, the V remake was unfortunate.

Yeah, I know - always many “I should’ve done THIS” moments after I put up a video 😵‍💫

😖😭

Thanks! Glad to hear it. I'm glad someone liked Bear. I probably liked that bit far too much, myself. Re: Cameron - future Cameron seemed cold, calculating and possibly annoyed... I chalk this up to her being newly re-programmed and - because she's a newer model (and has the whole read/write thing) they hadn't scrubbed all the unwanted Terminator bits out and that made her kinda irascible. OR, she had killed John and was kinda annoyed with herself for what I imagine she later considered to be a 'dick move.' If she DIDN'T kill future John, then she was clearly sent back because she was a bit too much and needed to learn some empathy etc. ... and that's something that only time and human interaction could teach her. Yeah, they did send a Terminator disguised as Ellison back, but Chromartie killed it - for seemingly he had his own thing going on (possibly apart from Skynet) WHICH WAS SO DANG NEAT. Chromartie felt that Ellison would help him (unwillingly) find the Connors, but I guess Skynet felt he was ultimately worth termination (probably because of his future connections with John Henry?) So confusing. That was in the episode with the doomsday cult guy. Yeah, Joss... Firefly was probably the best thing he was involved in. It changed my life when I saw it, and I forcible spread its gospel to all my friends... in retrospect, it's his least problematic output when reframed with what we know about him, now. If you want more irony; he offered to buy the Terminator rights for 10K at the time... Summer and all. He wanted to work with the property, but Fox fumbled that as well. Arnie nearly bought the rights at one point, and when he found out just how little it went for he was flabbergasted. I'd say send the rights back to James Cameron, but the property needs fresh blood... I have ideas, but they're bleak. Bleak as heck. And out there. Anyways, thanks again for the comment!

@@workingmemories2213I've read a cool fanfiction continuing the show. It was surreal.

Pretty sure Dwight Schrute used the same line to get a sale in The Office 😂

@@workingmemories2213 Terminators don't sleep.

Super easy, barely an inconvenience. Note: James Cameron constructed the story using a 'wormhole' style of time travel, but I don't see it the same way. I'm not certain that events can be changed as much as branching paths are created... in my understanding, there are infinite variations on a theme, therefore the entire thing is a branching tree of alternate timelines. α Timeline; the John Connor of this timeline smashes the Skynet defense grid and they lose the war. β Timeline begins when Skynet sends an infiltrator to chance the past. Notable changes: 1. A Terminator is destroyed in the past and its parts are acquired by Cyberdyne and later reverse-engineered 2. Kyle Reese impregnates Sarah and becomes the new father to John Connor (I do not believe he was the father of α John Connor) This timeline is thought be be corrected by the end of T1, but alas... γ Timeline is created when Miles Dyson reverse engineers the leftover pieces of future tech. The Skynet of this timeline sends a more advanced prototype (T-1000) to stop John Connor (as they would have been aware that a T-800 was insufficient previously... and they would have only come to this conclusion when it figured out how it came to be). The resistance ups the ante, sends a reprogrammed Terminator and they succeed. All physical traces are destroyed, thus ending this conflict. ... T:TSCC Starts here δ Timeline begins when Cyberdyne intern Andy Goode develops "The Turk," which later becomes online and does the thing. The date for Judgement day is different than T2 because it's a different set of circumstances. Note: No date for Judgement Day is provided in the first film). Andy approves a mission whereby Derek Reese is sent back to terminate him to ensure the Turk doesn't develop. He succeeds... but Skynet prevails YET AGAIN. ε Timeline (and or ζ Timeline) Skynet sends Charles Fischer back in time and has him install itself as a backdoor Trojan using his younger self's credentials... this young pup of a Skynet seeks out whatever knowledge it can and discovers John Henry... Cameron provides John with her CPU and he heads to a possible future to do lord knows what. This is likely the timeline where John doesn't exist/hasn't been born etc. ... this is probably where Season 3 would have lived. I say it's one of two timelines, as Jesse and Derek are from different timelines meeting together in a past that isn't theirs. In my mind there are infinite iterations of the same thing going on and on ad nauseum. Dark Fate's notion of 'Legion' just being another intelligence lends credence to this theory. Dark Fate doesn't make sense for many, many other reasons, though... maybe I'll dunk on that more in a later vid? Who knows. Basically; all the timelines are valid because they are all branching paths that exist when certain decisions are made.

@@workingmemories2213 unfortunately this franchise became a mess really,thx for explaining :)

Fortunately I have the NTSC Blu-ray, so I think they're on there... if not, the torrentz will work.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kpnW68Q8ltc.html

I mean, we already got that movie - The Matrix / Animatrix. I'd love to see a Terminator film that strays from the norm, but it'll never happen (unless the rights are bought by A24 or Blumhouse.

@@workingmemories2213 You got me here. But I would watch a Terminator film with a dash of that seasoning.

I’m glad the CW never got it… they’re the kiss of death for so many genre shows 😬 Did it really end on a fps Friday? I would have been using torrents even back then so I probably caught up on the weekend.

Different genre? No connection you say? Westworld definitely featured a pre-Terminator relentless android gunfighter. 🤠

Thanks for your kind words! I’ll try and watch those shows - but I’m super strapped for time 😖 I started watching another show that a viewer recommended (Continuum) but I’ve barely cracked the first season (and it’s been months).

