Episode 6.2 "Join the Club" Starring James Gandolfini Directed by David Nutter Written by David Chase Created by David Chase Release Date: March 19th, 2006 Episode Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join_th...
@@BoJack32 Tonys in a limbo land between his life and his death, and he is faced with both options throughout this episode, and in the next episode his 'guardian angel' and daughter Meadow saves him
I swear sopranos is the most massive show ever. So much character development, different "dreams", different arcs and storylines for multiple characters. If you are going to watch this show, clear your schedule
That's exactly what I tell people when they try saying breaking bad was better..while I do like bb, the only people who actually had character development were Walt and Jesse...every body else in that show stayed the exact same from ep 1 till the end...sopranos you can probably write a book about each character lmao
The best compliment I’ve ever heard about the Sopranos is that it is responsible for starting the second golden age of television. It was so good that the entire television industry stepped its game up.
James Gandolfini himself was from New Jersey - I imagine he's simply using his regular voice for these coma sequences. So, it would still be a Jersey accent, just not nearly as pronounced as Tony Soprano's.
@@DSPsWifesBf Yeah for sure, I think some of theese type of shows, this, LOST and others, have this nostalgia factor of everyone watching at the same time together which doesn't happen as much anymore. But Games of Throne similar quality. A lot of streaming content for sure...recommend Severence on Apple TV for great cinematography and writing. For All Mankind on Apple as well is pretty solid. (at least first two seasons).
Notice that Costa Mesa is right near Finn’s hometown of Mission Viejo. I forgot whether he was supposed to be visiting Meadow out there too in the dream. A few episodes back he dreams about having dinner with Finn’s parents and his teeth start falling out. You rarely hear him mention his daughter’s relationship while awake, but his subconscious revels a certain insecurity about the situation. I wonder if a connection can be made between Finnerty and the person Tony wishes he could be in the presence of those like Finn’s parents. Perhaps another slight metaphor in this scene.
‘Join the club’ really got me actually. I recently just finished the sopranos for the first time ever & this episode struck me like no other, mostly due to personal reasons. I had my father die in an accident this past year and it was the worst few nights of my life. He was fighting in hospital for a straight 3 nights but his wounds were too grievous. The acting from James, Edie, Jamie & Robert was so incredible.. so much so it gave me PTSD. Aside from that anecdote.. The more supernatural elements & dream sequences of the sopranos are by far some of my favourite moments. It’s the moments that weave on the brink of life and death that make you think… “who am I…. and where am i going?”
Gunshot wounds? Or natural causes? Regardless it doesn’t matter. I’m sure It taught you to appreciate life! Be careful eat healthy take care of yourself and family. That’s what your dad would’ve wanted. Turn negative into positive!
"so much so it gave me PTSD." I feel you, bro. My Dad died from cancer a couple of months ago, and I was with him the moment he did. Because of that, scenes like Johnny Sac's moment of death really freak me out and are just too much to handle right now. Well, hopefully just right now and not forever; I really hope this hang-up eventually goes away. But points to The Sopranos for realism, I guess.
@@CyckOneTwists like those can be interesting if executed right, but man it would’ve been so bad imo. Undermines every character arc and personal scene we’ve watched to this point
blackened grouper and stomach pain, can't help but think of the connection with the funhouse dreams for some reason the quiet realism and dark subtext of the coma dreams just feels so comforting to me, can't explain it
@@mikeg2491it is Gloria’s voice. Also, interestingly, the song Carmela plays in the little stereo while Tony is in the coma is “American Girl” by Tom Petty. The song is rumored to be about a young woman who commits suicide.
Wait. Oh. Oh FUCK. Costa Mesa comatose I love that this detail isn't just a neat anagram for fans to find, fucking everything in this scene is Tony's brain starting to wake up. It's bouncing back and forward between subtext, metaphor, and just text because these dreams are reflecting his brain self-actualising and realising its true identity. Lost wallet -> the brain realising it has an identity, but it's not Kevin Finnerty. Lost luggage means lots of things but the main thing here is occupation. Because that's not his real job, throw that work uniform away. When he's hoping "the other guy" will show up, he doesn't seem to think there's been a mistake, it's like he's already accepted that those things don't belong to him. When Tony just asks what Kevin's name means, the process of self-actualisation is rapidly accelerating. Dialogue ducks and weaves between this fantasy world and brain functions. "Who am I? Where am I going?" Now he's asking these questions out loud and not just giving these deja-vu-filled glances, he's about to wake up. I also love the little touch where he looks lost without his briefcase, and when he joins the other group he reached down for it again, even though it's gone. Great touch. There's lots of other more obvious things, but it's astounding how these dream sequences have their own logic that makes complete sense. I think this is the only piece of fiction I've seen that really captures how dreams are where our brains seem to basically process things and what we see is a side-effect of the process. The way the show depicts that through low-key surrealism where the meaning of it all is juuuust out of reach...is haunting.
