The Siege Of Darkenvault - 40K Theories 

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They claim headsmen not executioners.

Same difference dude, a Heads man is a Executioner

"Are we Wolves a Joke to you?" 🐺

Hears the wolves rage "Reeeeeee reeeeeeee" that ain't right

We don't take revenge. We settle grudges and collect on unpaid debts.

Dorn produced some pretty sketchy sons.

@@MrTurbowhitey "My normal calm was . . . COMPROMISED"

If those four were to fall onto the Marines Malevolent...they might ascend to daemonhood of Khorne

*World eaters want to know your location*

Pretty much the same as badab war

Happy blood god noises

Blood for the blood god indeed

Ork snipers amirite?

either his sons are insane or they get wrecked by greenskins, there is no middle ground

Hard to defend against an enemy who can change the rules of war on the fly.

man, i see you all the time

Its pretty much confirmed it was the Slaugth that attacked them Thats why the Executioners were caught of guard they had never fought them before

All we know is they were a relatively small empire with extremely sturdy defenses and potent energy weapons.

"PURGING WITH MY KIN"!!!!- Black Templars.

Seems about right.

While I can see the reasoning behind it, I don't believe this would be the case. Especially with the key descriptor of "worm ridden".

@@40KTheories If they didnť get fresh coats for long enough to get them rotting and wormy they could be desperate enough to try to sneak upon a fortress monastery.

Yup it's as simple as the World eaters are not and never have been a chapter. A legion yes but not a chapter.

The word "loyalist" comes to mind as well

*World Eaters promptly get murder-f***ed by Executioners* Remember, these were the guys who wiped out 1 for 1 a company of The Space Sharks and the blood God cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it does.

Phillip Gouthier they seem like worshipers of Khorne honestly.

@@The_Murder_Party They seem likes guys that were founded in the tradition of being the survivors of the most brutal fighting during the Siege of Terra.

They're was retconned lore back in 2nd-3rd edition where during the Great Crusade a race of benevolent grey alien xenos was wiped out of course the Emperor did not approve and chastised the individual's responsible as he had supposedly worked with them in the past now we'll never know 😒

@@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Kill the alien, the heretic, the mutant.

@@discomfort5760 Even the ones personally spared by the Emperor Himself?

@@marclytle644 Especially those ones. Clearly he wanted to save some so that later generations would not get lazy.

There seems to be a few things a chapter can do to be called brutal: 1) eat people (The Sanguine Brotherhood is mostly guilty of this one) 2) kill other loyal Astartes (Carcharadons, Minotaurs) 3) base their tactics largely around rapid deployment and close quarters combat (Space Wolves, Black Templars, Blood Angels, etc). 4) indiscriminately murder Imperial citizens (Marines Malevolent)

*khorn tunes in and open his ratling skull popcorn bag*

Covah Redro Is that doubt, Imperial citizen?

Sly Marbo is the God-Emperor

To ascend to sainthood Sly would have to die first. That's hard to imagine. But maybe one lucky hive fleet will overwhelm him in sheer numbers one day when he got old and slow. Then he will rise as mankind's celestial Defender and the imperial choirs will sing his hymn that goes like this: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

Sly is better. He's Rambo crossed with Arnold's characters from Commando and Predator.

Sly Marbo is a direct descendant of Chuck Norris

He was a bit of an absent father and his children are acting out

Not necessarily agreeing with your assessment. Some people are composed and unemotional because they have learned to intellectually control their own emotions and instabilities. Think of Vulcans ending their internal strife with pure logic, but some of them becoming Romulans and stabbety stabbing everyone. The Wolves, or even the Scars, they are violent, but very stable in what they are. They are honestly who they are. Dorn, or El Johnson are more complex, even more complex emotionally than Guilliman. Guilliman is also quite honestly himself, an overachiever and does what he likes to do. Dorn is conflicted person in many ways. And successor chapters who lose those things that keeps the darker moods away, are consumed by them. That brutality is already in the Fists, and in Dorn, but overshadowed, controlled by things like duty, honor, nobility. Lose on of those traits, or others, and its opposite will reign free. Wolves have no loyalty. They WANT to follow the Allfather. They dont need it. Ultramarines dont have nobility, they want to do the right thing. Dorns chapters have those things, mostly. They have all the things that keep them from doing bad things. Except some lose something. Wolves have no disloyalty in them. Dorn chapters do. They also have anger, and many other things that need to be controlled. Russ angers easily, and forgets even more easily. Same with the khan. Dorn never forgives, his anger is never forgotten. That is why those chapters are angry. Its already in them. It is just let to consume them.

flying sausages?

Yingyanglord1 well when I was growing up we made fun of the flying saucers and called them sausages instead.

Or Arch Warhammer. Luetin would probably be a better fit tho as he is concise.

Not me guv! I’ve got witnesses to say I was elsewhere.

@@AlPHArius-fs9gu are these witnesses also Alpharius? Ya 'ave a loicense for them witnesses?

Oi mate you got a loicense for that butter knife in ya profile picture?

@@thenutella8846 Not all of them, one of them is Omegon.

@@hayyu9202 Oi mate. Ya 'ave a loicence for questioning me loicence collection?

Well the Cabal wasn't a particular race, more of a coalition consisting of individuals from a number of races. Plus they were stated by Eldrad Ulthraan to no longer exist as of M32 within the novel 'The Beheading'.

@@40KTheories Can you make a video about this topic in the future?

WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOM

It is as though, A THOUSANDS MOUTHS CRY OUT IN PAIN!