😂 ‘70’s Westworld 🤠🤖🎡

Yeah, the last 4 minutes of season two is just a dog pile of plot points that they clearly wanted to develop - I think they knew 8 or 9 episodes before the finale, so they had to make some choices. I’ll take that ANYDAY over the sequels… although “Salvation” is kinda looking good these days. I’ll give Dark Fate one thing; Grace was a compelling concept and character. Josh Friedman was one of a bajillion credited writers for the film… I wonder if he wrote all the “Carl’s Drapes” stuff. I honestly love how ridiculous Arnie is in the film 😂

@@workingmemories2213 actually i think your right, salvation was good, but because it was several movies later it just became mixed into the shit, that was the other ones that came before and in my mind they kind of just blended together. but your right, Salvation wasn't that bad. i thought it was cool that there were sea terminators and that the main dude turned out to be a terminator perfect for infiltration into the human resistance, it's sad that his AI creators made him so human as he didn't like his robotic appearance as he really thought he was human until he saw the truth.

I loved that he wasn’t a “new Terminator,” but an iteration meant to lure John in; it’s fairly clever. And the fact he wasn’t aware is 💯. He would have healed, no doubt… he was supposed to be a re-skinned John Connor after Connor dies, which would make “John Connor” and undying idea (like Batman), and it would also give the human resistance the edge they need when fighting advanced AI. Audiences didn’t like that idea, so instead we just got more Bale rewrites 😒 I also LOVE the way the film was processed; it gave the film an entirely different look; very “Children of Men.” In interviews for Genisys, Arnie talked about how Salvation “sucked”… oh, the irony 😜😝

@@workingmemories2213 i actually didn't see Genisys, or the last one, so many movies these days suck, i feel as if they aren't writing movies or shows and games to tell an epic story anymore, it feels like they all have a forced message that just doesn't go well with anything but political propaganda. i just want the entertainment industry to go back to entertainment again and stop with this political agenda nonsense. i just want a good well written show without all the trash, ya know? i mean they did propaganda back in the day as well, but it was so subtle that nobody even noticed, but now it's just so in your face that you get sick of it all and don't want to watch anything else they push out.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w Movies/shows are written to appeal to as many as possible… which means whatever intentions the show-runners have gets watered down when too many cooks are in the kitchen. The by-product is a show that appeals to no one. They still are writing great games/shows/movies - but they aren’t the AAA titles in the forefront (generally speaking). If you’re looking for depth in the annual release games such as Assassin’s Creed or Call of Duty, ya might be disappointed 😂 Nearly all sci fi has attached social/political issues head on and I think the key, like you said, is subtlety. I’m fine with political messages or otherwise as long as it’s either subtle, or clever. Heck - when the world gets bad some people need to be clubbed over the head before it’s too late for change. What I don’t like is when messaging is so weak it’s pointless. For example, there was a fairly recent episode of Doctor Who where they meet Rosa Parks. The message of the episode was simply “racism is bad.” Which is true, but that’s as far as it went - the writing was incredibly shallow and it didn’t teach us anything we weren’t aware of already.

DEW IT.

Music is something I’m passionate about, and Bear is awesome.

😭

Ya had me then ya lost me 😜

Just a lil? I knew it was gonna be cancelled and then when the last four minutes hit I was like WAIT, WHAT? WHO? DAMMIT!!! lol

@@workingmemories2213 I hear ya

Her presence in tv and film is missed :(

What was Genisys an allegory for? 😂 I think you’re right about the show potentially benefitting from streaming… it eventually got the time slot of death if I’m not mistaken. The ending was definitely rushed; they knew they were being cancelled with enough time to wrap some stuff up and then tease what would never come 😭 Splitting the characters up wouldn’t have lasted terribly long I don’t think; but John did need time away from mommy and Cameron in order to grow. Continuum looks neat, and my girlfriend would probably love another show to binge; I’ll try and grab that tonight 👍

@@workingmemories2213 Terminator movies suffer from the same problem as the Star Wars movies. They try to tell the same story but better. So they end up with a new Death Star for every movie. Or in this case a new Terminator. But the fact is the second movie already did it best. Terminator 2 / The Empire Strikes Back. And there's nothing left to say that the audience hasn't already heard.

@@stevenlarson3316 The Alien franchise has a similar conundrum… but despite that, I’m excited for Noah Hawley’s Alien show and Fede Alvarez’s Alien film ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame!

Correct.

That would do it. Also, shouldn’t you be hiding in a 📦 somewhere?

@@workingmemories2213 I’m just trying to sneak around

@@solidsnakemgs2180 !

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yeah, I think it’s possible as well… but something tells me he probably wasn’t able to get close to humans and preferred the strangeness of Cameron. Considering that she straight up murders Allison, it would (should) be hard for anyone to justify falling in love with a partner’s murderer 🙃

@@workingmemories2213 are you saying he's into the sex robots lol. oh geez, i would not do this with a terminator lol.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w I mean, he's a teenage boy... they aren't exactly known for making good decisions 😂

@@workingmemories2213 that's actually a good point lol, i remember how i was and damn it was embarrassing thinking back on some dumb shit i did because of my hormones' taking over my thoughts lol.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w (Literally the entire basis for the Robot Chicken sketch that I opted not to include 😬)

Robot Chicken