This episode had such a strong effect on me. I was 20 now Im 36 and feel like Tony "who am I? Where am I going?" I felt like this since I was 12 years old when I saw a documentary about the world and universe how everything eventually will die. Endless black forever. It just made everything so meaningless in my mind even as I kid. I still feel the same no matter what we do eventually we die like everything else.
You could say things are meaningless. You could also say that the fact you will die and rejoin the infinite nothingness is the only thing that could give existence meaning. Every moment is infused with substance and value simply because it's happening. Would life become more meaningful if it never had an end? Doubtful. The significance of each moment would be diluted and the choices would have no stakes.
If you're unable to find or create meaning here and now, you never will. I guess for someone like you, you should be content that you won't have to spend too long in a meaningless existence.
If you ever want to know what traveling for work feels like this is it. Hotel bars, BS small talk about sales numbers, and married people making out after a few too many. I’ve been hungover many places. But having a fully packed corporate conference scheduled day was by far the worst
is the bald guy who invites him to the table Artie? His only friend, insisting that Tony is someone worth being social with, because of his implicit value and NOT his material value or from what can be gained from him (in contrast to all those people who say they're his friends but just want money, or protection)
the superficial feel of every aspect of this tony’s life is interesting and it feels like this is possibly a deep fantasy of his. to be his definition of a shmuck, an average joe who is still exceptional in some ways (he gets the woman’s heart despite him being married, he’s an upstanding guy, he went from patio salesman to “optics engineer” or whatever). And still, maybe it isn’t a fantasy as much as it is a self-reassurance for Tony. Assurance that the life of the painfully normal (opposite from the way he sees his course of life, despite him actually following tradition and holding great value in it) will end with lack of fulfillment and fear that not enough pleasure has been had. We see this reasoning (again, since this is all in Tony’s mind) with Tony falling down the stairs and getting Alzheimer’s as a results. On top of this, he’s Kevin Finnerty (essentially). In a world where your documentation is the only proof or marker of one’s existence, he might as well be Kevin Finnerty. And Kevin’s identity shows most likely another fear of Tony’s when thinking about a ‘normal’ course of life, that he is a man in a mold, not unique, interchangeable
@@ConstantineAndreas It is because he wants to live forever. "Infinity." He is in purgatory state in here and tries to decide if he should stay (die) or not.
I need to re-watch this series, because either I forgot what this dream sequence was supposed to represent, or I didn't properly understand in the first place. Was it suppose to be Tony dreaming of an alternate reality, where he was a honest guy with a straight job? If it is, it's a lovely diversion to the usual stuff in this show. Either way, I would have loved a whole new show based around Kevin Finnerty. Same clever writing but different characters.
The one and only bad episode in the series is In Camelot. That’s only because of the painfully awkward Happy Birthday song scene with the hot granny. lol
ok watch out, a little theory of mine: This is purgatory (common opinion). I wondered what makes it so "hell" like, i expected some sort of physical torture or smth cause that is how i, a person whose religious knowledge is based only on school lectures, expected purgatory to be. But this type of hell works different for Tone and really similar to his life: 1. Tony is trying to catch the bus (melfi metaphore) in form of a plain, that he can never catch. But he doesnt really know this, until later. 2. Tony is trying to build relationships (like in rl) but gets fucked over or fails: perfect example is the bar scene (the unfunny joke from the other guest and the barman instantly leaving when tony tries to interact on him on an emotional level to build a relationship). 3. Tony losing himself and his personality in form of alzheimer disease (in rl, he becomes numb) Conclusion: Tony´s purgatory is based on failure with humans and emotions, just like his real life. This is the worst for him and the thing he (imo) mostly fears. Being alone, no family, no friends (like he ever had any to begin with) and no knowledge about himself. I think this explains the coma-dream really good, correct me if i am wrong :)
The illusion of shrinking my entire bottom half of my body was meant to make me think the only place i could get it fixed was in prison... My brothers chinese talk about that subject is why i blamed him... It remains shrunken Sent with a Spark Global Via My LG Premier Pro Titan