Richard Valdes - Rasmussen Ohh yes. Sometimes they scream.

I CAN FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME, IT IS A GOOD PAIN!

The Carcharadons are calm - their brutality is cold and precise, not rage-filled, say like the Flesh Tearers.

As stated above we carcharadons prefer to not screech and scream in battle. We are silent and calculated while repressing our desire to become barbarians. And still we strike cold blooded.

It is from the game 'Dawn of War 2' It sounds like one of the imperium tunes.

Juan Paolo Datu Well, chain bayonets were a thing in the RPG, iirc. And chain glaves are still used among the traitor legions, especially the Night Lords.

Also chain guns, and just chains with spiked weights on the end

The irony is Khorne adores spacemarines even those who outright oppose him, Because Khorne does not care from whence the blood flows, It is known the Emperor pulled some sort of trick or made a form of deal with the dark gods to gain knowlage for his super human projects, So its very possible Khorne could of been the most eager to share some of this info knowing full well that super strong super violent warriors would happen, While Khorne is not one for tricks and being sneaky it is not that hard to imagine some chapters take to it more then others such as those founded from Great Crusade and Horus Heresy veterans that would have more hatred then other chapters, These would not be the first Angry boys of Dorn.

Some loyalist astartes adorn their armour with skulls and bones. A good amount have eaten human flesh, mostly the brains. Wearing some leather hardly seems heretical for an astartes.

No different than veterans of a tyrannid war wearing trophies on their pauldrons.

Khorne: Oh you want to go on a Crusade across the whole galaxy, to 'liberate' mankind ? Oh Hell Yeah, here you go, and take this and this with you too. No payment necessary, just don't show your enemies any mercy and spilling as much blood as you can is payment enough for me.

Rat Face 😂😂😂 just a little leather lmao

"Molecular acid" is a tautology. All acids are made from molecular compounds or groups of various active molecules, so the phrase was the sign of a writer too busy or too lazy to give it a name.

Someone made a geneseed mixup during founding... whoopsie

Well, astronauts wear diapers under the suit, spacemarines have to wear their armor for days, i would find it pretty unbelievable if someone claimed they DONT wear diapers...

Depends on whom they attempt first contact. Most Astartes chapters would shoot on sight, same with the Inquisition and the ecclesiarchy. Rogue Traders would only play along if it benefitted them. If they contacted the rare individual with common sense, (and they do exist) their could be a possibility for peaceful contact. As long as the Xenos didn't plan on sticking around.

@@MrTurbowhitey or a rarer individual with absolutely no sense what so ever, maybe a really, really curious and borderline heretical Tech Priest with a high IQ and no "street smarts"

@@Commodore22345 I'm not really talking about a stereotypical "First Contact" scenario, like something out of Close Encounters. I'm talking about a scenario where two forces join up to deal with a greater threat. Example, a guard regiment with a commissar who knows how to lead, (Gaunt, Cain, etc) running into said race as they where being mulched by whatever. (Nids, Orks, Chaos). They realize through mutual situational awareness, that the only chance they HAVE, is to combine their forces and turn them on the greater threat. You can have some filler fluff inserted to explain who they are, and why they're HERE, but ultimately, at the end of the day, they walk away from the battlefield backwards, both expecting the other to shoot. All pertinent information about this "First Contact" would end up being buried in some Inquisition locker somewhere, and "Forgotten".

​@@MrTurbowhitey "My enemy’s enemy is a problem for later: In the meantime, they might be useful" Inquisitor Quixos

@@MrTurbowhitey It happens. It also happens with known Xenos on bad terms. Necrons helping out Blood Angels against 'nids, for example. Or Trazyn at Cadia. The only such alliance not likely to get the human executed (unless the human is Astartes, a Rogue Trader or really high up) is with Asuryani, since there is a history of cooperation there, especially in the Age Indomitus. Cooperation with Tau is almost certain to get you executed.

The Inquisition want to know your location.

@@lukasperuzovic1429 I want to serve the Emperor's will.

That we know of in the lore*

Executioners! More than meets the eye.

While they fought alongside the Astral Claws during the Badab War, the Executioners were offered the Emperor's forgiveness per the undertaking of a penitent crusade, so are still loyalists. (at least officially ;) )

If I remember correctly from the ciaphas Cain novels, there's regimental bands and musicians active in the higher circles. The ciaphas cain novel made it come off as a 50's gangster movie scenario, so I'm guessing the music fits that period aswell. It mentions songs called "The night before you left" and "The love we share", which do sound like they could be out of a 50's club. Flutes, trumpets, drums, and snare instruments are a thing in 40K, but the amount of musicians seems low and seems to be a thing only the rich and noble can really afford.

@@ratface7329 Cool thing. I always thought it was like religious hymns and bible (emperor) rock

I can see Imperial Rap being a thing

Lord Askr I don’t know but would imagine it is something like is being played as the background in this video. Does anyone know what that is? I would love to find out.

@@sadservitor5362 Sorry for the late reply. Religious hymns and stuff like choirs are definitely a thing. I'm sure shanties or such will be a thing too, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there's stuff like rock or mad Max guitar guy style orks either

Sounds like it is a mix of 2 tracks....since i hear 2 different drumbeats

Rebus Mortis Felix Mortis from the Chaos Gate soundtrack

Darude sand strom

"worm-ridden charnel feasters" ... zombie greys

Everyone hates the Mantis Warriors.

Didn’t the Lamenters get it even worse?

Mantis Warriors were ringleaders, Executioners are just stupid followers and useful tools?

Having a Salamander Captain take your side at the trial counts for something.